Honestly, if Sony keeps making more great stuff like ITSV I'm not too bothered about Spider-Man not being in the MCU

Honestly, if Sony keeps making more great stuff like ITSV I'm not too bothered about Spider-Man not being in the MCU.

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They won't. Sony will be more hands on with the live action movies, and we'll get shit like ASM and Venom. It will be shit.

Didn't they fire the main animator and writers of Spiderverse?

We went thru this with Fox, that's not the problem, the issue is that they are also capable of doing unbearable shit, so there's always a 50/50 chance they will fuck it up

Remember they also made trash like SM3, ASM and Venom

The only reason Spiderverse was good was because the producers let the writers and director do their jobs.

>Sony
You mean Phil Lord, who isn't coming back for the sequel, also
This

Spin-off and sequel are both already in production, so I guess we'll see.

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Spin-off? What would that even be about?

You got Spider-Verse while Spider-Man was part of the MCU though. They don't interfere with one another one bit. Considered that?

Did Sony autocorrect to Don't? That's ominous.

>meddled with Spider-Man 3, forced in Venom, and made the film suck
>crapped out the Amazing films
>had plans for a whole Spidey film universe that were batshit insane, including solo films for each villain, an Aunt May film, team ups, and selling to Marvel Studios for outrageous prices
>Amazing 2's failure is what spared us from that insanity
>Venom, by pure luck, wound up "so-bad-it's-good" instead of just plain bad
>Spiderverse was good, because Sony Pictures mostly ignored it and let the directors do their thing

Say whatever the you want about Disney. Seriously, even I think that trying to alter the deal was a terrible move, and Disney were fools for making a gamble like that. But I trust Marvel Studios more than I currently trust Sony Pictures to make a decent film.

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Pretty much this. Sony fucked up Spider-Man 3, seriously thought a Sinister Six movie would make 2 billion, and the only reason Spider-Verse was good was because Sony was hands-off on it and allowed the creatives to work, instead of forcing in Venom.

And they haven't had a video game console they didn't fuck up since the PS2, almost 20 years ago.

This! Sure the animation is god tier and even I would admit to that, but the story and characters are shit desu, plus it is another Miles story line and those fucking suck.

>threadbare plot and a severe misunderstanding of the main character
Sounds like you didn't watch it.

It finally made Miles a good, likable character.

He was never a good likable character, he is Bendis trash and deserves to be in the trash, if they wanted a good nonwhite spider-man then they should have gone for 2099.

miles is a really good spiderman

Yeah it does for some reason.

A good character doesn't need to be pushed endlessly for years until something sticks, sorry to say but he is a boring worthless shitshow of a character, for fucksake he has electrokinisis, and invisibility, but instead of using these powers to come up with some fun tactics in battle he does the typical electric punch and hide shit which is boring.

I still don't know what they changed about the character in the movie outside of them giving miles a love of graffitti

So are you content with at best being the 2nd best version of a character? (though I still prefer miguel over him)

I suspect the "anyone can be Spider-Man" shtick wouldn't go over well in anything other than an elseworlds story, but my point wasn't that Spider-verse was bad (or even adhered to my uncharitable reading), but that its most fervent proponents let it get away with things, they'd never let another movie get away with.

ITSV is a good enough reason to keep Spider-man away from Disney. Rest assured that if the mouse was in full control you'd never see anything of the quality of Spider-verse again.
You realize Sony just paid Lord and Miller a boatload of money to produce several shows and continue over-seeing the Spider-verse movies right? They're basically Sony's Feige.

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It's a charismatic performance, but that's about it.

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Maybe we can get a Peni Parker movie with this version of Peni, that would be nice. Since ITSV came up with its own thing and the comics Peni was nothing like this.

This but unironically.

Miles was co-created by Bendis and Pichelli and the movie is proof that all you have to do to make Miles good is get him away from Bendis, furthermore if you watched the movie you'd know that the sequel hook at the end teased that the next movie will be 2099.

You forgot a fresh Peni picture.

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Nah, he's been pushed way too much despite better spider-men existing, he is boring and I don't care. I don't want anymore stories on him because he takes up time from far more interesting characters, like shit even Spider-gwen is more interesting then he is.

honestly the worst part is he doesn't add anything, he's just there to kill peter and take screen time away from one of the best supporting casts in comics. I'd rather a Daily Bugle movie than a miles movie or learn about ravencroft institute, but no you niggas just gotta kill peter than completely rely on peter to make your little cuck oc work

Peter is still alive though.

Peter was killed off so he could become spider-man in the ultimate universe, this was ultimately (no pun intended) seen as a bad move. The spider-verse movie for some odd reason does the same thing, and for that it can fuck off.

A peter is still alive user, Miles not only prevents any real progression with pete impossible user but he hasn't added shit to the lore. Peter dying makes his motivation guilt based, his uncle dying gives him a vendetta literally his love interest is gwen stacy what new thing has miles added to the franchise in his almost decade of publishing?

What if Miles Morales comes out as transgender in the next movie and they go to the science lab to turn him into a lady, then he gets to be called Spider-Lady?

They won't. Sony will fuck up as always like the last two. ITSV will suffer the same fate

>The spider-verse movie for some odd reason does the same thing, and for that it can fuck off
The Spider-Man in Mile's universe that dies is just like any number of one off, non-main Spider-Men that get killed off. The situation in the movie adaptation is vastly different because it's not about a well liked character with a ton of comics and stories and side characters under their belt being killed and replaced with some underwhelming new character. In the Spider-verse version, Miles is the only Spider-Man that ever mattered to the audience.

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Exactly, he's even blonde, which Peter has never been, just so nobody confuses him for the real Peter Parker.

It is still the same fucking shitty story from the comics with one or two minor changes, and as such it can go fuck off. Hell the spider-man that died I bet would have still been far more interesting then Miles. His character sucked when he got introduced, still sucks now.

Even though the movie names his universe 616.

This, the movie glosses over ultimate Peters death like it meant nothing just to prop up Miles, worse then even the fucking shitty comics, and people fucking defend this bullshit too.

What makes the story shitty?

Its paper thin and propped up by convenience, and forces you to ignore it with jokes and colors being thrown at you. Gwen is there just to get a meet cute with Miles and shows no remorse over peter's death even though she could've prevented it. MJ being at her husband's killers party for a scene to emasculate peter B. If it didn't force gwen and miles together I could ignore the constant shitting on peter and the logical fallacies in the movie but they made their bed and I won't ever pay to see one of these movies

Logical fallacies in a movie that has spider people and multiple universes. Interesting criticism.

Which one comic or the movie, with the comic they killed off Peter in a retarded way so they can swap him for Miles, now the issue here was Miles is fucking boring, he makes no choices of his own and consistently gets called the best ever, he even gets over powered powers which he barely uses until the plot demands it, and the only reason he is heroing is over his guilt for Peter dying. Now you can argue that Peter does the same, except it doesn't Peter heroes because of his uncles final words still stick with him, with great power comes great responsibility. Now to be fair this all wouldn't be too bad, because while Bendis just fucking shat on the ultimate universe at least you can ignore it and go to the og universe with good old Peter having fun. That was until they canceled the ultimate universe for low sales, granted this came after clone Parker popping up and telling Miles how he is the best spider-man ever, I am paraphrasing of course but it gets the point down on how Bendis writes shit. Now with the death of the ultimate Universe the head ups at marvel decided to throw Miles in with Peter into the 616, and since fucking then Marvel has been pushing that fucking shitshow of a character into anything. The Movie seems to more or less incorporate the same story into it, but if I recall they changed Peters death into an even more embarrassing one with him getting pretty much one shot, Miles gets punched the same way later but survives because fuck you that's why. Peter does pop in but he is a fat washed up loser who can't do anything right, how did he get fat despite having super powers that should increase his metabolic rates, fucked if I know dude is a scientist so he probably number crunched it. I can go on, but in all honestly the comment is way too long.

