DISNEY SONY DEAL IS NO MORE
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OH NONONONONONONONONONONONON
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Welp.
Does this mean we can have a Spider-Man who isn't Iron Kid or we can bring back one of the older actors?
Oh fuck off
What the fuck Sony
Fuck you
>Venom Movie Universe
My body is ready
Press F for Feige.
So is Peter gonna get fucked in the comics again?
YEEEEES
NO MORE TONY STARK WORSHIP
I thought they would give it back if it reached a billion
RIP
MCU spidey isn't Iron kid, though.
But how will Deadpool rape Spider-Man now?!
That's fucking awesome.
Sony doing us all a favour and ending MCU dead in its tracks, thank fuck
ok this is epic
Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.
it means Night Monkey will join the Avengers.
I saw this coming desu especially after Venom and Spider-verse
>no more uncle Happy and papa Stark
>no more forced MCU references
>we might actually get films about Spider-Man and not Peter Parker: The Ascended Avengers Fanboy
It was the other way around.
Does this mean tom holland is cancelled and Disney can't make more Spiderman movies?
Disney demanded 50% of the gross on top of their rights to merch
>Sources said there are two more Spider-Man films in the works that are meant to have director Jon Watts and Tom Holland front and center. Unless something dramatic happens, Feige just won’t be the lead creative producer of those pictures.
They're continuing the Holland-Verse, just without overt MCU references, I assume.
Sony is so fucking stupid, holy shit what an absolute mess.
Holy shit.
They just kicked Feige straight in the balls with a baseball bat. This is huge.
>this happens right after Sony buys Insomniac Games
INSOMNIAC CHADS IN THE HOUSE TONIGHT
See
Stop being a fanboy,
THATS WHY HIS IDENTITY WAS REVEALED! It was Disney saying “You fucking figure it out from here” hahahaha
That's understandable. I mean, Disney really needs more money to add to its billions
So does this mean Spider-Man ps4 will go multiplat?
Marvel is just making room for the X-men
That's still not right.
Sony have lost all the good will they've built up. They should let Marvel Studios handle the movies.
Does this have a PC port yet? I'm home sick from work and I need something to do.
>That's still not right.
No, it's absolutely right retard
kek holy shit.
Oh god please please please don’t let SONY get their dumbass noses all in Insomniac’s business for the sequel. Just let them fucking work
Cancel them and bring back Andrew Garfield. Or bring in Asa Butterfield.
That's not exactly it. Disney also offered to pay for 50% of the movie and marketing.
Holland is still Spider-Man and Jon Watts is still set to direct two more sequels.
Plus now they'll probably have that Spider-Man/Venom crossover they wanted so much.
Sony stock tanking in 3...2...1...
>the most financially successful Sony movie is a Marvel Spiderman movie
>There are ending their partnership
That make a the no sense./Italian accent
You know Sony has creative control over these movies too, right?
Chinks will join it
Damn it. Frickin' Watts doesn't understand the character and he sucks.
Yeah they should just roll over and hand over the film rights to one of the most successful superhero film franchises to Disney.
jesus fucking christ, why does snoy have to ruin everything!?!
good. fuck MCU spidey.
How is it right retard? Sony should just shut the fuck up and let Disney handle Spidey.
The stories have never been better, especially since they can use Spider in the MCUniverse.
>Sony pictures
>somehow still capable of being completely stupid enough to fuck this deal up after how huge of a success it’s been
They didn’t even need Pascal at the helm either
Well, there goes MCU's new front-runner. Shit is going to get really fucking interesting now.
VICTORY!
FUCK DISNEY! FUCK THE SATANIC HORNED RAT!
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Is this real?
>no more ethnic expys for Spider-movies
Guess /pol/ will be happy then...
Brilliant plan too. Get them to invest a fuck ton in it then snatch it away.
>"Spider-Man is Feige's favorite character"
Then why are all the movies he produced and had a creative input in complete fucking trash that fundamentally misunderstood what the character stands for and the role he plays in the source material? Good fucking riddance. I'll take Webb-tier movies over what we got out of the deal in these last few years.
The first cracks show. This is it, the first major fuck up of many to come. This superhero plague on TV is coming to it's end at last.
HAHAHAHAH
GET FUCKED DISNEY
GET FUCKED MCU
if you're upset about this, go outside. anything that puts a dent in disney's control of everything is good. even if its sony. the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
F
>Sony renegs on Marvel Studios with Spider-Man rights
>Disney buys Sony for an ungodly amount of money by the end of 2019/mid 2020 or even earlier in retaliation
Calling it now. Screencapping this shit.
>kicked Feige straight in the balls
>with a baseball bat
You can't kick with a bat, last time I checked.
Buy a PS4 and play it
On one hand, I'm happy because this fucks Disney up in their asses
On the other hand, Snoy.
Ha ha, no possible Captain Cunt cross over. Eat shit Carolfags.
Time to bring back based Arad. This dude singlehandedly prevented Spider-Man from going into progressive politics.
>company warsing this hard
Yikes. Go outside before summer break ends, my friend.
>THANKS FOR THE BILLIONS, FAG!
Absolutely worth it, best "cinematic" game this gen
Yeah, no. Instead we'll be getting yet another Spider-Man origin half-assed Sony movie. Much better.
>Just spend $500+ bro what's wrong with you?
actually it makes complete perfect sense. You let marvel take care of making a loyal brand base that everyone will love and then you take the rest of the cash that you'll make from that brand. If anything Disney should have saw this coming
EPICO!
Thank God. Now the X-Men will truly be the main characters of the MCU moving forward, as it should have been.
>we might actually get
I'm gonna stop you right there because we know exactly what the fuck we will actually get. Which is more Venom and ASM tier dogshit.
I don't feel so good
No more Iron Lad! Woooo
>progressive politics
Yes that was totally the problem
R E N T F R E E
Is Sony just retarded or insane?
I'm sure Feige's balls would disagree right now.
Let's hope. This is the best news I've heard in days.
Anyone who read their leaked emails knows Sony is retarded on a level most people can't comprehend. This is gonna be a fucking glorious trainwreck.
SONYCHADS WIN AGAIN
It means MCU Spiderman is going to change his identity or something.
Maybe that is why Disney's Spiderman is so divorces from the character. That way if the partnership ended they could keep doing stories with the actor without the Spiderman identity.
Better than Homecoming and Stark worship
yes
SONY CHADS REPORT IN!
THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HIT EM!
Is it because Disney's in hot water atm, and Sony wants nothing to do with it?
HOW the FUCK do we keep WINNING?
Seems like trouble for Marvel. Spidey was a lynch pin for the phases going forward. With Evans and Downey also gone they're gonna have to lean to heavily on BP and GoTG to carry them forward.
I'm so glad this happened. I'm glad that their perfect little cinematic universe is being ruined by corporations playing tug of war over a toy like a bunch of little kids, making it rip apart at the seams. It's something that should be flawed by concept. Hopefully the next generation of comic book movies gets it right and ditches the quasi-realistic motif in favor of actual spandex.
Fucking what?
I'm so sad seeing those animated series in the hands of Sony like "The Real Ghostbusters" and "Channel Umptee-3"
they should go into the hands of a better company like WarnerMedia or DreamWorks
Actually had a reverse effect, Sony felt confident on not needing the MCU to generate a mountaim of cash anymore and Marvel saw this movie making so much that they asked for a bigger piece of it, so Sony took it all away
Why are you guys thinking that Holland-Man 3 won't make a bank without the MCU? They've sold the normalfags on the character and that's what matters. Venom was a major success even without any MCU connections. ItSV won an Oscar and is widely considered to be one of the best capeshit movies of all time. They're on a roll now. It was Sony using Marvel to rebuild their goodwill and not the other way around. They can just pump these movies out without any involvement from Disney's creatives, tie everything together with the Venomverse and basically just pick up where they left off in terms of franchise building when ASM2 crashed.
They got X-Men, F4, and Deadpool back in the fold tho. Enough stalling time anyway
This
Have people already forgotten those ridiculous Sony email leaks? Anyone who remembers the god awful ideas knows Sony won’t figure out what to do with this movie franchise.
I wonder who the middle aged man pretending to be a teenager will be this time. And I'm sure the 3rd origin retelling won't drag on for most of the movie.
A Ps4 costs about $270, and you can get spiderman for about $30, so you'd be spending $300 for a console which you can play other exclusives on and a game you want to play and can't play otherwise.
Da fuck is this?
>company wars
you're using the phrase wrong
Their park division got whistleblown for reporting inflated fake amounts of revenue. Odds are their film division is likely to be doing the same.
>sony is basically trying to sell off it's movie division and is trying to force disney to bite.
>Disney bites.in early 2020, IT MUST BE FED.
>Disney acquires some good stuff (ghostbusters) and a bunch of shit (ghostbusters)
>Deal is being Finalized when the news shows Sanders or Warren somehow beating Trump.
>ushering in a new era of anti-trust legislation.
LOL NOPE
They said that FOX Xmen movies gave them A LOT OF Damage and low sales
There won't be any more Holland Spidey. Sony can take the Spidey character back but they don't have sole ownership of the cast. They'll have to reboot AGAIN and I think people just aren't going to care this time.
So is Ike going to go thermonuclear on the Spider-Man comics since they don't have control of the film rights?
Any news for Spectacular revival?
Yeah, but all that build up will be ruined when Sony is left to their own devices and fucks it all up as they do.
>It seems Disney asked for all future Spider-Man projects to be a 50/50 co-financing arrangement between Marvel and Sony but the latter declined. Instead, Sony proposed leaving the current deal untouched, meaning Marvel would continue to receive approximately 5% of first-dollar gross while maintaining merchandising rights, which Disney refused.
AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
THIS IS YOUR BRAIN ON GREED, DISNEY!
Disney is not going to let Spider-Man go that easily.
Dirty guerrilla tactics and warfare will begin soon.
Yeah, everyone loves it because Sony fucked it up before. So, what's going to happen now?
You joke about this, but legally that's probably what'll happen. Tom could still appear in movies but not as Spider-man and we'll never see the Spidey suit again. God damn he might actually be Night Monkey from now on and it's both pathetic and hilarious.
This would force Sony to recast him.
