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At least, I think I did it... I really think I've found out who Danger Mouse's girlfriend was! I'll explain everything in this thread!
I DID IT Yea Forums!
At least, I think I did it... I really think I've found out who Danger Mouse's girlfriend was! I'll explain everything in this thread!
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First off, let's look at the obvious stuff from "Statues". When Fifi was brought up, Danger Mouse exposed a softer, more insecure side that you don't get to see very often. He was genuinely embarrassed as evidenced by him clearing his throat, something people may do habitually when they're nervous or to cast doubt on whatever's been said, according to not only psychologists but also studies conducted by the FBI. It's also worth noting that people may clear their throats when they're being deceptive due to stress and/or anxiety since lying causes a temporary cognitive overload. What all this means is... Danger Mouse seems to have felt the need to be deceptive regarding his relationship with Fifi. This is reinforced when he tells the audience that Penfold's comment was "just a little joke", suggesting Fifi doesn't actually exist and that Penfold was being his usual ridiculous and silly self. We don't need to see Fifi to know that she does exist, because Danger Mouse's facial expression changes from being stern and tough to being tense and awkward while he's talking to the audience and his speech becomes less pronounced and more hesitant, as if he's trying to be strategic about what to say. But why?
The dirty-minded may look at the situation and think that Fifi is some sorta French mistress that DM doesn't want the children watching to know about since it's meant to be a kids' show. I don't agree, and y'know why? It's exactly that: A kids' show. As serious as he acts, Danger Mouse is still a cartoon character (his animated side is much more emphasised in the reboot) at the end of the day. There's no way he would involve himself in a risqué relationship, nevermind one that his assistant would know about and feel comfortable enough to poke fun at while they were on the air. So what's up with him? A couple of things.
One of Danger Mouse's primary traits is his self-admiration. He takes a lot of pride in not just himself and his achievements but also how others perceive him and his abilities. He craves admiration from others, even if he sometimes acts humble or modest about it. You could probably argue his egotism is really just repressed insecurities. Anyway, many episodes in the original and reboot describe how DM is the top agent in the Secret Service/Danger Agency, so that alone is a lot of expectations about his professionalism and bravery. Plus, just look at his agent name: Danger Mouse. He's suggested to be a fearless, tough, intrepid, danger-loving beacon of masculinity, and he lives up to those expectations pretty well. In S2E16 "There's Something About Scarlett" (in the reboot), he asserts that he knows how to impress girls - by being macho and heroic. Also, his view that women are mainly just damsels in distress is a very traditional one. All of this could explain why DM got so flustered by the mention of Fifi. He's not actually embarrassed about the relationship itself, he's embarrassed about how others will perceive him because of the relationship. He thinks being in love and being caring and having tender moments are displays of weakness, and he's worried about how that'll impact his reputation. The reason why Penfold knew about it is because him and DM are best friends and often banter and act quite informally around each other, not to mention that DM knows that Penfold heavily idolizes him no matter what (such as in S10E3 "There's a Penfold in my Suit" in the original) so he knows Penfold would never view him as weak for being in a loving relationship, whereas he'd worry about someone who's more of an acquaintance, colleague or in a higher position (especially Colonel K) doubting his abilities as a hero. His traditional views on masculinity prompted him to pretend Fifi isn't real, not because she's some kinda lewd mistress.
With that sorted out, I'll move onto Fifi herself. When Fifi was mentioned, Danger Mouse and Penfold were on their way to France, specifically Paris. This is a great clue because this actually tells us where Fifi lives, to an extent. Now let's look further; shortly after, they fly over a park called "Le Parc" and find a statue based on a fictional chef called "Monsieur Smaquing Lippes" who was the first person to serve frogs legs and lived from 1798 - 1874. Only a fool who doubts the writers' intelligence would assume that's the end of that, because Brian Cosgrove and his buddies were constantly referencing things and basing characters and backgrounds on real life people and places. Heck, many DM episode titles are puns that reference something, typically spy movies and novels. Now while there is a slight inaccuracy considering that frogs legs have been eaten as food by humans since 7596 BC, it turns out that there is a famous French chef called Marie-Antoine Carême who lived from 1784 - 1833. Hey look, the same century as the statue in the episode! Even the years are pretty close. If that's not enough for you, I can go even deeper than that! Marie-Antoine was an early practitioner of an elaborate style of cooking called "grande cuisine". This basically means "high art", so he was like a pretty posh cook that made really posh food for super posh people. I went as far as to read his books, which was a bit tricky considering they were French but I used online translators to help. Some of them are about architecture for some reason, but I found out he cooked during the French revolution.
You might already know that the French Revolution was a revolution in France from 1789 - 1799 and was when they basically killed off the monarchs and stuff. However, things didn't go as smoothly as Napoleon and friends had hoped. A lot of political drama happened and France wasn't doing so good. The working class were hungry (y'know, more than usual). You might've read that the French eat frogs legs due to some cheeky monks not wanting to go vegetarian. Peasants, who weren't getting much to eat, saw this and a trend began to develop. Flash forward slightly to 1822 and Marie-Antoine has just published his cook book "Le Maître d'hôtel français, ou Parallèle de la cuisine ancienne et moderne, considéré sous rapport de l'ordonnance des menus selon les quatre saisons". I'll translate the most important parts of that: "ancient and modern cuisine" and "under report of the order of the menus according to the four seasons". Ancient and modern cuisine, such as a food that was eaten by civilizations thousands of years before and has come back into fashion, like frogs legs? Four seasons could refer to seasoning but I think it refers to spring, summer, winter and autumn. The frogs that have their legs eaten are called (get ready for this) Pelophylax Esculentus, also known as the common water frog. They reproduce via hybridogenesis, which is like asexual reproduction. Meaning they don't necessarily need a mate, and they don't have a seasonal mating cycle as they can reproduce whenever they are ready. So they can be raised, killed, prepared and cooked throughout all four seasons, just like Marie-Antoine describes in his book. More evidence he cooked frogs legs! Why? Because he was a highly respected, well recognized chef for upper class French people, who had caught onto the trend and demanded Marie-Antoine to cook whatever everyone else was eating in France at the time for social acceptance or to flaunt their expensive chef of the high arts.
What does this boring French history lesson have to do with Danger Mouse? To answer that, let's look at the main guys behind the "Statues" episode: Brian Cosgrove (director), Angus Allan (story) and Brian Trueman (screenplay). Brian Cosgrove, along with being a director, animator and so much more, is actually a sculptor. While he mostly just did little stop motion things for a company called Stop Frame Productions (which was unfortunately shut down at some point), he also did professional sculptures of not only his own creations but of others too out of admiration and respect. Then we have Angus Allan, a comic strip writer who went to King's College when he was younger and later went on to work on many DM episodes. His creative output was described as "prolific", meaning he would work so hard and produce so much quality content. Then there's Brian Trueman, who's worked closely with Cosgrove for decades and narrated a lot of cartoons. Something these three guys have in common is that they are educated upper class, they are very skilled and they not only admire their own skills and achievements but they admire others' as well.
It could be possible that they, or at least Brian Cosgrove, knew about Marie-Antoine Carême and his contributions to not only French cuisine but the entire food world as a whole. He was an internationally renowned chef at his time who garnered deep respect and admiration from others for being so talented and amazing. And yet, he died at only 48 (most likely due to years of inhaling toxic fumes from those olden day stoves) and who remembers him? Did you know about him before reading this? I'll hold my hands up and say I didn't have a clue who this guy was before I started doing any of this research, even though there's a decent chance I've eaten something in my life that Marie-Antoine had practically pioneered. So what did those guys, or Cosgrove, do out of respect for this forgotten man? They put him in the show, but it had to be funny rather than educational since Danger Mouse was an action/comedy series, so they renamed him "Monsieur Smaquing Lippes". Or perhaps it was due to legal reasons rather than humour, like the whole "any relation to any person alive or dead is purely coincidental" movies have, which could also explain why the statue in the show doesn't look that much like him with the hat and facial hair. Why was Marie-Antoine made into a statue in the show? Because in real life, despite his many contributions to the world of cuisine, he never had his name immortalized. Sure it's on a grave forever, but it's in a gravesite that was built on an abandoned quarry. No one really ackowledges what he did. When we Brits want to commemorate someone, what do we do? We sculpt statues in their image and put them up in public places for everyone to admire!
So that's what they did in "Statues". He was a nicely sculpted statue placed in an open space for all to see, with his name written in large writing directly below. The reason why Allan waited until the end of the episode and then used Danger Mouse to clearly reveal why Monsieur was so significant is to hammer home his contribution to the food world so the audience remembers it: He was the first man to put frogs legs on the menu. While this isn't true in the real world, there is plenty of evidence to suggest one of Marie-Antoine's best dishes was frogs legs and that he cooked them using his mastery of the high arts in ways that other chefs wish they could. He was France's Gordan Ramsay, minus the swearing and yelling and add the invention of new cooking techniques. A famous, talented chef that Brian Cosgrove, a sculptor, knew about due to his great education. Marie-Antoine might as well had been the first guy to put frog legs on the menu, because he pioneered the dish with the higher class people. Had it just been peasants munching on frogs, the trend would've died when the country got wealthier again like how British Victorians used to drink a hot drink made of ground up orchid roots called saloop since unboiled water was so risky back then. When more people could afford/gain access to cleaner water, people stopped drinking saloop. Had Marie-Antoine not made frogs legs into such a delicacy, the French would've probably stopped eating frogs legs at some point as bigger and better food became more available.
So, with that all cleared up, we can presume that Monsieur Smaquing Lippes and Marie-Antoine Carême are the same person. If Penfold thought Danger Mouse was on his way to see Fifi when they were going to the statue's location, then that means Fifi must live near the statue. So, where was Marie-Antoine Carême buried in real life? Montmartre Cemetery, also known as "Cimitière du Nord". It makes sense that Monsieur would have been built near that area, since Cosgrove wanted to pay his respects properly. If you search for the cemetery's location, you'll get "20 Avenue Rachel, 75018 Paris, France". Hey look, Paris! Exactly where Danger Mouse and Penfold were going! So it's fair to say that Fifi lives at Avenue Rachel. I did consider the possibility that she might not be French and could have moved from another location to Paris, however Fifi is an inherently French name so it makes sense that she was born in France.
Now we need to find out what animal she is since, as much as DM loves danger, I doubt he'd be up for being with a human. This would be especially impractical considering how humans seemed to have vanished in the reboot, with the planet being replaced entirely by animal people. So knowing Fifi was born in and lives in France, all I have to do is find out what animals live in France. Not only this, but I also have to decipher what Danger Mouse would be into romantically. I'm also gonna clarify that I'm excluding domestic animals like cats and dogs right off the bat due to the genericness; Fifi is implied to be special to DM. You can find any breed of cat/dog anywhere in the world.
Animals native to France include: badgers, foxes, bats, hedgehogs, moles, dormice, otters, rats, rabbits, hares, mice, shrews, red squirrels, wild hamsters, brown bears, wolves, ibex, martens, chamois, beavers, lynx, polecats, weasels, boars, harbor seals, roe deers, alpine marmots, and marbled newts. I started to list birds native to France too, but upon watching S1E4 "Chicken Run" and S6E25 "Penfold BF" of the 1981 series and seeing his various negative experiences with birds and analyzing the "love/hate relationship" (there's no genuine romantic love, but I won't get into that right now) he has with Professor Squawkencluck in the reboot, I decided that Danger Mouse would not be interested in dating birds. Still, the list seems immense. Fear not, anons! I have my ways...
First off, let's take a look at where Fifi lives: Avenue Rachel. You still looking at it on Google Maps? See how there's hotels and tourist attractions everywhere? Plus, it's mostly streets and housing. The only noteworthy greenery comes from the Montmartre Cemetery and a small park north of Le Trianon (which I'd love to argue is the same "Le Parc" Danger Mouse and Penfold fly over in "Statues" but I'm guessing you're sick of hearing about that stuff at this point, haha!). What does this tell us? It's an urban area. So let's take a look at the list and begin process of elimination. Hares, rabbits, bats, hedgehogs, moles, dormice, weasels, polecats, otters, wild hamsters, brown bears, wolves, shrews, ibex, chamois, beavers, lynx, boars, harbor seals, roe deers, alpine marmots and marbled newts are gone due to them mainly living in rural areas and/or urban areas being scarce in terms of prey and territory and/or not wanting to interact with humans on a daily basis (but I guess in the case of bears, lynxes and wolves, humans probably wouldn't want to interact with them). Even if we're talking about anthropomorphic bears, lynxes and wolves, both shows clearly present how the animals retain characteristics related to their species while still being human-like.
There's so many examples that I probably couldn't list them all but I'll still show you a few. For example, in S7E1 "DM on the Orient Express", a character who looks like a beaver chatters his long buck teeth whenever he talks. Another example would be in S1E7 "Lord of the Bungle" where a snake character, who isn't just a feral snake and can actually talk and reason, eats Danger Mouse and Penfold whole like how an actual snake would eat rodents. An example from the reboot would be in S1E11 "The Return of Danger K" in which Bad Boy, a squirrel character, scampers up a tall building. There's also S2E31 "Daylight Savings Crime" where a bat character tries to create a permanent night due to being nocturnal. And, of course, Danger Mouse has a tendency to say "Eek!" when he's surprised or overwhelmed by something, like a mouse would. So since the animals still act like animals to a degree, it would be completely fair to eliminate rural animals who wouldn't be suited to urban life. I'm not saying it would be impossible for them to adjust, as exotic animal characters can be seen in London throughout the reboot. But it would be very, very unlikely. And I haven't even mentioned any potential beefs between species (such as cats and mice, which is subtly hinted at in S1E39 "The Cute Shall Inherit the Earth" in the reboot when Danger Mouse's distrust towards the cats is initially treated as irrational and malicious) which would reduce the chance of certain animals living in certain places.
So we're still left with: badger, fox, rat, red squirrel, marten or mouse. We've used our location card, so now we're down to analyzing DM's behaviour and speculating what his preferences would be. It's easy to instantly say "mouse" for obvious reasons, but let's calm down and think for a moment.
