What went wrong with the Simpsons?

What went wrong with the Simpsons?

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>Almost by any measure
>Has only been good for three seasons max

Le Drumpfy man BAD

>It's hard to think that this is the same show that gave us "Do it for for her", and "you are Lisa Simpson"
Those aren't songs though.

I don't recall them ever being THIS pointed towards a politician. They made fun of Bush Sr. as a neighbor, the made fun of Bill Clinton and Bob Dole as aliens, I don't remember them making fun of W. Bush but they made fun of some of the Patriot Act stuff and I don't think they ever made fun of Obama.

time to burn my simpson merch.

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>It's even the music. Think of the classic Simpsons pastiches of the past, from See My Vest to Dr Zaius to Talkin' Softball – they all managed to do the similar-enough-without-being-a-cover thing this is going for, and none of them sounded as off-key and half-arsed as this. Longtime composer Alf Clausen was fired from the show in 2017 – he claims it was for financial reasons (and is currently suing Fox), and watching this, he really seems like he was worth every penny.

livestream it

Conan left. It was downhill after 1994

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Nice like/dislike ratio.

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As a leftie """commie"" myself this was painful to watch.

>not saving all the Apu merch that the lefties want destroyed
pleb

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GRINGLEY WONDRO!!!!!!

>the made fun of Bill Clinton and Bob Dole as aliens

Hell there was even Saddlesore Galactica, which people hated, that had Clinton going "Hey, I'm a pretty lousy President!"

That’s my problem with it.
With past presidents they’ve been creative but with Trump? Just look at this shit.

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>it's just... well... it's very poor. Very poor

Why do these people always talk like this, where they're always so hesitant to just fucking say what they think or feel

To think i use to put this up my ass.

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You're just... well.... you're just upset about it.

it's written in a way someone who's very disappointed would say it

They have being bad for more than a decade, the only good thing that could happen is, getting it cancel, and make a movie or special with a bunch of good writters that want to make something good instead of just keep draining the thing

>for more than a decade
>only a decade
Check a calendar sometime.

I just feel like a lot of this is really artificial.

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Shh, it'll be shocking for him to realize that two decades passed instead of one, break it to him gently

>Making fun of Bush while he was president
Haha yeah he is kind of a doofus
>Making fun of Obama while he was president
Haha yeah he does talk weirdly like that
>Making fun of Trump
WOW HOW DARE YOU INSULT BASED TRUMP YOU BLUEPILLED LIBTARD

I'm overexaggerating obviously, but videos making fun of the previous presidents never got this extreme a downvote brigade

The Simpsons did not make fun of Obama and YouTube only started at the tail end of Bush's presidency

Why are those random girls so hard to understand?
>You're greasing the palm with the mall you ments

I am more bothered by the group that the simpsteins are portraying as being positive.

Because the left is utterly, utterly terrified of policing their own side. Both out of fear of being excomunicated after to stepping on someone's enormous ego, or because they weren't enough of a hardline zealot, or because they have a battered wife relationship with their own ideology and causes, where they can never be flat out wrong and bad if their intentions were good.

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AOC so dumb she got fired from the M&M factory for throwing out all the W's

Because there's nothing more embarrassing or distasteful nowadays as having taste and commitment

They made a short about Mueller too.

Man, remember when everybody loved Mueller because he was going to find the smoking gun that would confirm Trump's impeachment, imprisonment, and public execution?

People were calling Bush an idiot as early as 2001, get the fuck out.

>Defending this shit

This.
Trump is a retard but actually imagine believing AOC or Kamala Harris is any better.

Imagine thinking that the peak of the simpsons is its sermonising.

>Simpsons might be worse than Trump, Himself.

Fixed the title.

>Because the left is utterly, utterly terrified of policing their own side.
That's ironic.

Your Z is showing

You're focusing on them calling Trump dumb orange man and not the part where they are endorsing AOC, a woman who wants to pass a 70 trillion dollar tax increase and make gasoline powered car, flight travel, and cows illegal by 2030.

The peak was sneed and you now it.

>Boris Johnson without the class

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>cows illegal
Someone watches fox news

It's written as if it were speech. These hacks are not journalists.

>That's ironic.
Yes, because they love policing the other! :^)

I'm not defending anything, just pointing out the ridiculousness that there is a backlash against what is just an unfunny bit in a show everybody already knows had its quality go down the drain years ago.

>but videos making fun of the previous presidents never got this extreme a downvote brigade
Because the internet wasn't as big as it was when Bush was in and Obama didn't get made fun of on the Simpsons, not hard to comprehend

Because all the trump jokes have been beaten to death since before he was actually president. Plus the Democrats are presented like they were written by Lisa Simpson being extra preachy.

I have not seen a single dem/lib/lefty say this was funny

Yes, her Green New Deal would make it illegal to raise cattle for beef, my little leftist.

AOC is good example of the shitty retarded incompetent politicians who make promises they can't make come true.

When I first saw it, it actually had more like than dislikes, of course by just a few thousand.

I don't know american politics who is muller and what happened

It's a shame, the actual song is pretty on-point and nuanced, it pretty much says the American dream isn't true, but the land clearly does has SOMETHING to offer. The male singer is the skeptic to the woman's optimist, and the whole song is good-natured banter between the two ending in an affirmation of their personal relationship

>Woman: Everything's alright in America!
>Man: If you're all white in America!