Way to be fucking retarded, Soony
There isn't going to be a Holland Man 3 because Sony is packing it's shit and leaving. Now that Spiderman got the MCU cash injection and craze, they don't feel like they need them.
So what happens now? No more Spider-Man in the MCU?
>sequel literally called "far from home"
>people are suprised that he's gone
Seriously??
>Their park division got whistleblown for reporting inflated fake amounts of revenue. Odds are their film division is likely to be doing the same.
So Yea Forums was right that they've been injecting money in their own movies like CM?
Read the article. They will be continuing to make Holland Spidey films. Just without Feige's involvement.
They never really had him.
Only way this changes is if Disney blinks or makes Sony an offer they can't refuse.
Spiderkid fucking sucks. The first movie was shit and the only good thing about the 2nd one was the Mysterio sequence.
>it's good despite expectations so I want it to fail
DC fan detected
No more Iron Kid...YES!
Lmao, RIP spidey comics.
So what about the Spider-Man ride that is supposed to open?
>X-Men Brand damaged be on belief
>Ike and Marvel comics Fucked up the Inhumans and there push.
Guess it's up to the Eternals now.
So what does this mean about the Toy Story mania knock off ride they were planning for Disneyland?
Each git half and a half, and Disney also was putting money in production and marketing this time
Sony got cocky, it's just how it happens with Hollywood producers, time will tell of movie normie fans stomach the change
Easy comea, easy goes. It was always stupid from Marvel to just borrow the character bad and let it be so dependant on the MCU characters if Sony could take it all bad at the drop of a hat, they also got too cocky just because of the Disney bucks
I will laugh my ass off if they lose the game rights or some shit. Fucking Sony.
I teach for a living; I don't exactly have $300 just laying around.
Sony Japan is going to have to spank Sony Pictures again.
i am honestly glad because I enjoyed far from home
I disagree. I liked both MCU movies way better than both Sony Amazing Spider-Mans. This is going to be a train wreck.
The article says it's the same cast though, just Feige won't have input.
INB4 Sony adds a trillion villains for muh toys and it bombs from bad word of mouth anyway.
Sony would be getting next to no money out of this deal.
With Disney taking the merchandising rights of these movies, all Sony had to gain from this was the box office revenue, then Disney demanded 50%. Spiderman is Sony's biggest IP, and they aren't gonna give it away. Plus, they successfully launched their own universe, so they don't really need to do that. Plus, they have Lord and Miller to make a bunch of new Spiderman cartoons and live action shows for them.
>C*nsoles
lolno
I just hope that role doesn't get filled by fucking Carol
>DC fan detected
rent free. I liked Raimi's Spider-man better with Spectacular Spider-man. And pre-Marvel before Disney bought it.
Just give up, kid.
Disney tried to alter the deal, retard. Sony wanted to keep it as it is.
Sony base moved to California. Why do you think they've been censoring or refusing to localize games from japan anymore?
>will laugh my ass off if they lose the game rights or some shit. Fucking Sony.
Sony bought the game studio that made it. Are you saying they're going to deny themselves from the rights they own or something?
God I hate Soony fanboys. Fuck off back to Yea Forums you dick riding faggot. Take your mouseketeer retards with you.
Oh yeah, the MCU is so fucked. How will disney get out of this one?
It can go any way, maybe Spiderverse was a cop out movie just in case this deal flopped? Establishing in everyone’s minds that they can have multiple spiderpeople and multiple universes. Maybe Sony will make another new and different Spider-Man or maybe continue on ASM (recast obviously) bringing in more characters and storylines. Maybe AN ACTUAL FUCKING REDHEAD for MJ, or Ned Leeds not being fat, or Flash not being some rich twat poo.
it never will unfortunately. insomniac made it for PS4-only and sony recently buying them means all their games will
be PS4-only from here on out
The last time we got Spock out of it. But well, after the last ten years, I'm used to ASM being trash.
HULK! HULK! HULK! RELEASE THE HULK MOVIE!
Sony Japan still owns them and is the reason they entered into an agreement with Disney in the first place.
>cbr.com
So Disney loses control of Holland and the Spideyverse?
>Is this why J Jonah appeared at end of Far from home?
>No more spidey crossover with avengers?
>incoming Hardy/Holland SPidey/Venom maximum carnage cinematic universe?
>Black Cat and hot ginger MJ coming?
>Who has the rights to live action Spider Gwen?
>Never liked Holland Man or his movies
>Annoyed that he was meant to be the new main character of the MCU
>Now he is gone
>Hopefully this means that the MCU is not going to rely heavily in one characters as its face
>why make billions when we can make millions?
>venom and Spider-Man movie with Carnage
It’s happening bros
Reboot Avengers because they ran into a corner with B-list Superheroes and Captain Marvel 2 is canceled.
Star Wars is dying btw, LoL
lmao
Fuck Marvel and fuck Disney
Go be a shill somewhere else
MCU gets Spider-man, still can't have Fantastic Four. MCU gets Fantastic Four, Loses Spider-man.
I just want Peter and Johnny's bromance.
sony confirmed for tapping Insomniac to write a spider-man reboot movie
Btw Didn't just can't up and buy Sony like they did Fox. There are laws in place protecting Japanese from hostile American mega corps. Looks like you lose again, mouse.
1) Spider-man completely removed from MCU Pase 4
2) Sony makes like action Miles Morales Spider-man using the popularity of Into the Spiderverse
3) Sony makes crossover Venom/Spider-man movie
Absolute brilliant scheme by Sony, they planned this all along, using Marvel and Feige to repair all the damage sone by Amazing Spider-man 2, then totally fucking over Feige.
so can Sony make a Spider-Man movie with Holland that is kinda a sequel to Far from Home (without MCU characters) or is that a no-go?
*dabs on your franchise*
FOX CEO rigged this shit since the beginning, HE's twice as richer now and he's waiting to move on and buy all of it back from the Satanic rat.
FUCKING AUSTRALIANS, THE ULTIMATE SHITPOSTERS EVEN ON IRL BUSINESS!
It was a good deal, 50/50 for both parties, Sony wanted 95% box office profits+merchandise rights, obviously disney told them to fuck off
OH BOY I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE THIRD (3RD) FRANCHISE REBOOT IN SEVEN YEARS!
You don't see the problem in a Spider-Man sequel that has zero MCU references when the first two heavily embed the characters and setting within that world? Though that's not even going to be the case as they will have to recast the characters all over again and will likely do yet another fucking origin story.
>MCU spidey isn't Iron kid, though.
Shirley you jest.
Insomniac doesn't own the Spiderman IP last I checked, sport.
It seems they do since they've been cooking the books.
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start a gofundme for school supplies and get yourself a ps4. you deserve it, fuck those kids
No, Disney got too greedy. Their "altered deal" was madness.
>using Marvel and Feige to repair all the damage sone by Amazing Spider-man 2, then totally fucking over Feige.
Those pricks.
Do you not know how to read?
The deal was that Disney would get all the merchendise from these movie, which is actually much more than the movie's gross, and Sony would keep the box office revenue
This new deal was that Disney wanted to have all the merch AND get 50%. Sony would have been losing their ass on this deal.
>Miles Morales
>popularity
It was the ensemble cast that carried the film .
Miles cannot do it on his own.
>they will have to recast the characters all over again
No, they won't.
>and will likely do yet another fucking origin story.
Nope.
Can't wait for it to bomb again like the "Amazing " movies did.
Well they obviously can't handle it, they haven't made a single piece of worthwhile Spidey media since Spider-Man 2, plus they killed off Spectacular which was great. Venom makes money from its meme appeal and Spider-Verse gets a wokeness Oscar, and suddenly Sony thinks they have in it in them again, they're in for a rude awakening. Watch as Disney just buy them out for their arrogance.
Venommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Not confirmed yet, but it may, in fact, be so.
IS THIS THE END OF IRON BOY!?!?
>Fuck off back to R3ddit you stupid niggerfaggot poltard. Disney is based and redpilled.
Good. Fuck the MCU
On screen, I hope
People keep saying that Sony can't make a good Spider-Man movie but I'd take them making a bad, underexposed movie about him over Feige dragging him through the dirt in the most high profile film franchise of all time in a heartbeat.
They also asked for Sony to help fund 50% of the movies since Disney was doing a lot of that while only gaining 5% of opening grossing. The jewish mouse was being really generous before now.
He was never Iron-boy.
But Disney doesn't need Spidey, especially when shit like Black Panther and Captain Marvel makes a billion on cinema, and especially not after getting all the fox characters back
Sony will regret walking away from the deal in 5 years
>tfw corporate warfare with private security forces is becoming increasingly likely
>tfw PepsiCo at one point in the 90s had a top 6 Navy worldwide
Where were you when the Superhero Wars kicked off?
Tv/ is full of retarded poltards schizos that need to have sex.
RHODEY FOR NEW MAIN CHARACTER
Don't kid yourself.
>they ran into a corner with B-list Superheroes and Captain Marvel 2 is canceled.
>WB/DC played the long game waiting out Marvel's contracts with their A-team leads to retire the roles.
>Miles cannot do it on his own.
In a post-Black Panther makes over 1 billion/we have had 3 white Spider-men world, he can now.
Miles Morales Spidey movie is fucking guaranteed now.
IT'S TIME FOR THE GOOPY BOYS TO REUNITE
Just as the Inhumans replaced the Xmen and the FF got cancelled for years, who's gonna be the one to take away the focus from Spiderman in comics?
>They also asked for Sony to help fund 50% of the movies
That's not what that means. Disney would now have to get a cut, 50%, of the box office if they took that deal. Sony didn't need the 50% funding which would just mean they would sign over 50% of the gross.
>pitying the subsidiary of the Walt Disney Company and the producer of Avengers: Endgame: Fuck Cameron Cut
>IS THIS THE END OF IRON BOY!?!?
>He was never Iron-Boy.
No, you see, Tony Stark was the MCU version of Uncle Ben! HE'S the one who gave Peter his moral compass! So it only makes SENSE that MCU Peter was being molded into Iron Manboy!
Did you even WATCH the movies?
yes, also all movies are made at a loss and hollywood is a money laundering scheme
>The Sony cultists vs Mousketeers.
I can't figure out which group is more obnoxious and autistic, to be honest. Will watch this one closely.
So who's gonna replace Holland?