Let's start with the badger. Now if these animal people retain their species' traits, then it'd be fair to infer a badger would have aggressive, assertive and possessive tendencies. Some scientists have even observed sows (female badgers) in certain groups to be more dominant than the rest of the members. That's going to cause some problems right off the bat, because Danger Mouse is very headstrong and has a habit of taking the lead in practically any situation he ends up in, so it'd be unlikely that he'd be with someone who'd fight against his role as the dominant one. Plus, a badger girlfriend would not be ok with Danger Mouse constantly being away at HQ and doing missions, she'd want to keep track of him (which the canon Fifi clearly doesn't do since throughout all 10 seasons of the original she never so much as called him while he was at work) and would force him to live with her as she'd consider DM hers. It could be said that because Danger Mouse enjoys danger, he'd enjoy being with someone aggressive. But then we're back to that love/hate thing, which isn't right for DM given his hidden softer side. Not to mention the implications of harm in a relationship, which is never a good sign. Overall, a badger girlfriend would be too controlling and would they would clash far too much, making the relationship unstable and unhealthy. And so, I eliminate the badger.
Fox next. Foxes, particularly urban foxes, are relatively carefree. They have a habit of accepting food from humans, wandering and marking in territories that belong to our domesticated pets and screaming in areas they know are packed with humans. We may startle or scare them sometimes, but for the most part, foxes aren't really bothered. They don't often feel aggressive, stressed or threatened unless something is directly making them feel that way, like someone running towards them or trying to grab at them. When with other foxes they can be pretty vicious but generally, they're quite neutral.
Frankly, Danger Mouse would find this boring. In "There's Something About Scarlett", Danger Mouse says that girls are impressed by heroes and being saved. If he thinks this, then surely he wouldn't want to be with someone who isn't helpless and meek (to an extent). It's also worth mentioning that foxes have long, bushy tails that in real life they use for a variety of different things, and I'd imagine that an anthro fox would be particularly proud of her tail. Not only does that pride clash with Danger Mouse's, who often feels as though he always has to be the best (as evidenced by his desperate desire to win at everything and his denial towards losing in S1E27 "The Good, the Baaa and the Ugly" in the reboot), it might be awkward considering Danger Mouse has no tail. It's not obscured by his suit, because in S1E50 "Mouse Rise" (in the reboot), Danger Mouse is shown wearing nothing but a breechcloth made of leaves yet there's no tail. Like his eye, it could have been due to injury/disfigurement and so it would be painful to be with someone so vain about their tail. It's already hugely debatable that Danger Mouse is secretly extremely insecure, which would worsen this relationship as they'd often be at odds on account of their differences, both behaviourally and physically. Overall, a fox girlfriend would be too boring and rub salt in a wound (almost literally in a way), making the relationship have no spark or enjoyment. And so, I eliminate the fox.
So... A rat. Hmm. They're very intelligent, and considering Danger Mouse is really intelligent himself (he is an art connoisseur, he can fluently speak 34 different languages and according to The Danger Mouse Files he could walk and talk just hours after he was born, just to name a few of his many feats) it seems like they'd get on pretty well. It's not the same clash as Danger Mouse and a badger being just as dominant as each other because it's just a fact of life that intelligent people generally seek other intelligent people. Unless... They want to control someone, in which case they'd go for someone not as bright.
As intelligent as DM is, nu-DM is often lazily or poorly written and so makes stupid, easily avoidable mistakes or bad choices. Perhaps a rat/mouse relationship could have been successful in the 1981 series when DM was more strategic and prudent, but now that he's a lot more dumbed down, he's an easy target for manipulation. For example, in S1E40 "All 5 It" Danger Mouse was tasked with infiltrating a group led by Quark (a villain who only cares about exploiting suckers to make a quick buck). Danger Mouse thought he had the upper hand and had control of the situation (despite being so incompetent that his fake identity was literally called Manger Douse), but it turns out Quark knew everything from the beginning all along and Danger Mouse had been too distracted and egotistical to notice what was happening. An almost identical thing happened in S1E9 "Welcome to Danger World" in which Quark manipulates DM by preying on his naivety and ego to essentially take over the earth. One of nu-DM's most prevalent problems, which he even admits to having in S2E9 "I Believe in Danger Mouse", is how he doesn't really think before he speaks or acts. He often doesn't consider consequences and can't tell when someone is taking advantage of him, even when it directly negatively impacts him. An intelligent rat girlfriend would relentlessly manipulate, exploit and demean nu-DM, which causes multiple issues.
She'd be around more or he'd be at HQ less since she'd be subtly controlling him to do whatever she wanted by appealing to his ego and/or masculinity. Like, pretending to be pathetic to make him do things she can't be bothered to do, or exaggerating how much she misses him to get him to visit her and shower her with attention, which is ironic considering DM's usually portrayed as the attention hog. There's also the implications of a rat girlfriend too. Rats are generally thought of as sneaky, perhaps even evil, creatures that adapt to situations out of self-preservation. A rat would not date DM out of love, she would date him for perks. His bravery, his blind loyalty, his strength, his gadgets. And all of this isn't acknowledging the fact that Fifi is confirmed as DM's ex-girlfriend, not current. Plus nu-DM has done things that would be questionable if he was still in a relationship, such as allowing Squawk to flirt with him in S2E23 "The Scare Mouse Project" when he could've just told her that he already had a girlfriend (which also implies him and Fifi were over by this point, although it's not concrete proof). Overall, a rat girlfriend would be too selfish and the relationship would be secretly toxic since the connection would not be mutual, DM would almost definitely end up being used and even if he did catch on at some point, he seldom learns his lesson. Not to mention the possibility that DM and Fifi broke up before the reboot, so he wouldn't have had the blatant flaws of his newer self that allowed others to trick him so easily. And so, I eliminate the rat.
Red squirrel's a bit of a funny one. I could picture Fifi being a red squirrel, given their jittery and easily frightened nature. There is the tail issue that I brought up with the fox girlfriend, but I don't think squirrels have that focus on their tails. They only seem to make use of them when they're scared, but it's more of a startled or cautionary flick than anything flamboyant or proud. As an anthro, this might actually be a good sign for Danger Mouse since it's a clear indication of when he would need to rescue or comfort his damsel. There's also the submissiveness, which would allow DM to take the lead which he'd love. Everything seems pretty perfect until you realize that squirrels are perhaps... too apprehensive. Danger Mouse might enjoy taking care of her until she starts interfering with his job. The constant need for support, the incessant desire for protection, like Penfold but amplified by a million. In S2E38 "A Fear to Remember" (in the reboot), it's revealed that Danger Mouse is terrified for Penfold's safety and that his worst fear is something terrible happening to him. DM criticizes Penfold's behaviour in the episode whenever it needlessly puts him in danger. If he feels that way about his best friend, imagine how he'd feel about someone he truly loved. It's also worth noting that in S1E7 "The World Wide Spider" (in the reboot), Penfold fearfully jumps into DM's arms and DM somewhat sternly reminds him they agreed that he wouldn't do that anymore. So saving someone can get old for DM, especially if they're constantly fretting about nothing.
Let's talk about another thing with squirrels: The fact that they are technically considered pests. The British Pest Control Association describes how squirrels have a habit of stripping bark off trees which sometimes results in the tree dying, as well as digging up gardens to hide food and damaging roof tiles. While anthro squirrels probably wouldn't act as feral as this, there are some nods to the inconvenient behaviour of nuisance squirrels through the character of Bad Boy (although he is uncharacteristically confident but that could be testosterone due to him being male or genetic enhancement as seen as in S2E12 "Quantum of Rudeness"). Not only would she be interrupting Danger Mouse while he's got more important things on his plate, y'know like saving the world, she'd most likely act passive-aggressive as she starts taking his protection for granted and she'd become too dependent on DM, leaving him to sort out any problems she has. Overall, a squirrel girlfriend would be too much of an inconvenience and Danger Mouse would eventually grow tired of saving her, especially if most of the time she was never in any real danger in the first place and she did it out of jittery dependency. And so, I eliminate the squirrel.
What actually is a marten? You ever heard of it? Maybe you have. I've never heard of it until now. They're basically little fluffy weasels with large paws and the face of a fox. You might think that's kinda cute, but they've been described in nature documentaries as "nature's most adorable assassins" due to being elusive, clever and brutal killers. A farmer once reported that a pine marten had bored a hole in a lamb's neck on his farm.
You might think that a secret agent and an assassin would make a fantastic duo; I mean just think of all the exciting action-packed scenarios that could come out of that combination! It also makes me consider something I hadn't considered before - could Fifi have been an agent too? I said "have been" instead of "be" since there's no way she's still on the team anymore, especially considering nu-DM fleshes out the Danger Agency a lot more yet there's not been a peep about Fifi's existence at all. But the thing is, agents like Danger Mouse who work in the Secret Service and assassins don't usually work side-by-side. In fact, they actually tend to work against each other. Just look at that whole situation where the Secret Service managed to stop an assassination plot against Donald Trump. It could be like one of those Romeo and Juliet things where the love isn't meant to be or something, but surely that would make the relationship more meaningful and romantic so they wouldn't really want to split up. You could say that Danger Mouse's desire to keep the relationship a secret in "Statues" is due to him worrying that the Secret Service would find out about his relationship with the assassin and punish him. But you'd think that Penfold, a loyal sidekick, wouldn't want his best friend to face disciplinary action or even termination. He even tells the audience that he'll tell us about it sometime (he never does though), which again doesn't make sense because why would he be so smug about risking Danger Mouse's job and reputation? Looks like a marten girlfriend just couldn't happen given the circumstances. So, I eliminate the marten.
Aw man. I think my thread's gonna die.
Ah well, I'll keep going. Mouse... Back to where we were shortly after I cut the list in half, huh? I didn't think I'd have to go through the entire list. But a mouse is actually looking like the most likely possibility here. Still, let's analyze before we jump to any conclusions. Mice are pretty similar to rats but are smaller, and some could say more innocent due to their cuter and meeker appearance with big soft ears, big eyes, thin pink tail and triangular snout in comparison to rats with small hairless ears, small eyes, a scaly tail and blunt snout. Mice are also pretty clever creatures. Other than their quick reproductive cycle, lab mice are used because of their ability to understand and learn. It might seem like we're going to be delving back into the problems we had with the rat's intelligence, but surely two animals of the same species would be of a very similar intelligence level. Plus I really doubt that she would ever use her intelligence to manipulate or exploit DM as I believe that in a world with such a diverse range of species, animals of the same species would naturally have more hang ups about betraying or hurting each other. Looking out for animals that were the same species as you would just be a part of your moral compass. I'd say it's different to humans who aren't nearly as diverse as a world where every animal has intellect, but you actually can look at certain groups in real life and see a similar sorta dynamic. Gangs, organizations, support groups. People looking out for others who share the same traits, like skin colour or disabilities or behavioural things like addictions. So a mouse girlfriend would probably be a much more morally intact and loving one in comparison to other species.
There's also the natural trait of mice being meek. Danger Mouse is clearly an exception to the rule given his training as a secret agent, as well as him being a male and so naturally more dominant. He'd love a relationship where he was the savior and protector of a timid miss. She's smart enough to be independent, so she's not calling on him for stupid reasons, but at the same time she's withdrawn and wary enough to warrant Danger Mouse's attention and protection. There's also the physical attributes to account for. Well, there are many different types of mice in the world so I'm gonna try to nail what kinda mouse Fifi could be. We're not just looking for mice in Metropolitan France, but species and sub-species commonly located around Avenue Rachel. The most notable mouse prevalent in that urban area is called Apodemus Sylvaticus, or European wood mouse. They're found all over Europe's fields and forests, but wood mice are actually more of a problem in Paris than house mice (Mus Musculus) are and the two often get confused for each other given their almost identical appearance. Many wood mice in France have moved out of rural areas and made their nests in or around houses due to the heat and food available. So it's entirely possible that Fifi could be a French wood mouse. Now, what physical traits do they possess? Well, given that Fifi is a female wood mouse, there's a high chance that she naturally has homozygous recessive genes that cause her fur to be lighter than male wood mice, who are typically brown, dark brown or dark grey. Wood mice also have pretty large ears for mice. In fact, one of the ways to distinguish between them and house mice is by looking at their ear size. Danger Mouse has had his ears made fun of several times in the old and new show, and while the true effect of that on him is debatable, it does seem likely that he'd want to be with someone who he can relate to.
Nu-DM pushes the (in my opinion, awful and wrong) idea that Danger Mouse is a careless, negligent, irresponsible jerk with no sense of remorse who takes his friends for granted and lacks the ability to feel empathy (which became a central plot point in S2E33 "Licence to Care") but there are many examples from the original and occasionally the reboot that completely contradict this. Listing them all would be impossible, so I'll only talk about a few. In S6E5 "Multiplication Fable" (in the original), when Danger Mouse and Penfold feel hopeless in capturing a large group of rapidly reproducing aliens, DM begins to express his genuine appreciation for Penfold's friendship. In "The Four Tasks of Danger Mouse" series, Penfold is kidnapped and Danger Mouse is absolutely determined to rescue him, risking his life several times to obtain the ingredients that Penfold's kidnapper, the Baron, wants. In S2E22 "Dark Side of the Mouse" (in the reboot), Danger Mouse is mind controlled to do a variety of humiliating acts on camera and he spends most of the episode trying desperately to prevent one of the clips being posted, with the particular clip in the end revealed to be humiliating towards Penfold rather than him. There's also the Halloween episode mentioned earlier where Danger Mouse is shown to be pretty much paranoid about Penfold's safety, and is terrified of him being severely harmed. So I would argue that Danger Mouse does have the ability to appreciate and relate to others and would most likely find comfort in Fifi having large ears like him.