>Peter heroes because of his uncles final words still stick with him, with great power comes great responsibility.
This isn't actually a line from the comics, it's from the Raimi Spider-Man movie. This alone proves to me that you don't actually read the comics and thus I can ignore the rest of your rant as a list of falsehoods.

>keeps making more great stuff like ITSV

the gimmick has worn off, making it likely to underperform in its sequel

>They establish that AU characters can't remain in Miles world for more than a few days
>Gwen is there for a week no problem

>Peter dies fighting three guys
>Doesn't bring any of the armor or stealth suits to make his fight easier

>MJ going to her husbands killers party showing no saddness or problem with seeing his effigy everywhere

>Miles killing aaron is a plot point for a second until his father just forgives him

The movie just serves to shit all over the legacy it co opts to sell itself on. quite acting like you're not only here for the ADD high it gives you with the bright colors and rap music. The lego movie did the story better with more interesting characters and funnier gags

>>Miles killing aaron is a plot point for a second until his father just forgives him
Except Miles didn't kill him, Kingpin did, and his father realized that.

>op wants more post modern deconstructions of classic heroes with diversity hire replacements at the end

why

yes because his father is going to just assume that seeing spiderman standing over his body in an alley to the kingpin right away

He didn't assume that, he saw Miles standing over his corpse, thought Miles killed him, but later saw Miles fighting Kingpin realized that Miles was a hero and he had misunderstood the situation. It's becoming clear you didn't watch the movie and probably just watched the CinemaSins video of it.

It is a line from the comics, granted original it was slightly different but over the years this is how he remembered him by, where else did you think the movies got it from you fucking casual. Granted I'll give you this, uncle Ben wasn't the first one to speak it, it was more narration at the time. Though that changed through flashbacks.

If it was a line from the comics you would have no trouble proving it because you could literally just post a picture. So prove it.

Ok give me a sec this shit is in amazing fantasy, lets see if I can fucking find this shit.

I found it first.

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>and a severe misunderstanding of the main character
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Ok fair, was going for the full comic page desu, but this works too.

Well, I found that as well.

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Oh where did you find that one? I could only find the remake which looks like shit.

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Replace Sony with Disney and we're set

Jesus christ stop acting like contrived (((plotholes))) have any bearing over the actual quality of the product you fucking autist

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Both just popped up on google pretty quickly when I typed "amazing fantasy with great power" (without the quotes though). Either way while I was right that Uncle Ben didn't initially say it you seem to generally know what you are talking about so I take back what I said earlier and defer to your authority.

how is gwen not a total plot hole?

That's fair, also I decided to go straight for the comic book instead of using random google because I thought it would be better that way.

>People shit on Miles even though Spiderverse fixed him on the sole basis that "Bendis shoved him" and "He's just black Peter"

>Sucks dick to Miguel, literally Latino Peter (even in appearance he's basically McFarlane Pete) with the only selling point being that he's from the future
>Sucks dick to Mayday, a character that's essentially "FemPeter minus flaws" (to the point JJ doesn't hate Spider-Girl for some reason) and was constantly shoved around because DeFalco wanted to make his Boruto Marvel universe canon

how did spiderverse fix him? They just doubled down on the worst part about him

And what I hate most about you miles fags is when people don't fall in line with your love of bendises cucked ideas you just attack everything else as if your shit don't stink as well. And mayday adds to the lore of spider-man by having a motivation beyond being guilted into it. What has miles added in his 9 years of publication?

Sony got lucky once and just happened to hire talented writers / directors. Who are not coming back for their own sequel.

They've managed to fuck up everything else.

>Shitting on Miguel
>sucking off Miles
Will admit though never read anything of Mayday so I can't comment on it, but Miguel was arguably more interesting then Peter, especially how badly fucked he got by his boss which forced him to try and mutate himself to fix it, only for some asshole to fuck with the process and give him powers. Don't shit on better characters while propping your shitty ones up, you can like Miles all you want, but trying to clam Miles is better then Miguel is both factually wrong and dishonest. Heck Miguel is fucking funny due to how much shit he gives everyone, heck he talks shit to the guy who tried to get him hooked on a fucked up drug that couldn't be cured. Why? Because he was out of fucks to give, heck he didn't even want to become a hero, he just got stuck with it because it was the only way for him to fight back against that shitty megacorp that fucked him over. But due to actual character growth by being said hero he becomes a better man and strives to do good for everyone around him.

Spider-girl is pretty much a silver age comic book wacky adventures emphasizing single issues of development over long arcs with corney dialogue backed by a solid lead. She isn't a mary sue though and she lost plenty of fights before getting her legs under her

Sounds fun desu.

>They never gave a time frame for how long a person can stay inside a universe besides there own before dying. Early drafts had jokes that provided a more accurate time frame to when a spider would perish by celluar degradation but those got removed. The time frame is just ***Soon™

>Unknown about his previous actions. Probably a hot pursuit with Goblin turned into an encounter larger than he was expecting.

>MJ wouldn't know that Kingpin was the killer. How would she have access to that information. They only person who saw Kingpin cave Parker's head in besides Prowler and Tombstone was Miles.

>A background check into Uncle Aaron would reveal his identity as The Prowler, His death 'caused by a gunshot wound. But if that's not enough of logic because "Well the previous Spider-man didn't use guns, but we don't know anything about this new guy!" Why would Spider-man drag a wounded man away from a location of Super Villain activity?

What else you got?

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Yeah. Like when she completely wiped the floor with The new Green Goblin 5 seconds after she decided to be a super-hero, with zero combat training, and who the New Goblin had literally been training his ENTIRE LIFE to kill Peter.

How did the new Gob fair against Peter? Did they fight at all? Because it could be that he was a massive jobber who got rekt by a kid with super powers which isn't a weird thing to happen in comics. I am asking because I've read fuck all about her.

Pete was missing a leg at this time, but yeah, he was getting killed. If I remember right Normie was a bit disappointed with how easy it was.

Normie was mentally unstable wanted peter to kill him, it was the whole point of him putting on the costume. He got two hits in than got pulled away from being hit by a truck. Better than Miles one shotting an eldritch god with his venom blasts

I see you still have no answer for what has Miles added to the franchise. MJ knew who peter was and would've known who her husband was hunting. But I get you can only find joy in something when its stolen. Within two days of peter being in the universe he almost died and thats the same time all of the other spiders went down like that, and why did gwen end up a week in the past and why didn't her spider sense lead her to pete? also why did she show no remorse or have any emotional reaction to her supposed best friend dying again.

Though everything your bitching about came from the original what if where there was no expectation to make the story last beyond a single issue.

>Pete was missing a leg at this time
Did he just lose the leg or was it an old wound?
>Better than Miles one shotting an eldritch god with his venom blasts.
I... Fucking what? How in the shit is his electrokinisis this fucking powerful yet he always does the basic bitch punch with it and never anything interesting for fucksake. And another thing why the fuck is it called Venom blast when it has nothing to do with venom? If he had small spikes in his arms that delivered venom when he punched then I would understand it.

...

It was in what if 105. Peter lost his leg in his last fight against norman roughly 16 years before the issue and Normie was mentally unstable and used the goblin formula on himself to call peter out. After a short scuffle Mayday pops in to save her dad and fights normie, they get into a scuffle but she webs a bomb to his hand and it blows up on him, she saves him after that and thats the end of the issue.

In Miles first issue of the avengers (and first issue being in the 616) he fights blackhart after he beat the avengers and venom blasts him into submission.This is also his new secret origin to explain why he uses the name spiderman despite having no connection to peter and on the next page pete comments that miles has a better costume. Though we still don't know where he got the webshooters or even when he got his powers in relation to the rest of 616

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Mayday is leagues better than Miles.