We getting Live Action Miles?
sony is retarded
feige WANTED venom. he's not an idiot and knows how talented an actor like tom hardy is
> Intriguingly, the report notes that Marvel wanted to expand its relationship with Sony to include the extended supporting characters like Venom. However, the latest developments make that outcome even more unlikely.
sony is so incompetent
This is your mind on late stage capitalism.
This could be easily solved by letting Marvel be in control of Homecoming Spidey and it's respective cast and Sony rebooting the Raimi Spider-Man and it's respective cast. With the Spider-Verse movie, it opened up the general public to multiple universes.
Raimi Spider-Man would fit in more with the Sony Venom anyway and a Spider-Man 4 that continues Raimi's movies would have enough following to make bank.
Best AU, fingers crossed for 2 as a launch title for PS5
>Reports are that Disney was to split financing costs 50/50 with Sony. Previously, Sony was only responsible for about 5% of financing.
This is a massive mistake on Sony's part. Yeah, I get Disney loves to play hardball, but they've basically revived the Spider-Man brand by incorporating him into the MCU. Having it be a 50/50 split isn't nearly unfair.
I'm almost positive that this is Sony getting greedy with Venom's success and them wanting to push a Spider-Man/Venom based cinematic universe.
Ant-Man, Hulk and War-Machine as the new trinity soon
Read the article: Holland, the cast and the director are staying for at least 2 more movies, but no Feige or Marvel Studios involvement.
Oh boy, I can't wait to repeat this process when Spectacular Spider-man 2 flops.
>tfw i actually bought a ps4 just so i could play it
RDJ seems to be broken again and it appears that he is back on the Sugarpowder once more.
Also They fucked themselves over during the election
>FOX CEO rigged this shit since the beginning, HE's twice as richer now and he's waiting to move on and buy all of it back from the Satanic rat.
>FUCKING AUSTRALIANS, THE ULTIMATE SHITPOSTERS EVEN ON IRL BUSINESS!
I think we found our IRL Doctor Doom.
>waiting out Marvel's contracts with their A-team leads
Reminder that there are actually zoomers in this thread who think Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America were always A-list names and the MCU wasn't what made them that way.
Reminder that grandmas know who Rocket Raccoon is nowadays.
I fucking hate both but Spider-Man's been ridiculously mishandled in Sony's hands, at least with Disney I can hope I won't have to watch Peter use Bing again.
>Having it be a 50/50 split isn't nearly unfair.
It is when the other 50% takes all the sales from merchandise and licensing.
Now that's done I can easily say I'd trade all Spider-Man MCU involvement for Spectacular season 3 happening back in 2010.
The MCU trully died for me after endgame.
without Holland, I dont care about spiderman.
How the fuck are they going to pull off a direct sequel to films set in the MCU without directly referencing anything MCU related?
Are yoh aware that Sony sold the rights to all the merchandise amd Tv rights for spiderman to Disney for an extention so that they could make Amazing Spider Man?
where does he fit into this
They're going to tank the franchise by killing holland off in the next one and going forward with a miles movie, its going to be shit
So now Feige has to work around whatever retarded shit Sony decides to pull out? Like Suddenly crossing the movie over with Venom's?
Calling it now, this won't last.
I would say Sony is going to do Miles Morales, too. They cannot use Tom Holland with all the ties he has to the MCU, it is a total recast, and look at all the people on Yea Forums that love into the Spiderverse more than Far From Home.
>D-disney doesn't need Spidey anyway!
THEY SURE WANTED THAT 50/50 ARRANGEMENT THOUGH!
I hope you get the chance some time. Got any friends who have a PS? Maybe they'd let you borrow it.
READS THE ARTICLE
>Disney asked that future Spider-Man films be a 50/50 co-financing arrangement between the studios, and there were discussions that this might extend to other films in the Spider-Man universe.
That's exactly what it means unless you can prove I'm a financial retard. Co-financing doesn't mean just grossing, it also means funding.
Nowhere was it stated that it involved the merch as well. Hell, the PS4 game is merch and Disney doesn't get a cut of that.
in HELL and sucking gargatuan horsecocks
You guys are laughing now but when they reboot into Live Action Miles you're gonna be begging for Disney to come back.
Holland's still contracted to Sony for another Spidey movie. Sony are gonna wait get another film out with him relatively quickly so they can get average joe to think it's an MCU movie.
Thank god, we can drop this Iron Boy Iron Man wanking parody of Spider-Man made for kids that I don't fucking care for.
>4th reboot when??
No, he stays. As does the director. But no Feige.
It won't work.
Nobody knows him, outside of comics his character recognition is next to nil.
He wasn't even the most popular character in the film despite being the "headliner"
And now they have to rework and star over with Spider-Man movies again.
Miles will never have a film that isn't establishing Peter Parker as Spider-Man first. And even then they'll be the Creed to Spider-Man's Rocky. They are okay at best, but they aren't Rocky.
They got those properties back but those films are years off, probably 5 or more before you'll see anything result from it, even something like a cameo. You can say whatever you want about FFH or Homecoming but Holland is beloved by Normies, and him no longer being a part of the MCU is a serious blow it's stability.
I'm only concerned about how this is going to affect my Spider-kino though. Right now some pasty Nerd is probably making some petition to have Disney or Sony re-consider or or worse, Attempt to boycott all Sony Picture Spider-man films going forward until they are 'forced' to re-deal or sell back the rights. I just want more Spiderverse, fuck this gay shit.
>Nowhere was it stated that it involved the merch as well
That's literally how the deal to get Spiderman in the MCU was for. Disney gets the merch and sony keeps the box office, which is why people were calling Sony stupid at the time because the merchandising makes way way more than the box office gross.
>This would force Sony to recast him.
Sony's rebooting no matter what at this point.
BUT MUH REFERENCES
Sony is American now
All of those are great instead of the last one, make Mayday Parker happen
This isn't surprising. Venom making money proved to them that they can do a whole cinematic universe based around the symbiotes and Spidey.
Hell, doesn't this me they've recalled a few rights they allowed Disney to use? What character rights got pulled along with this? Also, will Sony have to change large parts of the supporting casts due to them being unique to the Disney productions?
That's exactly what happens, until Holland gets into a mess and quits, and you know this will happen
Years later The MCU will rehire him as Iceman or something, just like the Blade deal
>poach Spider-Man becomes hated again and goes back into the trash
Yes, please!
I'm not calling the heroes "A-team" you boomer. Just noting that the decade of actors that these people grew up with were the leads.
>Tom Holland/Venom soon
say it with me boys
KI NO
>literally the only movies worth watching in the current mcu gone
cool
No, we'll just have no spiderman at all for another decade.
Far From Home made money because it was adjacent to Endgame, like Black Panther and Captain Marvel, not because it was a good movie people liked. Sony is insane to think they'll be able to keep the train going without the MCU.
So no more creepy Uncle Happy
Told you guys they'd back out of it.
Venom gassed their heads up.
Oh well. Get ready for terrible Spidey movies for the next 6 years or so till they come crawling back.
It worked for GotG2, but I don't have faith in Sony, given Raimi-man 1 & 3 + both ASM.
>Mr. Feige, I-I feel so good...
>that washed-up cokehead Amy Pascal actually completely played Feige
JUST
It’s more hilarious when the deal they made prevents both Sony and Disney form using any pf the characters save from Spidey, no more aunt may, no more nigger MJ, no more Ned, etc. So this will be a reboot but keeping Tom
>We're confident we can build off these two movies that hinged on being a part of a greater marvel universe we can't use anymore.
Yeah nah. We're getting a reboot.
It's not that difficult. Spider-Man's core characters are in their ballpark.
Haha, fuck nintendo.
>Nobody knows him
Are you fucking kidding?
Every POC that is a comics fan knows who Miles Morales is. Trust me.
No he isn’t. Black panther has the MCU brand which has been white hot since last year. Miles “movie” only cracked 375 million. They be idiots to do a live action miles, not to mention the firestorm of replacing Peter when he just made over a billion on the last movie.
What is it with Sony and fucking things up after two SM movies?
>Fuck off retard.
No love for antman?
She's been out of Sony for a while.
More like 6 reboots lmao
I wouldn't worry at this point. Feige has the most leverage here. He's probably already let the Disney Execs know he doesn't need a new Spiderman Movie in the next 5 years. The Disney Execs have started the negotiation process with a hard stance. 50/50. The Sony Execs don't really know what to do because that's such a bold change from 5%. Right now they are trying to determine if their creative team can deliver a good spiderman movie and how much would that cost. If they have at least one smart person on their team they will put in a counter offer.
Disney wants control of Venom and the other spin offs, plus higher money stakes. Disney only gets 5 percent of the first gross and merchandise
But the sequel to FFH seems completely dependent on the MCU this is a weird move
Venom making money was a gigantic fluke, and now they think they can make a cinematic universe out of Morbius and Aunt May movies. Sony couldn't make just regular Spider-Man work with TAS, they won't be able to make anything else work.
Given that the Iron-man was probably pushed in by up-top, maybe this will open up the chance to move the story back closer to its inspirations?
I'm scared of having hopes for Spider-man, I've been burned too bad.
They won't. They'll reboot, but they're going to keep saying they won't reboot right up until they do it.
OH NONONONONONONO
MOUSEKETEER SEETHING
It literally says Sony is still making 2 more movies with Holland
They're not. This is just PR speak and they'll slowly shift the narrative over the next year until you're hyped for a fresh new take.
Does this mean Sony is Disney's next target for absorption?
Just don't reference them.
Rewatch Black Panther and count how many MCU references it has aside from Zemo in the beginning and Bucky's appearance in the post-credits.
I am now hyped as fuck for venom 2.
So are they just gonna leave the whole Jonah/Pete thing in Far From Home unresolved now? Or will Tom just not be allowed to interact with other MCU characters?
Because it's not movie merch, it's a standalone game.
Sony did not "want" anything, they were fine with the previous deal. Disney wanted to alter it.
I just dislike Spider-Man in general so I'm having a blast
ITS MAXIMUM CARNAGE TIME, FAGGOTS
Based Sony. Breaking the mouse's monopoly.
I hope Disney fucking kills Sony's future efforts with Spider-man. Say goodbye to any multi-media ad campaigns. Disney needs to throw their clout around and buy out all ad space that Sony would use to promote future spider-man movies too, just to spite Sony til Spider-man's so unprofitable they're begging to sell it to disney.
