I haven’t read many Captain America comics so I might be wrong. But should Cap not be in much more like Homelander (His public persona)?
Captain America represents America itself and its values and should be able to unite generations. He should spend time amongst the people and show them he cares. But in the films Cap comes across as quiet and reserved. The public dont really care to much for him and vice versa. In end game it was as if no one gave a shit that he was effectively dead.
Steve Rodgers is a bigger and more complex persona than Captain America. I recommend reading Mark Gruenwald's run where government tried to fix the Steve problem
Cap was a pretty big deal during and post ww2. Coulson has his cards and everything. He became a legend.
>The public dont really care to much for him and vice versa
Do you even watch the movies?
>In end game it was as if no one gave a shit that he was effectively dead.
The movie literally ended right after we saw Old Steve.
Comic book Cap is a living symbol or truth, justice, and the American Way, and behind that is a complex man.
Movie Steve was a gaudy military asset who woke to a world that made him a symbol. He was a good man, but he never tried to live up to the legend or held his "status" in any particular regard. He's just a kid from Brooklyn
Sorry I meant Far from Home. That film is an epilogue to EG but it seems that outside of that joke montage no one gives a shit about the leader of the avengers, the one who helped keep order during the 5 year gap, while people like Tony fucked off to have a family and chill
fpbp. Cap is a propaganda product but Steve Rodgers is a person.
Presumably the world was just told (accurately) Cap retired. They're not going to have candle light vigils for a guy that's playing shuffle board in Florida.
You see very little of the public in the movies in general.
In the 80's Cap went across the country to connect more with the people because he felt the government/military no longer represented the people of America.
>You see very little of the public in the movies in general.
I honestly think that's beginning to be an issue. Maybe some of the D+ shows will delve into that more, especially Shulkie and Ms Marvel.
Thanks user, will read
Yes they certainly would. Look at the fuss being made over Spider-Man irl. All of the iron man wank should have been OG avengers wank
You're right about Captain America but Steve isn't necessarily like that
If Captain America is "My country, right or wrong", then Steve is "if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right"
Peopl can bitch about the spiderman movies all they want but I loved how much they showed the low-level, civilian experience in a super hero world.
The fucking PSAs kill me every time
With all the hype and constant wank about The Boys, it's making me avoid this shit like the plague. I honestly doubt Ennis' edgelord fantasy about superheroes is remotely good.
>I honestly doubt Ennis' edgelord fantasy about superheroes is remotely good.
It is.
>Homelander
I want to protect that smile
Hard pass, anyway. It doesn't give me a good vibe.
Then what the fuck are you doing here?
Talking about Captain America?
In a thread that's asking why he doesn't act like a character from a comic that you haven't read?
I was talking about the show. I've read the first issue and it was crap, and it's why I knew what it was about.
The show swerves away from some of Ennis's most juvenile tendencies, which is why you see so many threads of Ennisfags complaining about how much they changed.
I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that the changes fucked up major arcs and characters in the story.
The Show is considerably better than the comic, imo
The comic turns all superheroes into idiotic sociopathic hedonists.
Conversely, the show actually gives all of The Seven a lot more differentiation and depth. Homelander in particular is a lot smarter, a lot more self-driven (whereas he's basically just a corporate goon in the comics) and more interesting.
There's a great bit in the show where they are filming an interview with Homelander in his childhood home and he hams it up a ton
The show strips out all the Ennis edgelord bullshit and leaves the most solid ideas.
Well at least this sounds better than the few things I read. Maybe I'll give it a first episode try and see where that goes, then. It was sort of the same with Preacher, so it's likely the same here. Although I did drop Preacher on this last season...
Definitely do so. Homelander's actor, in particular, does a pretty stellar job. The performances in general are a notch above most super hero movies in fact
You mean like Hydra Cap?
I think the major beef is that it strips a lot of for the sake of giving more development to the Seven, while also taking away stuff from The Boys and doing no build-up whatsoever.
Admittedly I was just glancing over at all the edgy for the sake of edge stuff Ennis did throughout it, but the actual character arcs for The Boys was pretty greatly done actually.
I think the show gave everyone more development, not just the Seven.
Hughie and Butcher, you might have a point - but can you honestly tell me that comic MM, Frenchie or the Female EVER had more development than their show versions do after 1 season?
>I honestly doubt Ennis' edgelord fantasy about superheroes is remotely good.
It's a "love it or hate it" type of comic.
Show tones down a lot of the edginess the comic had if that makes it better for you.
It does for many people but it's one of those things where if you read the comic then you'll think "Aw, so does that mean they aren't going to that thing later on?".
Arcs and characters who were shit. Ennis' writing appeals to the Yea Forums target demographic: edgelord contrarians with the mind of a teenager, so of course the majority here is going to be upset by someone going through that shit and filtering out all the garbage that they like but normal people would think is fucking stupid.
That's a fair point, but I'd say that the issue is that the comic doesn't balance characterization well enough
You can say it doesnt give enough to The Boys themselves, but it's a more balanced spread at this point
I think Hughie will probably fall to the background a bit more in season 2 and Butcher will have a whole new development different from the one he had in the comic
>Arcs and characters who were shit
Butcher Baker Candlestick Maker is not shit by any stretch of the imagination, VA's backstory is not shit, the BN twist is not shit, Rebecca wasn't a shit character and was integral to Butcher's story and Stillwell wasn't a shit character and he was more representative of the actual bad guys in the story.
>Ennis' writing appeals to the Yea Forums target demographic: edgelord contrarians with the mind of a teenager, so of course the majority here is going to be upset by someone going through that shit and filtering out all the garbage that they like but normal people would think is fucking stupid.
Ennis' shit is completely over the top, that doesn't take away the shit that he did right. The show already screwed up a bunch of shit even if it did make the first couple of volumes a bit more polished.
Damn in only 1 post you used the word shit over 8 times pick something thats not a comic book every once in a while hahahaha
Maybe it's because the post I was replying to described it as shit.
Captain America is a medically altered super soldier. A living weapon. That is utterly terrifying when you put even the slightest bit of thought into it.
Add the "Rip Van Winkle" aspect of the character, and his leadership role in the Avengers, and you've got everything you need to know about the character.
You're overly romanticizing shit. It's just superhero comics, dude.
Are you gay
>Captain America is a medically altered super soldier. A living weapon. That is utterly terrifying when you put even the slightest bit of thought into it.
his ability was never that strong. Homelander is terrifying because he's superman without the self-control or moral.
A evil Captain American would still be a big threat but completely manageable by normal human, especially since super serum is sometime reproducible