Ah an old wound, did he go cyber or simple prosthetic?
> they get into a scuffle but she webs a bomb to his hand and it blows up on him
That doesn''t sound too bad desu, it sounds like more she used his power against him which is pretty okay in my book.
>In Miles first issue of the avengers (and first issue being in the 616) he fights blackhart after he beat the avengers and venom blasts him into submission.This is also his new secret origin to explain why he uses the name spiderman despite having no connection to peter and on the next page pete comments that miles has a better costume. Though we still don't know where he got the webshooters or even when he got his powers in relation to the rest of 616
Jesus christ now that is bad, him beating down someone who soloed the fucking avengers shouldn't be allowed, not unless he did it in a clever way through tactics not just fucking tasering the cunt to death, fucking Tony could do that, heck most of shield could too.
>pete comments that miles has a better costume.
I'd disagree, but that is mostly a taste issue.
>Though we still don't know where he got the webshooters or even when he got his powers in relation to the rest of 616
Probably never will, marvel editors and writers don't give a shit.

You're goddamned right user. Hey look its a number miles is never going to see

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Blame Jessica drew on that.

Her venom blast shoot out electrically, bendis just copy it.

He probably will, not because his books are selling or people want to read, but because Marvel is that fucking determined to push him.

>glosses over Peter's death
>When Miles' motivation is struggling with insecurities related to fulfilling Peter's last wish
>When the city has a huge funeral wake for him
>When Kingpin's holding a Spider-Man remembrance dinner as a cover for his plan
Someone sure didn't watch the movie they're complaining about.

He went wooden. Reed tried to make him a prosthetic but could never get the sticking right. So pete just chose to retire and raise his family

I just stick to good old Peter, or Miguel desu, and something tells me I made mostly the right choice.

Ah I see, no wonder he lost then, not only was he missing a leg, but he was probably rusty to all kinds of hell.

No he physically never will because they combined his numbering with ultimate peter to trick people into thinking he has a history. Though technically I think he's getting close to it now if you still take his ultimate run into account, but I doubt he'd ever be able to get one run to hit that number

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The fight with Blackheart (After the Avengers had tussled with him) was encounter like 30 or so for Miles Spider-man Career. Mayday's fight with the New Green Goblin was her first. Miles ate shit on his first night out attempting to be a real hero because he's never been in a fight before and 1/2 the villains he encounters have all faced Spider-man before so they're used to Agility and Web shooters. Mayday didn't get touched throughout her entire first encounter.

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Pretty much, if you like silverage type comics I would reccomend spider-girl, it isn't perfect but it is a nice continuation of his story, and they just released the second volume of her complete collection

Ah fair enough, still wish marvel would stop pushing him for a while or throw him into another universe or something, I am tired of him.

616 career user, learn to read. Miles didn't remember the ultimate universe at the time hence his shitty memory of why he's also spider-man

And pete once teamed up with daredevil to fight blackhart for their 100th something encounter, and they would've gotten their shit pushed in if he didn't retreat.

And mayday almost lost the fight only getting a lucky shot by webbing a pumpkin bomb to his hand, and remember that was his first fight as well

I'll take a look when I can then.
>suddenly get flashbacks to that point when some retard made it a big deal in the comics how spider-man was a "person of color" because his suit ripped.
Goddamn don't even remember when that happened, all I know is that it happened and I cringed.

The funniest thing about the issue showed is we see Hobgoblin (the original kingsley) jobs to aaron to justify him as a threat and actually works for him.

He does remember 1610. Or at least bits a pieces of it. He's the same Miles from that universe, all of that experience of being on the Ultimates, fighting in the Divided we Fall arc, Battleworld, etc. are all experience he has under his belt.

You're telling me that a person that trains in a gym everyday for 5-8 years, while also studying the abilities of their opponent is going to lose to a person that has never thrown a punch? Really?

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What is Miles' mask made out of that the eye can shatter like that, I thought these suits were made out of some sort of fabric.

>You're telling me that a person that trains in a gym everyday for 5-8 years, while also studying the abilities of their opponent is going to lose to a person that has never thrown a punch? Really?
In a one on one fight, yeah it could happen, not likely but the person who never thrown a punch can get a lucky shot in, and from what I am hearing it does seem she got a lucky webshot onto the bomb which beat him.

Only if you're going to tell me that a usurper thats never had an original story is better than a character made with love and reverence to the franchise shes added to

Miles doesn't remember his past clearly hence his awkward memory of why he uses the spider-man name, because pete should remember if miles does. Its why he attacked eddie venom he thinks something bad happened because of him but doesn't know why. And are you really trying to say that a street level hero beating a literal god is more believable than a mentally unstable person, who was looking to die, losing against a girl?

Phi lord Isn't the only reason it's good, if that were the case then why did Lego movie 2 suck so hard?

>If you ignore the movie's stupidity then it becomes a good movie with no stupid things in it
Woah

You're assuming Parker apprised MJ all of the details of his investigation without him putting anybody in jail yet. That's unlikely, The only person would probably be close enough to Parker's work to figure out Kingpin was the cause of Pete's demise would be Aunt May.

All of the spiders "almost died", There's no time frame given for when cell death is terminal. But just because they don't state one doesn't detract from the Urgency for the team to get home.

For the time travel every spider that entered Miles universe had a hard stop against a billboard or sign. Gwen arrested her fall by grabbing a pole at the end of her warp before falling on her butt.

Spider-sense isn't a radar pointing you towards other Spider-potentials, it's a proximity alarm for when one is close. New York is a rather large place.

1610 Pete is not her best friend. She distinguishes the two as separate people, Even then she hints that she struggled a little bit with that.

What else you got?

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Whats the point of miles in the first place? What does he ad to the franchise? Being a young spider person with a guilt complex and having gwen stacy as a love interest isn't braoching new territory

And are you actually saying that gwen got launched back in time because she wanted to? That is actively retarded, the spider sense is a way of sensing other spiders its why she said she went to the high school she was looking for miles. And how does the cellular degradation not then go faster with her time disparity? and why would his wife not know who he is and what he does? are you claiming their marriage is a sham?

>Kills Spidey
>Props up Miles like some spider-god
Movie was ok but I dunno why people praise it as much as they do.

>>Props up Miles like some spider-god
The movie didn't even do this, he was a chump all the way up till almost the end of the movie. Why do you feel the need to lie?

>You're assuming Parker apprised MJ all of the details of his investigation
Which i find simply funny because MJ and Peter always were extremely supporting of each other in marriage traditionally, so turning her into an oblivious idiot that Peter wouldn't even trust with the secrets of his hero business, all for the sake of some cheap "shocking" scenes, means she might aswell not have been there for me

Because muh graphix

>Mixing Sony Pictures with Sony Animation
>Forgetting the executive meddling made to Hotel Transylvania 2 and 3 after the success of the first one.
>ITSV sequel will not have the writers of the first one

Prepare for the worst user

That's just it. He ran his ass off most of the movie and then out of nowhere at the end he can go invisible and shoot lightning and beat up Kingpin like it's nothing. They never explain how that spider conveniently was where it was that gave him his powers. Real Spidey dies like a chump just to give Miles attention. Then shlubby Spidey is a pissbaby the whole time and is only saved because big bad Miles is the better Spidey. Shit's retarded.

Depends
>They just praise it for the sake of the animation and ignore all the rest, either actively or inadvertently
>They do it to prop up Miles as the diverse hero everyone should praise
>They do it to spite other franchises or Spiderman movies since someone at some point decided Sony is a little poor indie company that needs all the support it can get
>Shit taste

Don't forget ITSV was born from two ridiculous ideas: making Amazing 3 animated and the crossover between Maguire and Garfield.

If they dont renegotiate we will get the Sinister Six movie they wanted to make since 2012

>They're basically Sony's Feige.
Remember what happened to Lego movie sequel?

Man I really hope they renegotiate. I don't want another reboot. I don't want Spideys movies to ignore everything that's happened like it was all nothing. I just want a continuous ongoing story in the world that's been set up. This doesn't mean I'm on goddamn Disneys side. I just want things to continue as nice as they were. If it's Disneys fault, get the stick out of your ass. If it's Sony's fault, get the stick out of your ass. If it's both their fault then stick, ass, etc.