AUNT MAY SPY MOVIE SOON BROS!
Not likely. Japan wouldn't allow it.
This is terrible news and completely destroying to the MCU. How is it going to go forward without Spiderman? They can't just pretend he doesn't exist but they can't use the character? Holy fuck, what a calamity - this is ten times worse than the Guardians drama we had a few months back. Jesus, Feige and everyone at Disney-Marvel must be fucking pissed.
The ramifications are super big - especially since it's been heavily rumoured that Spider-essential characters like Osborne were going to be central to the MCU moving forward...
Sony's execs are fucking delusional, have you read the leaked mails? They'll just run the IP into the ground again and come begging to daddy Disney to make some money for them again.
Sony Films.
No, it says they're *expected* to return. Expectations can change.
They are gonna bring Slott back. Whenever the MCU doesn't have a character, they kill the comics version. Whenever they gain the character, everything goes good. X-Men has been shit since MCU got popular because Marvel made them shit out of spike. When the MCU got them back, they gave us Hickman X-Men. Marvel is fucking playing us like a violin
They can't afford to do that and i don't think even sony is stupid enough to try
Who'd knew buying fox was a mistake, they're pulling the strings at this moment.
Sony already said they aren't selling Sony Pictures
I have zero interest in seeing a Sony made Spider-man movie. It is going to be another Venom, which is terrible. Now, Sony is going to mess with the MCU continuity. Venom will be in the next Spider-man movie. Hopefully, it will bomb hard. Idiots.
Would never happen. Disney was already pushing anti-trust issues with Fox and had to only acquire the movie aspects.
No way in hell is Disney getting Colombia Pictures.
I'm neither because company loyalty is retarded, I'm just glad Peter doesn't have to be relegated to being Iron Robin anymore in a huge overexposed movie series simply because he's young and Iron Man is popular.
This is amazing news. Without MCU's bullshit, Holland will have a chance to become the actual Spider-Man now. Now they can bring back Mary Jane, Gwen, Oscorp, and maybe even mention Uncle fucking Ben. No Stark, no Avengers, no Iron Lad tech, no Happy, just Spider-Man. Fucking finally.
And do they like him? More than Peter Parker.
Even if they make a sequel it'd be weird for them to not make even a single passing reference to Tony Stark.
And Klaw's missing arm.
HELLO Yea Forums ARE YOU READY FOR A VENOM MOVIE, MAYBE A SINISTER 6, WHY NOT BOTH, WE'LL HAVE ALL THE VILLAINS IN ONE MOVIE, IT'LL BE GREAT, JUST YOU SEE
>no more hot milf aunt May when she was always supposed to be an old woman
How was Raimi the only one who got it right?
So boring shlock just like all the other Sony Spider-Man movies
Also, the plan was apparently to do Dark Avengers. That's the end of that.
This.
There is no honour in taking either side.
beggin ya to have sex
>Fuck off back to R3ddit you stupid niggerfaggot poltard. Have sex incel.
>This is terrible news and completely destroying to the MCU
This is great news
Boring or not, at least those movies felt like Spider-Man movies.
Jesus Christ, Sony.
>Spidey is out
>/ourgirl/ now can come in and easily fill in that "young spunky and awkward superhero teenager who looks up to a older role model"
IT'S HER TIME, LADS
Hope it's just a negotiating tactic.
How about give sony a little kicker in any movie spidey shows up in, any villains being shared are no transitive cost.
Marvel takes 35% off any Main Spidey movies, but also puts in 35% to make them.
Any side character movies Marvel is involved in it's a full 50/50. Any they are not are obviously 100% sony.
Ant-Kino 3 soon
>hey successfully launched their own universe
Venom was basically "we want the deadpool audience" and I doubt it can carry a whole "universe" by itself, unless they're going whole hog with spider-verse instead. The issues with THAT route should be obvious. Really, they made two succesful stand-alone movies which are so disparate in style and even medium that I doubt they'd fit well with Teen Movie MCU expat spider-Man. Not even adressing that fucking everything would be spider-man characters.
The government hasn't enforced anti-trust legislation in decades. No one actually cares that Disney is buying up everything.
So are they gonna reboot WITH Holland or something?
Because everything about the setting is deeply rooted in the MCU... They even seem to imply Mysterio is the way he is because he based himself off of existing heroes like Ironman and Thor, with a little Doctor Strange.
MISTER STARK
>pros
spider-man can work on his own as a character
he has a giant supporting cast that can be worked into a handful of movies in their own right
If they still have holland they still have a likable spidey who can now be spidey without the iron crutch (I didn't hate the connection but I always preferred petes and caps interactions as characters cap is a geat straight man)
>Cons
its sony doing this
Amy Pascal is still involved
There isn't a driving creative force in their stable I feel happy with running the franchise
The critical success of spiderverse will make them push miles
this isn't great but I'll hold something out for it I guess
Why would have emotional stakes in a fight between two billion dollar corporations that give you no money?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE THIS
>Feige just won’t be the lead creative producer of those pictures.
>maybe getting a Spidey/Venom/Carnage movie
Based Sony
>Black Panther and Captain Marvel makes a billion on cinema
In reailty though they're not even close to that.
But shhhh... you'll see that all by yourself in the foreseeable future.
They didn't because there was no Disney to control.
>sony is incompetent
>feige's not an idiot
He's just a hack pushed around by greedy bastards
In the garbage where he belongs.
>those movies felt like Spider-Man movies
Bad ones.
I'm used to my favorite character's IP being grossly mishandled ever since SM3, as long as they don't push live-action Miles I don't give a fuck what happens to the movies.
>its real
>tom holland got fired too
HAHAHAHA
well i aint a poc
so i aint gonna watch a black spiderman, didn't watch black panther either.
Say it with me.
>Overdone, forced catchphrase
They could pivot to kamala as their younger character or maybe nova or speedball
Both
Good. The Mouse can piss off
>We'll be getting another spiderman Reboot
How bout I kick you in the face with my fist?
Well it was already weird when they made Spider-Man movies without even a single passing reference to Uncle Ben, so they should be alright
Now you know how it feels.
they have holland for 2 movies technically, but he could always walk
> feige is a hack
SEETHING tommy
They have holland for two more films. The supporting cast on the other hand is up in the air.
>Disney buys Japan instead
TAKE THAT YOU FUCKIN WEEBS, YOU BELONG TO THE MOUSE.
this
Yet another reboot?
I think Disney still holds the tv rights or whatever it falls under.
They're not going to rein Disney in.
No, from now on, no more acknowledgement of anything Spidey in MCU movies, or anything MCU in Spidey movies.
To be honest it's gonna be harder for Sony to pull off than for Marvel.
HOLY
FUCKING
BAAAAAAAAAAASED
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA
hey, you're the other guy that saw the art of self-defense aren't you
>sony censoring the MCU
HAHAHAHA
>It won't work.
>Nobody knows him, outside of comics
Worked for Guardians of the Galaxy, and Luke Cage
Tom's "Peter" was pretty much just white male Kamala anyways so fuck it, may as well
>Plus, they have Lord and Miller to make a bunch of new Spiderman cartoons and live action shows for them.
Only Lord was involved in Spider-Verse, and his involvement in the series is already over, he won't work on the sequel or any of the spinoffs and shows.
Would Yea Forums watch an Aunt May movie if she was given the Alfred Pennyworth treatment?
I'm sure Disney already has a plan in moton to get it back
Just like they got Gunn back for GOTG3
They can follow the plot threads that are already set up without directly mentioning or showing Stark and such.
No, Sony owns the TV rights and are planning a live action Spider-man show and new cartoons with Lord and Miller taking care of both those things
Will I get a Rachet and Clank x Spider-Man crossover now? Joking aside most of the time Insomniac made there games PlayStation only anyway and from what I know they started out on PlayStation so this was a long time coming.
Fuck this kike bitch
>Feige wants to include Venom, but the retarded sony won't let him
>Feige doesn't want to include Venom, but the retarded sony makes him
Make up your narrative, mice.
Based and racistpilled
Kickpuncher? The man with punches the strength of kicks?
First Spectacular Spider-Man now MCU Spider-Man. God fucking damn it fuck you Sony.
lol. The MCU really needed him as a face for the coming years. He's the one with the most expsoure. He's the most relateable character for the core demographic. He's the legacy to the MCU's former face. Disney shoulda been happy with what they were getting. Sony can probably make a profitable Spider-man movie without MCU references, but the MCU has a giant hole in it now.
Based. An actual revamped X-Men
yep
>Japan
m8, California is the head of Sony nowadays. Hell, Japan were the ones who told Pictures to accept the MCU deal.
So reports are already flying that Holland is getting recast...
This could be a disaster, not only for Sony, but for the MCU. We're in a gap period where Spider-Man and others were going to have solo stories to build them up for the next big villain. Doctor Strange and Spider-Man were going to be the next two heavy hitters.
I'm wondering if the X-men are going to show up a lot earlier than originally planed now.
>....and where did that bring you? Back to me
fuck off back to Yea Forums idiot
Probably, but with Gunn all they had to do was pretend to fire him while people were angry and then bring him back once everyone forgot.
The leftover plot threads are Mysterio and his men though... who are disgruntled Stark employees.
Based Sony BTFO the mouse
Sony will fuck it up in the end, like they always do and may or may not come crawling back, only time will tell.
Difference is that one of those characters was a essential part of the movies while Uncle Ben was barely even alluded to. MCU spider-man functionally replaced Uncle Ben with Iron Man and built the plot of both its movies on Iron Man. It's not going to work. Retconning continuity is one thing, chopping THE central figure to Peter's character arc, current supporting cast and even villains and pretending he never existed is going to end very badly for Sony
I don't get how important execs can possibly be this retarded/delusional and stay in business
They have to make and establish the FF. If they don’t theres no future.
>not only for Sony
Is it really that bad for them? They can just reboot for the 29th time. They always make money no matter how shitty they get.
>Disney wants to alter the deal out of pure greed
>Sony refuses, but keeps making Holland movies
>Disney are somehow the victims
Feige can always hire Holland to appear as Peter [Last Name Not Mentioned]; The Night Monkey on the next Avengers.
