Boy howdy, there have been some dumb fucking characters in DC in the past but this one is on another level
Boy howdy, there have been some dumb fucking characters in DC in the past but this one is on another level
That's Bendis for ya
No one seriously defended this crap, did they? I hope it’s retconned as “she hacked those shitty China Lanterns”
ENOUGH WITH THE FUCKING GREEN LANTERNS HOLY SHIT. AT LEAST MAKE HER A BLUE LANTERN OR AN ORANGE LANTERN FUCK
>Hey remember Riri Williams?
>Well I'm going to make her again but this time with Green lantern Powers and might her around the age of Moongirl
Well done Bendis, it's a 10 out of 10 idea.
Not really. But stay mad though.
This is the bad one.
Not the original Vibe, not Snowflake or Hemogoblin, not Generic Speedster Villain #51, not Hush or ZurrEnAh, not Damian, not Rainbow Raider or Egg Fu Yung.
This one.
This is the one that is on a different level.
This one.
I'm not even a DC guy and that's just off the top of my head.
This one.
Snowflame is based
I feel like Bendis thinks black people legitimately have a lower IQ. Like he went so woke he looped back to racist. Because he insists way too hard with his child prodigies that it comes off as, "SEE THESE FICTIONAL BLACK CHILDREN ARE SMART" when normies and radicool centrists already kind of believe we're all equal. You dont have anything to prove. Also maybe hire cooll black dudes and not woke boomer white dads and a million thot girls for editors if you really want to be woke? Its still wrong but yeah.
Guess what, she's not even a green lantern. Her backstory is that she hacked in to a green lantern battery she found and is using its power, but she also found a way to turn off its fail safes so the green lantern core doesn't know she did it.
Just let that sink in. I am not making any of it up
Id like to see diversity woke characters from shit tier characters like Kiteman who is a lesboan had vertilligo and no arms and legs. But we just go beyond woke and make her have a harem of dwarve buddhist monks or some shit. Just fuck my shit up.
Aye, but you misunderstand. It’s not about setting actual role models for children or writing engaging stories. Why do that when you can pay lip service to social justice without changing predatory hiring practices! It’s much more fun to bribe your young editors for sexual favors than to fuck your frigid bitch wife.
All those OCs you described aren't Bendis OCs. His original characters don't simply disappear or become obscure. They are pushed as the new Spider-Man or the new Iron Man. They get cartoons and movies made about them. All from fictitious popularity. That's what makes them so terrible.
Yes, the primary differences being her creator's laziness and blatant reuse of his prior ideas coupled with an origin that flies in the face of canon regarding how her powers work and leaves a lot of unanswered questions regarding how she got them in the first place. This is compounded by her creator's tendency to constantly create copies of existing characters while failing to develop them during his runs, causing speculation that he creates the characters simply for royalty purposes.
First of all, Vibe, Snowflame, Egg Fu Yung, and Rainbow Raider are cool as fuck.
Damian and Hush can be good in the right writers hands.
But this Teen Laturn shit here is just a stupid idea and they maryest of mary sues
Its pretty bad. Whatever lorefag comes after jhons I hope they pretend this shit never happened
Fucking brutal.
>Is brow
>Ergo must be bad
That's not how that works.
no the China Lanterns can't even do half of the things she can do.
She hacked a true lantern, because every character Bendis write needs to be super smart.
Why have they never once shows her origin? we still have no idea where she came from.
Nigger stole my lantern.
She rules and it's mostly because of how minor she is compared to Yea Forums's rage
i'm shocked it took DC this long to realize the potential of Green Lantern being a thing anyone can do if they get the ring
>Hacks a battery with her will power
I see no issue here.
Easiest ways to reconcile her with existing canon about GL rings: she's actually the new Power Ring, rogue Guardian shenanigans, and it simply being a malfunctioning ring with damaged safety protocols and she didn't actually hack shit.
Bendis said it's upcoming in Young Justice. He's posted teaser art, I think it's André Lima Araújo?
It's funny how Yea Forums made a genuinely good black female hero with Bounce
sadly the usual expansion of autism and horndoggery sank it quickly but it was a great concept and design
I'm sick of girl geniuses. When are we going to get more cute retardfus?
That's not Milk Man
The Quads agree
So - Bendis made a black character that stole her power ring, and wears a basketball uniform.
Hrm.
People with monobrows deserve death, that's just the truth.
When OC donuts getting shilled while continuity and past characterizations are gang raped, it takes a really special type of fanfic tier Mary Sue to stand out like a sore thumb in modern comics. How does she compare to say... Gabby Rivera's version of America or Riri Williams?
>Boy howdy
hey, it's "rednecks on comics"!
Whenever Keith Giffen makes another Ambush Bug comic, it COULD have Dumb Bunny in it.