Its also something that was done in the 90s cartoon that was also produced by avi arad

To be fair there is that old saying about broken clocks being right sometimes.

>beat up Kingpin like it's nothing
user what movie did you watch? Miles almost died on the train before Kingpin’s family started to glitch into their reality and distracted him, and he got the shit beat out of him soon after. He beat Kingpin by catching him off guard to hit him with a Venomshock.

Who fucking cares? The Spider-Man movies have always sucked, every single one of them. If they had let Raimi make 3 the way he wanted maybe we would have finally gotten one good one but we couldn't even get that. Reboot, no reboot, Spider-Child is a creative drag and every movie is just a stagnant, merchandise-selling pond of wasted potential. He's literally the most popular super hero and he can't get decent movies, let that sink in. The sole reason the latest animated film was even good is because it had solid direction and art direction, nothing about the plot or characters was particularly impressive. People are completely fine with just phoning in anything regarding Spider-Man because they know it will sell no matter what due to his innate popularity. The latest film series is no exception and with or without Feige the future films will blow ass.

She always got the after action report on his patrols or his missions, I know they always shared that. I don't remember Pete sharing details with MJ when he was currently working on something (Back when they were married) Unless it was some catastrophic event that was out in the public anyway. I could be wrong though.

Miles is still the face of multi-verse Spider-people, and he's the precursor to the modern concept of the Spider-verse. His story is unlike any other in western media from what I can tell. The closest comparison I can think of is Jamie Reyes and even then that's not really comparable. His existence prevents Parker from being de-aged, He adds new tension to Pete's stories and provides a graceful exit for Parker should he want to hang up his shooters for a bit to start a family or retire. He won an Oscar, a Golden Globe, an Annie, a Hugo award, and a crap ton of other accolades I don't really want to list out. He seems to be the only Legacy Character out right now whose still selling comics. Not sure what else you want from him?

Gwen didn't do it on purpose, the time travel was an accident 'caused by her trying not to go splat against a wall.

Gwen wasn't initially in BVA looking for Miles. Seems pretty obvious she was doing research on how to get home. The first we get a good look at her she's watching a Documentary on Alchemax. Her 2nd day at BVA she was drawn to Miles because he'd just been bit a few hours ago and his powers were developing.

The cellular degradation goes back to that "soon" time frame. If a Doctor says you could die horribly anywhere from 10 minutes to 6 months from now unless you do a simple procedure are you really going be in any less of a hurry to get it done?

MJ does know who he is and what he does. She just may not know EVERYTHING that he's doing. I assume it's like how being married to a cop. Pete may have just not been comfortable sharing everything until his case was wrapped up.

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What was one thing wrong about Lego Movie 2 besides that it didn't do well at the B.O.? (which for this year seems to be every movie that isn't produced by Disney)

>Miles is a story unlike any in western media
A legacy super hero? That's new? Bitch when spidergeddon happened he was listed as the spiderman of 616 Spidergwen is more known as a multiversal hero and doc ock is also going through his multiverse arc. Miles is just a copy of a copy only getting support because he's a black character not because he does anything new in the books and is nothing but a drag on everything. Hence why he's never had his own name hence why Bendis paired her with Gwen (In a story where they learn that the path to world peace is their marriage) He's just a piece of propaganda that you niggas latch onto because you think it means something to be the 5th spiderman

ITSV is like Deadpool. It only turned out good because the execs expected a failure and turned a blind eye.
Now that they know it was liked they're gonna b e more active in trying to make it more profitable, which usually means cutting out what made it loved in the first place

>Miles is still the face of multi-verse Spider-people
So the face of pointless shit that has yet to produce a good story?
>His story is unlike any other in western media from what I can tell
What the fuck am i reading
>His existence prevents Parker from being de-aged
Says who? The comics industry is a volatile thing, you already have examples of Peter and Miles being put in the same age range like the latest TV show
>He adds new tension to Pete's stories
Again, what the fuck are you talking about. If anything his presence prevents tension, he's more often than not a trump card for no reason. He became freaking Captain Universe even
>and provides a graceful exit for Parker should he want to hang up his shooters for a bit to start a family or retire
How meaningless, not to mention we have much better characters for that

I'm not even gonna bother reading the rest, you sound so ridiculously infatuated that you might as well be Bendis himself sucking his own dick for all i can tell

I think it is Bendis, look how hard he is sucking off Miles with all that bullshit desu.

But Deadpool 2 was even better than Deadpool 1.

There are no stories like Miles Morales. Legacy Characters are always a Torch pass, The protege takes over after the original retires or attempts to avenge them after the original is killed. Miles story is not a Torch pass, the torch is dropped mostly due to Miles' cowardice. The Mentor that was supposed to teach things is no longer around. The Legacy picks up the torch and attempts to finish the race. Bouncing ideas off Ganke on how best to proceed, Gaining 2nd hand knowledge from Aunt May, Gwen, MJ, and even an Alternate dimension version of his dead predecessor, turning to his criminal uncle as a possible method to keep track of crime while getting some serious combat experience. There's no Legacy like that unless I'm missing something?

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>trying to sell the idea that Miles Moralis wasn't a boring mess of a character
>"He was always good guyz, I sware"
Nope, you can fuck off with that bullshit right now, in fact due to your autism with sucking off Miles, I'm going to keep on posting cute batgirl pictures with everyone of your posts so people can get something good after reading through your bullshit.

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One jaimi reyes, two buckys tenure as cap, Jim rhodes tenure as iron man and tony taking it back, finally that story hasn't been his for 4 years, he's nothing but a diversity hire given an already popular name and he's done nothing with it. Hence why you've only been able to talk about stories from 8 years ago in a dead universe. You don't want something made you just want to destroy something to feel popular

>Miles is a random nobody with no relation to Peter or Spiderman's history, that makes him cool and fresh and unique!
No, it makes him a random nobody with no relation to Spiderman that wears the name for no reason (literally since they still haven't come up with a 616 backstory) and clutters the franchise along with all the other stupid decisions that have been going on for the last decade

Garbage

ITSV Miles is a very good Spider-Man, everywhere else he kind of sucks ass.

I hear that in the comics he wants to fuck Cassie Lang so he can't be all that bad.

>great stuff
>into the spider-verse
kek.
The animation style was good but that's it.
the movie was garbage.

this picture is AIDs

Shut up retard.

Everyone point and laugh
I can only imagine what it's like being as brainless as this user

>s-shut up!
Or what, faggot?
You going to cry?

>not liking a movie that was objectively bad makes you brainless
the absolute state of these consumerist brainlets.

MCU wasn't doing anything interesting with Spider-Man anyway. There was almost nothing core-spidey about him. Here's hoping they don't fuck it up.

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As nice as it is to have pete in a shared universe he really doesn't need it, you could easily to a six movie series without even leaving the ditko villains

That movie was great because of Phil Lord and Chris Miller. So long as they're able to have full control of those movies. Their directors, cast, and talented crew will continue to flourish.

.....but yeah. That next live action Spider-Man movie are gonna fuckin suck.

Welp. I said this.
And I just read So. Spider-Verse is going to fail too. This fucking blows.

I'm fully expecting them to pull a Pacific Rim 2 amplitude blunder with ITSV2.

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That's a big fucking if considering the only thing that's consistent about Sony is them fucking all the good things up. Especially the movie franchises.

Here's a quick list of great franchises Sony ruined:
- Spider-man (twice)
- Men in Black
- Ghosbusters
- Starship Troopers
- Zorro
- Resident Evil
- Smurfs
- Various Final Fantasy movies

In fact, the only franchises they have that are in good shape right now are Jumanji and Karate Kid and that's also taking into account that it's just franchises they currently have a stake in, for example, Sony was also heavily involved in 1998 Godzilla movie and Ghost Rider movies.

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Uniroinically this. Reading his greentext post was fucking retard.

>MJ going to her husbans killers party showing no sadness or problem with seeing his effigy everywhere

There's nothing that states she knew Kingpin murdered him and the world obviously knows who Spider-Man is, but MJ can't be fucking inconsolable there. She knew what the event is about and if it was too much for her emotionally. She would not have shown up.

