Why is she shit on for the 2nd film? what should she have done since she wanted to stay in Slaughter Race?

Because her VA's a delightfully obnoxious piece of shite who masquerades as a comedian? Who promptly cried when she was targeted by the very same movement she helped popularise?

Wasn't her intention
Going Turbo is trying to take over another game.

Just talking about the film itself, don't give a shit about anything else

Well he was more of a father figure so the moral was you’ve gotta let your kids be their own person and that means they’re gonna move out someday

Ralph is anything but a father figure desu. He's literally a child in a big body

A millennial father figure

>Going Turbo is trying to take over another game.

>"Ralph, you're not going Turbo, are you?!"

what...? it means abandoning a game.

Are you sure? Ralph wanted a Medal, which would basically mean taking over another game because he'd have to win

Why is he shit on for the 1st film? what should he have done since he wanted to stay in Sugar Rush?

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He was taking over

Vanellope was invited in by who I assume was the lead of the game

Vanellope could have done both racing games. Sugar Rush during the day, Slaughter Race after arcade closing.

The medal wasn't even part of the discussion or introduced when the term Turbo was first mentioned.

Only after the selfish cunt someone got that code accepted as a coin. Until then it was just him chasing the medal.

He stole it from the other game and aside from causing that girl to lose everything else seemed fine with it.

Fair enough
I guess Turbo is abandoning your game. But at the same time, Vanellope was already removed from her game before, so her leaving it again isn't the biggest issue. The game went fine

Cept at the time of the game breaking she was the most popular character, and her code had been reset when she won the race.

So now it's broken again like Turbo did, only worse since at least he had the sense to reconfigure it so they her absence went unnoticed.

The problem is how sloppy the rules are. If they introduced the concept of modding for characters to secretly swap out of their dead games then nobody would complain but the ending of the first WiR took the crossover idea expectation that every player needs to be an idiot who can't look up a 30 year old game suddenly having unknown sprites/ levels introduced.

they were just best buddies, no father figure
Venellope is kind of a cunt Ralph was freaking out at the thought of losing her meanwhile she's as flippant as ever

Committing genocide is fine if you're female.

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>Cept at the time of the game breaking she was the most popular character
She was probably the most popular character before King Candy too, she's on the side of the arcade machine.
Also, King Candy was also removed from Sugar Rush, and given he always won, he was probably the most popular character too.

What did Turbo do to mask her absence from the human players? Nothing. Only in the game world he messed with stuff, in the real world nothing and the real world is what poses risk to the game world ending. Sugar Rush isn't broken because Vanellope went, to the end human players, all that happened was Vanellope was gone, King Candy came in, and now Vanellope is gone again. It's not broke.

It could just be a crossover event in world, no one did shit about King Candy suddenly being in Sugar Rush

I don't disagree with this, I'm just wondering why they're being shit on and what she did wrong

Both games will be fine, she didn't do what Turbo did

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You mean like she did with sugar rush?
Took it over.
Broke the game. She intentionally took over the controls from the user.
Left for another game.
How is that not Turbo. And keep in mind Turbo didn't have the internet.

Elsa approves!

Fair point, taking control from the user was pretty bad
But that's early in the film, I'm talking about the end and people shitting on that, though this does address one of the points as to why people shit on her

>that every player needs to be an idiot who can't look up a 30 year old game suddenly having unknown sprites/ levels introduced.
Oh and also, didn't the first film do exactly this by putting Bonus stages in Fix it Felix? It's not a new concept

>wir2 thread

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So Vanellope kind went Turbo and people don't like that, but what about the ending then? What's wrong with that?

You can call the movie shit but i don't see the point in calling threads for the movie shit. I don't see a single person singing its praises

/thread

A lot of the conflict in this film felt really forced, and this was one of those areas.

And I just don't buy that a videogame character that has been coded for a specific game would want to be part of a different game.

that deals with the themes but i'm thinking more story wise and stuff?

bump

Turbo film when?

anyone?

>alph wanted a Medal, which would basically mean taking over another game because he'd have to win
And Vanelope doesn't want to win?

In Slaughter Race? Not really, she's on the NPC side. Ralph had to be the main player to get a medal. Vanellope won't get medals in Slaughter Race

>1st movie
>Ralph was tired of being shit on all the time, being a villain, having to sleep in a garbage dump
>Fuck you, you'll never be more than this, learn to like it
>Villain is a character whose game was shut down, moved to another game, and altered the code to let himself stay there
>2nd movie
>Vanellope is the most popular character but she still wants more from her game
>moves to another game, the characters of that game alter the code to let her stay in their game with no problems

>Not really, she's on the NPC side.
Do we even see the player in Slaughter Race?