Captain Marvel 2 was canceled? lol
>Kamala gets into the MCU.
>They keep her backstory pretty much the same.
>We get another chance for a full blown inhumans movie.
I know that a bit too fair out there but that' just my brain going too fair. either way well done kiddo.
>"Sony Marvel character TV shows"
Says nothing about them working on any Spider-Man media
They could make a profitable movie if they kept the cast, but they'll reboot. That's the worst course of action, so of course they'll take it.
>Disney fucks them over on Solo
>Sony takes their toys back from Feige and makes them the showrunners on the entire Spider-franchise
Poetic justice.
piss off snydercel
Just wait 6 or 7 years while Sony fucks the movies again, then return to the table and this time buy all the Spiderman licences back
Justify it as Holland going into hiding because of the identity reveal, then coming back as an older and wiser Parker in some big crossover MCU mobie, shit would be hype
Marvel waited 4 phases without heavy hitters lile the Xmen, they can wait some more without Peter, especially taking into account how little that character amounted to the modern MCU anyway, he was just playing second fiddle to Iron Man for 4 movies
So does this mean no more MCU Spider-Man? Well shit, of all things it was Sony that ended the MCU
RIP MCU 2008-2019, rest in shit.
>Retards seething this hard because they think there'll never be Stark wank in the MCU ever again
Don't worry bud they'll find a way. They'll find some other character to warp and ruin.
Perlmutter hates Feige and Marvel still has all the rights to merchandising outside live action movies so no, Spidey is safe.
>I don't get how important execs can possibly be this retarded/delusional and stay in business
You underestimate just how brainless these suits can be when it comes to creative decisions. Keep in mind that these are the people that wanted an aunt May solo movie.
>especially when shit like Black Panther and Captain Marvel
Emphasis on shit
Duh, happens all the time. Look up Hollywood accounting to be really mad.
I just wish Sony would stop censoring their shit. The MCU can burn post endgame anyway.
You're right user I can't wait to see Miles get his famous stories villains and character interactions adapted to the big screen. Lets see you have his uncle dying, and then... you have his uncle almost dying, then you have... the fact that he's black. That's all Bendis wrote Miles to be and that's all he'll ever be hell even as much as saladin is trying the best he can do is make him peter but with a family. It's why he's leaning into the multiverse schtick even though every single spider knock off is doing that right now
TAS was an absolute disaster and Andrew Garfield is box office poison
i can't wait to see uncle ben die again
HA! Now fucking Sony can sue them if they even so much as mention Spidey. Homecoming and Far From Home will now be lost films.
whats the point of watching the MCU now
>Boom! You looking for this?
You can't go from characters and a setting steeped in references to a sequel where suddenly those references are no longer there without it making no fucking sense.
So is this why they forced marvel to release it this year? Just to fuck them over?
sony is going full miles morales mode now.
AND THAT CHARACTERS NAME IS DR. STEPHEN STRANGE
I don't give a fuck if Sony's the victim, I want more MCU.
>SEETHING
Did you mean "WINNING"?
enjoy your Sonyman movies, mouse cuck.
japan has culturally appropriated America's most beloved super hero from us. Their ultimate revenge for hiroshima
God forbid the nigga do his own thing. Its fucking Spider-Man. He has never needed those other losers
I believe you on the Carol part, Tchalla got the cinemas packed and people cheering the 3 times I went to watch it tho, and there isn't even a big community of black people on my coty
The first Spiderman literally has the Fantastic 4 on it. They’ve divorced them in the worst way.
Wait till they reboot Daredevil for their films now that they need a big screen street hero to replace Spider-Man.
And it'll be fucking shit.
not seeing how marvel is losing here, they can just pull another c-list hero out of their asses like iron man to make the new front runner
Looks like Benedict Cucumber is about to get a pay raise
>Holland is still Spider-Man and Jon Watts is still set to direct two more sequels.
Does Sony seriously not get that the end of Far From Home was supposed to send Peter swinging off into the wider Marvel universe?
(Of course they don't. They don't even bother to watch the movies based on the e-mail leaks.)
Am I mis-remembering the contracts or does Marvel still have the rights to use Spidey in their live-action TV series?
heh
>and Spider-Verse gets a wokeness Oscar,
fuck off, Spider-verse is based
You just linked the same article
>Marvel's done literally everything they could possibly do with the character, any more movies would be redundant at this point
>Best case scenario, we get more Into the Spiderverse movies
>Worst case scenario, we get yet another reboot that will flop horribly, and we won't have to put up with more Spider-bullshit for another decade
I see no problem here
>chopping THE central figure to Peter's character arc
They already did that to Ben, that's what I'm saying. Spider-Man is not an MCU OC. Not to mention the fact that something that wasn't Iron Man motivated him to become Spider-Man just before Civil War and they put Ben's initials on Peter's suitcase for like half a second in FFH. Yet, whatever it was that motivated him or whose suitcase it is is never mentioned. I'm not saying it's not stupid to cut Tony out of this story at this point, I'm only saying they've done it before.
The MCU is fucking dead. Bury it.
So now instead of getting sexually assaulted by older women, Holland is gonna get sexually assaulted by a goo monster voiced by Hardy?
After the Sony e-mail leaks, I give them 5-6 years before they come crawling back. Colombia pictures is an absolute shit show and upper execs have no fucking idea what they are doing. Venom and Spidervere went to their heads.
They SHOULD have let Feige incorporate Venom and then let Disney keep doing Spider-Man/Venom movies. They could have easily been working on building up Spiderverse into its own cinematic universe behind the scenes.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BUT MUH BASED DISNEY
Except they can't use any MCU material without Disney's approval so they'll have to scrap almost everything including Peter's motivation after Endgame, Happy's involvement, maybe even the armors, and who knows in what legal loophole character like Michelle J, Not-Ganke Ned, and Indian Flash are.
Ant-Man and Strange
But without involvement in the MCU? Sony can't be dumb enough to think that wasn't the reason FFH did so well.
Problem is for the past three movies he's been iron mans bitch.
Though lucky for sony iron man is now dead so they don't have to deal with him mysteriously dropping out of his life.
That was different in the sense that GotG were set in space and firmly away from the rest of the MCU (at the time). With Spider-Man you have a Parker that is directly influenced by Tony Stark and a setting where MCU characters are common place. I'm not saying I particularly dug either of those things but story wise it's going to be a mess.
>Oh fuck off
Yeah, that's exactly what Sony did.
>MFW Disney announces a brand new Deadpool movie over the weekend
>MFW Disney releases the movie on the same day any of the Sony Spidey movies get released
SHIEEEEET
>jesus fucking christ, why does snoy have to ruin everything!?!
Sony is trying to sell the Sony Pictures studios and they want to be able to tout sole ownership of Spider-man as a selling point.
All of this stuff about Disney wanting a bigger share is smoke -- Sony WANTED to break the contract.
Retard
IRONMAN DIED FOR NOTHING
>all my friends who loved FFH are assblasted
Who fucking cares, Into the Spider-Verse was the best Spider-Man movie in years.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
MKEKS BTFO
RAIMI SPIDER-MAN PART 4 BITCHES
Sony what the fuck are you doing
You're going to fucking backslide
Very little about Sony's movie business is remotely Japanese. It's all just a bunch of American movie studios that Sony decided to buy.
me irl
>Does Sony seriously not get that the end of Far From Home was supposed to send Peter swinging off into the wider Marvel universe?
How so?
>next Spider-man movie will be a nonsensical trainwreck with 2 cool scenes like Venom
oh boy
I'd rather have Miles Miles rather than watered down White Miles: Iron Man edition.
At this point I'd just take a solid serialized Spider-man tv series.
A straight up faithful adaptation will never work for a Spider-man movie, just give me a series that starts at the beginning (though in HS for no more than one season) and follows Peter up to Mayday.
I will take a fan4stick style reboot over more Start dicksucking and Feige getting his grubby hands over Spiderman
Why would you want Disney to buy them anyway?
>He won't mention Mr. Stark anymore
Thank fuck
Raimi is dead, user.
*sip*
Not so funny anymore isn't it?
Can we get that Spider-Man vs. Sinister Six movie now? Get a proper Vulture and Mysterio, add maybe Rhino, Scorpion, a real Shocker, and throw in Kraven.
Dis gon b gud.
>The Sony execs were excited about the positive reception to the Popeye teaser.
>Amy Pascal personally didn’t like it so she scrapped the entire project for that reason.
Don’t remind me...
Real talk, how does the MCU counterattack?
Resurrection of Stark as a younger man like the comics? Riri? Turn that IM3 kid into a proper IronLad? Introduce another succesful young superhero to look up to the stablished mcu avengers?
Guess that's it for any plans to use Osborn in the MCU.
I AM CACKLING!!!
There were so many fags who were just going on and on about how the MCU should revolve around Spider-Man, building plots like "Dr. Strange opens a gateway to other dimensions for the other Spider-Men to team up", and just hooting like morons when he showed up on screen. AND NOW HE IS OUT! I am laughing so hard!
Fuck Spider-Man fans!
damn
Wow, Sony new when to strike! There is no way this doesn’t hurt the MCU
It wasn't even a Spider-Man movie
What's this going to mean for that Spider-verse tv series? I was looking forward to that.
>reading this thread and all of the things people think is going to occur
I thought school started back up already. Some of you are so fucking spiteful or hopped up on this company war bullshit. Do half you spend all your time thinking about how angry you are at movie companies?
>spider-man doesn't have to be connected to Iron Man
YES
>Produced by Amy Pascal and Avi Arad
...
Cool, now Holland can be kept on the MCU as a different character
I like the kid, he deserves a good job
>Riri?
Even diversityfags dont like Riri
>Get ready for terrible Spidey movies for the next 6 years
So same as usual then?
I'm going to guess that the real deal killer from Sony's perspective is that Disney will also get to use Spiderman in any of their movies, as long as it isn't a stand-alone Spiderman film, without Sony's involvement. This is not a good deal and Disney is overreaching.
Actual Spider-Fags are overjoyed right now, only MCUcks and casuals who know nothing about the character are mad.
>Implying Sony isn't a crystallization of pure capitalism just as much as Disney
Imagine being this unaware.
>or we can bring back one of the older actors?
Fans are so fucking stupid, holy shit. You actually believe this has a chance of happening now? Did you forget it was SONY that completely fucked over Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield, not Disney?