And it's said by Stan Lee. Not Uncle Ben. So. Yes. You're still fucking wrong. There's a comic that came maybe 30-ish years after that that retcon it into being a saying from Uncle Ben, but. As everyone else said before. That line was made famous by Raimi Spider-Man. Which is why they used the audio from that fucking movie in that scene in the first place.

I think the problem have most with Peter in the MCU is one, they introduced him too late. Everything is so established by the time Peter arrives that he ends up naturally being the little brother/son of the group, and that's not really where the character thrives, and two, the wider universe characters he really benefits from interacting with outside his personal villains are characters like Luke Cage, Daredevil, Punisher, you know the NY based street level characters who aren't even IN the movies because they were all on Netflix. That's the world Peter inhabits like 90% of the time, and yet the MCU has sent him all over the world and universe in three out of his five movies so he can interact with aliens and superspies, with only one of them taking place primarily in his home turf, and that's such a rare thing in the comics that it was kind of weird at the end of FFH when we see Spidey swinging around Manhattan and it's basically the first time he's done that..

All Spider-Man suits have glass lenses. Well. They were plastic.

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What does the batman have to do with a Spider-verse thread?
Bucky worked with cap as a sidekick before the winter soldier and becoming Buck cap. Rhodey was a close friend of Tony before he took over as Iron man. Jamie Reyes was the closest but he was gifted a magical backpack that gave him all the knowledge he needed to take out the machinations of Bat-God. With the exception of Jamie whose Scarab gave him all the knowledge he needed to succeed these are all torch passes. Where's the drop? Where's the missing mentor? Where's the trial and error?
He doesn't have a 616 backstory because he's not from 616. His story is still ongoing from his 1610 days.

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Miller and Lord aren't doing sequel as directors, but Joaquim Dos Santos is attached to it. You know, the guy who knew what the fuck he was doing with bending in Aang's show and I am going to go on a limb and claim was entirely responsible for how good looking Korra's first season was (he was co-director of all S1 episodes, but fucked off after probably realizing Korra was a mistake).

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They didn't direct the first movie either. One wrote and the other produced it. Which is honestly where I'd be fine for them to remain at. I just need them to stay attached to the universe and those movies.

Dos Santos also did well with Voltron.

ust like Gwen being in Miles universe for a week with no problem MJ being at the kingpins party was needed for the story regardless of character logic. She knew and the writers just wanted to humiliate peter by showing his wife didn't love him just like we saw his first love fall in love with someone else. Miles is just a parasite taking from the host without regard and he needs a shitty peter to cover up how weak he is conceptually

Something I decided to do since you keep on sucking Miles dick there lad, so I have to post some cute girls to try and negate that, don't worry once I run out of Batgirl I'll start posting other girls to.

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Stan Lee never wrote that line or even uttered it.
It was written by some other writer a long time ago and it was attributed to Stan Lee. He just ran with it because...dude kinda had no shame AND he probably assumed that he did write it in his twilight years.

Also

>. That line was made famous by Raimi Spider-Man.
Are you quite honestly out of your tiny motherfucking mind?

I hatr you miles niggers because you just handwave all the problems with the character away with

>no he's from the ultimate universe
>no she's from another universe
>No he's in the 616 universe

Rhodey literally took the iron man title from Tony because he was at his lowest, where is the mentorship there? Bucky came back from the dead and had the title thrust upon him before he was ready and before he could really reconnect with steve. Miles is just a character her to exacerbate racism being a wholesale boring replacement, and the niger can't even do that properly because he's not even from that universe anymore. You identify yourself through negativity and revel when you get to play the "good guy" fighting racists not acknowledging that you need that racism to justify your entire life. He's a fucking plague on the industry and shows that Bendis is just a cuck who made his fetish profitable by marketing it towards children.

Miles shows children that anyone is replaceable and you don't have to be unique in the world you can just co-opt another persons legacy to define yourself rather than defining your own

You mad.

What's with your obsession with cuckoldry? This is the third time you've used that word.

>co hates spider-verse now
What happened???

It's just Yea Forums rejects flooding in. Happening more and more lately.

Why would they do that?

It's Sony. They don't make decisions that make sense.

Miles is cuckold propaganda user, I only call it as I see it. I didn't think so at first initially but seeing all of these anons obsessed with pairing him with gwen stacy just show that the propaganda was successful

So, if we cut down Peter ones

Miles will have over 50+ issues.

They don't want to pay for oscar winners

Don't try to handwaive you racism you complete knob.
You don't like miles because he's black.
You even shit on rhodey while lionizing bucky saying that rhodey TOOK the ironman title while bucky had it thrust upon him

I know you people have been emboldened by the whole "anti-woke" thing but don't pretend that you're dislike of the character has anything to do with some deep high minded ideal.
Every single goddamned one of your fucking heroes is and has been easily fucking replaced.
Even uncle ben was replaced by ironman and spiderman is now replacing ironman and ironboy is replacing spiderman.

You people are the very people that this obviously hamfisted attempt at pushing "SJW" and "WOKE" shit onto comics is for.

To rile you losers up.
Truth?

Spiderman fucking sucks across the goddamned board now. None of the movies are any good.
None of the comics are any good.
None of the cartoons are any good now.

Spiderman is fucking DEAD as a character.
IM lives and dies with RDJ and Cap America was only cool in the movies and occasionally during the civil war.

That's it.

Now get the fuck out and stop trying to wreathe your open and obvious biggotry in false fucking comic geekry you waste of spunk.

If you cut the ultimate universe out entirely then you'd get around that yes. But if you keep only Miles ultimate books you get about 90 issues

I care, bitchtits.

Plz

Peter parker cucks more than miles.

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Rhody took it from a drunken white man who showed no qualms with using a weapon like the iron man suit completely inebriated. He took the Iron man name but through that he created his own legacy as war machine. That's something Miles has never done and something he's never going to do because cucks like you think it means anything that a popular name is selling with a new character, who has no real connection to the name yet has the complete support of editorial. I tried to accept miles but I realized that bendis was allowed to get away with anything regardless of how it fit into the universe as a whole. Miles had a point in the ultimate universe but he has no point as is in the 616 he's a pretender that is only considered good because of cowards who claim that constant potential means something after 9 years of it going terribly. YOu want to claim being a "real geek" go ahead you feckless prick only liking things as they're popular and then throwing them under the bus the moment they become convenient to the conversation. Your a prick looking to say nothing because you have "current social moray" at your back despite having no point personally then attack when backed into a corner

>you don't like a character not because they are bland and boring, but because they are black.
Go fuck yourself you moral crusading cuntbag, I fucking hate current fucking comics because they think writing shit and then making sure the character is "Progressive" is somehow a way to deflect criticism and here you are helping that shit out, fuck off with your bullshit. Not even that user, but trying to deflect criticism with that bullshit is fucking weak user, fuck off to twitter if you want to pull that bullshit. Hell the animated DC shows did a better fucking job back in the day, did they fucking do this shit? No, they focused on fucking good writing, hell I even like the current run of blue beetle because his power is fucking interesting, hell the brave and the bold introduced me to him, and did they make it important to his character how he was fucking brown in that series? No, that wasn't even an important part of his character, now go fuck off and take your retarded shit elsewhere maybe reddit considering how that fucking shit is spaced.

Technology not Peter, but it's still cuckolding.

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>produce several shows
There's a problem with that though. According to Greg Weissman, all television rights went back to Marvel in exchange for Sony having better options with their films shortly before Disney bought them. That means any Spider-Verse show would have to be made with Marvel/Disney's blessing, which likely won't happen.

>Rhody took it from a drunken white man

You've been emoboldened by the backlash against modern media and wealthy greedy essentially evil out of touch baby boomers giving the brainwashed lunatics that were left alone with the rapists in media and modern acadamiies as impressionable children and adolescents. user.

