CARNAGE IS COMING HOME
CARNAGE IS COMING HOME
THE VENOM MARATHON CONTINUES
This thread is probably going nowhere so here´s my awful idea that everyone will hate:
I would love it if Venom 2 becomes the first superhero movie with a homosexual protagonist (there´s probably some indie movie that has this already but who cares), making Sony beat Marvel on that department
If they go for the romantic angle with Venom and Eddie, just like they teased with the marketing on the first one, I will watch this movie day one. I don´t care if it turns out to be horrible, that would make it even better.
What about Deadpool, by the way?
>When you hear Carnage, the only thing you can think of is R. But, if you know his story, if you really know the comic, there’s no R here. He’s a tortured soul. It’s not about what he does, because we never have to show the knife going from here to there, and the blood is pouring. What you have to show is, what is the motivation? Was he born like that, or [is he] someone we should feel for, because if you succeeding in making a villain someone you can feel for, jackpot."
thanks sony, very cool
It's not Carnage's fault it's Cletus's
>Now that Sony/Marvel Deal is Kaput
NO ITS NOT! There is still hope and there are deals still being made.
Uh no. It's final. Sony told Disney to fuck off. Spidey is there's now.
>whats his motivation?
He's a killer. Carnage is a literal one note killing machine, jesus christ are we going to get a redemption arc or some shit with him? This is why you sony fags shouldn't have the franchise. you have to be bribed not to fuck shit up
This, if Marvel had them they wouldn't stoop to giving a one note villain an extraneous back story.
>yfw Marvel will never be able to do Carnage right, by making him a disgruntled Ex-Stark Employee
>Raimi movies got fucked over by exec intervention
>Spider-Verse will get run into the ground like the Lego Movie because the execs will think they're the ones who made it good
History shows again and again, how nature points out the folly of men
>R rated sexy She-Venom
PLEASE
Casual reminder
Yikes. I could totally see his whole rogues gallery tied to Tony
>I'm Cletus, and I'd like to thank everybody for joining my Snapchat. Thinking I'll stop by the vegan bar, maybe do some skydiving later. NBD!
If nothing else I'll give the movie credit for giving me the one thing I wanted most, which was also the thing I thought I was least likely to get in any form.
Bahahaha fuck
Never change, Hollywood, never change
It's confirmed Venom 2 will feature more She-Venom than the first movie.
The goopy boys are back
Oh god.....no, please no, this sounds so bad, like they have never actually read anything with Carnage in it before...
based. the post credit scene was already like straight out of a horror movie
I'm pretty damn sure he hasn't read Carnage: Mind Bomb, because that comic showed you that Cletus is one fucked up person
Deadpool is owned by Fox, which is owned by Disney. Safe to say he’ll be PG-13 for the foreseeable future.
> Implying people will watch Venom after this.
Sony must have lost their damn minds. After this they are done.
>Sony must have lost their damn minds. After this they are done.
I absolutely believe you.
If they're gonna try and turn Cletus into a relatable character they might as well rewrite the script because the only person who could relate to him is Ted Bundy.
>Safe to say he’ll be PG-13
Not safe to say. Bob Iger says he’s still interested in making a third R-rated Deadpool film. The rumor is that they’re thinking about making Deadpool’s films R-rated, but having him in PG-13 crossover films.
>could
If it's like the first Venom movie it'll still be subpar.
I still hate how they had the symbiote go through his clothes without tearing anything. Just really make it feel like it had no impact.
You just wanna see him naked....
Thank fuck he's the producer and not the director.
Is this real?
THERES GONNA BE CARNAGE
what was up with the blue filter though,
Like that makes it any better
>Implying Sony will let Venom 2 be R-rated when the first movie made over $850 million
The highest grossing rated R movie ever made $785 million and Sony is likely expecting to make more than the first film.
You do understand that he picks the director right? Or maybe Pascal does but she's just as bad
Aye, it’s supposed to be a report found in the end of the first issue of Absolute Carnage
It was originally directed by Zach Snyder.
Jesus I just hope this won't effect the movie.
I do not want Carnage to be "relatable". Cletus is and always will be a fucking irredeemable psychopath.
You know he meddled with Spider-Man 3 and TAMS 2 right?
GOD DAMN IT
I wanted some practical effects blended in with the CG so that the only good visual moments weren't fullbody venom and the rest looking worse than 2011 The Thing.