There's also DM's insecurity in relation to his eyepatch which is pretty interesting. He doesn't always show his softer side (in the original it's almost non-existant), and sometimes you have to look for it a little. Other times, it's more explicit like in S2E25 "Twysted Sister" (in the reboot) in a scene where Squawkencluck grabs and removes DM's eyepatch, causing him to panic and grab the nearest thing (Penfold's jam sandwich) to cover his eye. A similar thing happened in S2E34 "Force of Nature" (in the reboot) where Squawkencluck attempted to remove DM's eyepatch only for him to panic and back away. While there is a short scene in S1E14 "Danger Fan" (in the reboot) where DM does reveal the eye under his eyepatch (he doesn't draw any attention to it, though, he almost seems to make himself forget it's there), most of the time he acts very touchy and panicky when it comes to others messing with his eyepatch. Relation to mouse girlfriend? We've already established that she's likely to be very innocent, reletable and loving towards Danger Mouse. So she respects and loves him no matter what he looks like. Out of all the possible relationships I've analyzed, Danger Mouse being with this sorta girl is the only one that actually makes sense logically and emotionally. Someone who needs him, but isn't too clingy or dependent. Someone who let him lean on her as much as she leaned on him. Someone who truly treated him like he was the greatest, like he was fantastic.
Still, they broke up in the end, so... Perhaps I'm all wrong and Danger Mouse really did date a badger or a fox or a rat, and he saw those toxic relationships were what they were. But I've watched Danger Mouse for so many years, I've seen how he behaves and what he's like and I know what I see. Danger Mouse would be too bright and have way too much self-respect to get into a bad relationship like that, and while there's no telling exactly when it started, it went on long enough for it to be casually mentioned 131 episodes into the (original) show. So yeah, I am quite confident that Fifi is a timid yet kind-hearted light brown-grey French door mouse living in Avenue Rachel.
Let's move onto clothes, because it's evident that the human-like animals wear clothes. How could we possibly gonna know what Fifi wore? First let's take a look at DM. Not his clothes, but his character. Danger Mouse is a proper British secret agent, right? He's going to be quite upper class and stuff, so he's not going to date someone low in the social hierarchy. Plus we've already established that the relationship worked for a while since he could relate to her, so she's most likely going to have similar or the same mannerisms as him. He's going to date someone else who's prim and proper, a nice middle class lady. What do middle class ladies like to do? Be fashionable and trendy. After all, Danger Mouse has complimented his own fashion sense a few times, such as in "I Believe in Danger Mouse", so it must matter in some way to him. I looked into what sorta clothes were trending in France around that time and it's a bit of a long story. I thought it was going to be tough to find out what clothes specifically she would've worn since there would've been such a huge variety, however it turns out that 1980s fashion placed heavy emphasis on expensive fashion and vivid apparel, which helped narrow things down a little.
One of the first things I found was about fabrics and embellishments. A lot of French designers like Azzedine Alaia combined cotton and silk with silver or gold to create these really cool gowns and blouses, and then embellish them with sequins and beads. Then there was also bonnets and berets, which you probably already know about, made with brightly dyed crotcheted cotton or sometimes acrylic fibre. There was a short focus on flower-based designs, but I think that trend falls slightly outside the time frame we're looking at. It's still worth noting the influence it had though, since it relates to the bright colours used in the designs. In addition to that, there were shoes with thin heels, narrow multicolored belts, lacy gloves, beaded necklaces and plastic bracelets. I'll ignore the belts since they're traditionally a male/masculine item of clothing. I was going to do the same with the beret since it was adopted as male headwear during the French colonization, but when they started trending again women started wearing them too. You might also have seen evil French women in movies wearing jackets/coasts with fur, which was a trend for upper class French women at the time too but given the connotations, I doubt Fifi would've wore that. Also given the mediocre nature of a plastic bracelet in comparison to other accessories, often made of beads and jewels, I don't think she would've wore that.
So we've got thin heels, gown, bonnet, lacy gloves and beaded necklace left. Oh yeah, I almost forgot about lace-trimmed blouses. I'm going to eliminate thin heels based on anatomy, not just of her species as a mouse but also due to the cartoon proportions. I looked over mouse characters in the original and reboot and I drew a couple sketches in the style of the original and in the style of the reboot using Danger Mouse, Jeopardy Mouse and other female characters as references. Shoes like that just wouldn't work. Now the bonnet is something that French women of any class would wear which made me consider eliminating it, however I found out that bonnets with bows were popular with upper class French women. Lacy gloves might have the same issue as the fur coat - sinister or dodgy connotations of her character, which juxtaposes our established understanding of Fifi as being a sweet and caring character. Even if they're white lacy gloves, the angelic implications are overshadowed by the idea that she's pompous and/or not willing to sincerely and intimately connect (her hands/sense of touch and feeling are majorly covered). The gown seemed like a safer bet, and much more heavily implies her angelic and innocent nature. However they're quite excessive, I mean look at them. They're like wedding dresses, and that's a terrible connotation given that her and Danger Mouse split at some point. Lace-trimmed blouses are similar to gowns, but less like dresses and more casual while still retaining that fancy, expensive quality. For the beaded necklace, I searched for what kinda beads were usually used back then. I found this thing about an "add-a-bead" trend in the 80s, and the resulting necklaces were these bright, neon things, each necklace typically being a single colour of the rainbow such as bright red, yellow, green or blue. Which is cool, but they didn't seem fancy enough.
But then I realized, if upper class women would literally wear precious metals on their clothes, then surely their other stuff would contain similar rare materials too? Then I found out about cream pearl beaded necklaces. Nowadays they're entirely made of fake pearls strung together like beads, but in the 80s the necklaces were typically made with purple leaded glass beads and a single glistening (real) pearl which was positioned at the front and partially encased in a thin sliver of metal (usually silver or gold). Now that is high class! In addition to that, upper class French women were known for wearing stuff with pearls due to 19th century neoclassicism in which people wore sandals that had strings of pearls on the top. So if necklaces trended in the 80s, it would be fair to think French women wanted to combine that trend with the already popular usage of pearls in apparel. Now then, beret or bonnet? Given that bonnets have a more feminine history than berets, I'm going to have to go with bonnet. Plus, brightly coloured bonnets with bows were trendy for rich French women in the 80s whereas berets were less extravagant. But what colour bonnet? For that, I'll look to the colours known as "The Colours of the 80s" which are hot pink, yellow, orange and green. Now which one of these colours is the right one? I assumed hot pink because femininity, but you know what they say about assumptions. To find out for sure, I read extracts from several French autobiographies and published diaries based in the 80s such as "À Mon Amoureux" and "Qui a fait Grand Véfour, ça a fait mal à mes soeurs", and it turns out that yellow bonnets were extremely popular among upper class French women. Given that she'd wear a yellow bonnet, then she would likely have gold accents on her lace-trimmed blouse rather than silver since the yellow and gold compliment each other. The pearl on her necklace would be encased in gold for the same reason.
But maybe we are getting ahead of ourselves. After all, how do we know the 1981 Danger Mouse series actually takes place at that time? Simple! In certain scenes throughout the original (they often reused the same backgrounds, especially near the start of the show), you may notice a building in the background in London that's a faded white with some red above its entrance. It looks extremely similar to a chain of record stores called Our Price, which were around from 1971 - 2004 and were very popular in the 80s, appearing on many high streets in the UK. In addition, S1E8 "Die Laughing" (in the original) shows a bird character, guarded by a very patriotic military guy, attempting to access a top secret safe with the USA flag right by it. It's clear he's meant to resemble Ronald Reagan, who was president from 1981 - 1989. But even then, all this only proves the 1981 Danger Mouse series takes place within a range of years (1971-1992). Let's cut that down a bit more and get a more precise date. How? The original Professor Squawkencluck's brilliant time machine!
In the "150 Million Years Lost" series, Penfold is sent 150 million years into the past (approximately the early-mid Mesozoic era) and Danger Mouse goes back to the same time to save him. They encounter several long extinct creatures, one being a diplodocus. Diplodocid sauropod dinosaurs lived a little before 145 million years ago so everything seems to be checking out. The first episode of the 5 episode series was aired on 11th April 1983, so let's use that date. 1983 - 150,000,000 = -149,998,017. Hold that thought, ok? In the episode, Danger Mouse and Penfold encounter their prehistoric counterparts (DM only sees caveman DM briefly before he runs off). Now you're almost certainly thinking "Hang on! Dinosaurs and people weren't around at the same time, I call shenanigans!" and to that I say, shut your darn mouth! Danger Mouse and Penfold aren't people, they're animals, or mammalia to be more specific. And mammals like them were around back then during the Cretaceous period, I mean who else do you think took over after the meteor hit and the dust had settled? But this is where things get tricky; the earliest mammalian fossil record is dated back to only 66 million years ago, which is way after the diplodocus and its close relatives lived. Explanation? Let's get that ridiculously long number back: -149,998,017. Add 66 million onto it to make -83,988,017. What dinosaurs lived 83 million years ago? Aviary ones! Flapping, flying, shrieking, bird-like dinosaurs such as dimorphodons. These were pretty closely related to the well known pterodactyl as they all belong to pterosaurs. And what does DM encounter whilst exploring dino-land? A pterodactyl.
Why would there be early mammals and pterosaurs living alongside each other? Because Professor Squawkencluck's brilliant time machine didn't work so brilliantly - it sent Penfold and DM back to the late Cretaceous period, not the early-mid Mesozoic era like it was supposed to! It's important to note that the reason DM and Penfold were even at the lab in the first place is because Colonel K told them to check it out since it was new technology. Anything early in development is gonna have its kinks. But what about the diplodocus in the episode which lived way before the late Cretaceuous period? When the narrator identified the four-legged long-necked dinosaur as a diplodocus, he was close but mistaken: It's a galeamopus, which lived (you guessed it!) about 83 million years ago. It's also a close relative to the early Lessemsauridae, which lived 118 million years ago. Near the end of the episode, the narrator introduces Henry V who starts talking about events in October 1415, referencing the Battle of Agincourt as well as the Shakespearean play wrote about it. Seems completely random and out of the blue but it was actually done on purpose, and it practically seals my speculation airtight. It has nothing to do with when the episodes were aired, because they aired in April. It's an extremely subtle metaphor for the war waged by dinosaurs and mammals for the sake of survival. The French army represents the dinosaurs and the English army represents the mammals who, depsite being disadvantaged due to their smaller size, managed to win against the French and their miraculous victory is still one of England's most celebrated victories. It's a miracle that mammals survived and went on to evolve and make us who we are today. Just like the English army, mammals used clever tactics to survive making them faster at adapting in life-threatening situations.
Why's the year important? Take it and add every millions of years we've talked about so far, except remove the million part leaving just the significant figures: 1415 + 83 + 149 + 66 + 150 + 118 = 1981
Proof that 1981 Danger Mouse did actually take place at that time and so our guess about Fifi's apparel must be pretty accurate! Jeez, almost forgot I was originally talking about Fifi...
So, I'll sum up everything we know essentially for sure at this point. Fifi is a timid yet caring light brown/grey door mouse living in Avenue Rachel in Paris, France. She wears a lace-trimmed blouse with gold accents, a cream pearl beaded necklace and a yellow bonnet with a bow.
Time to address the elephant in the room, I guess... Why did Danger Mouse and Fifi break up? There's no way to know for sure, but I speculate that there are 3 viable reasons why the relationship ended.
Reason 1: Danger Mouse and Fifi grew apart due to DM's work.
Danger Mouse is almost always working. Sometimes the time frame between missions can be as short as minutes. While he can refuse to do missions (as seen in S1E2 "Danger at C Level" in the reboot where at the beginning of the episode he chooses going on holiday with Penfold over stopping Baron Greenback) and leave them up to the other agents, he takes them on most of the time due to his love of danger and likely because of the expectations and masculinity stuff I talked about earlier. You might want to argue that "Danger at C Level" proves this reason wrong because DM tried to give up excessive work for Penfold's sake. But that's the thing: he tried. And it didn't work. He ended up doing the mission anyway, breaking his promise. I'm not going to blame DM too much for this considering that S2E15 "Gold Flinger" (in the reboot) establishes he has a clinically diagnosed addiction to challenges and danger, but that still reinforces my point. Danger Mouse can't help but do missions all the time, and it clearly impacts those around him. I could believe that Fifi left Danger Mouse because he rarely made time for her, but only under the assumption that the relationship ended just before or during the reboot since old-DM seemed to have a lot more time to himself, not to mention it was implied there were a lot more agents (at least 57 of them) compared to the handful we have now so he wasn't constantly taking on mission after mission himself.
Reason 2: Danger Mouse had changed.
Anyone who's watched old-DM and nu-DM is able to see how flanderized he's become. There are some episodes and scenes that are an exception to this, but most of the time it's the rule. It's pretty sad to see such a respectable character being pushed as a literal monster. Whoever you blame that on, there is no denying that certain aspects and characteristics of DM have been decimated (such as his laugh, his deadpan delivery, his expertise, his professionalism) and he's forgotten some of the significant lessons and events that made him who he was (for example, in S6E6 "The Spy Who Stayed In with a Cold" in the original, Agent 57 points out how DM can be quite vain and egotistical, which made DM tone it down not just in that episode but every episode after). Nu-DM has taken minor flaws in his character, or even created new ones, and blown them out of proportion; stretching them to their absolute limit in order to manufacture conflict.
And if we, the audience, can see this then of course Fifi can too. Her once bold, attentive, responsible, secretly sweet boyfriend has become an ignorant, spiteful, reckless narcissist who sometimes cares so little for the feelings of others that he'll say irredeemably cruel things (such as harshly insulting and mocking Penfold in a non-ironic way for not wanting to be bait for a dangerous creature in "Licence to Care") or do immoral acts (such as flirting with Professor Squawkencluck's married mother in S1E23 "Frankensquawk's Monster" in the reboot purely to hurt the professor's feelings). All of this is without mentioning how he often forgets very important things about those who are close to him (not for medical reasons, he just doesn't care), like when he forgot about Penfold's allergy to mango in S1E36 "Masters of the Twystyverse" (in the reboot) despite the fact that knowledge of it was necessary to stop Baron von Penfold from taking over the world, as well as the fact that DM is supposed to care deeply about Penfold's safety yet seems to not care if his best friend suffers a major allergic reaction. So I could believe that Fifi left Danger Mouse because of how he'd changed for the worse. I mean, if that's the way he behaves on the air then imagine how he behaves off-screen.
Reason 3: Fifi met someone else.