You don't like miles because he's black and nothing in your post actively states why you hate him outside of that.
Just be fucking honest.
Be fucking honest and stop pretending you're anything else.

PS

We've been putting spaces between sentences and paragraphs all willy nilly LONG before the Alphabet agencie and wealthy oligarchy backed copy of Yea Forums called reddit was created you fucking pretender.

No lurk until you stop looking like a fucking fraud who's trying and failing to fit in.

Dear Slott/Marvel
No one likes "Spock" and throwing spiderman under the bus to make that embarassment look good serves no one.

All the more incentive for Sony to try and make a deal work.

yes he saw that tony was a broken mess of a person and took the name when he needed to (and it had to be forcibly taken back from him but tony turned to him when he needed a partner and war machine was born) why are you obsessed with that point? I know you don;t read comics but come on

user the only reason you're claiming to like miles is because he's black

Unironically this. Oscar winners are expensive and a liability.

This is fucking retarded. The "Blasted in to last week. Literally!" line is taken too seriously. Gwen shows up the night before Peter dies. Her explanation shows that she was drawn to the school before Miles was even bit. That line is either figurative or literal and Miles' universe is a week behind hers.

Considering you don't understand subtext. So is this

The implication of that line being "made famous by" that movie was that if this many of you fuckers literally think Uncle Ben said "With great power, comes great responsibility" then there's nothing any of us can do to help you.

Also.

>Stan Lee never wrote that line or even uttered it.
It was written by some other writer a long time ago and it was attributed to Stan Lee. He just ran with it because...dude kinda had no shame AND he probably assumed that he did write it in his twilight years.

Stan Lee fucking wrote Amazing Fantasy #15. He wrote that in. You're the one who's out, user. Out of your tiny motherfucking mind.

>You don't like miles because he's black and nothing in your post actively states why you hate him outside of that.
I'll say this once, I'll say this again you fucking cockgobbler, fuck off. Trying to assume that I am racist because I dislike your fucking husbando is fucking retarded especially since one of my favorite characters in fucking DC is fucking Virgil because of the static shock series you fucking shitbag. Now lets go into why I fucking hate Miles with a fucking righteous anger worthy of god himself, I can tell you it is because he is bland, boring, how they kill off a better character before hand. And yes all of that does play a part, especially with how hard Marvel keeps pushing his cardboard ass into everything because they really want him to sell. The main part of it is because I fucking despise Bendis, his form of writing is literally spreading his fat hairy asscheeks and just shitting all over the fucking page, then let everyone else clean it up while patting himself on the fucking back, if you want to fucking suck up that old fuckheads shit, go ahead I ain't gonna stop you, but don't you fucking dare clam it is because I am a fucking bigot you cunt.

Bro, the MCU is a fucking dumpster fire and No one cares for Spiderman.
He's not and has never been done decently in any piece of media you can name.

Hell Ryan Reynolds was doing a better Spiderman in Deadpool 1 for gods sake.

I don't know who else you're talking to but I'm well aware that the line was retconned to be uncle bens line after amazing fantasy came out, why you bother to lump two discussions together is pretty stupid

>You guys are mosconstruding the subtext
>you guys are taking the literal text to literally

Jesus christ man it's just a decent movie laden with propaganda why are you so obsessed with fans of the comic not liking the destruction of its lead character?

For the last week everyone's been telling me the MCU is dead without Spiderman. Now no one cares for Spiderman? Which is it?

>Technology
Made me laugh user

user, the great power and great responsibility line is not in amazing fantasy
It just isn't.

And it's not made famous by fucking Raimi Spiderman.

Everything you are saying is fucking stupid and wrong.

Hypocrisy wins. Sony patented the ITS-V art style
A N D
If Disney respected patents
AND IF
Disney were serious about a -Partner- in Sony they would send their animations through Spider-Verse.
-Reddit Spacing O R a different kind of spacing ©-
But that's isn't the long game winning move. The long game winning move is Hypocrisy; To ignore ITS-V popularity and charm, to create an alternative comic book cartoon style for What If...? to harass the fans via the media in regards to Tom Holland's Spider-Man place in the MCU, etc etc etc.
Sony is left holding the bag, threatening to make Venom quality Morbius, Black & Silver, Carnage, Sinister Six, etc.
Business Practices force Disney to play toward world domination. They can't push-foot around and pretend to be friends. They're even controlling this 'forum'. Everybody knows Sony patented the ITS-V art style and everyone knows it's THE WAY we'd like to see Captain America and the rest of the MCU animated but because Miles is black none of that flow gets play. BTw, I have black hair and non-black skin.

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What the hell are you talking about? What cuckoldry? When did that ever happen?

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I guess the logic is since an alternate universe version of Gwen dated Peter, Miles being interested in a different alternate universe version Gwen where Peter dies and she’s Spider-woman it’s cuckoldry. Also you have to ignore the part where they explicitly and mutually friend-zone each other.

user, Miles from the spiderverse is litterally a less fun rip off of Virgil from Static shock
Even their father looks the same.
Hell Gwen looks like richie except as a hot girl and both of them want the dick.

As for pushing him. You can't name a single solitary modern new character in the comics that aren't a boring as fuck replacement of a much more interesting character.,

MsMarvel is less interesting and far less fappable then the original hot as fuck drunken closet super villain Carol the thiccest ass in all of marvel Danvers
Sam...what the fuck ever can't even carry Richard Riders Jockstrap.
I can fucking go on.
And Gwen as spiderwoman doesn't even deserve to use the fucking name. Fucking Julia Carpenter is more influential and a better fit and would have been a better fit for the movie then Gwen.

But gwen has that hatefuck her into the ground and cream pie her while look to her that just riles up a mans dick.

You say that, but there was one user who spent three days straight shitting up a perfectly good Gwen thread by posting how much he loved the Miles/gwen ship and constantly posting pictures, it was pathetic.

>it’s cuckoldry

It's not.

You also have to ignore the comic where they find out that the path to world peace is apparently them getting married

So what? One user ignored what was explicitly stated in the film for his fetish. Now another user has come out of the retard pit as well, doing the exact same thing, but it’s not his fetish.

In RESPOnse to my post the Zietgiest has decided to discuss genitals and face wars, gross. Animation style and patent law, please.

And those particular comics are relevant to the film how?

>user, Miles from the spiderverse is litterally a less fun rip off of Virgil from Static shock
I disagree, Virgil in the series had his own reasons for becoming a hero, trying to compare him to Miles is fucking wrong and quite frankly I am disgusted you went there.
>Hell Gwen looks like richie except as a hot girl and both of them want the dick.
Fuck off with that shit user, they only made out once then decided to friendzone eachother, they only did that shit because Peter used to date a version of her so they wanted to piss off Peter fans with it and it was trash.
>As for pushing him. You can't name a single solitary modern new character in the comics that aren't a boring as fuck replacement of a much more interesting character.
I can agree with that, there isn't a single new character of recent years I like, in fact I just don't want to read much modern capeshit because of it.
>MsMarvel is less interesting and far less fappable then the original hot as fuck drunken closet super villain Carol the thiccest ass in all of marvel Danvers
Arguable, there is something about her that makes me want to fuck her, not sure what, but I aint letting my dick tell me she is a good character, just like Korra.
>Sam...what the fuck ever can't even carry Richard Riders Jockstrap.
Don't even know who that is, which I guess proves your point.
>And Gwen as spiderwoman doesn't even deserve to use the fucking name. Fucking Julia Carpenter is more influential and a better fit and would have been a better fit for the movie then Gwen.
I can kinda agree, but I think not only is she better off in her own universe like before, but they dropped a ball with how it was all handled, Lizard Peter was an interesting idea which wasn't really explored, they just said fuck it and killed him off.
>But gwen has that hatefuck her into the ground and cream pie her while look to her that just riles up a mans dick.
That I can agree with.

