THE FALCON & THE WINTER SOLDIER D23 Poster

>Now wheres Nuke

Already wasted.

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Well yes, he's taking the "role" of Captain America just not the tittle. Hence the plot that's gonna be centered around the Government/public not really accepting him in that specific role and the rise of US Agent.

But speaking of US Agent, his outfit was apparently shown off as well. Anyone have pics?

As if Netflix matters anymore (or ever did).

>But speaking of US Agent, his outfit was apparently shown off as well. Anyone have pics?

Pretty sure they only showed off Red Guardian's costume.

>we're getting movie versions of Red Guardian and US Agent in the same year
What a time to be alive.

Bucky is hot again, thank God.

lol it's gonna bomb

Seeing "Marvel Studios" attached to a Moon Knight logo in an official context is also pretty surreal.

IT'S HIS TURN

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Ep 1.

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>Black Knight in 2020

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Redpill me on USAgent.

What If Cap actually was a jingoist military asshole

It's like me with She-Hulk. I can't believe I'm gonna see one of my biggest heroes/inspirations on the screen. Sad I'm not playing her, but still looking forward to it.

Never thought I'd see because of the right issue with universal. (Does this mean Namor could have a series?)

Now I can't make greasy hair jokes anymore about Bucky.

Sounds based.

Thank you. So, if Steve had the personality of Guy, or is he worse than that? No Heart of gold at all?

A bit of Red Guardian

I get why he looks like a palette swap of Cap but I don't love it

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Not sure I like that suit for Bucky.

From what i've seen, John Walker is at his core a decent person, but is definitely much more hardline than Cap, to the point where acts like an asshole a lot.

Guy is a pretty close parallel yeah.

I've not read a huge amount of stuff with him tho

>Finally put red and white on Falcon's suit
Bout damn time

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I wondet why they chose to give sam the shield/responsibilities of Captain america but maintain his identity as falcon.
Is this because of Mackies desire to stay as falcon? It's kind of weird because you think they'd want him to become Cap for the sake of marketing shit and it's what endgame implied.

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That's actually pretty neat and exactly what I wanted from the character in the comics. Falcon being Captain America makes no sense but that doesn't mean he can't wield the shield and have a patriotic themed costume.

I hope Bucky tries to take on the mantle sometime during the series and they realize you just can't have another Steve Rogers.

>Th-this time the shows are really going to matter to the movies!

He wont become cap over night. Being handed a shield doesn't make you captain america. I wouldn't start dressing up as my (probably by now) dead friend. He'll reject it until a bunch of jackasses like US Agent show up to assume the mantle.

Just give me Captain Britain too while at it.

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? Strange 2 is already confirmed as a direct sequel to Wandas show.

He'll become Cap proper in the finale, and then they can market new Cap movies with him in the mantle.

>Red Guardian as a huge communist beard

Nice.

wanda vision is apparently a direct setup to Doctor Strange 2, so yeah.

Marvel Studios already got Namor back.

But they've talked about Falcon staying as Falcon while wearing the cap costume and shield. So they're basically saying he's cap in everything but name in the MCU

here it is

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WandaVision poster

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I hate you.

>that shadow

Her name is Captain Carter.

>Captain Carter
>not Captain Britain
I would like to take the opportunity to say fuck the MCU

it's weird how true that pic was

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People would be complaining if she WAS called Captain Britain because it's not Brian.

what the hell
a marvel property with a good poster?

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Give me Earth-13's Peter Parker Captain Universe, played by Jake Gyllenhaal

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Im so paranoid I’m worried it’s Wanda in costume with the tiara, has to be Cthon tho

>short hair
into the trash it goes

This seems most likely. Have this show be the setup for FalCap but for the casual moviegoer the next time they see him he'll already be wearing the stars and stripes.

How is Sam going to be Captain America anyway? What he's going to do with the shield.

This kind of legacy is so fucking dumb.

Bucky put his shit together and finally got an haircut
Nice Falcon's design.

>Clean shaven Bucky
Japanese fangirls are not going to like this

Difference is these ones are actually produced by Marvel studios and Kevin Feige, not Marvel TV and under the helm of jeph Loeb. I'm sure it's for the best. #StillpisshowLoebbutcheredIronFist

When? Aren't his rights still complicated?

>50s housewife Liz Olsen

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Hellow, where are the Loki poster

What pic?