I can't imagine there isn't a clause that reverts control of the franchise back to marvel in case the studio get sold
I can't believe that the mouse was played off by freaking Sony. Topest kek.
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MILES WAS IN IT
It was a Spider-Man film. We still got the best Peter Parker and Spider-Man we've gotten in fucking years. Stay mad.
>Ant Man
Is box office poison who Disney will never allow a major role in a film again.
>Strange
Benedict Cumberbatch has 0 star power and this'll probably be the last Doctor Strange movie.
cope
me rn desu
fuck sony wheres my didney worl
Just how many times does Sony need to fail in making Spider-Man before they accept they don't know how to do it?
Also, expect the Xmen or FF to get the teenage treatment in order to keep up a fresh face for years, now that Spidey lost that place
So it's either gonna be Ultimate Xmen or Ultimate FF instead of nature actors now
Guess what Academy Award winning movie was produced by these two last year?
Underrated
to fucking own the weebs duh
hope disney hires a hitman to start killin sony ceos til they comply, that'd be based
Fanboys have very short memories. They ignore all the shit Sony has churned out.
Based, fuck spider-man fans
>Denying Disney
That's a bold move. Lets see how it works out.
It was a movie featuring Spider-Man, but it wasn't a Spider-Man movie. If "featuring Spider-Man" is the criteria, then Infinity War was the best Spider-Man movie in years.
Guess we know who Based Disney is buying next
Sony and Disney can also pretend to be divorcing user whike they bargain user, sure the stakes are higher, but in the end money talks, personal feelings aren't important when I comes to mega corporations
What would it take for Marvel to buy the rights back completely?
Tell me what the title of this movie is.
All I'm saying is that they have no choice but to do yet another reboot because otherwise it isn't going to make any damn sense.
The truth is, it's probably a shit-show put out by Disney and Sony to check reaction.
For anyone to think that any of these companies work independently of one another,
Well, that's quite naive.
>Marvel is fucking playing us like a fiddle
Ftfy
They legally cannot.
It had five producers, two others of which are more than likely responsible for the quality.
>Actual Spider-Fags are overjoyed right now
Actual Spider-Fags are who have destroyed Spider-Man comics for the last twenty-years.
Like Sony would ever let go of sm rights.
I am just glad we won't be getting Osborn in the MCU.
There's no legal way they can without giving up Fox and therefore forefitting those X-Men/Fantastic Four rights they just got back.
I love how fucked Disney is, and with the news of them artificially inflating their revenue...its the end, the bitter end.
New release of Avengers and Civil War with Peter edited out plz
What does this mean for my boy PS4 Spidey? Is the sequel safe?
Sony knows how to fuck every single thing up.
I think it would just mean swapping out Norman Osborn for someone else.
Which sucks for me, I was looking forward to that.
>the Academy Awards
>ever having any bearing on the quality of the movies being judged in any capacity ever
I guess Big Hero 6 is better than The Boxtrolls then
The death of Sony
Not really
>NUH UH IM A SPIDER-MAN FAN AND ALL SPIDER-MAN FANS SHARE THE SAME OPINION AS MYSELF
X-Men would always need to be mostly young actors since they'll probably justify them as mutants being very rare previously, but many awakening now at once.
They dissolve fox and now there's no problem
Miles is ten times the Spider-Man Holland's private jet flying, billionaire worshipping ass is.
Also
>Infinity War
>good
Pick one.
See
Boy I love MCU drama.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Amy and Arad were the masterminds behind Spider-Verse
Actual Spider-Fag here, can't be more excited to see this happening.
Fuck Iron Man Jr. and fuck the mouse. Sony probably won't do the character justice because their movies suck but I'm just glad that MCU schlock is over.
Civil War: The Daredevil+Agent 13 cut
Literally as nothing to do with this. Sony just bought Insomniac studios
I'm 99% sure they took such a hard line because they don't think they need spiderman to succeed. So this is more of a loss for sony than anything else
Won't happen. Disney weren't even prepared to match Sony Pictures' valuation of his film rights back in 2014 when they were bleeding money fast and actually in danger of going under. Now Sony Pictures are actually doing well and Spidey's far more valuable than he was back following TAS2, they're absolutely gonna want even more.
>Sony crawling
>Sony should have let
Disney were the ones who tried to change the deal, read the article. Sony would be retards to agree to that.
It's simple, really. The old George Lucas principle of "keeping the merchandise rights" is not that good nowadays. Kids are dumb, and might as well buy Chinese knock-off shit, and most parents prefer to saddle their kid with youtube rather than buy actual toys. Disney understood, that there's just not that many Spidey MOVIE merch being bought and wanted more money.
Seething mcuck
>Spidey: But I want to stay here with my family!
>SonySuit1: Nein, Mista Spinne-Mann! Deinnen Mouse is over! Zey haben made du a success! Now ve want ALL the marks!
>Spidey: Can’t you give them another chance?! Besides, aren’t there more important things than money?
>Sonysuit1: NEIN! NEIN! NEIN! NEIN! Money ist all that iz important!! Right, Adolf?
>SonySuit2: Ya, Hans. I kan't vait to make the Venom/Spider-Mann crossover and silver sable movie! Then Maximum Carnage and Trouble!
>SonySuit1: Meinen Schnitzel is so hard!
>SonySuit2: Don't forget the skateboarding und dubstep! Sieg Hiel!!!
Feige was an idiot, it was always a bad deal for his MCU, you don't let another company own half of your toys, especially one as conflictive as Sony
Whelp I think this confirms Phase 4 Spider-Man as not going to be relevant at all. Phase 4 keeps looking more and more Fuckey. Lets just skip to Phase 5 with some Muties and skip the All NU marvel phase.
Fucking nice
It's videogames, it's fine
If you think any version of Peter Parker could be Iron Man's ward, you're not a fan of the character. Sorry to have to inform you of that, but it doesn't make you a bad person or anything just because you don't like a fictional character.
Does this mean once Disney folds because of the financial hemmorhage that is Star Wars and their parks that Sony could purchase Marvel Studios?
AHAHAHAAHAHA GET FUCKED MCU FAGS
Thank fuck no more iron spider
prepare for uncle Ben to die again next summer
alright you got me there i fucking love paul rudd as antman, i didn't think the second one was that good though
The funny thing is that Spider-Verse only works narratively because it's an explicit elseworlds story. Spidey being killed by the Kingpin of all people, dumbass monster Norman, Gweny-stu, blacking, all of this stuff would make Yea Forums explode with rage if the premise wasn't "this isn't the real spider-man, guys."
Yeah, it was a Spider-People movie.
good, i hope spidey dies just so sony can't profit off him
Nothing, Marvel Studios and Marvel Games are basically different companies, just like Sony Pictures and the PlayStation division.
Perlmutter isn't around anymore to force petty shit like the X-Men/FF ban in Marvel vs Capcom Infinite, so videogames aren't gonna be effected by this. Hell, MUA3's DLC is plugging Sony's Morbius movie.
The mouse owns a shitons of properties right now, they can offer an exchange for the spidey rights like the Terminator franchise, Alien, Pretator, you name it.
I'm calling it fuckers, marvel is going to keep Holland but bring him back as bag man and or other spidey alts. /night monkey/ hours.
It's a good thing, really. Anyone with even a modicum of integrity doesn't care about the MCU beyond Endgame. Whether in the unlikely scenario that Sony actually manages to make a good movie, or in a much more likely scenario where it's a beatiful trainwreck, we have a show to look forward to.
The sequel is going to be woke as fuck.
Just to inform people that don't know that Sony(Playstation not Sony Pictures, they are separate entities of a larger company) obtained the Spiderman GAME license from Activision a few years back and went to Insomniac asking if they wanted to make the game in which they said yes. As of now Sony(Playstation) has the exclusive game rights to Spider-man regardless of any deals with disney, and Playstation will have the game rights for a few years. Playstation Sony and Sony Pictures have very little crossover with each other except for the occasional promotional costume (ITSV Suit and Raimi Suit) and even then it's not easy considering the Raimi suit was only released 2 months after the game released due to legal issues with Columbia Pictures (which is owned by Sony Pictures)
NOOOOOOO!!!! FUCK YOU SONY!!!
The name has nothing to do with it, I could rename Thor: Dark World into "Lego Movie 3" and it wouldn't be a Lego movie
If the movies were anything close to a box office bomb it might be true, he just looks small compared to others but is not even a flop plus he has a comfy place in Avengers movies because Feige and Disney know that he is a scene stealer in any crossover that he is in, same for Strange after Infinity War
All depends on how negotiations went. If Disney gets bitter enough we could end up with a Spider-ban, like what happened to X-Men and F4 for a while.
>Don't forget the skateboarding und dubstep! Sieg Hiel!!!
Kek
The legality of any action by a multinational corporation should be judged by how much money they have. Disney can just about do whatever it wants.
Look at what the FF and the X-men looked like for the last few years before the buy back, literal shit and nothingness. I have no doubt that a big reason Marvel let slott stay on the title for so long was because he showed no interest in actually improving the franchise just tank it (post superior). So I wouldn't doubt Disney would actively hurt the brand in order to hurt sony
Yeah but Guardians was a competent studio giving the franchise to a great director, I don't see sony doing that. Also what is Miles? Are they going to kill peter off in the beginning of the movie again? Whose he going to fight his uncle? He doesn;t have any villains or stories you can adapt to the big screen its why spiderverse only used him in a 3rd of it despite him being the main character, and they still used EVERY ONE OF HIS STORIES in one movie
I know it’s not happening, I’m being hypothetical
>bring back one of the older actors?
The Oscar's are shit but Big Hero 6 is absolutely better than everything else nominated that year.
Both
Disney is still apparently making their 2017 show by the sounds of it.
How do the tv rights work?
Spectacular got cancelled when Disney bought Marvel in the first place right?
>Spider-Verse
>acceptable in any shape or form
Pick one
>ITS NOT A SPIDER-MAN FILM BECAUSE I SAID SO
Its called Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse. Neck yourself you assblasted baboon.
Point being "real Spider-Man fans" have the worst track record with the character.
Seriously, it's scary how much money Sony will get if they just make a 4th Raimi film, people love those, that's always a safe place for the studio
Blade/Punisher/Ghost Rider vs Vampire movie when?