This may sound obvious, so I'll just clarify that I mean she met someone else during her and DM's relationship rather than after they split up. You might think that if she's a mousy, loving girlfriend then she wouldn't cheat, but I'm not really referring to the act of cheating. She could've met them, fallen in love without impulsively acting on it, explained everything to DM and split with him to be with whoever she met. A clean break up. This one could be linked to the other reasons if you think about it. If DM wasn't spending as much time with her, she may have sought attention from someone else. Or, if DM had become spiteful and narcissistic, she may have been prompted to find someone who'd treat her nicer. Whatever happened, it's kinda possible that Fifi met someone else. Why she chose them over DM is hard to say, though. There are a variety of possible reasons, but I think we're both gonna start going crazy if I start putting lists in my lists, so I'll say that the most likely scenario is the other guy just had something DM didn't. It could've been anything, physically or personality-wise, and if we don't know for sure what it was then it's difficult to tell whether she broke up with old-DM or nu-DM. Still, given Fifi's nature I really don't think she would've done this. Anywho, this is the most vague of the reasons I've listed so far. Y'know, a lot of "we don't know for sure" and "it's difficult to say for certain" and I can't really use any episodes as evidence so it's not particularly sturdy reasoning. Honestly I believe she was genuinely smitten with Danger Mouse, and it was something he did that screwed the relationship rather than something she did.
So... Fifi is a timid yet caring light brown/grey door mouse living in Avenue Rachel in Paris, France. She wears a lace-trimmed blouse with gold accents, a cream pearl beaded necklace and a yellow bonnet with a bow. Her and DM were in a happy, loving relationship until they broke up due to either his extreme dedication to his job (and it can absolutely be argued that he doesn't need to be as dedicated as he is) which left her feeling unappreciated/unloved or his awful and contradictory change of personality which pushed her away as everything she loved about him was no longer there. Keep in mind this is all speculation, I can admit I'm probably not 100% bang on correct. But based on facts, inferences and evidence, this is the best I can do and I'll keep this current idea/design until something proves me wrong.
So yeah, I think that's about it. Hah! I was having so much fun writing this that I really didn't want to ever finish. I've learned about so many interesting things while trying to figure this mystery out and I feel... I don't really know. Usually I'm not perceptive at all, I'm pretty dumb, and critical thinking is a concept I never really grasped. But this structured "essay" has brought out a more rational, logical side of me that I really thought I'd lost. A side that judges without prejudice and favours evidence over assumptions. I should do this more often. All of that personal stuff aside...
I found out who your girlfriend was Danger Mouse! Are you proud of me?! See I did research and everything! Was I right? Please tell me I'm right! I totally found out who Fifi is and why you guys broke up! What do you mean I'm being "creepy"? Haha, good one DM! I just LOVE you so much Danger Mouse!
...Yea Forums?
It's okay, not everyone is a Danger Fan. I got to dwell on the things I've considered and researched, so this wasn't a wasted opportunity. Now I have more stuff to add to the Danger Board! :D Have a great day, Yea Forums!
Your autism is both irritating and inspiring.
Most based thread in Yea Forums history
You really think so?!
someone cap this shit
what fresh hell is this
meh, the sing gorilla guy was worse
what the fuck
This "fresh hell" is one of my awesome Danger Mouse theories, squished into one looooong thread!
Jesus fucking christ
You're adorable, OP. Never change.
I admire your autism OP
>Yea Forums, Yea Forums, /sci/, /an/, /his/ and /ck/ all in one
BASED IANANON
We are reaching a critical mass of autism
ianon sounds better desu
So much autism
Thanks, anons! I think! I-is autism good on here?
Just let the poor boy have his fun.
your too precious and its killing me
I want to hug that corgi
Would have been a 10 out of 10 thread if it whern't for your lazy file names. Get creative with those. Still 9/10 thread, reminds me of old Yea Forums. Good job, OP.
>ianon
I've never even heard of this cartoon.
it's alright but the older one was better
Fucking dead
no
what the shit is this fuck?
That's fair. I'm glad you enjoyed the ride.
You can't bring it up and not post
I read this entire thing in Ian's voice and I'm fucking dying
somehow this danger mouse thread is worse
include me in the screen cap faggots
Hey... I also had another thought. Maybe a more disturbing one, but it's still pretty valid. Wanna hear it?
Hah! You Yea Forums people crack me up sometimes! Anyways...
What if Fifi died? I mean think about it, that could make sense. Not just based on Danger Mouse's personality and actions but also based just on the fact we never see her. If she was an agent too, like we briefly mentioned earlier, then her dying would be plausible given how deadly and dangerous the missions can be. It would also explain why she's absent in nu-DM despite the team being more fleshed out. You might question why it hasn't been talked about at all, and for that I'll just point to S2E7 "Lost Tempers in Space" in the reboot where the Colonel believes an agent has never gone missing on his watch but Penfold quietly corrects him, and the Colonel is mildly shocked at how many they've lost (which is implied to be a lot). As dark as it sounds, it's the norm for Danger Agents to die or at least go missing, and it's certainly the norm for them to be severely or even fatally injured considering the non-chalant attitudes present throughout the reboot towards the health of the agents and their dangerous living spaces. It's all so normal that even the superiors, like the Colonel, who are meant to keep track of this sorta thing just can't keep up. Even if she wasn't an agent, it would explain why she's never seen by the audience and only mentioned very briefly. She might have died after "Statues", which is why Penfold never told the audience about her despite saying he would sometime. It would've been really insensitive and disrespectful since she meant so much to Danger Mouse and the last thing DM would want on top of all that (good) grief is the embarrassment of an entire audience knowing about his "weakness".
Ignoring her absence, let's look at the way DM behaves. Well, first off... Has anyone seen that show called After Life, y'know the one with Ricky Gervais in it? It's really good, apart from the slightly immoral messages it sends about the kinda company you should keep. Anyway, Gervais plays a severely depressed and suicidal man called Tony. Tony used to be a funny, kind, upstanding gent until the love of his life died of cancer. Distraught and dead inside, he turned bitter and rude and while he retained a sense of humor, it was a lot more impolite and blunt. Despite his wife using pre-recorded videos to tell him about doing housework, he's too depressed to do any of it and so stuff builds up, making the house messy. He also started taking needless risks like mocking gangsters who were trying to mug him and doing drugs despite not being plagued by addiction. I think the point of the show is to portray the process of grieving in a more realistic way; that grief victims aren't always sensitive and fragile, they sometimes use harshness and rudeness as a coping mechanism too and can end up being total jerks to anyone in their path, even people who are close to them. After all, three of the five stages of grief are denial, anger and depression. Losing someone you love, especially prematurely, can really screw with your head and make even the nicest person into a bully.
Hmmm. I wonder if there's anyone else we know whose personality has suddenly changed for the worse, who can't be bothered to do basic household chores and who constantly partakes in needlessly risky activities. I'll give you a clue: He's tall, white and his name rhymes with "Manger Douse".
I don't think I have to explain again about how DM has changed from an endearing secret agent to a mean-spirited, infantile jerk. As for my second point, there's S1E26 "The Hamster Effect" in which Brunel stops Penfold and Danger Mouse ever meeting and, as a result, their place is always a mess because DM doesn't do household chores. For my third point, while you could say his risky behaviour's down to his Compulsive Challenge Disorder, he was implied to have beaten it for the most part, or at least fought against it with Penfold's support. DM often makes missions even more dangerous than they already are, putting his life in more danger. He does suggest it's because it makes them more fun, but do you really trust DM at this point? Back to After Life, Tony does stupid and wreckless things because he believes ending his life is the perfect fall back plan (he describes it as his "superpower") and he acts like he has an ego. He acts selfish and goes on about how he doesn't care about treating others like dirt but it's shown that, deep down, he really hates himself and he values others' lives over his own. It may seem obvious due to the suicidal stuff, but if you take that out of the equation, later episodes of the series really highlight these hidden feelings he has. Now back to Danger Mouse, it could be possible that DM puts himself in extreme danger because he actually doesn't care about being alive. Like Tony, he doesn't always actively and intentionally attempt to kill himself despite deeply wanting to and on the rare occasions where he feels compelled to, he stops himself because of Penfold. Just like how Tony doesn't want to leave his beloved dog alone and defenceless, Danger Mouse doesn't want to leave Penfold having to deal with protecting the planet and having to cope with his best friend's death. But at the same time, he's still depressed and doesn't really value his own life so he sometimes gives into the urge to cause himself harm.
This is probably most evident in S1E49 "Mousefall" when DM sacrifices his life to save Penfold. Now you tell me: Why would a self-obsessed, egocentric narcissist who believes they're God's gift to the world be willing to give up their life to protect someone they've often berated for being inferior? Because, perhaps, he's not really a self-obsessed, egocentric narcissist who believes he's God's gift. It may all be a facade because he's still grieving. DM secretly values everyone else's lives over his own and is willing to sacrifice himself with little to no hesitation because he hates living in a world without Fifi. He'll get unnecessarily mad at Penfold doing practically nothing wrong because he can't stand waking up every morning knowing Fifi's gone. He'll break Squawk's inventions out of carelessness because he's too distracted by thoughts about Fifi. He's easily manipulated because he craves the same sorta attention Fifi gave him so badly that he'll do anything for that high again. He'll overreact and lash out like a petulant brat because he knows that the woman he loved is not waiting for him in Paris anymore, she's not leaning over the balcony anticipating when he'll will drop by in the Danger Car and fly them over Lac du Bourget, she's not quietly humming and smiling as she imagines what her dashing hero is doing at that moment in time. He won't ever see her eyes light up as he merrily shows up wine in hand, he won't ever feel her warmly embrace him as he saves her, he won't ever hear her giggle softly at his witty jokes and he won't ever be able to see the adorable look of astonishment and amazement on her face as he tells her all about what absurd adventure he got up to that day. He won't be able to experience any of those things ever again.
It's hard to say exactly which stage of grief DM's on, given he seems to flip between the first, second and fourth stages. But still, grief is not measured objectively. Anyway, there's no way of knowing for sure whether Fifi died or if they simply broke up. Personally I'm torn on what truly happened. The Fifi is dead theory seems like it could work, but I don't wanna fully believe it in case I'm just biased. After all, one of the reasons nu-DM is so frustrating to me is because a lot of what DM says is so mean-spirited and he acts almost nothing like he did in the original. I might feel prompted to believe he's grieving the death of a loved one to nullify or rationalize his bad behaviour when it may as well just be poor writing. On the other hand, DM being the cause of the break up seems like it makes sense too. Eh... All of this is just silly speculation anyways!
ive never seen so much based autism in all my life. god bless you ianon
>this entire thread
You're doing good work ianon.
Oh! I almost forgot that I drew Fifi too! These are the digitalized versions. I originally drew multiple designs on paper as I delved deeper and deeper into the research I was doing, but I lost them before I could put them on my Danger Board... Oh well. At least I digitalized them before I lost them, so I guess I could print these out and stick them on. I really need to clean my bedroom, heh.
didn't think this was a feels thread but ok
>Someone had to type this all out
>Someone had to download as many pics of Ian as possible to get past filters
>Someone then had to comb through to make sure it was all in character no less
>Someone had to fill out all those captchas and wait to then post more of their in character fan theory
this level of autism cannot even begin to be quantified.
>soul vs soulless
Heh, y'know, all this talk of "autism" reminds me of this one time Danger Mouse was giving me this lecture on personal space. I mean... I'm not some kinda idiot who doesn't understand it or anything, I know why people want it or even need it sometimes. But it just feels kinda wrong that I know so much about him and he doesn't ever talk to me about it. Or anything. I'm just another villain to him. I could be his best buddy! Well... I could never replace Penfold. He's awesome! But man, Danger Mouse should really open up a little more. Especially to me! I only kidnap him because he's my hero and all.
I'm curious about that writing Ianon. Particularly that heart in the middle.
>I could never replace Penfold. He's awesome!
you said he stinks in the board game episode, you faggot of a corgi
what the fuck is this.
I don't know... It's a lot of writing. I suppose I could take some more pictures, if that's what you want!
It's a long story. To explain things the best I can: I'm a cartoon character. My consciousness bends to the will of my writers when I'm on the show. If a bad writer decides that I hate Penfold, I have no choice but to say and do what they want. People can be troublesome, but I don't hate you guys. Once I'm not on the show and free to do what I want, I can express myself in a way that suits me!
I'd bone Danger Mouse's dead wife
I knew Ian browsed Yea Forums
It's not the thread Yea Forums deserves, but it's the one it needs right now
but what board would pic related browse?
Of course I do! You guys are so cool! Almost as cool as Danger Mouse!
OP, I appreciate you. Your niche interest and knowledge of Danger Mouse is as big, if not bigger, than my interest and knowledge of Star Wars, Bionicle, and a few other franchises. I can't begin to fathom your dedication to this cartoon, but I couldn't make it past your first 25~ posts before needing a break (because I know nothing about Danger Mouse). All of this may actually get me to watch Danger Mouse, along with the cute dog you're using as an avatar. I'd genuinely wish to be friends with someone as interesting and intelligent as you, but I fear you'd lose interest in friendship with because of my own lack of intelligence.
Okay, here's the first picture! I'll just post all the ones I've got.
Jesus Christ you're starting to scare me.
I think that's about it! Sorry about my handwriting. Cartoon hands and real pens are a tough mix...
Wow, user! That's really nice of you to say! I don't think you lack any intelligence, you seem like a really smart and cool guy!
Gentleman, I beleave we've gone past autism and into the Danger Zone.
>And this is what my son does on the weekends...
>cutout/photoshop of Ian's hand
I'm not sure if I should think it's cute or be terrified
i made something for you ian desu i know its terrible i havent drawn in a year fuck me
Tell me how it started op
You mean the Danger Mouse Zone!
Yeah... You don't see my parents in the show but... They don't approve of my love of Danger Mouse. I can kinda understand it. They're probably tired of bailing me out of prison.
Aww, thanks! It's really cute, user.
I wonder if OP wrote to the showcreators at some point, and that's how Ian's character got drawn.
Posting to both bump the thread and be in the screencap.
>this thread
Holy fuck, what the hell is this spiraling thread of mystery?