>Man: I like the City of Saint Juan
>Woman: I know a boat you can get on!
>Man: When I go home they all will cheer
>Woman: When you go home they'll all be here!

>Man: Everywhere grime in America, Organized crime in America, terrible time in America!
>Woman: You forget I'M in America

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The only one of these that's funny and actually like a caricature is DeBlasio.
did they have different interns design each of these?
Why would you do that?

>I was put one mornin' where the sun didn't shine
>grabbed like a shovel made an asshole feel fine

>They made a short about Mueller too.
youtube.com/watch?v=_YCGFLhrMkk

He was the guy who investigated a lot of claims against trump, he worked for the fbi. His testimony was being hailed by both sides as the second coming of christ(in pog form) and when we finally got it it was a whole shitload of nothing.

wh-what's the donut for?

so maybe he did nothing, is that so hard to imagine?

The Simpsons writers swear by the old saying "Write what you know." Turns out the sum of their knowledge is solely concerned with assaulting deceased horses.

I don't think he did anything until there's evidence. I'm not who you were replying to, though.

>Woman: You forget I'M in America
Man: Get my dick wet in America!

To the best of my knowledge The Simpsons has never made fun of Dubya.

Mueller Report

>trump didn't collude
>trump obstructed me
>made no recommendations either way

Democrats were expecting Mueller to drag the entire trump administration into jail. Allowing pelosi to be president.

The brilliant dem strategy to beat Trump in 2020: Fill the media with such garbage anti-Trump content that people say fuck it and vote him out of office so they don't have to see this shit anymore

>puerto rico needs help
maybe not have a shitty scumbag leader its an embarrassing place to live

>To the best of my knowledge The Simpsons has never made fun of Dubya.

Yeah I tried looking through the wiki but he's not there.

Family Guy took shots at Dubya though.

I would just re vote him out of spite for all the nonsense they are doing.I triggered by the fact that many of these leftys are going to have mental breakdowns if he wins again. Nobody should be on suicide watch because that person or this person is now the president.

Its partly because of shit like this that helped him win in the first place though

Man even the other Trump Simpsons videos weren't as disliked as this.

I wish Simpsons ended with the movie, now they want a sequel. The cast is dying, and they want more.

It does not, it aims for a net-zero greenhouse gas emissions eventually, which does not even require eliminating all greenhouse gas emissions. On top of this having nothing to do with raising cows for beef, it doesn't even directly mention cows, or even necessarily imply reducing their number:
>...working collaboratively with farmers and ranchers in the United States to remove pollution and greenhouse gas emissions from the agricultural sector as much as is technologically feasible, including— (i) by supporting family farming; (ii) by investing in sustainable farming and land use practices that increase soil health; and (iii) by building a more sustainable food system that ensures universal access to healthy food.

So no, it would not "make it illegal to raise cattle for beef", my dear trumptard

Trump is naturally a lovable doofus, which makes it hard to bully him and make a joke of it at the same time.

>made fun of Obama
But black man can't do wrong!!!

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That crowd throwing such an autistic bitch fit when Trump won was hilarious and I am kind of hoping he wins again because of this crap

Or maybe not get treated as a debt slave by companies after the US stopped propping them up as their model colony.
A State could get out of the shit they are in, but the law has bound them to crippling debt without the ability to file bankruptcy.

>Show that started as a satire of American society in the 90's is now a shilling machine for politicians and celebrities

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The problem is Simpson writers lost their more lefty edge and became soft fuck liberals instead.

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Huge farming subsidies to farm how the government says.

Healthy food is already cheap and available. Poor people just skip the produce, dry goods, and canned goods for processed box/frozen crap because its faster.

>Mao Ze-Dong

lol, do you get it?

>Tortured and killed more landlords then the Holocaust: the man

>>Making fun of Obama while he was president
They never make fun of Obumer!!!

It is well explained in this video youtu.be/KqFNbCcyFkk

Use your imagination.

I didn't watch The Simpsons much during the Obama years but I feel that they weren't the type of shows to make fun of the sitting president. They presented politicians as pop culture caricatures rather than political ones.

Obama is the only president who make a slam dunk and say the word nigger.

What's with all the Epstein comments? Redpill me on this.
I could care less when other videos making fun of Trump, but it's absolute cringe when they support someone as dumb as AOC and the "squad". And also all these democratic candidates who in reality are at each other's necks are doing the Can Can. Are their legs all CG?

No show can stay good forever, and it’s not sensible to expect it to. It just should have been cancelled years ago when its relevance had passed.

Everyone who says ”they became more liberal” etc. is wrong. The real reason is that the original staff is no longer working on the show. This is how it’s been since the late 90s and most people here probably weren’t even born before the downfall of this once amazing cartoon.

Still doesn't say anything about making cows illegal in any capacity, trumptard. Are you gonna keep changing the topic or will you actually admit that you've based your opinions off of some random trump tweets or the daily stormer or whatever far-right 'news' source you prefer?

But somehow lefties believe "He was classy and never did anything wrong!"

Groening was on the flight list to Pedo Island a few times and there's a picture of him playing with someone's feet.