2 players, those kids trying to take shanks car

Huh. Guess you're right.
Man that movie is forgettable.

good movie HOLY SHIT I WOULD POUR $20 A NIGHT IN QUARTERS INTO HER GAME IF THE GAME WAS FUCKING HER UNTIL SHE BREAKS

Maybe silver sarahman was a bit of a pill in production of the last film?

>the characters of that game alter the code to let her stay in their game with no problems
Didn't that same thing happen in the first movie when Qbert moved to Fix it Felix

The sad part is that everyone seemed like alright people until she went YOLO. Although the ginger might have always planned to kill them.

Turbo did screw with the game for his own advantage, right? She screwed vanellope and all the oyher characrers to fit in. I think the slang term they are using is screwing a game up with malicious intent or outcome.

Turbo did do that, but I think "going Turbo" refers to abandoning your game

I just realised Vanellope basically did nothing to fix her game and Ralph did it all
She wasn't even in any of the videos. What an odd choice

>Ralph was a father figure
Absolutely not. Where do you get that from? The whole movie is explicitly about their friendship.

in fairness the film does at some points try to push this narrative and it makes no sense

I do not quite understand.

Just why is the ending considered bad from a story standpoint?

Despite the difference between their reasons and methods Turbo and Vanellope both did the same thing.

This contradicts the films a bit.

But the intentions were wildly different

I also more meant issues with the split between Vanellope and Ralph itself, as in issues with why they split them up or how it doesn't make sense or something

no rules are broken here though? explain

If anything this split will result in more Vanellope, not less

you can't just leave your game lol

To be clearer, why don't people like that Ralph/Vanelope split up

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Only watched season 1. What's the context here?

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Pretty top tier answer

>Vanellope joins Slaughter Race
>people soon notice this character from another game appearing
>whoever owns the Sugar Rush IP descends upon the Slaughter Race company and threatens to sue
>The company that runs Slaughter Race, who have no idea how the fuck Vanellope ended up in their game in the first place, promptly patch her out (effectively killing her)
What a happy ending.

Cuck queen of magic star shuts off all of magic and combines her home with earth leading to the collapse of the portal system (multerversal chaos) and the introduction of monsters to earth who have defiantly caused quite a few deaths, all this for a few thousand people and some important character

>Also what's peoples problem with the split up? why is it considered bad?

>Please explain basic human emotions to me

No.

Did Qberts game get fixed?

>First movie: Ralph starts completely isolated and alone and finds the first friend in 20 years who wants to be around him.
>Second movie: Ralph is finally happy and no longer lonely, but Vanelope wants to go Turbo. Ralph is shat on for trying to stop her and now he has to settle for an extreme long distance friendship and is back to mostly solitude.

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>Ralph wants more out of life
>Breaks the rules of his universe to get what he wants
>Has to learn to accept his place for the greater good

versus

>Vanellope wants more out of life
>Breaks the rules of her universe to get what she wants
>Loophole allows her to get what she wants >Ralph is once again the bad guy for wanting to protect his friend

Do you see the problem now?

For me it was just about how ungrateful she was. The entire movie is about Ralph saving her, and after he does it, she's like, "yeah, that's cool, I'mma go do my own thing now." I don't even care about the lore or whatever, but at least say thank you.

Wanting to survive makes sense. Doing so by manipulating everyone's memories and ruining someone's life is... Eh...

The internet didn't exist when fix it Felix cane out. It's ridiculous that everyone just accepted a 30 year old game getting an expansion.

My problem was that they spent the entire first film saying that abandoning your game and jumping to another is literally the worst thing a video game character can do and in the second, we are supposed to root for Venelope doing it because Ralph was a little too overprotective of his relationship with her? Sorry, but it's really lazy storytelling.

She did say thank you. She was crying while she said it and everything.

But they spent the entire first film villainizing Ralph for doing exactly that.

>wanted to stay in Slaughter Race
She spends the entire first film striving to become respected in her own game and abandoning one's game is seen as wrong. This twist just makes her seem ungrateful and unreliable.

>Declares herself the first Madam President of Sugar Rush in the first film.
>Quits her job, and walks out on everyone as soon as she starts getting board of her job, and her responsibilities
>Openly accepts that she really is just a princess, and even sings a princess song
>Jumps from one racer game to another in order to find fulfillment.
>Wonder Womans voice tells her she should stop thinking of others, and should just follow her heart and do what ever she wants
What did Disney mean by this?

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>muh Q-bert
Q-bert didn't have a cabinet to go back to, and being a bonus in one cabinet is a lot less conspicuous than an online game. Vanellope will get patched out in a week.

Writer was going through a divorce and instead of putting it aside and being a professional, they thought it was a perfect subject for a video game movie about best friends. Abandoning one's game is a moral failure that Ralph gets flak for but it's okay for a woman!