>They're probably tired of bailing me out of prison
the fuck did you do
My love of Danger Mouse? Man... Where do I even begin... I guess when I was a little kid. I was kinda weird because I never really liked cartoons as much as other kids did (ironic, right?) and preferred puppet shows like Sesame Street and stuff. But even then, I didn't care for TV that much. My dad knew how to burn discs and stuff and one day, he popped in this disc full of Danger Mouse episodes. Well, I say "full of" but it was just a couple episodes. "The Four Tasks of Danger Mouse" and "Custard". I didn't wanna watch them at first because I thought they were gonna be boring, but I guess my parents really needed the distraction so they could get on with stuff without having to constantly tell me not to stick my fingers in a plug socket or something, heh. They sat me down and I hesitantly watched the first episode and... Well, I really liked it. I loved it, actually. I loved how cool Danger Mouse was and how reletable Penfold was. Years later, I watched the entire series and started looking up to Danger Mouse and Penfold as role models. Danger Mouse is everything I want to be, and Penfold reminds me of myself and the hard, but rewarding, journey to being a better person.
Laughing at all ther/Yea Forums fags who won't be in screencap.
NO WE MUST LEWD THE CORGI
im sorry to tell you this user but
holy fuck user, how long did you work on this?
I don't know whether to cringe or laugh at your commitment to this LARP. I must ask, why does Danger Mouse wear his patch?
Ian as a son > Ian as a lover
samefag here. Also wanted to mention that now i wanna watch this to see what it's all about
Thanks, I think. Haha. Why does he wear an eyepatch? Well, it's a bit of a long story, but I can explain it.
aw shit, here we go again
Danger Mouse's left eye may be affected by a condition known as strabismus, which is when one eye works totally fine while the other eye is stuck in a fixed position, usually pointing in a certain direction. It can be caused by a head or eye injury, which could hint at what happened to DM. On the other hand, it's also commonly passed down through families which could suggest at least one of DM's parents or grandparents had the condition.
Looking at Danger Mouse's left eye in "Danger Fan", it's hard to say which type of strabismus he has since the pupil is wide and seems to point ahead. I resorted to using pixel-by-pixel measurements to see the actual position of the pupil in relation to the sclera. Initially it looked like exotropia, where the affected eye points outwards, but I think that's because DM was sitting and tilting his head at a very slight angle throughout most of the scene. After doing the measurements the eye actually points inwards meaning DM could possibly suffer from esotropia as well as mydriasis given how big the pupil is. Mydriasis is often caused by stimulants, and while it would be fun to write a theory about the world's greatest crack addict, I don't think that's the case. He has too much to lose to go down that route, and surely his other eye would be dilated too. Perhaps the isolated mydraisis is due to him wearing a black eyepatch on that eye all the time, as our pupils typically dilate when it's dark.
I also thought it was worth mentioning that DM can definitely see through his left eye. Not only is it evidenced through the use of his iPatch, which he wouldn't be able to use if he was blind in that eye, but also because strabismus is merely a failure of the two eyes to stay properly aligned, it doesn't cause blindness (it may cause double vision, though).
I´m scared
Without talking about his self-esteem, this could also explain the eyepatch. Patching one eye is an actual way to treat strabismus as it encourages recalibration of the eyes, although this is usually done with the stronger eye rather than the affected eye. But why an actual eyepatch over a medical patch, and why would he still be wearing one after all these years? I think it all started in his childhood. In S1E28 "Attack of the Clowns", DM has a flashback to when he was young. He also refers to himself as "little" which often refers to being under 12 in British dialect. In the flashback, he's very small (and very adorable!) and is seen laughing at a clown doing silly gags at a party. That in itself suggests how young he is. I thought maybe I could measure how tall he is in the flashback and compare it to how tall he is now, but I had a couple of issues with that. Firstly, it would be hard to find an image of adult DM that's at the exact same angle and position as kid DM to make an accurate comparison. Thirdly, kid DM is sat down throughout the entire flashback which would make finding his true standing height pretty difficult.
Then I figured it out! He's wearing a party hat in the flashback! On average, party hats are 4.92 inches. I'll round that up to 5 inches. I drew a triangle over the hat so it was the same size, rotated it to be straight instead of tilting at an angle, and pasted it multiple times from the bottom of kid DM's body up to the top of his ears. I also rotated the hats to match the angles his legs were laid out at so I could measure his leg size from the bottom of his feet to where his body starts. I managed to fit 2 whole hats and two thirds of a hat from body to ears, and about half a hat for each leg. So: 5 × (2 + 2/3 + (1/2 × 2)) = 18.3333333333. Kid DM is approximately 18.3 inches tall. Convert that to feet and you get 1.525ft. Only one and a half feet! In metres, it's 0.46482m. To give you some perspective, slightly smaller than a galapagos penguin which are usually around 0.5m and one of the smallest penguin species in the world. But things get a little bumpy here because when you're 18 inches long, you tend to be 3 months to a year old. Kid DM has the eyepatch, so whatever caused his esotropia has already happened by then, which is pretty sad since he's so little and innocent.
Now, using this information, I'm going to finally explain why it's an actual eyepatch and not a special medical patch, and why he's still wearing it! Something happened to DM, or perhaps he was born with the condition, and he ended up with unaligned eyes. Keep in mind that, according to The Danger Mouse Files, he was not raised by his parents (as they were busy agents), instead he was raised by a nanny. It's not specified when exactly he was handed over but it likely wasn't the same day of his birth. In real life when a child is born and handed over, the timeframe of the process varies depending on the situation, but since it's two busy parents who know and trust someone, the transfer could've taken only a month at the most (going off specific non-formal adoption timeframes). It was a very common trope back then (even though the flashback was in the style of nu-DM, it can't possibly take place in 2015) for nannies to be fretful, overprotective and slightly dim but with good intentions and a loving nature. I speculate that the nanny who raised DM saw what was wrong with him and panicked, unsure of how to deal with the situation. Full of worry about what his parents and other people would think, she neglects getting him actual medical care. The Danger Mouse Files also mention that DM could speak only hours after he was born, so at about a month old he could definitely talk pretty well and he might've given her advice on what to do, but since he was a kid they'd be childish and silly suggestions. She wanted to cover his flaw; hide it for DM's sake since she knew how cruel kids can be and how judgemental adults are. DM at some point mentions wearing a pirate eyepatch, and he's pretty enthusiastic about it. Going on about how cool he'd look and everything. DING, nanny gets an idea!
It wouldn't be the first or only time a disabled child's picked their disability aid. Amputee kids are allowed to wear prosthetic legs and arms they like the look of, like Paw Patrol or Transformers themed ones and stuff,
so it's not that bad or unusual if DM chose to wear a pirate-like eyepatch to cover his esotropia. Or maybe it is... I mean, it's clear that it's not working to re-align his eyes since he's been wearing it ever since he was little and his left eye is still affected by the condition. Perhaps if his nanny had taken him to a paediatrician and gotten him a proper medical patch or got him to do regular eye exercises or let him undergo surgery on his eye muscles, he wouldn't still have esotropia. You might ask why DM doesn't just get these things done himself now that he's older and can legally make his own medical choices, and I think it's because he doesn't feel the need to. Remember, he's a very traditional guy. Not a big fan of change. He's lived his whole life like this and things have gone relatively smoothly, so why change now? Or maybe it could tie in with how he wants to be perceived as tough and masculine, and the implication of injury makes him look more dangerous. Although, it could also be due to things that happened during his childhood...
I do have another theory relating to Danger Mouse's insecurities. It's about the root of it all, y'know like where it all started. But perhaps I should wait a while and let you guys talk, heh. Sorry that I keep taking over and stuff, I just love Danger Mouse so much!
user, i'm reading all this like you're one of those Youtubers have have a stock of 5 or 6 images of them drawn that change every sentence i.e. Saberspark
I'm not sure what I expected but I appreciate the answer
Not yet
>this level of detail/precision while typing
jesus christ op....just
I am seriously stumped right now
>ywn have danger mouse obsessed son
>ywn buy him a danger mouse lunchbox and watch him sperg out of happiness
>ywn bail him out of prison for 1st degree kidnapping
>ywn tuck him into bed and read him comics until he falls asleep whispering "i love you dad"
why live
Anyone have a mega for the series? The links on the archive were taken down.
No problem, user! I love answering questions about Danger Mouse!
where can i watch this in full?
Good show, but your 'tism's just a tad much.
Bumping in the off chance that a DM thread can survive.
>the world's greatest crack addict
Sorry, I don't pirate or anything. I either watch the episodes on TV, Youtube or the iPlayer. Wish I could help you.
kisscartoon, here i come, then
Fuckit Im jumping on the Ianon train too
>he did it
I've never seen a DM thread on here before. I'm just glad I have you guys to talk to, even if most of you haven't watched the show.
LET ME FUCK YOUR BOI PUSSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We have them from time to time, just not constantly. I think there was at least one the past month
Make one anytime you feel like it, this shit is wholesome
You're gonna have to take me to dinner first.
Done
i clicked on this thread hoping for some pictures of Chicken Ass and i only got autism
Aww! Thank you so much user! I love it!
Sorry I didn't acknowledge this post before! Thank you! You guys don't have to do all this nice stuff, y'know!
what in the shit
At least we didn't get waifufags this time around.
>stephen fry
/lgbt/
Put me in the screenshot
GET TO IT DRAWFAGS I NEED MY FUCKING IAN LEWDS
Ian x Danger when
/cm/ too
What the heck? I'm not gay! And neither is Danger Mouse!
>DM spinoff starring Ian
>Ian gives up on kidnapping DM and is trying to be a normal kid
>Ian's neglectful parents are always away
>hirebabysitter.jpg
>She's always thirsty as fuck
>Every episode is babysitter lusting over Ian while he casually and enthusiastically rejects her
>Every episode she grows increasingly jealous of Ian's love for DM over her
>Every episode he'll snap her out of some twisted, degenerate fantasy through his childhood innocence
I second this please. Netflix seems to have forgotten about DM
That's pretty messed up, user...
>DM thread
>Nobody pointing out how shit nu DM is
Pathetic
Did you miss me talking about how nu-DM flanderizes Danger Mouse really badly? Even then, I don't think the show's terrible. There are some really bad episodes in nu-DM, but I don't think they outweigh the good ones. If anything, the good episodes overshadow the bad ones through how emotional and touching they can be. The original show had a much bigger focus on comedy and absurdity so it's a nice new touch. And you have to remember that old-DM and nu-DM are targeting two vastly different audiences. For example, something that was funny in the 80s probably won't be as funny nowadays.
If you mean in terms of design, then that's very subjective. I'm personally not a massive fan of Danger Mouse's 2015 look, but I don't think it's terrible. It recaptures his quirks and boldness pretty well, and the crew behind it were thoughtful and diligent to a good extent. For example, in a video they uploaded that shows you how to draw Danger Mouse, they mention that they intentionally gave his nu-design a lot of sharp edges to indicate his edgy personality. It's reassuring to know they did put some thought into it and they do show a lot of responsibility for the choices they make, and it wouldn't be fair to criticize the nu-design on the basis that they didn't care.
mfw ianon is better developed as a character than canon ian
we truly live in the best timeline
what the fuck
>Heart with little hearts in it
>Surrounded by the words 'Danger Mouse' like a serial killer's diary
Ian
Are you ok
Heh, I also took one last picture! Just to prove this is MY Danger Board and not somebody else's!
>There are some really bad episodes in nu-DM
Like for example?
>I'm personally not a massive fan of Danger Mouse's 2015 look, but I don't think it's terrible.
That's ok.
HES REAL AND BLESSED
you absolute madman.
I actually have a list of my 5 best and worst old-DM and nu-DM episodes. I'd imagine you wouldn't want me to go through the entire thing but I can list the 5 worst nu-DM episodes (in my opinion) if you want.
This is uh, something.
HOLY FUCK THIS IS NOT A DRILL
5) Crouching Hamster Hidden Wagon.
A lot of poop jokes in this one. To the point where I'm kinda uncomfortable. Look I don't have a problem with toilet humour, I'm a pretty immature person myself. But you can do it right like in the Lion King or Shrek, or you can do it wrong like in this episode. For example, the toilet humour in Shrek worked because it was a crucial part of his character and had contextual relevance. It was one of the foundations of his and Fiona's bond and even mixed in with the "don't judge others before you get to know them" moral of the movie. Here it's just... Farms smelly because animal poopoo. Queue laughtrack. I'm not saying there had to be lessons and morals based off cow dung, but they could've made better jokes than that surface level stuff. There's this one scene where a pile of poop explodes and some of it gets on the camera. Maybe it would've been funnier if the narrator had made some sorta disgusted comment, but no one really said anything, you just had to sit there and take it all in. Eww...
Alright, this is gonna be very interesting to hear your opinion on episodes.
And feel free to call me a jerk but I'm saying it: I don't like Penfold's granny. I have more serious reasons to hate her, like why she didn't raise Penfold after his parents abandoned him since she clearly knew about him as she'd trained him in farm fu as a kid. But strictly talking about the episode, her plan doesn't benefit anyone. Penfold asks after she says she's going to make all animals equal if she's going to set the farm animals free, and she says "No" before unleashing some sorta curse thing that makes all the anthropomorphic animals into regular animals. What? Society'll collapse! How are governments supposed to function when they all have such a low IQ that the only task they can process is pressing a bell to get a treat? How are the animals in the emergency services supposed to do their jobs if they don't even have thumbs? I also don't like the implications of Penfold having an evil grandma, as if it's in his blood to betray others. I mean, he did it in "Nero Come Home" so it wouldn't be unjustified to say maybe some of granny Penfold's evil granny juices have been passed down through the Penfold family tree. I will admit though, that little "Graham" exchange in the barn was pretty funny and I like that it became a running gag throughout the episode, and the "Granger Louse" thing was hilarious.