...he's literally black

Jesus, who wrote this article? Did one of you fags do this? One of those sites that lets you write your own shit? No human being could've done thiswl without it being a joke.
>still the greatest show of all time
My heart shit itself.

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It did before it got widespread and made AOC look like an idiot. Then she scrubbed it from all the sites with it up and claimed they were all doctored copies even though they were taken from her website.
>washingtonexaminer.com/news/congress/the-mysterious-case-of-aocs-scrubbed-green-new-deal-details

>What's with all the Epstein comments? Redpill me on this.
Groening has been reported as flying on one of Epstein's planes and receiving a foot massage. It's a relatively weak happening compared to the rest of the accusations against Epstein, of course, but it's enough to meme on.

you're thinking of liberals. lefties hate obama.

>but I feel that they weren't the type of shows to make fun of the sitting president.

They did though. See

protip massage is a euphemism

>and there's a picture of him playing with someone's feet.

I thought that was Tarantino?

it would just make meat/dairy really expensive.

You're right, my mistake.

>Another unbased and cringepilled attack against the best president ever? To arms, my fellow magapedes!

>receiving a foot massage
In other words, he fucked someone.
You can't be this green.

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>What's with all the Epstein comments? Redpill me on this.

Matt Groening's name turned up on that court document and he got a foot massage from one of Epstein's girls while on a flight on Epstein's plane. Supposedly the girl that talked about this only negative thing to say about Groening was the bad condition of his feet, and had far worse to say about other Hollywood people.

That said even though there may be nothing to it, it's pretty easy for everyone to bring it up on account of things like this video, the Michael Jackson controversy, and that one writer who was talking about Lisa's sexuality.

>Corey Booker
>doesn't look like Keegan Michael Key

They had one job.

>Foot massage meant something else! Even though the court documents were specifying feet.

Are you really defending some jerk off who literally just referred to himself as "the chosen one" and king of Israel or some shit? No wonder the US is a laughingstock now.

>the Michael Jackson controversy, and that one writer who was talking about Lisa's sexuality.
Wait what the hell is this all about?

Actually according to woman Matt was really nice and they didn't do anything sexual
He just has very gross and cracked toenails
She said it made her sick
Lisa Simpson's feet

>receiving a foot massage
>"receiving"
>""foot""
>"""massage"""

>its impossible for someone to lie to a court to cover up illegal or embarrassing happenings
>this has never happened before

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But we can't get angry at someone who wants to help small farmers, curb company overreach against them, make farming more sustainable and invest in infrastructure.
Although, curbing beef farming is a very good first step, actually.
It's a huge methane polluter and uses incredible amounts of water.
Lab-grown beef would likely be more sustainable and less contaminated with meds.
Also other animals could be promoted instead, which could be less environmentally burdensome.
Like lamb, chicken etc.
And let's be real: Less meat is a good idea for health, too.
So programs to incentivise more vegetable-heavy meals in schools and other government facilities as well as cafeterias may do national health a lot of good.
All you gotta do is have a national fund that subsidises meals under strict dietary guidelines, and communities and companies will apply an environmentally and medically advantageous policy on their own.
Which will be a steal, compared to rising healthcare and disaster relief costs, not to mention military spending and favors for the rich.

sneed formerly cuck

This is a story that came from the main accuser. She was the one who massaged his feet. She said they were disgusting, but she got an original drawing signed by Matt in the end.

So it's really more of an anecdote in the end.

real talk if you think trump is walking away form 2020 with anything but a landslide victory, you have lost your fucking mind. even when there were 101 nominees for republican candidate 95% of the time was devoted to talking about trump while current democratic candidates are just a giant mess with no clear leader.

Him being anywhere close to Epstein is in and of itself suspect.

They are absolute cowards willing to eat and be apologetic towards any turd that is politically on "their side"

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>where they're always so hesitant to just fucking say what they think or feel
Cancel culture does that to you.

>You're greasing your palms with emolmuments

I didn't think the song was okay, but this skit's only saving grace was the chorus line of who's-who democrats.

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Hey let's just have the ruling class dictate what the masses eat.

I dont understand how nobody seems to fucking get that all you need to do to beat trump is fine someone who is better and that everyone likes.

Thats it.

Thats literally all you need to do. Thats it. Its a two step process. Is he better? Is he likable? If yes to both, then he'll win.

But they keep fucking it up by propping up fuckers like Biden or Cortez and colluding against literally fucking anyone else who could even potentially have a real shot. Why?

Are they retarded?

Isn't that perjury?

>fine
find, rather.

Yeah.

>Are they retarded?

Yes.

>IMPEACH BLUMPF
>BEFORE HE GOES NICLEAR DRUMPF
>LETS FACE IT
>HE RACIST
>HE GOT MANSIONS AND MONEY
>SKIN ORANGE, DAT FUNNI
>EM READY
>MOMS SPAGHETTI!!!!!!!!

user, there is less then no reason for the methane released from cows to not be bottled and sold.
None.
Lastly, the THREE large boats that deliver the crap that you're eating from across the world pollutes the earth more then every single vehicle on the road combined.

Do you even read the shit you link yourself? It clearly says that the 'doctored documents' thing was in reference to the edits made to include recycling piss. She even tweeted out herself admitting that the removed documents from the blog were early drafts.