Honestly I hope they go with that kind of inspiration rather than this fucking shit, I don’t give a fuck about Kasady’s past, I don’t care why he’s doing what he’s doing, he’s not fucking Norman Bates. But no, I’m sure we’ll get the whole, “He a produc Of his environment and it’s not his fault really, his a tortured soul, poor Cletus.”
>He’s a tortured soul
What? No. He tortures souls, he's not a tortured soul. He's not a case of a troubled childhood and society failing him leading him down a dark path but there's still good in him buried underneath all the blood or whatever. He's just a fucking deranged serial killer. He kills for no other reason than a love of murder and chaos.
That's what makes Carnage so dangerous compared to Spider-man's other villains. Most of Spider-man's villains, no matter how evil, have some shred of humanity that Peter can appeal to or see himself in, even the likes of Green Goblin. But Carnage? There's no reasoning with Cletus. He's just evil. Full stop. The only way to stop him is to kill him.
In every iteration of Spider he's portrayed as a mass murderer who has a sense of humor that is on par with THE FUCKING JOKER. They cannot make someone like that into someone worth giving a shit about. He has done some OF the worst things imaginable in the Marvel universe. Stuff you'd see in a horror movie.
Carnage and redemption do not mix. He was born a killer and he'll die a killer.
>He’s a tortured soul.
I can't think of a single Spider-Man character who's less of a tortured soul than Carnage. God damn you Sony.
TOM HARDY IS GOING TO GET FUCKED BY VENOM
>TOM HARDY IS GOING TO GET FUCKED BY VENOM
TOM HARDY IS GOING TO GET FUCKED BY VENOM
>TOM HARDY IS GOING TO GET FUCKED BY VENOM
Yes, he was born like that. This... this isn't up for debate. Cletus is an irredeemable monster, full stop. There is no good in him and never was.
Quick question, stan lee's daughter is siding with sony and saying that marvel and disney are bad because they are using marvels property and haven't reached out to HER.
Didn't she used to like..abuse stan lee and trot him around like a puppy to events?
Do symbiotes even have genders? I thought they just conformed to whatever their host was.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, spiderverse was not worth the absolute shit show guaranteed to come through sony
Yes, she's a scumbag. She's not wrong about Disney/Marvel execs being shitty, but that doesn't make her not a horrible person.
Symbiotes are agender
Jesus christ I just want to have a villain that's an irredeemable piece of shit. But no apparrently the only "villains" that get that treatment are trump supporters in the comics. Give me a fucking break.
Faggot bullshit.
Carmage is pure irredemible evil.
A fundamentally broken serial killer.
A villian from a fucking horror flick.
No amount of doing the good deep down underneath to shill him to deeply fucked up bitches and queers as fap bait will work.
As a matter of fact the people LIKE carnage as a fully evil irredeemably evil venom+spiderman.
The blue filter is a trend in Hollywood for a while now. They think it makes everything look "cooler". They've even been taking older movies, like the first Batman movie, and putting a blue filter over it for the 4k releases.
Raimi movies were only good for their time. To be honest, even then, there agressively mediocre with only a few bright spots and dropped balls.
Like the casting of spiderman. Major dropped ball.
The waste of Dafoe as GG. Goddamn what a fuck up.
Well here is hoping that they will remember this when they decide to push the character onto the big screen, but I’m worried that they’ll be doing the exact opposite since Carnage is a popular character and all. Really wish they would focus more on animated pictures and leave live action to the other people, they did amazing work with ITSV making it feel like a comic come to life, imagine that kind of dedication with an anaimates adaptation of Maximum Carnage
>Inb4 Maximum Carnage was shit
It was, but so was the comic for Spider-Verse, like, goddamn that was all just so bad, but the movie took the concept and spun it into a far better story. I believe they could do the same for Maximum Carnage, take a relatively bad comic and turn into into a grand animated film.
This is why I think all the contrarians trying to overly demonize Disney and saying they're happy Sony is getting the full rights are fucking stupid. Anyone paying attention knows Amy Pascal, Avi Arad, and Tom Rothman are fucking morons.
Exactly. Ex-fucking-actly.
As a matter of fact. Cletus acting like he's a victim and pretending like he's a tortured soul would be so out of character it'd be an INSULT to the character. Almost as bad as Boomer Thor.
No. They are all aesexual entities.
Well they were the last time I looked.
I don't know what's going on with them now.