But another thing that sucked about the episode is the wasted potential of DM feeling like a sidekick. This is something that's never happened before in the show's history. Their dynamic rarely changes and on all but one occasion has only ever changed by DM's will, so you could make the argument that since DM made the choice he was technically taking charge and the role reversal wasn't genuine. In this episode, Penfold is legitimately being courageous and competent and independent to the point where where DM felt useless and inadequate. And then... That's not addressed again until the climax. DM just disappears from the story until Penfold needs rescuing again, restoring the dynamic. While he does say he's "happy" to be Penfold's sidekick, it's clearly a lie because he physically couldn't bring himself to admit that Penfold was better than him. He still thought of himself as on top; number one. So what was the point in making him seem all depressed if you're just gonna go nowhere with it and bring things back to normal with no one learning or changing anything? That was completely pointless! I can appreciate what the episode was trying to do, though. One of the things I was looking forward to in a Danger Mouse revival was for it to have more action. While this show has delivered to a huge extent, there's not a lot of actually animated fighting. Most of the time it's just that classic cartoon cloud with a flurry of fists, which is disappointing. The episode was much more animated in that regard and did try its best to showcase more action and fight scenes, and I'll give it credit for that. I'll also give it credit for acknowledging how weird it is that there are anthropomorphic animals living alongside regular animals and incorporating those differences into the plot. That was pretty cool. But overall it's an episode full of missed opportunities, wasted potential and unnecessary poop jokes.
4) The World Is Full of Stuff.
Dangercluck... Err... Squawkenmouse...? Whatever. Look, whatever it is, it doesn't work. It just doesn't. This whole episode is fan service, but not even the good kind. It doesn't even satisfy the teen girls it's aiming at because all they want is Dangerfold (so I suppose you could technically consider "Day of the Derek" fan service). It doesn't satisfy hardcore fans like me because we know DM is not the kinda person to be in a love-hate relationship. There's not much else to say. The only reason this episode exists is the same reason that episode of Spongebob Squarepants where him and Sandy "get married" exists, and it really shows. There's nothing of substance, the whole episode leads up to what was basically a fake-out and the ending's foreshadowing can go to heck.
3) Agent 58.
Y'know, I have a theory that some of the writers of nu-DM secretly hate old-DM. That's why anything related to the old show gets demonized. Me, an old-DM fan, in "Danger Fan", the Mark III in "Grand Stressed Auto" and Agent 57 in this episode. Except it's his son, Agent 58. Oh and you know how Agent 57's true form has always been kept a secret to emphasise his role as a secret agent with a secret identity and to bring an air of mystery and even eerieness to his character? Yeah no he's an octopus I guess, since his direct son reveals his true form the moment he's introduced. And look, I don't mind twist villains. I'm not going to get into the details of what makes a good twist villain (there's a really good Youtube video by Schaffrillas Productions on the matter) but I really hated this twist villain. His motivation to kill DM and Penfold would make sense... Except his dad was extremely close to DM and probably wouldn't have raised such an evil child in the first place given how much of a decorated agent he was. The thing about DM sticking with Penfold in spite of how many times he messes up could've been wholesome but the episode focuses too much on mocking Penfold to actually show how much DM values his friend's loyalty and company in spite of his screw-ups. Trust me, Danger Mouse, that little hamster's gotten you out of more scrapes than just 3. Nu-DM should be glad Penfold even sticks around, he's way too ungrateful of Penfold's friendship and it's highlighted pretty badly in this episode.
2) No More Mr Ice Guy.
What the heck is wrong with this episode? I can tolerate Colonel K being a bumbling idiot, heck it can be pretty entertaining at times, but in this episode he's just downright cruel to Penfold. And I guess I get it, he never really cared for him in the first place or even knew he worked there, but still. Firing him and hiring a known villain over snow cones? I'm trying not to get too mad at it since it's not like they glorify K for being so mean when Penfold did literally nothing wrong; Squawk does point out how ridiculous K's decision is. But then there's Danger Mouse. This is definitely one of DM's worst characterizations, but there's a reason why I've put this episode here and not "Masters of the Twystyverse", which I'll get into later. Watching DM and the Snowman catch villains isn't that fun, especially because it keeps cutting back to Penfold's situation and reminding you of the injustice that lead to the Snowman taking his place as a Danger Agent. There's a huge focus on Snowman's abilities, almost like the writers are nudging your shoulder like "Huh? Huuh? See, he ain't so bad!" and it's just so insulting. The whole time you're just sat there hoping Penfold's okay, you don't care what that frozen jerk is up to since you already know he's going to double cross Danger Mouse at some point to put things back to the way they were. There's also this scene where Squawk is checking with DM to see how Snowman's working out as a sidekick, and DM says he's "happy to report" that Snowman's a decent sidekick and then he mentions how he hasn't thought about Penfold for days. Wow. Not even thought about him? Your best friend? For over 20 years? Do I even have to express how angry this makes me, or do you get the picture by now? I'm gonna assume you get it.
I gotta admit, Woolington Sham was a pretty cool character. But at this point, he hasn't been heard from again. A genocidal sheep wanting to bring manners back to Britain? Awesome! Why does he only get one episode?
Finally, there's the apology. This is why I chose this episode over the other one as my second most hated nu-DM episode. The other one was trashy yet unintentional. This is just purposeful spite. Penfold apologizes for "storming off". What?! Since when did he do that? Did they cut that scene out and forget to do a rewrite? "Storming off" implies he was angry, and anger would imply refusal to accept the situation. He fainted, then accepted being fired and walked from HQ with a sad look on his little face with all his stuff in a box. And even if he had stormed off, why would he apologize for that? Colonel K never acknowledges his contributions to the Secret Service, he constantly belittles him with silly names that further suggest how much he doesn't care about him and most of the time K forgets that Penfold even exists. And then he had the audacity to fire him because a villain, who in "The Snowman Cometh" stole Santa's magic hat and threatened the entire world, gave him a snow cone. Penfold had every single right to storm off, and he didn't. He accepted it like the doormat he is. Perhaps you could just say it's in Penfold's nature to be overly apologetic, and that's fair. But then why did DM take that apology? Why didn't he tell his best friend there was no need to apologize and that the Colonel was in the wrong, or even admit he was in the wrong for not defending Penfold when he desperately needed him to? The episode doesn't start off that bad. Penfold being replaced by the Snowman could've worked if DM had been more confrontational and displeased about the decision.
They almost went in the right direction with the first scene where DM and the Snowman interact as partners. The Snowman comments on how he's finally riding in the Mark IV, and Danger Mouse says "If you don't count all the times we drove you to jail". Here DM still treats Snowman like the villain he is rather than accepting that this is his new crime-busting buddy. And there's his use of "we" as well. He's still thinking about Penfold, referring to him even when he's not there. But it's all just downhill from there. What a despicable episode.
1) Licence to Care.
This episode is not unsalvageable. It's not a lost cause. But boy does it need work, because it is awful. Possibly the worst Danger Mouse episode to ever exist in the history of the show, I don't think they'll ever top this. Alright I'll stop whining now and get on with why I don't like it. First of all, DM's lack of empathy is the most forced mischaracterization of him I've ever seen. I won't say they pulled it out of nowhere because they pulled it from a different personality trait (his narcissism) that in itself is flanderized, which is why him lacking in empathy seems so out of character. His actions throughout the episode as a result of the sudden lack of empathy are so needlessly cruel and most of his lines when he's not highly empathetic DM are so noticably out of character that it makes you wonder how this episode made it past the storyboarding phase. Was the entire team really okay with this characterization of DM? It's explicitly worse than their already second-rate version of him.
Not only that, but highly empathetic DM is poorly written too. The writers do know what empathy is... Don't they? I mean, Squawk asks DM if he knows what empathy is and he mistakes it for telepathy so clearly the writers feel competent themselves. It's the ability to share someone else's feelings or experiences by imagining what it would be like to be in that person's situation. After getting sprayed, DM doesn't exactly fit this definition. I get that he's supposed to fit it to an extreme, but the way he acts is so off... It's more fanatic and clingy than empathetic. I guess you could argue it's his empathy that drives him to being fanatic and clingy. But why did highly empathetic DM let Baron Greenback out of prison? Yes, he said he believed everyone deserves a chance and all that, but he knows full well that Baron's had many, many chances to correct his wrongdoing. On top of that, Greenback has caused multiple global disasters and has threatened, kidnapped and most likely even killed multiple people over the years. You're telling me DM isn't empathetic towards the victims of Greenback's evil plots? He wouldn't feel any compassion towards them which would drive him not to release a dangerous criminal mastermind? Greenback has kidnapped Penfold in the past and held him at gun (and crocodile) point, and "Licence to Care" mostly showcases DM's empathy towards Penfold, so you don't think DM would at least consider his best friend before releasing Greenback too?
>Dangercluck... Err... Squawkenmouse...?
> Look, whatever it is, it doesn't work.
I know, right? I had mixed feelings about this ship after watching this episode.
Absolutely true.
>Why does he only get one episode?
Maybe he'll appear in next season.
Questionable
Anyways, I chuckled maybe once at the episode. It's the least I've laughed at an episode of Danger Mouse ever, even Tampering with Time Tickles (which I view as the worst old-DM episode) made me laugh a few times. It was the scene shortly before DM gets sprayed where him and Squawkencluck are having this quickfire-ish back-and-forth about DM forgetting Penfold's birthday, that was kinda funny. But the fact that they tried to make DM crying in itself humourous was really stupid because... It's not. It's just really sad. Him just crying isn't funny on it's own, and him being caring isn't expanding on the joke, it's just implying that DM not being a jerk is out of the ordinary and therefore worthy of laughs and/or praise. That's horrible! "Force of Nature" did a DM crying joke right with the narrator giving a contextual set up as to why DM shouldn't be crying and exaggerating the situation and then it turns out DM just had allergies, which juxtaposes what the narrator said and subverts expectations. But with "Licence to Care", there is no contextual set up to make the joke work and DM's empathetic behaviour doesn't seem as exaggerated without any set up, you could believe it's just all the sadness he's been holding in for over 20 years. You're supposed to laugh at DM's regret and misery and softer side. That's pretty messed up.
If this is some psyop to convince people to watch this show, it's working, I'm going to watch it specifically because of this thread.
The thing that bothered me the most with this episode was the (ironic) lack of empathy for Danger Mouse himself. Nobody was interested in understanding why he wasn't bothered to remember or why he was acting so harshly, they were either passive and didn't care (like Colonel K) or they instantly demonized him and used untested, experimental means to get their way (like Squawk and Penfold). Squawk's behaviour is especially annoying as, being female, she's meant to be more sensitive and would try to get to the root of DM's feelings rather than just taking everything at face value. I'm not being sexist or anything because in "There's Something About Scarlett", she emphasises how important she views the traits of being a good listener and being able to express your feelings are in a guy. And yes, in "Licence to Care" she says she "didn't want to do it" and that DM left her "no option" but that's blatantly untrue since it's never implied that they searched any other options in the first place. It's like she wanted to go to the extreme out of spite rather than resorting to it in a final attempt to help, which is weird because Penfold would've been the only one with the character motivation to do that.
>2011 dated visa is stamped over a 2012 visa
It's not Squawk's birthday so DM forgetting wouldn't personally affect her, and she's not that close to Penfold so she wouldn't get offended on his behalf. And this got me thinking... Why was Penfold so angry with Danger Mouse? Yes DM forgot his birthday and all but Penfold often holds DM in such high regards, plus DM says that he always forgets Penfold's birthday so his argument that Penfold would be used to it by now was kinda justified. Harsh, but justified. I guess DM wasn't the only one who suffered from bad writers forcing terrible characterizations. Honestly, it's all such a mess... And the ending was the icing on the cake (get it, because Penfold's birthday...? N-nevermind...). It's just a rehash of "Masters of the Twystyverse"'s ending. After promising to remember, DM forgets. Nobody learns anything, everyone is unhappy, nothing is resolved, the end. That's a wrap, good job Stephie Theodora and David Quantick! You guys really know how to ruin an episode, don't you? Also weird how one of the worst episodes had two writers instead of one. How did two people make so many poor choices? Overall a horrid, terrible episode that was so bad, it actually made me question my loyalty to nu-DM as a show for a little while.
this desu
Same. I just watched episode 1 on youtube and then watched two more on kisscartoon
And those were my top 5 worst nu-DM episodes! Sorry to keep interrupting the thread with all these walls of text and stuff!
its ok ianon-chan
This shouldnt make sense but it does and its depressin the fuck outta me
I'm going to goddamn adopt you
Adopted by Yea Forums... Awesome!
what is this? what's going on?
I don't know but it's super fun!
its the best tread on Yea Forums, that's what it is
you're scaring me
Sometimes I scare myself...
This is amazing.
wait until TTS youtubers get a load of this thread
time to porn
hush, let me savor this
one way train to whacktown
hey this is the greatest thing I've seen in a long while, completely unironically
My Danger Board, duh!
I dont even think their TTS bots could even handle this level of pure unfiltered tism.
Y'know, since a lot of people have been talking about how they want to watch the show because of this thread and everything... Maybe I should talk about what I think are the top 5 best episodes of nu-DM. Just because I really don't want to leave a sour taste in people's mouths about the show by talking about how bad the worst episodes are.
5) Yule Only Watch Twice.
Alright, listen... I would've picked Sir Danger De Mouse as my number 5 choice since it is really funny and all but... That episode didn't have an adorable Christmassy rendition of the Danger Mouse theme tune sung by DM and Penfold. I know that's a bit of a stupid reason to favour a clip episode over an actual episode, but come on! Watch it and tell me your heart didn't melt as Alexander Armstrong and Kevin Eldon got into the Christmas spirit! While they don't seem as close as David Jason and Terry Scott, they still seem like a friendly duo with some chemistry and it's nice when it shows. What makes these scenes so special as well is how much of a contrast they are to the rest of the nu-show (generally). Considering that nu-DM has the tendency to characterize DM as a cruel narcissist with no empathy, him having a friendly singalong with his best friend is way more wholesome and cute. Moments like this in nu-DM episodes should be cherished and used as evidence when criticizing bad writers' corrupt characterizations of Danger Mouse.
ah great we wound him back up again
Christ yes please
4) Danger Fan.