Most hilariously though, even if you disregard all that, those drafts still don't say anything about making cows illegal

Like Roy Moore

Leftists wanted him dead for prosecuting Hillary

Then they loved him for prosecuting Trump after their opinion controlling man Colbert scolded them on TV for hating him

Now they hate him again for not finding anything on Trump

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Because winning isn't what it is all about, it's too much driven by internal politics and ego. Look at the Hillary campaign and look at their slogan.

It's a good thing though, if the DNC and GOP wised up, dropped the ego and approached the whole election issue in a calm and collected fashion, things would be much, much worse.

No.
They'll keep trying to push that evil monsterous racist possible pedo cunt hilary or whatever eqally evil republican they can pull out of their ass from the legisliative class of america to run.

They don't want someone with potential to do something that they can't shout down like trump in office again.
Hell I still don't know why Trump was placed into office in the first place.

So, she gets pimped out to Groening and then proceeds to perjure herself in court? Guys, sometimes a foot massage is just a damned foot massage.

Man, when they release Epsteins little black book, all of Colberts defenders will dissapear from the net.

This is true, though at the same time being a dumbass going "foot message meant something else you guys!" even though it was Epstein's accuser saying that, in a recorded document, is smoothbrained level. If she thought he was guilty she wouldn't have hesitated to say so.

Any politician that claim to care about climate change/global warming without suggesting focus on nuclear power energy is lying and just after either money, power or both. We're in no immediate threat from global warming, there's no actual scientists that seriously think we're going to end up in catastrophe within the next few decades. It's going to take hundreds of years at least, and that's assuming we somehow doesn't advance technologically and reduce omissions and whatnot that way.

It's good to want to think about the environment but the current "Debate" are basically just filled with fanatics that accept no nuance with global warming. Claim that others are ignoring science while they themselves haven't bothered reading anything.

When the documentary about Michael Jackson got released, Simpsons people disavowed the episode that Jackson guested in and pulled it out of circulation.

And then later there was some article where one of the Simpsons writers got interviewed and asked about what Lisa's sexual orientation will be in the future or something like that.

What the fuck are you even talking about?

clit cushion

They made fun of his dad but not Dubya

Technically, they made fun of his policies. I remember an episode where they made fun of the Patriot Act.

Man people got triggered hard on this one.

It's all a trojan horse.

The environment is just an excuse to gain control. Look how the gnd and its imitators talk about racial injustices and other woke shit.

I haven't seen a single "environmentalist" talk about electrification of the railroads. Which is really low hanging fruit. Proven solid technology and easily calculated costs and timelines. Eliminating billions of gallons of diesel and millions of gallons of engine oil.

It's been going on for far too long.

Fair enough, but mocking a policy doesn't equate to mocking them directly.

Thing is, healthy food is time consuming and laborious to produce.
Ubiquitous fast food is incredibly more appealing if you work long hours.
And learning to cook well takes effort and requires procurement of information that is unlike coke commercials not thrust at you.
Poor people raised on bad food seldomly rise above such habits.
That's why it's important to make people grow up with as much healthy food as possible to form good habits and healthy expectations of meals (i.e. less meat and sugar, more fresh produce, lower calory counts)
Human nature is self-destructive in the context of a rich society, so junk food has to be reduced in its appeal and kept from becoming the predominant meal of children.
One way to do that is taxing sugar and other sweeteners while promoting simple, affordable, healthy cooking to the lower classes in order to increase confidence and skill in the area.
Which could lead to resistance if handled poorly because idiots gonna idiot and try to justify their bad habits as lived freedom, while breathing heavily from the exertion.

I once suggested schools should teach cooking, driving, sewing and some basic economics and law instead of bullshit like calculus but people said i was a fascist for wanting to 'force' kids into labor. I didn't even include political theory or gun safety in there.

Seems people get really upset when you suggest they shouldn't pretend they're going to be math/science geniuses fresh out of high school that won't need to take care of all aspects of their lives.

Sneed spinoff (formarly full series) is the only way to save the simpsons

I don't like Trump either but honestly I don't feel like I have a better option when every single person on the opposing party is in favor of using American tax money to fund free healthcare for anyone who ISN'T American. Why would anyone want their country's leadership to take care of literally anyone but the people they're supposed to represent?

>Fuck off back to R3ddit you stupid niggerfaggot poltard.

More like a chorus line of literally who democrats.

As opposed to letting the rich bribe the way for vending machines full of candy and junk food into every last corner of the country to instill brand loyalty and promote sugar consumption?
The government would have a massive interest in public health under a public healthcare system.
Also a set of requirements for subsidies to schools is not the same as a mandatory list of recipes.
Or are you afraid the evil elites will make you eat eggplant?

Fuck off back to R3ddit you stupid niggerfaggot poltard, your president is a kike puppet.

>song is so fucking awful and cringe that it ends up embarrassing the left and energizing the right

Is Modern Simpsons /ourguy/?

>Fuck off back to pol/ you nigger.

Didn't Al Jean say they didn't make any Bush jokes because it was beating a dead horse?

Why is it always feet

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It all depends on how strong the economy stays. If we do get a bad recession there's a good chance he'll lose. If the economy stays strong despite the trade war he's got a good chance of winning, especially if Biden gets the nomination and keeps having gaffs like he's been.