They're either cheap knock offs of the xo manofwar suit or a synthetic life form created by some evil/good god that is warring against the celestials.
>Thinking that Sony made it Pg13 because of Disney and not because of money
How fucking retarded are you
No they don't but that doesn't stop the saddest army of retards on Earth, i.e. symbiotefags
Venom is asexual you dumbass
Him acting like a victim as a joke to hide his evil nature would work well if he dropped it and started slaughtering people.
We'll see that he's fucking evil, not just mentally fucked and insane, but a fundamentally evil monster the worst that humanity has to offer with nothing redeemable in him. Niothing HUMAN in him and he'd be a formidable fighter and monster BEFORE he gets the symbiote.
Hell have it so that cletus is a handful for venom before he gets..."lknocked up" with the carnage symbiote
sony is literally dead
That can work but DON'T. FUCKING. TRY. TO. MAKE. PEOPLE. SYMPATHIZE. WITH. HIM.
Just don't. Everyone knows that he's a fucking demented irredeemable beast. And fans love him that way. Why change something about a character that people loved? Do not make him into a little bitch.
>fans love him that way
>implying it isn't Tom Hardy fucking She-Venom
>thinking an R rated version of a kids comic book character is inherently superior to a PG-13
Is this board made up of 12 year olds? Sony is stupid if they think this. I can't think of any mature readers books with Venom in it. I don't think he was even in a Max series. At least Punisher and Deadpool had that, and even then I'd argue that Deadpool shouldn't have been R since most of his books were not mature readers ones.
>they try to pull a joker with casidy
Didnt he killed his parent?
Dude is beyond redemption.
Good. R-rated Deadpool is overrated as fuck. As much as I'm glad Reynolds finally beat out Tom Rothman to finally get Deadpool made, I disagree that it needed to be R-rated. The majority of Deadpool was at most a teen book. Baker's Deadpool Max series was great, but I don't think it is needed for a Deadpool film.
a PG-13 movie can't have Carnage throw a baby out of the window and I want to see Carnage throw a baby out of the fucking window
Shut the fuck up mousefag you lose
The only way Eddie should be fucking Venom is by putting Venom on the person he's already fucking. Trying to make Eddie date a symbiote would be beyond goofy.
I really liked Venom and I'll probably watch the second one.
It's night time.
That pic is literally the one character trait Eddie has done as wrong as it could wth
He pushed his Grandmother down the stairs because he'd seen it on TV
He got jealous of his Mom's dog getting more attention than him so he killed it.
This obviously made her hate him more, which made him hate her more, which ended up with him tripping her up on a power cord and coming at her with a drill. She got it out of his hand and tried to kill him with a kitchen knife. Cletus' Dad came home, found his wife trying to kill his boy, so he beat her to death with a hammer.
Cletus told the cops that his Dad killed his Mom for no reason at all.
This all backfired because he ended up in a Catholic Orphanage were he was hated, beaten and bullied by everyone of the other orphans, and the Nuns didn't care. Eventually he had enough and set the whole place on fire, with everyone inside.
He is incredibly ego-driven. He craves attention and the second he feels he's not getting enough, he'll lash out in a murderous way.
Random note, but unless Cletus' Dad got the death penalty for killing his wife, that means he's technically still alive and is something that comics can mine for character development.
>MCUck seething
At least you have tranny Thor and Captain Restingbitchface :)
Funny. Pretty sure that was originally in a kids comic in the 90s. So you're full of it that it can't be in a PG-13.
Yes. Let's argue about console wars on Yea Forums too. You know what? Disney does suck. It's just that Sony somehow sucks even worse. I don't trust either one with handling Spider-man. Yet Sony and its many reboots, with Spider-man and other properties, has left me with no hope for them.
Producers/execs push for PG/PG-13 because they think it will make them more money. With R movies they can't abuse the inflation from kids bugging their parents to take them to see the movie.
Then they might as well cancel the movie because no one will want to see Carnage if they don't show his true potential. He's a fucking killer. If he doesn't kill someone in a brutal fashion you might as well call him Red Venom.
Venom was a hit with PG-13 and symbiotes biting heads off with zero gore. A sequel will be a hit regardless if they pussify Carnage.
>Have character that actually fits their woke agenda
>A character that could be %100 horror series of films
>Actually fits the joker mold instead of forced
>completely trash it so director can feel they left special spin
This guy has Epstein level dirt on these higher ups doesn't he?
China would beg to differ.