Ahh yes, the best episode of the entire show's history where they introduce the greatest villain ever! Heh, alright... I'm just kidding. It's a pretty funny episode, and it's weird because DM's narcissism actually kinda made sense for once. Maybe it's because it wasn't as emphasised as it usually is. He was taking his annual Danger Agent Assessment so naturally he needed to make himself look dangerous and intrepid so he'd pass with flying colours. However, after I kidnapped all his friends (and some villains) DM told the DAA guy to write what he likes implying he no longer cared whether he passed or failed, he just wanted to save his friends. That's some pretty nice character development, and it's good to see the bad writing slowly, but surely, being eroded away. Too bad the worst of nu-DM was yet to come and ruin this development, but it was a pretty satisfactory characterization. And I'll admit, choosing to represent Danger Mouse fans as obessive, bloodthirsty fanboys with evil intentions was a bold move. Not too original, I think other shows like Animaniacs did it first but with a more adult, neckbeardy approach. But it easily could've backfired and outraged the Danger Mouse fandom, so fair play to the team for making it not only work but also have me as a recurring villain. Then again, is there a Danger Mouse fandom? I never see anyone talk about the show anywhere. Not even here! Until now, obviously. Oh well, at least with a small or non-existant fandom, there's less chance of stumbling across anything childhood ruining. Anyways, I'm going a bit off topic. The episode was funny, clever and had character development that actually made sense.
3) Groundmouse Day.
The plot holes are excusable through how clever the episode is. It's also really funny watching Penfold's emotional progression throughout the episode, which I guess you could count as character development since he starts out his usual unconfident self but by the end of the episode is completely confident in his assertion of Count Duckula's nefarious plot to frame DM. There's this scene where he's experienced the reset for like the 5th time, all the secret agents are fighting and they won't listen to his explanation of what's going on, and for the 5th time a bomb rolls towards him. Instead of getting frustrated at the agents or frightened of the bomb like before, he just sits defeated next to it and casually defuses it while looking absolutely dead inside. It's brilliant! The part where Penfold realizes the only way to stop Duckula is to go back to the start of the show, as in when the show's theme song starts playing, was awesome! That whole thing was just absolutely awesome! The original could only have dreamed of pulling off a stunt like that because their low budget meant a lot of the time the animation had to be recycled. Nu-DM has plenty of money to throw at animators, and they made every frame of that fourth wall break burst with zest and innovation! I'm not going to talk about the ending. It had me laughing so hard, I nearly suffocated. If you haven't seen it, go check it out. Watch the whole episode while you're at it, it's a good one!
2) The Hamster Effect.
At first, I wasn't so sure about this one. I'd always thought Danger Mouse and Penfold had first met in a way that was... Ehh. More special than just accidentally stumbling across each other when both of them had very different career paths. But looking back, I don't really mind that this is the way the nu-DM writers wanted to go. It was a funny, energized flashback that showcases DM at his best: Confident, but not narcissistic. Strong and skilled, but not a wreckless idiot. The day he and Penfold met had already established their dynamic where he was the hero and Penfold was the sidekick. The flashback was rife with visual gags, and the episode itself broke the fourth wall in it's usual Danger Mousey way (the Stiletto one was brief but it cracked me up!). I also loved the advertisements for Brunel's terrible inventions!
Another thing I wanna talk about is DM's ability to let Penfold go. It was something I never fully acknowledged when watching this episode for the first time. It's actually really genuine, and him accepting that he can't force Penfold to be his friend was kinda emotional. Imagine having a best friend for over 20 years and then something completely out of your control tore you apart. If DM was his usual badly characterized self, he would've thrown a temper tantrum because things weren't going in his favour and forced Penfold to meet him, with Penfold never realizing the value of friendship over immense, inessential wealth and the episode ending on DM gleefully recounting everything to a miserable looking Penfold (which would've been the joke like in the endings of "Licence to Care" and "Masters of the Twystyverse") who felt he'd missed out on living the life of a millionaire. It would've been so easy to go down that route because Brunel is a villain and naturally they'd want DM to stop his evil plot and restore things back to the way they were before. The fact that they didn't go with that and actually had DM understand Penfold's perspective and give his little buddy the choice was so touching. And there's this scene where Danger Mouse has fixed the timeline but everything seems Penfold-less like before. Then Penfold rolls up in the Mark IV and DM hugs his best friend. Aww! Usually he's so against that sorta thing and finds it uncomfortable, so I guess you could even consider this character development. Or perhaps he's just exposing his softer side. There is the plot hole in why DM remembered Penfold despite Brunel making sure they never met, so technically DM shouldn't have even been aware of Penfold's existence. But I can excuse that. It's an episode with a lot of heart, with tons of laughs along the way.
Honourable Mention) For Your Insides Only.
Funny and clever, albeit a little strange, but I guess that's what Danger Mouse is all about really. DM's body was kinda gross, but that's what you'd expect from an episode like this even if the series has never done much with gross-out humour. There is some creativity in the design of DM's body, but it's nothing I haven't seen before in like Osmosis Jones or something. And it was really weird having women voice most of the DMs. Not being sexist or anything, but it was just kinda... Random. But in a "random for the sake of being random" way rather than a way that's grounded in the show and has an explanation. Penfold doesn't even mention it, it's just kinda glossed over. An example of grounded absurdity would be DM's allergy to his own heroism. The allergy is given an explanation for its cause and its existence is solidified as a part of the show's reality through humour/hilarity and relative logic. You could believe it's a thing in their world, just like a strain of elephant flu that literally turns you into an elephant. The ending was kinda cruel, but honestly it did make me laugh because it was more ironic cruelty meant as a parody of those cheesy shows that end on everyone laughing for no particular reason. And I mean, it's pretty obvious why DM almost died; Penfold literally blew up his spleen. While you can live without it, the spleen plays a crucial role in the body's ability to defend against bacterial infections. Losing it would mean having an increased risk of developing life threatening infections from common ailments, all of this is also known as overwhelming post-splenectomy infection. We better hope DM doesn't get pneumonia or anything. It was a fantastic episode by nu-DM standards, but lacking the emotional factor of my number one pick.
PLEASE CEASE
Thank you for your words of wisdom dear user
1) A Fear to Remember.
I won't praise it as the best DM episode in the history of the show, but it's definitely the most amazing of the nu-batch. Bit of a shaky start with some hit-and-miss jokes but the episode quickly picks itself up and improves drastically in quality. The visual gags were pretty entertaining too, although it's kinda weird how Squawk's had a coulrophobia relapse. Penfold hopped up on that serum is hilarious, but it's noticable that the last half of the episode has a stronger focus on emotion than gags and I think that's really special. Kinda like Cerebus Syndrome but not quite all the way there. And the music... I don't think I've properly talked about the music of the show yet. The original show didn't have a lot of original music, I think it was just the theme tune as well as its jazzed up version. The new show is different in that regard, and wonderfully so. I'm so bummed out that they haven't released a soundtrack yet. Often I'll leave Danger Mouse Infinity's level select screen on just to have the lovely orchestral version of the DM theme tune playing in the background while I'm doing stuff. The orchestral pieces in this episode were phenomenal but it wasn't just through the actual music, it was the timing and placement of the music.
Having the crescendo as Penfold overcomes his fear and proclaims himself safe and sound, much to DM's relief, was one of the most incredible and inspiring moments in the show's history. Penfold, the coward afraid of pretty much everything, finding it within himself to face his biggest fear and help save the day as well as make his chief proud. Danger Mouse, the brave guardian of the world, petrified with fear and worry over the safety of his best friend and learning to ease his constant desire to protect him at all costs. The end where DM confronts the Queen of Weevils about her fear was so clever too. In a way, it's kinda doubles as a lesson because it's true: Sometimes we have nothing to fear but fear itself. Overall, a brilliantly witty episode with a touching focus on the value of friendship and self-improvement, with an actual message that's perfectly applicable to anyone watching, whether you're a nervous kid going into primary school, a stressed out teen doing your GCSE course or an anxious adult trying to meet someone new. The shackles that hold us back from doing the things we yearn, the restraints that make us wish and want without action, are all in our heads. You're not too awkward to make friends, too dumb to revise properly or too ugly to be in a relationship. You might think you are, but you're not. What's really stopping you is that negative perception in your mind, the "can't" itself rather than the flaw you see in yourself. Self-improvement is important, but you won't get far with it if you only believe the worst of yourself. Don't be afraid of taking the next step in life, because the only thing you have to fear is the irrationality and unreasonable nature of fear itself, which is what makes you think that you can't do it or that you're not worth it.
TLDR
How long have you had these copied and pasted user
And those were my top 5 nu-DM episodes! I'm pretty stubborn on my number 1 and 2 picks, I don't think anything will ever top them. That's not to say the show won't go on to produce anything better in quality, I'm sure there are more great episodes yet to come and I can't wait to see them!
so are you finally done?
Y-yeah... Sorry about that.
Don't worry, most of us enjoyed it.
yup me too
No need to apologize bro it was a good write up, I'm gonna check these episodes out.
Awesome! I'm glad to hear that!
user, can you explain to us an episode that you would personally write for the show given the opportunity?
stop encouraging him.
>SCP-5149 Danger Fan has breached containment
Fuck you and your puritanical rules, Yea Forums. I, for one, enjoy our new autistic overlord
Shut up, stupid faggot. Someone on this fucking board FINALLY wants to actually discuss a cartoon for once and you're being a dumbfuck about it. Stop fucking posting.
Assuming you're a fellow /britfag/, I must say user:
You're a fucking disgrace, I'll break your neck
They enjoy a cartoon user whats the problem? would you prefer all of us to just fucking seed post?
The anti-fun faggots showed up. At least he already finished.
Hmmm... So many choices on what to do... Well, I think if I was to write an episode for the show, it would have a bigger focus on action and adventure. I don't feel like the show fully embraces it's action genre label, like when I talked about "Crouching Hamster Hidden Wagon" earlier. I'd want to make something as expansive as "Custard" but not too much to grasp in just 11 minutes. I'd also want there to be more focus on the main characters' backgrounds. Specifically Danger Mouse. To go into more detail, I'm not quite sure plot-wise. But perhaps something involving him actually getting over his insecurities or at least coming clean to someone. Heck, maybe even an explanation for the eyepatch. It would've been great to have an episode that finally revealed his left eye, but "Danger Fan" sorta ruined it. Still, having those extra details would be nice and make him a more sympathetic character.
You'd think someone like me would write fan episodes all the time, but honestly I don't think I'm that good of a writer. I don't think I have the ability to fully capture the true personality of the characters or the absurdity of the show itself, and I'm not good at writing comedy.
>Thinking its even halfway over.
We still have to get to bump limit user
how many hrnn files do you have
>The shackles that hold us back from doing the things we yearn, the restraints that make us wish and want without action, are all in our heads. You're not too awkward to make friends, too dumb to revise properly or too ugly to be in a relationship. You might think you are, but you're not. What's really stopping you is that negative perception in your mind, the "can't" itself rather than the flaw you see in yourself. Self-improvement is important, but you won't get far with it if you only believe the worst of yourself. Don't be afraid of taking the next step in life, because the only thing you have to fear is the irrationality and unreasonable nature of fear itself, which is what makes you think that you can't do it or that you're not worth it.
fuck thats kind of inspiring in spite of it coming from a hazard rodent obsessed retard
Well, I didn't know about the duplicate file thing until I started posting, so I tried to counter it by creating new files with different names. Then I realized I could just tweak the size of the file without making a new one and it'd let me post. So before I had loads of them, but now I only have about 32.
>pink butterfly
femanon?
Can't a guy like pink butterflies?
>I resorted to using pixel-by-pixel measurements to see the actual position of the pupil in relation to the sclera
>On average, party hats are 4.92 inches. I'll round that up to 5 inches. I drew a triangle over the hat so it was the same size, rotated it to be straight instead of tilting at an angle, and pasted it multiple times from the bottom of kid DM's body up to the top of his ears. I also rotated the hats to match the angles his legs were laid out at so I could measure his leg size from the bottom of his feet to where his body starts.
>I managed to fit 2 whole hats and two thirds of a hat from body to ears, and about half a hat for each leg. So: 5 × (2 + 2/3 + (1/2 × 2)) = 18.3333333333. Kid DM is approximately 18.3 inches tall. Convert that to feet and you get 1.525ft.
Sure they can
I'm insanely impressed that you've kept this up for 9 hours, Ianon. You seem new because of your optimism. God bless you, corgiboy.
9 hours?! Jeez, time really does fly when you're having fun.
What if Danger Mouse saw this thread
Probably realize this kid broke out of jail and is now dumping his manifesto before he strikes.
Like that incident with that one tripfag from Yea Forums UTV or some shit.
>Ian, look...
>I really don't appreciate you barging into HQ like this all the time to ask me about my love life
>It's as if you want to know if I'm single or...
>...Ian...? You're not...?
He'd probably be like you guys. Scared yet intrigued at how I know all this stuff.
That didn't happen! I already told you guys! I'm not gay! Danger Mouse isn't gay either, so give it a rest!
methinks he doth protest too much
I NEED MORE INTERNALIZED HOMOPHOBE IAN
What is this thread? You can call this an ice cold take, I don't give a fuck. If OP wasn't LARPing as a gay dog, everyone would agree this thread is total autistic cringe. There's nothing based or blessed about a crippling obsession with a garbage cartoon.
dude he's not gay didn't you read the thread
No fun allowed
Please see
Three things:
-should I watch Danger Mouse? be honest.
-is there childish humor or wacky tongue-in-cheek style humor?
-how cute is the corgi in show?
fuck off retard, go back to fuck your dilated frog wife
Wow. What an...interesting thread.
Well, thanks for the honesty. It's better to have a mix of opinions than for us all to be saying the same thing.
Yes you should watch the show! I think it's better to start with the original as there are a few references in the new show that you might not get, but the original has like 10 seasons so I'd understand if you didn't wanna watch all that. But honestly, I've watched all 10 seasons (as well as both seasons of the new show) multiple times and they're really worth it. Almost all of the time, it's really intelligent and well-written. It'll definitely make you laugh.
It's a mix of both, but nu-DM has a stronger focus on childish humor. Don't let that put you off, though, as it usually depends on the episode.
I'm as cute as a button! Heh... I'm alright. A bit temperamental and possessive, but I'm getting that under control in time for season 3.