Not sure sewing is necessary with cheap clothing everywhere.
Any expensive pieces are probably better off in the hands of a professional, anyway.
But yeah, cooking and traffic law as well as economic basics are important and neglected.
Home cooking competence is an important vector of cultural heritage and good health.
Women used to get housekeeping classes in some schools.
If you take out the sexism, that's actually not a bad idea as it's all about how to clean, mend, wash, fold, cook etc.
Shit you should be able to do but too many can't today.
And budgeting. They learned budgeting. An all-important aspect Americans are terrible at.

>burning perfectly good kidrobot figs
if you're gonna burn something, burn those ugly ass funkopops

I think a large part of this accusation depends on if Groening was onboard the plane explicitly named "Lolita Express."

Depends which year he said it. Anything to do with his first presidency (Bushism gaffes, pretending to be a Texan when he was a rich kid from Connecticut, making two wars) probably falls under dead horse territory in his second term.

>skit mostly just makes fun of his appearance
>they're still too puss to actually call him a Nazi or any of the other big words

They didn't ever make fun of Bush or reference him directly. Jean said after 9/11 they didn't even want to go there and there was nothing they could say that wasn't already said by someone else.

They also use that weird parody Trump voice SNL and Colbert uses, when only Psychicpebbles has nailed how he speaks

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What the fuck is up with modern Simpson caricature?
They all look so fucking weird next to the main cast, if white people weren't made yellow, you wouldn't even know it was the same show.

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They don't adapt the characters to the cartoony style well. The Bush vs Homer episode works because it's basically just Tom and Jerry.

This isn't just about making fun of Trump, you fuckin' dolt. Its about how plain terrible this musical number is. They didn't even try with the lyrics or gags. Its just the same 'ol "Trump fat n dumb hurr hurr" shtick that has been done to death already. My expectations were low considering this being Zombie Simpsons but damn, they really went for low hanging fruit here.

>actually championing the red squad
full on suicidal behavior, orange man broke liberals

>landlords enslave chinese peasants and sadistically mistreat them
>tables turn and the party lets the proletariat decide how to seize the means of production
>be surprised when the proletariat slaughters bourgs
tick tock porky

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They stopped giving a shit and if I remember correctly, some celebs got pissy about the caricatures, so now they're just painted yellow and have overbites.

Yet here we are after 3 years where the left still thinks DRUMPF is funny.

They should have done what SP did and allow celebrities to do guest spots, but only for animals(save for the Rain Forrest Episode)

Stop making stuff up.

More that the right have become babysitters for trump

No wonder your uncle is being held in an ICE cell

Colbert went to the island?

> Implying Nimoy looks good

...

Um, wait, aren't the Chinese people just slaves of the party and get killed/jailed for complaining about the party?

None of her green deal shit is even legally binding yet retards like you act like the gestapo are going to start knocking down doors confiscating hamburgers if it get passed.

>touching the oil
oh nonononono

Good point. Even lefties don't like this skit because it's not hard hitting or nasty enough.

That already happens dipshit

We do? I don't take anything AOC says seriously given that she'll be back to mixing drinks in Brooklyn in January 2021 anyway.

Non American here. Who the fuck are those women?

ecofascism is just a few climate change bills away

>Non American here.

Fuck off.

LINK THE ARTICLE YOU FUCKING FAGGOT

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They mainly don't like it because it's not funny, original, or well sung.

A likable candidate is impossible simply because of the way liberal ideology is now. Why did Biden give a big speech about white men being responsible for all rape in March? No one knows, but as long as it's required to shit on white people to be the nominee you're going to see the Democrats keep bleeding moderate whites to the GOP.

Exactly as it was in 1972 and 1984, I might add. The Dems only recovered in 1992 with a down to earth guy who didn't shit on normal people to win. But the Democratic party is probably demographically unable to elect someone like that- the base is too non-white, too socialist-leaning now (and this, itself, is a result of working class white people fleeing the party).

It's funny- the Democrats /could/ have been the dominant party numerically, but they fucked it all by being assholes to white working class Democrats after getting power.

I know right?

>thinking that having literally 40 candidates is a good thing

Protip: the "pussy" tape was Bush hit, that got passed to the Clintons. The reason having a LOT of candidates is bad is because only one can be the nominee so their supporters end up losing enthusiasm for the main guy and that 1) hurts turnout 2) having a lot of candidates means a lot of people are fundraising and spending constantly, which burns out donors when Democrats have been burning cash for the past 2 elections and 3) the Dem candidates literally do Trump's opposition research for him since there are so many of them looking to take Biden/Warren/Sanders down a peg, making it a lot easier for Trump.

>Hell I still don't know why Trump was placed into office in the first place.
People bought into the anti-establishment rhetoric.

That would first assume you believe in Gorebull Warming.

>But the Democratic party is probably demographically unable to elect someone like that- the base is too non-white, too socialist-leaning now
Arguably it's not any less white than it always was, though it does now encompass a lot of self-hating whites from the coasts.

>thinking that having literally 40 candidates is a good thing

I never said that in my post. Fuck off.