Yes there is no way that any writers ever wanted you to associate gwen stacy with gwen stacy, and Miles is such a unique spiderman that he has gwen stacy as a love interest. The only reason the pairing happened is because bendis was allowed to do it, any other writer would've been stopped by editorial. It was a blatant move to divide the fanbase and prop up miles as if there are no problems with him and only racists could dislike him. I'm not planning on paying to see the next spiderverse and if they push miles to hard in the next spider-man game I won't get it, its a simple as that its what editorial wanted becasue the only way to be on the right side of anything anymore doesn't mean to create a compelling argument of your points, it's to create a wrong side and point them out as much as you can as if that means something

Fucker filled out the pics with his shit, when they should have been full of Gwen doing cute things or slightly lewd pics, instead he fucked it all up because he couldn't keep his autism in check, ship fags are cancer, that is my point.

This, editorial should do their fucking job, they never fucking do it though.

Your post is fucking insane and I don't think anyone knows where to start with it.

Marvel has had a hate boner for pete for the better part of 15 years. I don't know why though

ITSV was only good Yea Forums related film that sony has recently made. They usually make shit like emoji movie or angry birds the movie.

user, you are aware that Spider-Gwen never dated Peter Parker right? And that she’s not the same Gwen that dated Peter Parker in the main line universe? You know that excludes it from fitting the definition of cuckoldry? You honestly just sound like you’re mad a black dude hit on your waifu.

I wish it would fucking stop desu.

>Being this brain dead.

I mean. You're more than welcome to keep being wrong.

Sony is the company that thought it was a good idea to make a movie about emojis? Yikes.

Actually, I find it funny that he keeps on thinking spider-gwen is gwen in order to fit his narrated story.

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Isn't she though? granted she is from another dimension but still.

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Because you kinda talk like the other asshat desu.

It clearly isn't hard someone to lean hard into the literal nature of a line while electing to completely ignore any form of subtlety within the movie. Which was exemplified by the the multiple responses after he went full retard.

>Gwiles isn't happening in the movies.

Delusional

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You realize that posting Barbara in this thread just makes it even more obvious that the ITSV haters are just salty DC fans.

You can think what you want lad, I don't give a fuck.

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If you're going to pretend to be a comic book fan online to shill whatever, then at least do your fucking homework you retard.

THAT'S SPIDER-MAN IS NOTHING BUT BLACK ASS MENACE!

NOT ONLY HE STEALS IDENTITY FROM REAL HEROES!
HE ALSO DUMBASS THAT CAN'T USED HIS POWERS IN USEFUL WAYS!

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FACTS!

if we're luck, sony will step away from the second spiderverse movie just to mitigate the backlash from the disney deal debacle

Here's what I think, I think the only reason you like her is because that big-eyed style makes her look like an anime character.

No I get it she not only didn't date "her peter" she actively has him as a problem to over come. Theres nothing suspicious about turning a tragic love story into a tale of a coal burner and her beta orbiter. Do you niggas have no understanding of subtext and why using gwen like this would be considered insulting? Or do you get off with it? I keep saying I'd be fine with miles having a white love interest but I don't think you'd be able to appreciate it now that you've seen how hard these sad arguments of yours gets you so which one of you posts sins past now

I do find her fun too, and she is a redhead which helps.

Bring me the word of god that they’re gonna go back on the friend-zoning of each other in the sequel and I’ll believe you. Either way it’s not cuckoldry like that retard user suggests it is.

>I disagree, Virgil in the series had his own reasons for becoming a hero, trying to compare him to Miles is fucking wrong and quite frankly I am disgusted you went there.
I don't fucking care what you disagree with.
Into the spiderverse miles is a cheap unfun knock off of static shock.

>Fuck off with that shit user, they only made out once then decided to friendzone eachother, they only did that shit because Peter used to date a version of her so they wanted to piss off Peter fans with it and it was trash.
user, there are no spidermans under the age 60 who gives a single solitary sideways fuck about gwen stacey in comics or in movies or the cartoons.
She's nothing.
Bringing her back as a new spiderwoman enticed no one. IF it wasn't for the costume and the goddamn I'd sink all nine inches into her thicc body they gave her, she'd be a one off character.

>I can agree with that, there isn't a single new character of recent years I like, in fact I just don't want to read much modern capeshit because of it.
Uh huh.

>Arguable, there is something about her that makes me want to fuck her, not sure what, but I aint letting my dick tell me she is a good character, just like Korra.
Current ms.marvel is a fucking 4/10 user. She's cute in a kid sister little way. Nothing more nothing less.
Get some standards.

>Don't even know who that is, which I guess proves your point.
You don't read modern comics do you.

>I can kinda agree, but I think not only is she better off in her own universe like before, but they dropped a ball with how it was all handled, Lizard Peter was an interesting idea which wasn't really explored, they just said fuck it ...

user, I honestly don't care about spider gwen or yet another shitty spiderman knock off universe. I got my fill with spiderman 2099 and slott basically killed the last fucks I had to give

>That I can agree with.
Indeed.
Going to try to pull that vaguely legal "queer" girl with the side cut from that app.

If you want a redhead, pick a superior redhead like Maki.

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Ice cube as a black JJJ shock jock for the spiderverse while MCU JJJ is a shitty conspiracy therorist would work.

Bruh her Peter Parker is dead. She saves her dad, but she can’t save her best friend. Why can’t you get basic facts right when they are a Youtube search away?

user, they have her dating Miles because they can't have her date peter parker because slott has a hate boner for him/editorial wants to continue to ruin the character.
Her dating anyone is an attempt to make her part of marvel comics and give her a relationship.
Something all female characters need to work.

J. Jalex Jones

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Jubilation Jamal/James Johnson.
Needs a first name that is embarassing so he uses his middle name.

She's a terrible idea propped up by normies, is this thread filled with normies? Is that what i'm fighting? Just a group of cucked normies?

She finds that her "best friend" is an obstacle to overcome and forgotten, how sweet

user, you think the raimi spiderman moies popularized "with great power comes great responsibility" line.

>I don't fucking care what you disagree with.
Into the spiderverse miles is a cheap unfun knock off of static shock.
Trying to compare shit to gold is fucking impossible user.
>user, there are no spidermans under the age 60 who gives a single solitary sideways fuck about gwen stacey in comics or in movies or the cartoons. She's nothing.
Spectacular Spiderman did give a shit, and she was fucking best girl in that series who lusted after Peters dick, too bad the 3rd season isn't going to happen.
>Bringing her back as a new spiderwoman enticed no one. IF it wasn't for the costume and the goddamn I'd sink all nine inches into her thicc body they gave her, she'd be a one off character.
Her costume was pretty god and she was hot, but that is fair.
>Current ms.marvel is a fucking 4/10 user. She's cute in a kid sister little way. Nothing more nothing less. Get some standards.
Some art of her is pretty damn good, shame the character is so fucking shit.
>You don't read modern comics do you.
In all honestly, I tried a few but only a few was worth reading desu. Like the immortal Hulk, and some elseworld stories like that post apocalypse batman story. But no and that isn't for lack of looking and trying either.
>user, I honestly don't care about spider gwen or yet another shitty spiderman knock off universe. I got my fill with spiderman 2099 and slott basically killed the last fucks I had to give
That's completely fair, my point was that it could have been good, but then again so could have most shit things desu.
>Going to try to pull that vaguely legal "queer" girl with the side cut from that app.
Nah I hate that hair style on chicks, my thing is long free flowing hair.

Nah, I'll stick with her because she gets no love, so I have an waifu that isn't claimed by anyone because I am a twat like that.

Normies don't even know who this bitch is.
They know NO version of gwen stacey and don't care.

It's creepy ass middle aged white guys who grew up with spiderman during the FIVE YEARS where she was alive and a prominent part of spidermans life and other peole who have a thing for "aryan" white chicks. That's it.

No one else cares.
No one really gives a fuck about the green goblin either.

>Miles is a cuk analogy
>why?
>he is black
Jesuchrist , why do you even care about spidergwen? she is a literal who from another universe.