Explain to me how it was not a good movie.
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Quesada and his ilk don't represent even 5% of Spider-fags
The issue is that most of what Disney got out of the Spider-deal was the Captain America/Avengers appearances, and there won't be similar crossovers for a while in the future going by how the next phase has been laid out.
Spiderfags killed Peter's infant daughter.
Spiderfags had Peter made a deal with the devil.
Spiderfags destroyed Peter's marriage because the author was going through a divorce and mid-life crisis.
Spiderfags destroyed Peter's career as a teacher and eventually his status as successful business owner.
Spiderfags had Spider-man belittle and insult a man that attempted to kill Carnage after Carnage ate his family in front of him.
>Now ve want ALL the marks!
Disney are the ones trying to change the deal.
integrity's for fags
They should just say fuck it and make a live-action Spider-Verse
Spider-Man is a bigger brand than all of these. The only way they would accept if Disney offers Micky to them which means never.
Sweet, now we can get a proper Mysterio who's motivation is his massive ego, unlike muh Stark mean 2 meee!
see
You literally have no argument
So what are the odds this was a power move by Sony?
The MCU is in a transition phase right now with Phase 4. It's the perfect time to strike.
Fucking shit, we just lost the dark reign! Now that actually makes me mad!
Jesus Christ, what a ride on every board right now LMAO
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Miles had a suit gifted to him (including webshooters because he's too dumb to engineer them himself). Holland-Man made a "poor kid from Queens" suit and then made a fancier one. I get that neither are ideal for Yea Forums, but I can't think of any reason Spiderverse is so loved when it does so many of the things that piss Yea Forums off.
You're the one saying a Spider-Man film doesn't count as a Spider-Man film.
What is your argument exactly?
>This whole post
Liking worst Spider-Man
I stopped buying spider-man comics after superior, I didn't pay to see the amazing movies or spiderverse. Fuck I bought a PS4 to get the game and have only supported the comics doing what I like, I don't know what else you want. Editorial and Bendis have been destroying the character for the last two decades
can't wait
@109470625
dilate
>Perlmutter isn't around anymore to force petty shit like the X-Men/FF ban in Marvel vs Capcom Infinite, so videogames aren't gonna be effected by this.
Games are Marvel Entertainment though, so he could force that.
>Hell, MUA3's DLC is plugging Sony's Morbius movie.
Because they've traditionally had a good relationship. It depends on how much this will sour it.
Consider suicide
>Actual Spider-Fag here
Back when Sony was in the shithole they wanted 4 billions, according to the email leaks
Bow that FFH made so much money? Disney would probably need 8B to buy the rights back
Now we'll have
>Actual chadcel Flash Thompson who isn't some pajeet.
>An MJ who isn't a forcibly blackwashed nigger.
>Proper adaptations of classic villains.
>A Peter who HAS motivation.
>Black Cat/Peter Parker/MJ love triangle.
>Black Cat probably won't be a nigger.
>they ruin what's left of the good stuff (ghostbusters)
Not in Sony's hands, their Spider-Man was outperformed by MCU's C and D listers
No more Mysterio m8, the Disney/Sony deal stablish that if the partneship end, Mysterio gets stuck in limbo, and no party would be allowed to used them in any movie. Same witht he Vulture and the rest of the diverse cast, why do you think MJ is not named Mary Jane? Sony will have to recast all of the existing cast, which will left Tom alone
AHAHAHAHAHA Ladderbro on suicide watch
>Wasted all this time setting up Venom without Spider-Man
>They can cross over and he can have the White Spider logo now
Bit of a fuck up really.
>Spectacular
>PS4 Spider-man
>Into the Spider-verse
They have a better track run than Disney, at least in some form
100%, de-MCUifed holland is useless to them and rebooting spider-man yet again would be stupid, they just want to squeeze the mouse for a bit
How the fuck so? The only Sony live action Spidey movies that done him any justice were the first two Raimi flicks. What has given you any faith that Sony will not fuck this up like they did with the Amazing films? At least the MCU offerings were entertaining.
Tom Holland and the director are signed for two more movies apparently. I'm pretty sure they'll at least attempt to make a sequel to Far From Home in spite of the obvious issues of suddenly being unable to mention Stark.
in which he spends the whole movie trying to Hulk out again but never does
>Benedict Cumberbatch has 0 star power and this'll probably be the last Doctor Strange movie.
>This bullshit
Won’t happen, Strange is now more important than ever. He also literally ties into everything. Maybe even having strange and Spider-Man be a cool duo.
don't forget the most important part
>a dead franchise
get him into college, its where he meets harry and gwen anyway
>ANOTHER Spider-Man origin film incoming
OH GOD NO NOT AGAIN
Sony tried seven times and succeeded twice, Disney tried twice and succeeded twice
3 is going to have multiverse bullshit
Strange is our guy over carol and Wakanda. Hulk is second.
All of those were Sony's ideas dude, prepare for all of that, and worse, and Miles
This is the future you chose
Sony will make movies everyone will forget about soon. If he stayed in the MCU any longer his identity would perhaps become "Iron Man's sidekick" permanently.
>At least the MCU offerings were entertaining
No they weren't, they were bland inoffensive lowest common denominator shit
'm pretty sure Multiverse or Madness is going to turn out to be a pseudo-Avengers movie like Civil War was. We already have Scarlet Witch confirmed and they'll probably throw in more characters but as twist multiverse versions.
Disney being fags was going to lead them to this one way or another.
Also i am surprised so many people don't know Sony fucks shit up all the time.
>rebooting spider-man yet again would be stupid
And this is exactly what they'll be doing. Never bet against Sony doing the absolutely dumbest thing possible.
That's bullshit
WE DID IT VENOMCHADS AND MILESCHADS
IRON BOY IS NO MORE!
I'll give you only Raimi's Spider-Man 1 and 2, everything else except for Into The Spider-verse has been either mediocre or blatant TRASH.
And you really believe they have the power to not fuck up again that franchise, considering the leaked e-mails?
I hate to say this but the writing was on the wall, they already introduced prowler and miles in Homecoming. I always knew Holland would give it up to Miles, then they introduce Gwen, then they fall in love.
All Japanese companies are led by senile ancient geezers surrounded by legions of "respectful" yes-men. They are all retarded as fuck. Even the automobile companies
That was so fucking terrible to see
Working on an image for this thread based on that 'friendship is over' meme, but instead as Tom Holland's friendship is over. Posting a WIP for now because I'm going to be moving a treadmill to a relative's house right now
Shit, I was joking about the identity reveal and hooking up with MJ being build up to backdoor OMD style/Dr Strange assisted retcon to push Peter into a new universe if this deal falls through.
Nice samefaggotry, bitchboy
>As an actual fan of Spider-Man, I'd rather see him put in the incompetent hands of a bunch of fuck ups than have him be tied to Iron Man and Disney.
If you were an actual fan, you'd want to see the character thrive. And like it or not, beyond the forced MCU connections, the MCU offering offered up entertaining stories.
So..either it'll be a
1.) Reboot
2.) Timeskip, Miles as new spiderman
They can't go forward with this as is now without it making no sense, Spiderman has been dick riding iron man for all of his movies
Only interested if Spider-Man is part of the MCU. Last two Sony movies and Venom fucking sucked.
>a character thrives by being vandalized beyond recognition
What did the mouse mean by this?
For all the nostalgia, I don't find the Raimi films that standout. They have good villains, but the relationship drama in the second movie is terrible, and Tobey's work as Pete and Spider-Man just hasn't aged well.
Fuck I would just love a comic of that (with moon knight). I know about Midnight sons but moon knight didn't join till late.
>Ned Leeds is not a fat wierdo
>no more milf Aunt May
Nothing against Tomei, I’ve loved her forever but aunt May is supposed to be an old lady.
>no more “mj”
Finally can we please get a redhead
Hilariously enough the time to bring Miles into the MCU was FFH you could've done something with the old and new spider-men meeting each other
supposedly Holland was against bringing Miles in, the nice thing about keep him in high school in these movies is that putting him right in college in the next one would be a nice way to soft reboot his character
Spider-Verse was good, but it also does about as much "character-assassination" that the MCU does, so I don't get why Yea Forums loves it.
Disney should have anticipated this and done a Clone Saga movie so they could keep Holland as Ben and/or Kaine in Scarlet Spider(s).
Dissolve fox as a studio and acquire Sony
Why the fuck is everyone blaming Sony for this when it seems like what really happened was
>Sony makes a decent movie
>Disney asks for more money from Sony for now on
>Sony says no because they already made a deal before
>Disney throws a fucking pissy fit
I don’t think he’s going to walk. Holland is playing young Nathan Drake in Sony’s Uncharted Movie
no!!!
IF YOU'RE TOO SICK FOR WORK YOU'RE TOO SICK FOR VIDEO GAMES!
They already fucked up by escalating to the point of revealing his identity to the whole fucking world, who cares about Iron Lad problems at this point.
>showing flashbacks of a fight where Spider-Man has a sleek black symbionts suit
>woody Harrelson as carnage
CAN YOU FEEL IT?
Being that it's in an "anything goes" setting, it doesn't really matter.
Meh, I’ll keep enjoying the MCU (especially that Dr Strange Sequel). I hope they use this opportunity to bring in Dam Nova and Ms Marvel (Kamala).
Either Sony makes Kino (like Spiderverse) or shit (like Venom). If the former, then good. If the latter, then I will be ignoring them.
Yeah, a Peter Parker that is inspired by Tony Stark is way more out of character than a Peter Parker that doesn't know shit about science and tech and steals all his stuff from Oscorp.
Oh, Disney's at best guilty of grabbing for more shekels, but some of the annoyance at Sony is because we all know, deep down, that they'll reboot and fuck everything up worse.
Stop it right now. Stop fucking up Aunt May.
>Comparing movies
lol
They will also purposefully sabotage their American divisions if they are too successful because they'd rather lose money than make it overseas.
Can't wait. Wayyyyy better than them lord forbid doing something different. Cause just like Bruce Wayne's parents, we need to see that old fucker die in every single Spider-Man flick til the end of the time or it just isn't muh Spider-Man.
They need to go either Strange-heavy, more Cosmic with Nova or Warlock or Guardians, or make Daredevil happen. Or make another Hulk.