It means responsibility is a myth. The first movie is very much a "appreciate your job and friends" mindset.

I didn’t like the direction they took Ralph as a character. The feminist who took control of the film turned him into a bumbling dependent man child whereas before he was just a maligned, lonely man with nothing to lose looking to finally make a change for himself. It felt like a completely different character.

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It's a sad ending but you can't call it bad because of that

>first movie: game jumping is bad!
>second movie: game jumping is good!

There is logic in what he says.

>Vanellope has longer limbs and looks more... flexible

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Holy shit I agree so much and not enough people seem to make this point
They make him genuinely stupid in this film and just far too clingy for no real reason

Reminder that a hardcore feminist (Pamela Ribon) wrote Ralph 2.
>In November 2014, Pamela Ribon found a Barbie book from 2010 titled I Can be a Computer Engineer. She decried elements of the book where Barbie appeared to be reliant on male colleagues.

>Fast forward to 2018, and shes given the reins to the Wreck it Ralph sequel.
>She hates Disney Princesses
>Decides to voice the princess who started it all Snow White, and makes her talk/sing like a retarded air head in both the film, and trailer out of spite.
No wonder this film is a mess.

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The story is about growing. I wasn’t fond of the movie overall, but it’s moral is sound. People grow and change. Sometimes that takes you away from the people you care about in the present. But if you really care about someone, you want what makes them happy and you wouldn’t ask them to do or be less or suffer for your convenience. I think they did this poorly because they treated Ralph and Vanellope like best friends when obviously by appearances people assume Ralph as a mentor role, which was just not the case. Regardless of time or experience, they were peers and the movie treated them as such which is what I think was disconcerting. It’s natural for us to look to the person that has been around longer and assume they have the most wisdom/experience, and therefore will know the best course of action, but that is not always the case.
Ralph acted like his best friend at work was jumping ship and tried to sabotage her interview. Instead of supporting her choice in a more fulfilling role, he wanted her to wallow in mediocrity. By the end he realizes his selfishness, but again it could have been done smoother. The first movie was magic and felt amazing. When the climax happens between Ralph and Turbo, I still can connect and feel a respect for the character I’m watching. I just didn’t have this attachment in this movie.

Tl;dr: They made a sequel to capitalize as quickly as possible. No soul.

>but it’s moral is sound.
user....

She broke her own game, and not only did nothing to fix it, but went off to hang out with murderers and thieves because it was fun. They want you to ignore any sense of reponsibility because shes a child, but give her the "right to be independent" of an adult woman. Its retarded. And it completely spits on the first movie.

They set it up clearly you shouldn't hop games, at all, its what bad guys do, but then handwave why its okay for vanellope to do it. It felt so much like they had a movie script, didn't want to make some independent IP and just tailored wreck it ralph into it to run with the name.

I got the same feeling too, this movie just doesn't have the care or attention to detail that the first Wreck it Ralph did. Slaughter Race is such a generic world too, if you're gonna move her, why to such a generic world?

Q bert didn't have a game to go back to, but he still gamejumped which shows it is still possible. I don't know if he was added to the code like Vanellope was, but it seems like that's also doable and it wasn't looked at as too bad when qbert did it.

Vanellope's game, Sugar Rush can and has gone on without her. When King Candy took it over the first time, Vanellope was removed but the game still stayed up. When King Candy himself got removed, the game stayed up.

You mean Felix getting an expansion with Qbert joining? That's the same thing that happens with Vanellope joining Slaughter Race but people seem to take issue with that when it was also done in the 1st film

Vanellope jumping game is different because her game can go on without her as it has in the past

Fun fact. No female character in the film is ever directly criticized or belittled. Male characters get lots of criticism and have their appearance mocked.

See

I posted about it here It's just a forced ending for no reason other than to try and make it emotional and it also doesn't fit for a sequel

Is this why I felt like shit after watching the movie?

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So you didn't watch the movie

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They didn't make fun or her personality or physical appearance or shit on her tho. They just commented that it was hard to tell what she was saying due to her accent.

>"She's from another studio"
What's wrong with being from another studio, you facetious pig? Not everyone get to grew up in a big fancy studio like Disney. Why don't you take your studioiest beliefs elsewhere.

How can anyone dislike the Animated Award Winner for Best Feature Film of 2018?

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You noticed this as well I see.

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Is this real? What did win best animated film then? I'm really surprised they didn't just get it by default

Her code was changed. She was supposed to be a princess, but she was a homeless hoodlum. Slaughter race fit her character better.

Going Turbo refers to what he did to some other game, where he just showed up and whooped ass. What he did after had nothing to do with the phrase