So, what are they going to do with the rest of normies who don't even know they are making Marvel shows? Will they recut them for a limited theater release?

tfw they're going to share the shield

Making Falcon Cap for awhile was understandable for me because Cap always hands down the shield and we all knew it was never permanent. I have no issue with Falcon holding the shield. It would be cool if his new character name being FalconXCaptain America was like “The American Eagle” or something. I can’t wait for USAgent. His fight with Nuke and the whole Nuke saga could be great. Caville would be a good USAgent or someone who’s blonde.

Captain Britain is based.

It’s like they want us to pop boners watching it. Wanda is the best girl.

don't have it but the one that made fun of the fact how most Marvel costumes has this pattern on the chest

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>implying it won’t just be that he finally chooses to take the mantle in full at the end of the series
Come on guys, I thought you guys would know better.

>Just give me Captain Britain too while at it.
He was named dropped in Endgame so we might see him one day.

GRIAL-KUN!

He was?

Just The Eagle would be a fine name.

When Captain America was in Peggy's office looking at her through the blinds, Peggy is told by her colleague that they lost contact with Braddock.

Aw, I thought the high budgets would lead to these shows having high production values. That Bucky costume is so plain and boring looking.

>Sam the Eagle

I understood that reference

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Have you seen the Eternals costumes? Honestly, they look just as bland.

Why is falcon, captain america, again?

Steve went back in time to peg Peggy so now he's a retired old dude. Bucky doesnt want it, so Sam is the most logical choice to pass the shield to

>Red Guardian
Is Peggy Carter Captain Britain now?

Bucky is the one with connection to Cap and who has actual super strength and speed. The shield is wasted on Falcon and Cap snubbed his BFF Bucky by giving the shield to diversity hire Falcon instead.

After watching Overlord, I can see him as US Agent.

He’s great in Lodge 49

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Bucky probably just wants a quiet life in Wakanda or wherever, unlike Falcon who has been an active Avenger for years.

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>As if anything other than Daredevil matters
FTFY

I like the Ultimates style MCU Falcon way more than disco faggot comics Falcon, and Stan showed surprising charisma and range in I, Tonya; but this looks like the shittiest AoS/Arrow made-for-TV capeshit out of all the Disney+ shows. A great Zemo can salvage this show, but it's beyond saving.

Jesus Christ, they’re going FOX on us.

His character development was so ass backwards.

That Taskmaster mask is so awful, what the fuck.

The Eagle moniker is already taken by a Cap trained Harley ridin injun, way cooler than Falcon too.

It's easier for movement

I'm so pissed off because now I can't unsee it, and it's ruined the costumes for me.

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He is getting the same arc as Peter in Far from Home, many expecting him to take a legacy role but in the end claiming to be his own thing

Based Blue Lionchad
Golden deer are bros, but edelcucks are smelly

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Ah. I guess it's part of the whole tacticool trend of the mcu.

Better shave the beard and cut his hair.

I fucking called it! I knew they were going to make people subscribe to D+ in order to get the full MCU story!!

Is Walker that much of a jingoist? There was that one story he was protecting illegal aliens that were getting murdered.

Its because this ones bound to the best of the MCU

Does Disney never learn? This multimedia bullshit doesn't work in the modern age. They tried this with star wars trying to tie the books and Resistance show in with the films and no one cared

Idiot, Kevin Fiege is directly involved this time and he's confirmed the shows will lead into the movies

People will watch them if they're good. And if it succeeds, they've revolutionize the film industry yet again.

I think they are probably saving the transition to Cap for a movie or Falcon becomes Cap in the end of the show when he realizes that if he doesn't take up the mantle like Steve wanted, someone else that might sully what Cap stands for will.

It will not be so different than The Winter Soldier ties into Age of Ultron or Ragnarok having a direct tie to Infinity War, dumbass

At this point people care more about marvel than star wars lore-wise

Because Captain Britain is another character from another Marvel property that's unrelated to Super Soldiers. Also Captain Carter is a play on Agent Carter.

>Sticking the guy with the most boring look and outfit in front of Sam's new costume

You fucking dumbasses. Also Bucky looked better as a hobo.

Because in the star wars tie-ins fucking nothing happened, meanwhile the Marvel stuff has something happening most of the time.

Imagine him as peter quill in guardians 2 versus his own father

What are the odds they go with this look for U.S. Agent?