>it's a shitty movie but it doesn't matter because it's a joke
I don't understand your logic here
That makes sense, but it's also logically inconsistent. The MCU is a universe in an explicitly named multiverse. "Anything goes" covers all of it. My point is that Yea Forums has no reason (other than company wars) to get so angry over Holland while also loving Spider-Verse, a movie that kills the characters of two Peters.
Peter being less of a mary sue teenage genius is much more preferable than a non-character nuthugger without drive.
yes they fucking were. my 4th grade teacher namedropped Thor and she's grandma age by now so fuck off.
Thats a horrible idea, fuck you.
That movie will be about Strange traveling through weird realms, not some boring ass "alternate earths with alternate people" shit. Get an imagination jesus christ
Man killing the deal killed any chance of the sinister six, since they won't be able to use any character. So no Vulture, no Scorpion (since Mac Gargan was in Homecoming) no Mysterio. Technically no Aunt May, no Betty Brant, no JJ, no Flash not anyone but Peter
The truth hurts doesn't it
In a story about alternate versions of the character, you can do whatever and it's not character assassination in any significant way, because it's all alternate characters.
It's not THE Spidey that got fat and sad. It's some other guy from some other universe.
I know youre refering to video games, but they've done this with other things as well. Theres this infamous old forum post fron an ex Bandai representative talking about what Bandai assumed Americans preferred, saying we dont have attention spans for long shows (lol) and other stupid shit. After that everyone realized that Gundam didn't fail in the west due to cartoon network, but due to Bandais own racism
Sony probably thinks they can do a Holland/Hardy, Spidey and Venom movie. And I mean, they can, but it'll be awful.
>not even an hour passed
>already crawling back
PFFFFTAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
If you could have got over your petty fanboy bullshit, you would have noticed that despite a part of his origin being that Stark wronged him, he was motivated by his massive ego. But Tony Stark was still an element so I guess it's fucking garbage. Much better to just reboot the shit for a forth time and get a half assed Spider-Man and no Mysterio cause they tend not to retread past villains, especially so soon.
I mean honestly, I can't see how this is a legit complaint. Have you seen Sony's Electro?
>In a story about alternate versions of the character
That's Holland too.
>s-something else could come up, maybe!
Secondary cope
>UPDATE: Variety reports that a deal could still be reached between Disney and Sony. Furthermore, a Sony rep told io9 that the dispute is allegedly over a producer credit and that "negotiations are ongoing
You race fags need to die in a tar pit.
This is what really hurts any future spiderman movie with Holland, they can add a REAL MJ, but it would be really weird, best outcome is to introduce Gwen, but the lose of the villains is a high toll
>no Vulture
only real loss
>no Scorpion (since Mac Gargan was in Homecoming)
Scorpion doesn't need to be Mc Gargan
>no Mysterio
he's dead anyways, no big loss
All they have to do is pull some Spider-Verse bullshit as an excuse to bring back Molina and Dafoe. There you go. Then pull Glover to do Prowler (since both are Spider-Man characters from the start, Disney can't do jack shit) and add Carnage. Easy
Actually as much as I love Woody Harrelson I don't feel like he's right for Cletus.
>Much better to just reboot the shit for a forth time and get a half assed Spider-Man
WE CAN'T LOSE THE RDJ ORBITER, BROS
NOT THE WHITE MILES, BROS
HOLD ME
Flash, May, & MJ were purposefully different from their comic counterparts precisely so they could use the actual characters in future films.
but THE spidey died then, honestly the problem with spiderverse is all it did was compound the problem with Miles. He's the to replace not to add, and that would be fine if he had any good stories in the last decade but he hasn't
OHNONONONO
SONYGGERS ARE BACKTRACKING
HAHAHAHAHA
Yes, but he's set in a specific universe that you're already following. If he's done wrong, that sticks. For all intents and purposes, he's the "relevant" Spidey.
In a brand new story that's all about dimensional dopplegangers of Peter, where the "relevant" Spidey is Miles, you can take each alt Peter in whatever direction you want, and make it work.
Imagine betting against Disney in this day and age
OH NO NO NO SYCOPHANT BROS WE GOT TOO COCKY
The whole pint of the second movie was Parker moving beyond Iron Man's sidekick. But we won't get to see that growth now because we'll get another shitty Sony reboot.
uncharted has been in development hell forever, i'll believe it when i see it
He would've been right in 93, but he's to old now to play the character. It's not like the character is that complicated to play though, Walt Goggins would've been perfect
>The whole pint of the second movie was Parker moving beyond Iron Man's sidekick.
By having a scene with ACDC playing while he makes a fucking suit in Tony's plane? Yeah, he's no longer the side kick - he's fucking Iron Man.
The Spidey who died is just there for the setup of the story. Despite the nods to the Raimi movies, he's not a character you're already following.
you're right
he's too old and too big. cletus needs to be a lanky fucker. also he's too grounded, cletus has to have that natural "oh shit this could be a crazy motherfucker" kind of look. like in true detective, mcconaughey would be a better cletus, woody is too good as the straight man to be otherwise
Are you fucking dense? Sony is the company who created, owns and develops the PlayStation device, remember? What in the goddamn earth gives you this impression?
Fuck man I'd love a Blade Runner 2099 Spider-Man movie.
>a producer credit
Is Pascal isn´t it?
Sony has rights to anything Spider-man related including the Parker Bros
Yes I'm well aware the plot to that movie is a white man who the audience is supposed to see as "wrong" dies unceremoniously and is promptly forgotten and replaced by a mutt child trained by a mensch
It was kind of about that? But it also did lots of things counter to that such as Peter using Stark's designs and 3D printer for a new suit as well as his plane, and Happy implying that Peter reminded him a great deal of Tony. They also intentionally ended the movie with a plot point that was supposed to blatantly mirror Iron Man 1's ending. I don't need to see the "growth" there though because the Stark wank will be omnipresent, it's obvious.
Thing is, if they recasted and kept Holland it will feel pretty fucking weird for audiences. And let's be honest one of the primary reasons why the last 2 Spiderman films were a success both for audiences and in the box office is because of the MCU
Link to the article
Based And Redpilled Disney is full of SJW's
Have you seen the Sony Spider-Man movies where they made him just some dumbass that lucked into his powers and stole all his tech off Oscorp. Yeah, that was totally the Spider-Man I grew up with.
That Blonde Spider-man was not the main spidey, the older one was. You are stupid and obviously didn't pay attention to the universe designations on the screens during the Collider scenes
>Into the Spider-Verse success was due to Feige´s secret involvement
SHIEEEET
The skater boy was more tonally Peter than Holland ever was, and that's saying something.
Imagine the levels of SEETHING in this board if that were true
No and it never will.
WHAT THE FUCK NOOOOOOOOO I WANT MORE SPIDERTWINK
In what way is dead Spidey shown as being "wrong"? Of all the Spideys we see, he's the most accomplished, most successful, most beloved, happiest, etc.
Neither were tonally Peter, but Holland's was entertaining and interesting
God, I hope so
How is it not relevant? The thing that was being complained about was that MCU Spider-Man wasn't true to Spider-Man. He's going back to Sony where they previously made him some stuttering dipshit that doesn't know shit about science. Unless they're smart enough to get someone in there that knows what they are doing and keep their hands off interfering, it's going to be another train wreck.
Marvel gave them the rights, they can easily cancel it now
Just admit you're lusting over the manlet already, nobody likes him for any other reason.
His character in the comics has always been teenage genius. To me, changing that is more offensive to the character than making him look up to another hero that is also a science/tech genius.
That's what I mean he's successful and happy but we the audience knows that's "wrong" for spider-man, its why we see his wife completely forget him and go to a party thrown by his murderer
I don't care about MCU's version of Peter, but the movies he's in and especially the villains he's facing are much better than anything Sony made in the last 15 years.
SEETHE AND CRY SOME MORE ZOOMERFAG!
No surprised someone with this much brain damage is rooting for a bunch of Sony fuck ups.
Monsterverse wins in the end.
Given how shitty Sony´s track record is I wouldn´t be surprise, hell I wouldn´t be surprised if the original rated R cut of Venom had some of Feige´s involvement as Tom Hardy stated that they cut over 40 mins of footage in the final product
I'm celebrating the most damaging thing to happen to Spider-man in several decades going down in flames. Seethe harder, zoomer.
They should be broken up, but after all the marvel properties are coalesced
Miles is finally being binned? Source?
Still fucking retarded. I hope they one day find a cure for your brand of autism.
Lmao you are actually retarded
You're looking at it. White Miles is done.
Now in erect
>If I call this lamp a phone, it means it's a phone!
I believe you're the retarded one here
user isn't wrong, this character isn't even remotely like Peter Parker and is warping the perception of the character in the public consciousness.
>Marvel doubles down of X Men development just to spite Sony.
My secret is revealed
Toby was a terrible Spider-Man and Garfield was a terrible Peter Parker. Holland is a good enough middle ground.
Yes. Not Punchkicker, the man with kicks the strength of punches.
Yeah, that's some bullshit. For all the problems MCU Spidey has, Holland being a tech wiz from the get go ain't one of them.
Based, also recast Cable as the dude from Avatar.
Nunca!
Trust me they will make a deal, sony will make concessions, they went hardline from the get go to force sony into ceding something when they refused to back down
Thats not how licensing contracts work.
>>the most financially successful Sony movie is a Marvel Spiderman movie
But that isnt true. The most financially successful Spider-Man movies are still Spider-Man 1 and Spider-Man 3.
Reboot Daredevil is their only choice and they won’t because Disney hates red heads, Irish, and Catholics
Sony got cocky with the success from Spider-verse.
Strange is the new Stark. Then Reed, then Prof X. They’re going full Illuminati.
It would have been way better, desu
He lives in our hearts
fucking lord people are blowing up about this way too much. who fucking cares MCU spidey sucks anyway
Or switch moonknight out for Deadpool or Wolverine
>No Doc Ock
Your Sinister Six list is officially shit.
Guarantee it all blows over.
Too much money at stake.
Probably just for press.
>Either Sony makes Kino (like Spiderverse) or shit (like Venom). If the former, then good. If the latter, then I will be ignoring them
You have terrible taste
Should’ve been the guy who played Rorschach