You want a true cuckstory? try Reeds/Sus/Namor

> is that what i’m fighting

Sorry, i cant help that you’re stupid

I only care about the porn of spider Gwen, Miles literally has nothing I give a fuck about and yet he is the one who is pushed hardest because fuck this gay earth.

>other peole who have a thing for "aryan" white chicks. That's it.
The fuck is wrong with blond lovers cuntbag? I maybe a redhead lover, but I can understand the love for blonds.

>She finds that her "best friend"
Why is best friend in quotations? It’s an alternate universe where they weren’t dating.
>is an obstacle to overcome and forgotten
Where does she forget him?

Jesus Christ, it wasn't that fucking good. I saw it, it was alright. I am so tired of every basedboy under the sun saying that it was incredible and amazing. It had cool animation and a neat premise. That's it. Literally every other aspect of it is completely by-the-books, uninspired Hollywood shlock. 6/10.
So is it because other people say it's good? Is it just mindless comformity? Are they saying it to fit in? What makes normies shit their pants over this movie?

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It was incredible, and amazing.

>Trying to compare shit to gold is fucking impossible user.
He's static lite.
Deal.

>Spectacular Spiderman did give a shit, and she was fucking best girl in that series who lusted after Peters dick, too bad the 3rd season isn't going to happen.
user, that wasn't gwen stacey.
That was just a random nice girl next door with her name.

>Her costume was pretty god and she was hot, but that is fair.
Yeah. Also forgot Marvel relentlessly pushing her and paying the press to push her. Just like gwenpool.

>Some art of her is pretty damn good, shame the character is so fucking shit.
Some art of the original Callysto is hot. But 99.9% of her art is of her looking assugly.
I stand by my post.

>In all honestly, I tried a few but only a few was worth reading desu. Like the immortal Hulk, and some elseworld stories like that post apocalypse batman story. But no and that isn't for lack of looking and trying either.
I see.

>That's completely fair, my point was that it could have been good, but then again so could have most shit things desu.
Then you have no point.

>Nah I hate that hair style on chicks, my thing is long free flowing hair
Yeah, but sidecut equals can sink all nine into her and pound her out all night. And she'll love me for it BECAUSE I'm hurting her.

STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP

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Fucked if I know, the only thing I liked was the animation, and yet normal fags lost their fucking minds over it. Is media so fucking bad that something that is pretty Okay is universally called a master-peace?

I don't want to see another origin story again for any of their characters. I don't need to see Black Cat's Origin Story, she should already exist in that universe. Basically do what the game did or do what they're doing with Black Widow by telling her Origin by having her confront something from her past.

Do you think I'm spitting on people who like blonde blue eyed chicks or something?

What are you doing?

>do what the game did
You mean do what the 90's cartoon did?

>He's static lite. Deal.
No fuck you.
>user, that wasn't gwen stacey.That was just a random nice girl next door with her name.
That was literally her name.
>Some art of the original Callysto is hot. But 99.9% of her art is of her looking assugly. I stand by my post.
That's fair.
>Then you have no point.
I just wanted them to explore lizard Parker damn it.
>Yeah, but sidecut equals can sink all nine into her and pound her out all night. And she'll love me for it BECAUSE I'm hurting her.
True, despite my hatred for it, it kinda works on making her into a hate fuck.

youtube.com/watch?v=-euUGPQZoHw
This entire scene , fucking ACE

Also hoodie+sneakers is a beautiful combo
I was expecting a shitty movie , got one of my favorite animated movies EVER

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Fucking seemed like asshole.

>I was expecting a shitty movie , got one of my favorite animated movies EVER
It was decent at best, go out and watch some fucking animated kino for fucksake you goddamn normal fag.

Want Lord and Miller to do Superior Foes.

> i didnt like it so it must be garbage

I didn't even say it was fucking garbage, decent at best you fucking illiterate fuck, I was pointing out that your fucking reaction to it is fucking normal fag tier.

It's interesting how they made Aunt May look exactly like Lily Tomlin for some reason.

>A plot thread from the original script that was cut for time but a lot of that thread bubbles throughout the film.
>Miles being the first friend Gwen had since she shut herself off. Gwen being the first person to acknowledge Miles as Spider-man. The little rub Gwen gives to the top of Miles thumb before she jumps back to her universe
>The fact of the "friend-zoning" is more due to the fact that one of them will die if they stay together rather than a lack of mutual attraction
>Literally the only thing that is currently known for sure about ITSV 2 is that it is going to address the relationship between Gwen and Miles

Come on user. If audiences are more surprised by the fact that your two protagonist DON'T kiss during their farewell scene, you know you've struck relationship gold. What more do you need?

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> REEEEE

pfft fag

Bringing up her name to and audience who neither knows her or cares does nothing except scratch the itch of people who dont care.

>>Some art of the original Callysto is hot. But 99.9% of her art is of her looking assugly. I stand by my post. . That's fair.
Then we agree

>>Then you have no point.
>I just wanted them to explore lizard Parker damn it.
Gwen stacey is not a big enough character for that to be possible. They already pushed the strong woman angle with her. They push any harder and they'll have a rey/cap marvel situation.
Also, Miles was pushed as her BF or friend who occasionally fucks her against the wall because side cut can either be full dyke mode or full skank that will fuck anything mode they went with nice girl who's a wannabe social hard girl and hooked her up with miles. As a way to help grow her personality. Not his. The relationship brings nothing to the table for the cheap static shock knock off called miles morales

>>Yeah, but sidecut equals can sink all nine into her and pound her out all night. And she'll love me for it BECAUSE I'm hurting her.
>True, despite my hatred for it, it kinda works on making her into a hate fuck.
I know right.
Hatefuck her into the ground and make her call me Daddy, slowly fuck her while she curls up sobs and kiss her gently. Breaking and taming her completely.

Shipping is cancer, fuck off if you want to do that shit.

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Fuck I love Spider-Gwen so much, I am glad we are getting a movie about her.

>"Oh muh gawd guys! Like I watched that new spider-verse movie, and like I expected to go into it hating it, but it was like the THE BEST THING EVER!!!"
At least I didn't sound like this you faglord.

Biggest favor Spider-verse did for Miles was turning him from a legacy character to a what-if? character. Big difference between:

>Miles Morales becomes Spider-Man after Peter Parker dies,

and,

>Miles Morales is Spider-Man from a universe where Peter-Parker died.

Why are you such a cuck?

I don't know user, why are you such fag?

It should be mentioned that the word "Aryan" refers to people from India and only retards like Hitler use it to refer to blonde haired blue eyed people.

Dooood why’d you spoil the joke?

>Then we agree
I suppose we do.
>Gwen stacey is not a big enough character for that to be possible. They already pushed the strong woman angle with her. They push any harder and they'll have a rey/cap marvel situation.
Which is pretty damn sad in all honestly, lizard Pete could have been fun.
>Also, Miles was pushed as her BF or friend who occasionally fucks her against the wall because side cut can either be full dyke mode or full skank that will fuck anything mode they went with nice girl who's a wannabe social hard girl and hooked her up with miles.
A little bitch like him would never be able to handle a woman like her, he is too pussy shit to ever even fuck her, she needs a real man to break her in.
>The relationship brings nothing to the table for the cheap static shock knock off called miles morales
Miles wishes he was as outgoing and interesting as Virgil.
>I know right. Hatefuck her into the ground and make her call me Daddy, slowly fuck her while she curls up sobs and kiss her gently. Breaking and taming her completely.
Hatefucking is normally a good way to deal with someone you hate yet find hot as fuck at the same time, it's fucking satisfying.

It just pisses me off because I love the blonde hair blue eye combo and it makes me furious when people describe it as "Aryan."

As a woman, I loved this movie.

Sauce?

they announced a new writer and director one of them is from avatar but I don't remember which one

>more great stuff
>like ITSV
What did he mean by this?

Which Avatar?

Cause Fox wasn't as stupid as Sony, that's why they can pop out some good X-Flicks solo sometime.

For w/e reason the heads at Sony want SM films to be "their" success so they gotta put in all their ideas cause they think they know what's best.