>Exactly as it was in 1972 and 1984, I might add.
Arguably also why the Republicans lost between 1932 and 48. They didn't have a compelling or relatable candidate.

Roy moore lost, so that's literally the opposite. And Roy moore was slandered, so that makes you a fucking jackass.

Trump's core message has been border security and undoing 25 years of bullshit trade agreements with China et al. I've seen no sign the Democrats have anything to answer it with. They can't so they have nothing to fall back on but buzzwords and attacking white people.

Hey-o!

>Trump's core message has been border security and undoing 25 years of bullshit trade agreements with China
Yeah, how's that going?

I gave up back in 07 when I learned that had Schwarzenegger as president in the movie.

I'm glad I did.

If it sucks to be non-white in America why do they literally break the law to come here? Hence the song is shit.

China is reduced to sending flash mobs to smash up KFCs and running ancient anti-US movies from like 1959 on state TV, so...

They didn't "lose" anything. Simpsons has been Groening's idea since like 1986- most likely the Boomer 20/30 somethings he had writing for him on the tracy ullman show have just plain fucking retired at this point, replaced by Gen Xers that grew up with it and are now being replaced by Millennials who grew up with Zombie Simpsons and a belief that everything should be politicized due to the culture of the 2000s making politics comedy (Daily Show, Colbert Report) for millions of young liberals.

It's shit because the people writing it are completely different from the people writing 30+ years ago.

>It's shit because the people writing it are completely different from the people writing 30+ years ago.
So you're saying that they lost writers? So then they did lose something.

Man this shit is so mind boggling that I don't even know what to say. (the video)

Huh? Groening wrote all the Ullman shorts himself, they didn't have writers and most of the classic season guys were Gen Xers fresh from college except John Swartzwelder who was 40 when he joined the team.

How does that help us though?

The Democratic party peaked in 2008 with 43 million white voters, it has now dropped to 37 million as of 2016. There's a collapse in the Midwest among working class white Democrats, and the party also is steadily losing their competitive edge in states like North Carolina and Florida for the same reason.

>when your TDS is so bad you think not allowing China to become the largest economy at our expense is bad because Trump suggested it

Protip: Obama literally ran on this in 2008 and dropped the ball after he was bought out by wallstreet. Border security, immigration cuts, trade deal renegotiation, bringing back the jobs, infrastructure spending- these were ALL part of Obama's 2008 platform.

It is impossible for Biden to win in 2020 running against 2008 Obama. No one wants "free healthcare for illegal immigrants", no one wants "3 million legal immigrants total", and no one wants "destroying the fracking industry that makes us oil-independent from the middle east"- especially in states like Colorado and Minnesota where the economy stands to gain from it.

Try having him as your governor

It obviously shows his trade war is working and they're feeling the pinch.

ft.com/content/1eb6d9ac-be6e-11e9-b350-db00d509634e
npr.org/2019/07/15/741735791/chinas-economy-falters-slowest-growth-in-nearly-3-decades
nytimes.com/2019/01/20/business/china-economy-gdp-fourth-quarter.html

North Carolina voting Democrat in 08 was a fluke and happened only due to increased black turnout.

>Protip: Obama literally ran on this in 2008 and dropped the ball after he was bought out by wallstreet. Border security, immigration cuts, trade deal renegotiation, bringing back the jobs, infrastructure spending- these were ALL part of Obama's 2008 platform.
I don't recall that. I only recall him saying "Too bad those jobs aren't coming back. Screw you."

And Groening doesn't write anymore for the show, so clearly he moved on.

>fresh gen xers

Doesn't really disprove the point that millennials replaced them at some point and suck shit through a straw with their over-politicization of comedy.

>especially in states like Colorado and Minnesota where the economy stands to gain from it.
Especially when one of those is a solidly blue state since forever and the other is a recently blue state. Good way to cut off the tree branch you're sitting on.

It makes me sad knowing how boring the next election after Trump will be. Like no one is going to care at all. The last two were just too intense

There also will probably not be a President as punkrock as Trump for atleast 2 decades as well. Is so damn counter culture. I live in LA, you can go outside, whisper his name, and people will start screaming. What a chad

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>And Groening doesn't write anymore for the show, so clearly he moved on.
He never did except like 1-1/2 episodes in the first three seasons and most of those were probably only 30% his writing anyway.

>It makes me sad knowing how boring the next election after Trump will be. Like no one is going to care at all. The last two were just too intense
>the last two elections
>2016
>2012
I don't remember anything intense about 2012, it was the most boring election ever and hardly anyone cared.

Please don't. Funkos based off the Simpson characters deserved to be incinerated.

He said that in 2009, which is what caused the Democrats to get destroyed in the 2010 midterms in the Midwest.

I think it's a funny case of "not learning from mistakes", since Clinton also said she'd "put coal miners out of a job" in 2016 and re-iterated she meant she was going to pay them 30 billion to fuck off. And now Biden says he wants to ban coal mining altogether.

The coal country of northeast pennsylvania was 80% for Obama in 2008, 60% in 2012 and then went 60% for Trump in 2016. Wanna guess where it'll be in 2020 running against No Coal Joe? It's literally impossible to win PA without that region. Probably even worse is that Biden was born there, it's like he's telling his hometown to go fuck themselves.