Secret Squirrel > Danger Mouse
Wtf its this? a cute puppy perhabs
if this is getting capped include me in the screencap fagit
Based
>outer core
what?
is there gay porn of that dog character?
you guys scared away Ian with your gay accusations. Thanks a lot
Well, I believe that Danger Mouse has three "cores". He has the "outer core", which is the side he intentionally showcases on a daily basis. Y'know, strong and cocky and dangerous. Then there's the "centre core", which is a slightly more insecure side that only gets shown when he breaks or has moments of weakness, like in "The World Wide Spider". Being doubtful, hesitant and stuff. Then he has his "Inner Core", which is his innermost insecurities and fears that he actively attempts to hide. Being self-conscious and afraid, and feeling worthless and useless. Conveniently, I've named them the "Three Cores of Danger Mouse". I believe the only way to truly access Danger Mouse's feelings is to go through these cores starting from the "outer core".
I should hope not! What is it with you guys and gay stuff? Eww.
Not yet but it will when you make it
>strong and cocky and dangerous
just the way you like em, champ
>there are definitely drawfags lurking or posting 'cause they posted art earlier
>none of them are posting ianxdangermouse
absolute disgraces, the lot of you
I'm not in love with Danger Mouse! I'm not!
I actually could, though DM ain't cute and I don't wanna ruin the autism.
cope harder, faggot
It's rather infuriating that this is probably the longest Danger Mouse thread we've had on Yea Forums.
Good thread and here is a chicken for you.
....but why Danger Mouse of all shows?
fuck off we're not lewding the corgi for your pedo ass
if you want it so badly then draw it yourself
>British furries
By the time I feel like it the thread will be dead. It's probably the same for other drawfags but who knows.
Nah. Anthro doesn't mean furry.
what would you have preferred a DM thread to be about?
My fucking sides
Objectively wrong
Not really. Anthropomorphism is an ancient concept so it's not like furries invented it. Also, furries are a community based around the concept, and being one means self-identifying as such. You can like anthros without being a furry. I like to use the fingers and thumbs rule when it comes to this stuff. Y'know, all thumbs are fingers but not all fingers are thumbs. All furries are anthros, but not all anthros are furries.
ian likes to use his fingers and thumbs on danger mouse confirmed
this is what i came here for
Based
>Danger Mouse's real name is Dennis
>Absolutely no context or reasoning
Well...not this.
Jeez louise, you guys don't quit, do ya?
Heh, that theory's still a work in progress. Nothing too solid yet.
Are you a gay furry?
No!!
>autistic headcanon out the ass
>danger mouse being shipped with another male character
>squawkposting
this is every fucking dm thread ever
Don't forget
>that one autist screeching about the older show being automatically better
Heh, well it was really great meeting most of you! This has been so much fun! I gotta go to bed, but maybe I'll make another DM thread in the future. Or if this one is still alive when I come on tomorrow, I'll post another Danger Mouse theory! Well, night guys!
Bye, thanks for posting bud
good night
Thank you for making my day user
g'night mad corgi lad
goodbye qt corgi boi
>most of you
Which one of you fuckers hurt Ianon
based
Good night, sleep tight
>Tfw ianon may never return
>Tfw we may never get a thread this wholesome ever again
now hes gone can we lewd him?
This thread is going to perish now, just watch
god bless
Hope this survives for the night and the drawings made get on the booru
don't let this gold die, damn it
You are a fascinating creature, you gay furry.
I agree, this episode was funny and adorable at the same time.
My favorite episodes in my opinion.
>Oh look! A board named after me!
Later...
>I say, DM, fancy one of my freshly baked brownies?
Hoping to see Ianon return
Guess who's back!
So, you guys were promised a theory. I might as well deliver.
So this is picking up from the esotropia stuff I talked about earlier in the thread and the root of Danger Mouse's insecurities. First off, I'm going to clarify that Danger Mouse was not homeschooled because in S1E48 "High School Inedible" DM tells Penfold about his fond memories at high school and in S2E39 "Melted" DM is clearly performing in a school play. You might argue he could've been homeschooled instead of going to primary school and then he went to high school, but I'll get onto that in a moment. "Attack of the Clowns" confirms that DM had the eyepatch as a really young child, so he would've had it when starting school. It made him different to the other kids and made him stick out from day one. There is a good chance that DM got bullied for having an eyepatch and that's why he's insecure about it as an adult, he still has that sense of shame instilled in him. But I dunno... Seems a little surface level. Well, perhaps DM never took the eyepatch off in spite of the bullying because of his loving nanny and how proud she was of him. And maybe DM never told his nanny (or any adult really) about the bullying because he didn't want to worry or disappoint her, especially after he'd seen how stressed she was trying to find a solution to his esotropia in the first place.
we are truly blessed
But something, or someone, did something good to him. Maybe they became friends with him, or maybe they stopped the bullies from picking on DM. Maybe they said some kind words of encouragement. Whatever happened, it gave DM this newfound confidence. And he saw an opportunity in a musical play the school was organizing: Phantom of the Opera. DM was a good candiate after all. He was intelligent enough to remember his lines and actions, he was a decent singer (for a kid) and since he didn't have a busy social life and his nanny did all the housework DM had plenty of time to spare for rehearsals.
This is where I'm gonna talk about where this play happens. DM in the musical flashback is only a little bigger than the 3 month - 1 year old DM at the party. But reception doesn't really do proper musicals, usually it's just those Nativity plays where everyone has equal roles. So it would be fair to say DM is in primary school doing that play. You might think Phantom of the Opera is a bit of a deep play that's only suitable for high school students but if you search it up, a lot of primary schools permit the play (Threlkeld and Perins just to name a couple).
But here's where you might try to argue again. The reason DM was bullied so much after doing that play is because his voice broke while he was singing. Surely that indicates puberty, so he must be in high school? Nah. Well, it does indicate puberty. For boys, puberty often starts between 12 and 16 years old. High school years, yes, but hear me out. DM has developed at a pretty fast rate in comparison to other kids. I think an argument can be made that DM was an early bloomer and that he started going through puberty in the middle of his primary years. This would also explain why he was bullied so relentlessly and why it mentally scarred him. Once again, he'd become the one who was different to all the other kids. Just after he'd finally stepped up and been confident and done something he could take pride in, it backfires. And he blames himself even though it was something that happened completely out of his control, he couldn't help it. Kinda like his esotropia, making him feel like he's back to square one again. And because most of the other kids weren't experiencing the same things DM was, they're not going to understand or feel any empathy. I'm not denying that bullying in high school is a thing (it probably happened to DM), and I know that high schoolers often do make fun of people who have voice cracks, it's not the same harsh and ceaseless cruelty because someone going through the same thing would have at least a small degree of empathy, or at least would acknowledge the hypocrisy in mocking it as a teenager going through puberty too and therefore tone it down.
But then, wouldn't all of this be contradicted by what DM said in "High School Inedible?" where he recalls bullying the nerdy kids? Yes, unless DM lied. We're back to the masculinity and concerns about perceptions thing again. DM would never admit to being the outcasted loser because it would make him look weak. Of course he's going to assume the position of what is essentially the alpha wolf of the school pack - the bully with the massive friend group who torments the kids who can't or won't defend themselves. He might also never admit to being the outcasted loser because he despises that portion of his childhood and doesn't want to relive the real memories of what it was like. He seems to use his "ego" to cope because if he doesn't and he remembers what really happened, you get a situation like in "Melted" where he's having nightmare-like, realistic (to him) flashbacks that make him so distressed he faints at one point. Also, him getting up pretty quickly doesn't mean he faked it or exaggerated, syncope usually only lasts seconds or minutes.
But hold on, doesn't DM overcome his hatred of musicals by the end of "Melted" and kinda come to terms with his bad experience? Not really. DM just pretends he has for Penfold's sake. When Penfold asks DM if he'll go and see Melted 2: Even Meltier with him, DM hesitates for a brief moment, then smiles and says "Absolutely". It was pretty insincere. Furthermore, Penfold doesn't doubt or question him since Danger Mouse has gotten over negative feelings about stuff before, most prominently Lionel the Spider. But that's because Penfold doesn't understand how deeply rooted DM's emotions towards musicals are in comparison to his fixable irrational fear of spiders. The arachnophobia was easy to fix because there's nothing to suggest DM had a traumatic experience with spiders. In fact, no real reason was given for it at all, maybe implying it was just social conditioning like most of us (although seeing a spider in the shower is a lot creepier when it has the same size and intelligence as you, I'm still not quite sure why he was there in the first place since he clearly doesn't live at HQ and why DM was seen as weird for finding it disturbing). When DM's mind recreated that part of the musical where originally he'd embarrassed himself, and he succeeded in singing the song without messing it up, he wasn't getting over it. It was just another coping mechanism, a bit like when you have a bad or awkward experience with someone and think about what you should've said or done but know it's in the past and you have to accept that there's nothing you can do about it. He wanted one last shot at impressing his classmates and teachers, just one more try at earning their approval and acceptance. But it's too late. As soon as it had phased in, it phased out again. It's unfortunate the episode didn't show DM's reaction after the flashback recreation, it probably was brief disappointment in himself before he returned to singing with Pink Dawn to save the world.
So yeah. I think DM was bullied so badly in school (due to his eyepatch and then his voice break) that it traumatized him. It would explain a lot of his behaviour in nu-DM, and his occasional emotional cracks in old-DM when he felt hopeless.
Here we go again
Heh, don't panic user! I'm done for now.
how/why do you know so much about danger mouse
He's awesome and he's my hero! Why wouldn't I want to know everything about him?
Ayyy
I thought you were talking about /k/ for a minute and I was so confused lol
Is this real or an edit
Never have I been so happy to see a Yea Forums post
This thread
It's real all right. Real weird. I wonder what the writers could've meant by that.
replicating the style and quality of both shows was a nice touch
This shits why I got off adderall. I'm having weird flashbacks.
>granny Penfold's evil granny juices
excuse me?
ya'll got any DM reaction images?
No but I have this
good lord
I'm fucking dying here OP, just when I think a board has gone to shit this happens.
Don't ever post that again, user.
The pathetic DangerIan virgin vs the superior DangerK chad
please stop youre giving me PTSD flashbacks to that inspection day fanfic
I'm your daddy now
Why do you guys feel the need to dump your gross gay stuff on my thread? Why don't you take it somewhere else?
You've piqued my interest user. Go on.
>hurt
>implying wanting wholesome corgi lewds is harmful
ok retard
>monthly inspection at the danger agency
>DM called into K's office
>K molests the shit out of him
>DM is uncomfortable disgusted and on the verge of tears the whole time
>ending says DM is the only one who gets inspected
>ending also says this has been happening for years
This thread just gets better and better
Oh yeah, I just thought. I wonder who specifically bullied DM and where they are now. I mean... Imagine if you were a bully and years later when everyone's grown up and stuff you found out the kid you picked on at school became the world's greatest secret agent and saves the planet, including you, time and time again. You'd feel awful, right? I wonder if any of DM's school bullies had the courage to apologize to him eventually.
how am i meant to enjoy this without any sauce
Seconding for drawfags if there are any left
I've seen worse.
tell me OP, how many hours of sleep did you get? this month?
I usually get about 8 hours sleep per night, so this month that's like 240 hours of sleep. But sometimes when I'm working on a theory, I just can't sleep. Not even pulling myself away from my monitor or Danger Board works, I physically can't sleep with all these ideas jumping around inside my head or if something's got me stumped. Finding out who Fifi was did deprive me of sleep a little bit, but it wasn't anything damaging.
god i wish i were ashley
There are Yea Forums Youtubers? What the fuck
holy mother of autism
Why are you spamming my thread, user?
I agree with you Ianon, I very much appreciate series that can show childhood traumatizing extend into insecurity during childhood
he's wants to ensure this gets archived quicker?
Naww, haha! I was having a really nice time talking with you guys! It's a shame that the thread's gotta die, but that's life I suppose. It can't go on forever.
Don't worry. Even if this thread dies, I want you to come back and make a new thread.
like firecrackers on the fourth of july, what a blast
Heh, sure thing user! I'm still working on a lot of theories currently. Some of them are really deep and might take days or even weeks to crack. But once I've got something, I'll be sure to post if that's what ya wanna see!
by god this thread is still going.
Does that dog appear often in the show?
If so then I am watching the hell of it, he looks so goddamn cute.
Ianon, you’ve brightened the day of many anons, feel free to post more Danger Mouse theories in the future. We love you.
only one i think
I've appeared in a lot of episodes! There are three in particular that I've had a main role in: "Danger Fan", "Crumfan" and "Roll of the Mice"!
Thanks dude, I am going to have a blast watching them.
just give into it ianaon
We all know DM will eventually
I have to say, as an amerifag whos never heard of this show before this thread, I now have a new favourite show
>oh really...
>DIDJA SEE THIS COMING?
you were unbelievably badass in crumfan desu
This. I adore wholesome Ian but villain Ian is pure kino.
numbers of times old DM has been called daddy: 0
numbers of times new DM has been called daddy: 2
the jury's out, mate
Imagine not wanting to fuck Penfold
one of you twats needs to write this
We've had our fair share
Weird thread, but I guess it's something!
what episode is that.
S2E23 "The Scare Mouse Project".
i can't find it. it says s2e23 is thanks a minion.
Huh? Where's it say that? "Thanks a Minion" is from season 1. I found it on Youtube if you're willing to watch it there:
youtube.com
Oh yeah, the uploader posts them one "screen" at a time which is why the embedded video cuts off. If you copy-paste the link into your URL bar, you can watch the full playlist and see the entire episode.
netflix has it as s2e23
Looks like we're at the image limit, user. See you next time.
goodbye ianon, this was a based thread
>KISS ME DANGEROUSLY
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im going to fuckig cry
image to ascii converter?
based hiro wont give us the character limit :(
i managed to make a converted image fit into the character limit but i have no idea if it'll appear correctly. oh well...
...oh and the system thinks it's spam, so no dice.
samefag as here, i'm not ianon
what? this was my follow up post are you suggesting i was talking to myself?
we can just describe the images like the spergs we are
whats the maximum file size you can upload on Yea Forums
300.
i meant resolution
4chanX says maxes are 4MB and 10000x10000px
ah k, i thought it was 2048x2048. im trying to screencap this majesty
unless someone's done it already
this guy is up there with the secret show collector for dedication
although OP is quite clearly bonkers I'll let it pass
some one better make a pic like this for this thread