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Nuke is already dead. He got killed on Jessica Jones

Yes, but Bucky doesn’t want it. Even in the comics he didn’t want it, he just didn’t want anybody who would be chosen by Tony to have it either so he reluctantly took it. There is no scenario in the movies where Bucky will be forced to take it, so he isn’t. As much of a BuckyCap fan as I am, i do only see that Sam is the only natural successor in the movies.

>Cap trained Harley ridin injun
Post pics

He’s more of a hard liner, I would even say if Cap is a Constitutionalist/Libertarian then USAgent is a Neocon. But both of them are Chads.

Sam has always been the logical choice and I say this as someone who liked BuckyCap. Bucky never wanted to be Cap, not even in the comics. He only takes it because Tony convinces him that if it's not him it's going to be someone else. When Steve comes back he even tries giving him the shield back but Steve tells him to keep it. Then when he was killed in Fear Itself he used that as an excuse to stop.

Bucky in the movies doesn't even want to be a fighter, he just wants to lay back and chill.

Forgot my pic too, Sam being Cap even precedes Remender.

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This. I’ll take the Winter soldier look with the mask and black leather anyday.

Captain Universe Spider-Man 2099 crossover when?

49/51, honestly. MCU designers tend not to repurpose unused concepts even if they deserve to be used. That said, it's too good an opportunity to pass up, and they'd be crazy not to go with something extremely similar.

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Needs the Star. Can’t have it without the stripes and star. Also the blue around the shield is key for differentiation and individuality. You can maybe substitute the white stripes for gray or silver.

>implying anyone watched Jessica Jones
>implying that Netflix marvel is canon
Fuck that give us back Nuke and make the Punisher not Bernthal

I hate Wanda but even I have to admit this is encouraging.

I hate it but patterns help tracking for CGI without needing full mocap.

it's a streaming Series

Does anyone honestly give a fuck about either one of them?...

Cap is a New Deal democrat.

>I hate Wanda
Carolfags are the most petty and jealous

So a socialist? Because FDR was a socialist.

fujos give a fuck about bucky I guess.

Falcon has way too many gimmicks on him now. he has Cap's shield, his wings which can do a plethora of things. it's too much.

DON'T TEASE ME user. I'VE BEEN HURT BEFORE

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Don't forget his Redwing drone

There's a whole scene of him just completely bodying Bullseye

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Swing and miss with that ad hominem, I don't like Carol either.

I mean it's accurate to the comics, like his telepathic connection to birds primarily used with Redwing who is also a vampire.

Neocons are not really conservatives, they are just globalists with a different label, hardly any different from the DNC establishment.

He's controlled whole flocks of birds in recent years though

I'm guessing that will be him by the end
I'll be down for an action series starring Sam and Bucky

This is exactly what I wanted
Some Wanda mental-breakdown shit that preludes a House of M movie/series

The character was basically created to say "just because someone has conservative ideals doesn't mean they're a bad person".
There's a whole arc about how since he supports things like militias and "traditional values", it often puts him on the same side as literal white supremacists and deranged survivalists, that he has to denounce.

He gave Bucky the shield before and he gave it back you fucking casual dumbfuck

>"just because someone has conservative ideals doesn't mean they're a bad person".
The main issue is that most people don't live their "conservative ideals" and instead just try to impress them upon the proles. "Do as I say, not as I do".
IRL at least, I cannot speak to the actions of fictional comic characters.

The character was created to show how neurotic and unpatriotic reactionary middle class conservatives are. He later became an anti-hero supporting character, he's always being manipulated by some government agency, he's always a stupid dick, stuck in his ways and other actual heroes have to clean his pig headed mess, he's not a loveable sled aware idiot like Guy.

I'm just saying what the point of the comic was, not that I agree with it.
Gruenwald's run was all about how Cap represented only the central, basic idea of the American way that lies underneath all the politics and moral differences. That everyone should have a voice.
It was a noble idea, but I think that theme hasn't aged very well.

At first he was definitely a negative character and basically a villain meant to be the counterpoint of Flag-Smasher. But I think throughout his time as Cap, he grew to understand people more and see the dark side of his beliefs. And I mean, it was a necessity to make him less retarded and irritating, because he was now a central character splitting pages with Steve.

Fuck. I thought the same exact thing when I saw it,and it ruined me also.

yea

He gonna be Captain Falcon in the show's finale.