>Obama
>Overstep personal liberties (Patriot Act), Same border policy as trump
>Only orange mad bad tho

By last two I was meaning 2016 and 2020

>It's literally impossible to win PA without that region
The coal region doesn't have many people in it, the bulk of Pennsylvania's population is in Pittsburgh and the southeast.

I could see zoomers not give a fuck at all and being disillusioned with overt political parody in stuff, preferring subtler shit after these two election cycles.

I just like anything that brings "The Squad" more relevance just because they are a bunch if early career retarded socialists who formed a voting bloc within their own party. Pelosi hates them and has been trying to make them irrelevant for months.

Also keep in mind the only reason Trump didn't win Minnesota in 2016 was because the Iron Range didn't go as hard for him as it could have. But in 2018 the Republicans managed to flip it, despite massive opposition, indicating that swing region will likely swing harder in 2020. It's a neat set of demographic subgroups pushed by economics away from their traditionally leftist roots..

Dump Alabama into the ocean.

He means that 2024 will be boring because 2016 and 2020 will be intense. 2012 was just laughing at Romney autistically trying to hide from the cameras for a few weeks.

A bunch of leftist politicians who are being built up as the heroines that will take Trump down instead of a bunch of corrupt opportunists.

>Pelosi hates them and has been trying to make them irrelevant for months
No shit, she is old and doesn't like the idea of this group of people who are 40 years younger than her taking over the direction of the Democrat Party. Nobody likes to feel old and irrelevant.

Most likely he didn't win Minnesota because there were still too many hipsters/Somalis in the twin cities to overcome.

A retweet is a statement.
The White House legally defended his twitter as an official platform.

The official position of the US is that Cheeto is the Second Coming and King Of Israel.

Obama didn't write the Patriot Act, nor did he separate kids from their families and refuse them basic necessities.

Because finding someone who is better (??) and likable is difficult.
You could have someone of Mr. Rogers tier popularity and universal appeal, but if they're running on Clinton's platform from 2016 what's their appeal to any left-of-centre democrat? And if the candidate is instead centre-left, what's their appeal to the democratic establishment that installed Clinton in the first place?

Bill Clinton was a pretty poor president though. He largely gets a pass for his personality and his luck in economic circumstances at the time. In a just world he'd be a generally reviled figure like Tony Blair. (Though in a just world, Blair would be more reviled.)
the democrats definitely need somebody likable, but the policy element is oversold. a sufficiently likable and trustworthy character could sell the American public on anything.

If a democrat becomes a republican you've basically lost 2 votes- because you lost a guy and your opponent gained a guy. If you have 500,000 voters, 400k vote for you in one election then 300k the next- your opponent goes from 100k to 200k. In the next election you lose another 100k and your opponent gains another 100k. Your opponent wins the state because the region swung away from you. When it swings harder from you in the next election, you will lose the state again because you are bleeding huge numbers of voters to your opponent.

The coal region only has 10%~ of the state's population/voters, but it is vital to winning the state as rural areas continue to trend Republican.

4 Representatives (the Little Leagues of Congress) that get more airtime than any of the Democratic presidential nominees. Essentially, they are the political version of pic related.

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Remember that Clinton lost the blue collar vote for the Democrat Party forever with his free trade agreements that killed 2 million manufacturing jobs.

Forgot to add that no migrants ever died in the custody of Obama, either.

Pittsburgh is a traditionally blue collar city, they responded to Trump's message well.

No, policy is what wins the midwest. The midwest wants jobs because since 1979 the midwest has been in a quasi-recession. In 1979 there were over 1 million factory workers in Michigan, that number is only about half that now as jobs have been automated, outsourced or insourced to other states. This has gutted the state's economy, as without factory workers getting paid this means smaller service jobs that relied on the manufacturing jobs to spend money at their restaurants or whatever also become unprofitable and go under- a domino effect of unemployment spreading across the area.

>Yeah, how's that going?
fairly well, though the wall has only a few sectors and NGOs have tried to intensify the flow of imigrants to fuck with it.

Remember how never in US history have actual caravans of people downright assaulted the border? And how upon inspection they found out there were NGOs giving instructions and supplies for these people as well as convincing them to do it back in Nicaragua and El Salvador?

(You)

>Left wingers
Antifa member attempts to firebomb Border Patrol stations, killing dozens. Antifa says he's a hero.
"Free" Healthcare for illegals, fuck the border too.
>Right wingers
Trump says words.
Trump wanted to buy land from another country, like we've done numerous times.
Trump is CivNat, not based White Nationalist sadly.

To be fair, Trump
>Said Israel is brainwashing the world
>Said congressional support for Israel is from Jewish lobbying (AIPAC)
>Married his sibling for immigration benefits
>Shared a political comic by a Holocaust denier
>Supports a violent anti-Israel movement (BDS)
Oh wait, that's Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib.

>The midwest wants jobs because since 1979 the midwest has been in a quasi-recession
I would argue the real kicker was Clinton's free trade agreements. Those just killed the economy of the region.

>dude just let all the kids in lmao

I value myself more than foreigners looking for free shit. How about you go to their country and help them out if it makes you so sad, faggot?

He retweeted someone else that called him "king of israel" and he said he was "the chosen one" in reference to the trade war- i.e. he means he's the one chosen by the voters to carry out the trade war people have been talking about for 20 years but never had the balls to do.