>that means he's technically still alive and is something that comics can mine for character development.
Cletus is an evil monster on par with the worst 80s movies evil monsters.
There.
Take your attempts at giving him persona beyond that and shove it up your ass.
Sony buying seats in empty theatres.
Unless there are a shit ton of chinamen wearing venom shirts or a fuckton of rip off venom in media then it had no impact.
Remember, china will rip off cool shit from other nations without even the slightest bit of shame.
Seeing an R rated movie only about She-Venom made by Don Bluth would be interesting.
If they do Blade R Deadpool could be R too, if you see Blade PG13 anyhow they maybe recast Reynolds who knows, he got 12M from the last movie I think and that's too much maybe, and he is also 42yo ....
>Yea Forums cries and whines allways that carnage is just "dude serial killer lmao" and should have a change
>someone decides to put a spin on the character and make it more interesting
>Yea Forums whines and cries regardless
MAKING A FUCKING CANONICAL CRAZED GENOCIDAL SERIAL KILLER INTO A WHINY LITTLE BITCH IS THE OPPOSITE OF INTERESTING
Name two crazed evil genocidal killers in superhero films who don't have a ABLOO HOO HOO sad backstory.
Just two.
Everyone is sick of the sad ending backstory.
And fuck everyone here who tries to make sad backstories for evil pieces of shit here.
>and never was
How dare you spit on the memory of Carnage-Man?
Let's do it
OW, the edge
It was a simpler time.
I used to think my life was a horror movie, then I realized it was a tragedy
>Carnage movie where he fucking shreds and eats people
I'm game man I fucking love Carnage and I was really disappointed that they were going to have to neuter him
>Carnage is edgy
Fucking stop the presses
Let's just pray that they let Carnage go all out.
No fucking shit. "Edgy" is basically his personality.
venom made money but that doesnt mean it was a good movie or that it proves sony is capable of making quality movies with cape shit
said a literal cardboard cutout who hasn't seen it yet.
Jesus fucking christ on a bike, that was a weird boner.
I wouldn't say Carnage is completely irredeemable just not redeemable in a traditional sense.
Venom is a very popular husbando. The symbiote itself is weird, so they'd have to be creative with how they show it off but this ways can be used to make it a tad more nuanced and complicated so that the inattentive viewer would just see platonic character development. Eddie is already shown to be into women in the first movie too, but Venom and Eddie is still the obvious pairing. Venom itself is often posted on Yea Forums couples threads.
Anyone who seriously wants Sony to have control over Spider-Man and cites Raimi's films as a reason is batshit retarded considering how much Sony fucked over Raimi and Spider-Man 3.
>majority of Deadpool was at most a teen book
What about Posehnpool and Dugganpool?
That's literally alignment reversed Carnage. That's replacement, not redemption. Like when they kill you and replace you with a clone or a you from another dimension or a robot. Original Carnage isn't in there.
What if Don Bluth made an animated She-Venom film and it was rated R?
> at sony ... now, still at sony
venom never 'left' ...
>Freebird
The mantra of the moron.
who cares, shitty sequel for a shitty movie
Carnage better be as gory as Zygote was
My hope is that Venom 2 pulls a Godzilla King of The Monsters in the sense that it's full non stop fanservice with the origin out of the way
Its not a D*sney movie tho, and that makes it the best movie coming up
BASED
Ooh! Are we gonna "surf the web?"
yes
CAN YOU FEEL IT? KINO IS BACK ON THE MENU, YOU’RE NEXT SPIDER
Why do they always do this
Based Cletus is giving me a Woody
I get his name is Cletus but he's not some Alabama trailer trash. He was born in Westchester
> B-B-BUT SONY IS COMPETENT, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING
this is the future you faggots wanted
get ready for another spidey reboot where muh uncle ben gets shot in the first 20 minutes again
>he's not some Alabama trailer trash
pretty much every flashback I've read has depicted him like that.
White trash is a thing in NY. although I must admit is is more of a northern thing
t. Oswego resident.
LEL
315 is a shithole, glad i got out
Holy fuck Carnage is based
>Carnage starts in PG rated comics
>gains popularity through the cartoon that Spider-Man couldn't throw a punch in
>durr you can't do him in PG-13
Wasn’t interested in Sony’s cinematic universe before since it was a stupid idea that they filled with Spider-Man related characters with no Spider-Man and, if anything, now I’m doubling down on not watching their shit