Because skulls are banned in China, that's why

Then go the UDON route, yeesh.

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They literally had Red Skull and Spider-Man Far From Home Iron Man illusion scene.

as in actual skeletons. Taskmaster is just a skeleton skull wearing a hood

Red skull is just a face painted red

Didn't stop Disney's Mexican Skeletons.

>biggest heroes/inspirations
Desu I’m flat out amazed She-Hulk is an inspiration to someone. I’m not even judging you or saying you’re wrong to, it simply never occurred to me someone would see her as anything but fanservice. Especially on this site.

Like everyone else said, Bucky never wanted it.
Also, who is the most logical choice to represent America on the superhero stage, the decorated modern soldier or the one who everyone now knows was a brainwashed assassin for decades?

It's just simple anatomy and design. t flows along the body's natural contours. Literally nothing to reee about.

I honestly can't believe the retard who made that image claims that none of those look like their comic counterparts.

yeah but it had 'muh family' and 'muh ancestors' which are valued China loves.

are they gay for eachother?

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks it looks like Bucky is about to have a cry

A battle for the shield, kind of thing, perhaps?

the absolute state of Marvel costume design

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>because Cap always hands down the shield
I honestly always preferred Cap fight scenes where he didn't use the shield, because it's so "video gamey". I don't understand what training could make cap capable of always perfectly bouncing his shield off of debris and enemies, not like the shield is magnetized to him by science or anything, he just always perfectly catches it.

Regardless people liked Steve Rogers, they pay to see Evans as Rogers, if disney tries to claim black cap sold a billion in tickets i will call bullshit on that

bucky looks like a numale

The Ant-Man suit is truly brilliant and has a perfect explanation for that shape

>become captain america
>spends all his fuckin time just protecting one single ghetto
pretty lazy ngl

MCU falcon doesn't have it in him to carry a marvel property as a headliner.

I really have low expectations of this.

But...she's supposed to be Captain America.

You have no right to genuinely expect better at this point, user.

user, all of the traditionally masculine were either neutered(hulk after avengers 1, thor starting in 2, bp because almost everything that makes him who he is comes from women, I can go on) or evil or dead.

But she’s not American.

I know, but they still made her Captain America in the comics.

It’s a slimming design that makes it look like muscle lines.

They did? In a what if? Or just an AU? I know there’s that black chick in the Spider-Gwen book but the only Peggy Cap that I’ve seen was in that mobile game.

It was in Captain America in one of those post-Hydra Cap stories. She's got this whole all female spy group going on that's apparently existed in secret forever since like the founding of America maybe longer it was so retarded I nope'd out of the storytime.

There’s no reason to hate Wanda

This. They’re just leftists with a hard on for war.

She stopped having a personality the moment that shitty faggot vision was created. As a matter of fact, this entire fucking movie is about ultron PRECISELY because Whedon wanted a reason to bring in Wanda and Vision and that whole thing.

Shit the thing between Hulk and BW never made any sense and still does't for fuck sake.

She was good as the jailbait horror movie villianess/evil witch from an 80's disney cartoon.

It’s just a lazy yellow man version of the ghost design from Ant-Man

Is this a movie or show?

Show, so far the confirmed MCU Disney+ shows are:
>Falcon and the WS (Fall 2020)
>Wandavision (Spring 2021)
>Loki (Spring 2021)
>What If? (Summer 2021)
>Hawkeye (Fall 2021)
>Ms. Marvel (TBA)
>Moon Knight (TBA)
>She-Hulk (TBA)

you can really tell they let a woman design this poster since no effort was spared in downplaying her breasts as much as possible

also imma be real with you, black widow in MCU has always been the weakest link aside from Hulk (who is box office cancer as a solo hero). she doesn't even get to die in an interesting way, she just goes through the same motions Thanos and Gamora already went through in the previous film.

Also, did anyone brief them on what they would need to do on Virmir to get the Stone? Were Hawkeye and BW sent to that stone for that specific reason? It's stupid, they even mention "why don't we just go back and get her from before she jumped since we don't need the stone anymore", also how did cap return the soul stone to virmir? and did he also have to stab that thing Rocket had into Jane Foster's ass again immediately after Rocket extracted the goo from her and left?

it feels like the costume designers for MCU are not even trying anymore, is it just me or do others get that impression as well?