Politics post-2014 has a built-in failsafe.

Inability to address climate change because everyone is garbage means the human race will be largely extinct by 2070, which is perfectly fine since nothing of value will have been lost.

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You're forgetting about the reality of voter apathy, and if a person is not driven to vote, oftentimes it doesn't matter how they align politically, they might not show up to the polls at all. Many candidates sweep areas that they ultimately don't really represent simply because so many people there don't fucking vote. It's why the Repub strategy of pandering to single-issue voters has actually somewhat worked out. Those people care passionately about their one issue and make sure to go to the polls to vote on it.

>dude just let all the kids in lmao

Not what I said, fuckstick.

I don't think we can alter a natural weather cycle that's been going on since long before Henry Ford invented the Model T.

A chance the first part is true, no way the second is.

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Oh hey extra lies, kids were never refused necessities durimg seperation.

>Antifa
A bunch of unorganized screaming morons with a few violent assholes among them.
>Alt Right
A bunch of unorganized screaming morons with a few violent assholes among them.

To date the only difference is Antifa has done more property damage, Alt Right has more kills.

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>no one wants "destroying the fracking industry that makes us oil-independent from the middle east"
No one wants fracking near them either.

>extra lies
No, that was (you). Fuck off.

Pretty sure all of those apply to Giuliani.

Except he married his cousin, and it wasn’t for any benefit beyond fucking his cousin.

Nothing natural about over one hundred glaciers and counting that haven’t melted since they formed during the Ice Age suddenly melting, and none re-forming again.

To be fair, nobody wants leather parades and trannies near them either but that's 2019's Democrat Party. They should run on the slogan "Two trannies in every home and two dicks in every butthole."

>Trump says words.
Understatement of the century

The problem evwryone has with antifa is that they show up to other people's events to violently shut them down, the media runs interference for them, and "activist judges" let them off with no actual punishment.

Sounds like you want /pol/ to go Democrat.

You do know we have reliable weather records only as far back as the 1880s, right?

You're right, we should make it worse.

>The problem evwryone has with antifa is that they show up to other people's events to violently shut them down, the media runs interference for them, and "activist judges" let them off with no actual punishment.
So the same as the Alt Right?

What leftist events have your poorly defined altright shown up to for the sole purpose of preventing the event from occuring?

You do know that carbon decays at a reliable rate, so you can accurately date when the ice formed by measuring the carbon decay of the particles that were in the air that the ice formed around, right?

Some think this is just an interglacial period we're in and a new ice age will start again in 10,000 years.

user, it took only ONE volcanic eruption to freeze earth over and cut down humanity to 3000 or so individuals. We've had worse.

Also, human pollution and overpopulation are not a problem in western modern countries. Africa and Asia are 100% of the problem, the only environmentally sensible thing to do is to nuke all Nigerians, Pakis, Pajeets, Chinks and Flips, but people would rather ruin the lives of innocents than genocide the guilty.

Every Gay Pride event.

The left is just doing the same shit the right has done for years, leaving those of us in the middle mourning that you lot don’t just off each other once and for all so we don’t have to deal with your crazy asses anymore.

>Save the world
>With radioactive fallout

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>poorly defined altright

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Did they actually say that? Really.

...Is fucking BoJo considered "classy" in America?

Wait, so the right wingers are going to pride to make the gays look bad?

Modern nuclear weapons are pretty environmentally friendly, the fallout is quite short since all the energy gets burned up quickly instead of lingering and ionizing everything. However, if you're still worried about the damage, you can set off Neutron weapons which kill every living thing without actually demolishing and burning things.

>So the same as the Alt Right?
No, the exact opposite.
There's no other group on any part of the political compass that's even remotely comparable.

"exact opposite" is a remote comparison

true but even then he could hang a giant poster of himself inside North Korea's Demilitarized Zone. I'd actually vote for him if he did it during the presidential debate with Biden.

Rightwingers, nor does any other political group, have masked violent gangs of people who only exist to riot at other people's lawful events.
That is exclusively an antifa thing.

Can't believe that while the episode is partisan in nature, everyone's reaction to it is BIPARTISAN. All Simpson fans of all political stripes joined forces to shout "WORST EPISODE EVER"

How do you fuck up so bad that not even the target audience you want likes it?

Anyone remember the name of that episode where Mel Gibson was on a trial (or was it a movie about a trial) and he impales someone with the American Flag
It's 10+years old

This perfectly captures how he repeats himself and uses placeholders constantly. All the things liberals attack him for. And they let this slide.

That doesn't really apply to a region of coal miners that voted for a candidate who wanted to revitalize coal, and voter turnout in Pennsylvania is proportionally high.

The states that benefit economically want it. Hickenlooper only won Colorado on a pro-fracking platform, dems will lose that state in 2020.

>Or maybe not get treated as a debt slave by companies after the US stopped propping them up as their model colony.

The problem in my country is not because of corporate greed. It’s our government that in the 70’s found a way to circumvent our constitution in order to keep taking out loans for free shit. When the limit reached and money ran out, our local leftists began to blame US corporations, and of course the ever contrarians democrats in the US preach the same because Orange Man Bad