Marvel has never replaced or recasted a character that was used in it's TV shows. Not once.

this is STILL one of the greatest things ellis has ever written. absolutely based

Depends on your terminology. If you go with democratising the means of production, FDR saved the private sector from a militant working class by having social democratic programs and taking some of the air out of their sails, as wel say.

nobody knows how thanos got the stone on vormir. red skull tells whomever travels there how to do it

retrieving the soul stone is a one way ticket. soul for a soul, that's why they can't use the gauntlet to get her, it's its own paradox

cap can easily return all the stones. he has the space stone, so that takes care of all the space stones. and he has the time stone/access to the ancient one who can easily help him return them

desu before Endgame came out i seriously thought they were going to go inside the soul stone to free everyones souls, like in the comics

>snubbed

Why do lorelets think their opinions matter? Actually watch the movies before commenting on them jackass

>hulk and bw made no sense
That's why they dropped it almost immediately the only time we saw it again was ragnarok and then it was mildly referred too as awkward

>the only time we saw it again was ragnarok
And Infinity War.

a lot of people did

the soul world with young gamora talking to thanos in infinity war, so a lot of people thought that'd happen too

>She stopped having a personality the moment that shitty faggot vision was created.
Imagine being this wrong

He was a socialist and some would say a benevolent dictator for what he tried to do be adding a second bill of rights, taking gold and silver away from people, putting us deeper into depression with his policies (thank God for the japs), and his Supreme Court packing to get his unconstitutional New Deal passed.

lmao this guy

I am opposed to him being Captain America solely because he never achieved the rank of Captain. Steve Rogers was promoted to Captain as a promotional gesture, but he was a military ranked Captain. Sam Wilson, in the MCU, retired form the air force never achieving this rank. He is, at best, Airman America. To call him Captain America would be akin to stolen valor.

The buckyxSteve shippers would lose what little sanity they still had if that happened.

Fucking autism

Bruh, the Captain is not just an empty part of the title. It’s significant. It means he outranks most military personnel, but also why he must follow orders from General Fury.

>socialist
No one knows what this word means anymore

Full poster

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Airman is a term that applies to all air Force members, like soldier for Army. We don't know his rank.

But you're just dog whistling, and we both know it.

Define it then

Lmao this non argument

Former Air Force here. Airman isn't just a generic term for all Air Force members, it's also a specific rank and the lowest enlisted tier (bottom four enlisted ranks). So Sam might just be Airman America.

I'm aware.
He might be, but that would be an awfully low rank for a secret pararescue unit flying classified missions in classified gear in restricted airspace. As I understand it, to even fly in the air Force you need a bachelor's degree and to complete officer's school, so he's definitely not airman as a rank.

I find the shadow interesting

>she actually seems to be wearing a costume in the shadow
huh

>red energy coming from the tv
>eveything black and white except stuff highlighted by the tv
>comic faithful costume in the shadows
Love it.

It's Scarlet Witch. Note the glowing oval in Visions shadow's forehead

They seriously need to fire the guy that keeps scribbling lines all over everything.

Hulk wasn't traditionally masculine, he was just a strong retard.

>wasn't traditionally masculine,
>he was just a strong retard.
One thing cancels the other

But they need those to match those stupid textures!

It's because it's meant to emulate a stronger upper body and thin waist, the typical superhero build

>Falcon finally in red and white
Mackie must be so happy. Hope Redwing returns

>there's another BLionchad that also likes Black Knight

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Oh shit, black knight in the MCU? What are the chances that they'll use his character to introduce captain Britain?

After seeing how good the effects were on the Mandalorian trailer, I'm a lot more confident about all this.

They did a fantastic job with Mysterio and Vulture. I have every right to hold expectations for this shit.

>After seeing how good the effects were on the Mandalorian trailer
The Phantom Menace trailer was awesome too, and look how it ended. Anything Star Wars should not be outright assumed

I was talking purely from an effects point of view. My biggest concern for the shows was that they'd skimp out on the special effects.

Well, they're running out of chances to sell anyone on Star Wars at this point

Why not?

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Isn't that some kind of character reggresion?

The poster was actually done by Andy Park, who does most of the Marvel stuff nowadays
Apart from that you're spot the fuck on - Endgame is pretty disappointing upon repeat viewing

>Endgame is pretty disappointing upon repeat viewing
It was since they killed IW Thanos, almost everything was just spiralling downwards