Fuck off, nothing is wrong with Rainbow Raider.
>Kids comics are the only form of American comics that are actually making money
>Teen Lantern is an obvious attempt to get in to libraries and Scholastic
>Make her latina for woke points+free publicity
>her name and powers are cheesy but kids like cheesy shit.
>She is brown skinned so will be on TV soon, probably Jessica will mentor her.
>Bendis OC goes on TV, Bendis gets royalties
Bendis knows exactly what he's doing. He's trying to make money and get on TV, not write good comics for comic fans.
no doubt DC will mandate she be on the next season of Young Justice and Super Girl
>Bendis makes OC donut to get TV bucks.
>Animation department brushes him off because they recognize how shitty it is
>Bendis gets Didiot to fool/blackmail some shitty WB exec to force the issue
>Bendis OC becomes the sixth regular member of TTG
keikaku mean plan
Why can Reed and Tony build cosmic cubes and super armors from scrap and no one cares? Is it cause she's a bendis creation or cause she is a black girl
Reed and Tony weren't cribbing from existing heroes within the same franchise. Also Riri's background is far less impressive than Tony's when you consider that Tony built his in a cave from a box of scraps to escape captivity while Riri stole a bunch of high tech equipment and tools from her university then assembled them into a suit of powered armor at her leisure. One is an impressive feat of ingenuity, the other is not; Riri's background has less showings of intelligence and personal capability than most of IM's armored villains, and her original suit is pretty lackluster in comparison to most of the powered armor kicking around the MU. The problem with Riri isn't the setup or even the origin story, it's that Bendis basically squandered the character for a long time while cutting off potential avenues of development regularly.
Riri never got to mold her armor into its own design, she just got given more Iron Man armor and moved on from there.
Who's worse, this or Gotham Girl?
Teen Lantern in setup, Gotham Girl in use.
Who cares?
Like, who cares which is worse? They're both awful and should be buried in concrete on the sun. Does it matter which is worse when you're comparing finding blood in your shit to finding parasites?
>She's the new Power Ring
Could work, but while Bendis has her she won't be evil or have negative traits of any kind
>Americans think 11 is 'one-teen'
Does being unmitigated shit not count as a negative character trait?
Under Bendis she won't have any character traits and might entirely read as evil.
Picture it though, Teen Lantern with her arm all tumorous and barely looking human, the corruption spreading to her chest and face, sickly green blood vessels running down her body, and one of her eyes leaking green energy as she attacks her former allies and the GLC, screaming that they did this to her and Volthoom is the only one she can trust.
Ironically, no one in the comic believes it and upon meeting her point out that she's not a teenager.
is she the "bolivian" one in name only?
Literally no one uses that term.
She was probably born there.
It'd be more believable if it was a red lantern ring: blood magic and salt has to be more comprehensible than whatever OS the guardians use.
bendis could have made her angry that people keep underestimating her, meaning she's 'earned' the ring
It's because she's brown.
Yea Forums will say that it's not but it is.
Someone will try to say Bendis is the racist here but Yea Forums's problem would still be the fact that she's brown.
I like the idea of heroes from other parts of the world but with Bendis it's just wasted potential
That's a self defeating attitude. Are you really gonna let the hivemind tell you how to think and feel?
If a lot of people think something is bad, it's probably because said thing has some issues.
But when a lot of those people are raising complaints about how this Bolivian character is black then it becomes racist.
The presence of race based complaints does not preclude or override the presence of other complaints.
Is she too young to have big tits? Cause those would fix her.
We barely know her origins or how she hack the powerring. We barely know her personality.
People only mad that she is written by bendis.
This person has been around almost a year and we still don't know shit about her other than she hacked some lantern.
We don't even know which lantern. Or how she got her hands on one.
Fuck no. Not even ironically.
Making bad OC is one thing. But making an OC whose very existence and powerset shits on the established continuity of the very universe universe that isn't played for a joke or a one-off thing is just begging for the scrap heap. Or, you know, what Slott and Bendis always does: make a shit ton of characters and then trust other writers to correct the mistakes in their design/origin so that the creator's can get paid for it.
Krona and the other Guardians, as bad as they are at their jobs, would never allow a loophole like this to exist without their knowledge.
>would never allow a loophole like this to exist without their knowledge.
That's why the easiest work around is that it's the result of a rogue Guardian.
What ever happened to this character? Why don't we see more of the other colors?
It's almost impossible trying to explain how a battery appeared on Earth without any of the Earth lanterns knowing
>like the concept of the Lanterns
>hate DC's overuse of crossovers and reboots
>Lanterns are apparently the worst at this
My life is suffering.
The lantern itself is a lantern, kinda like the living Planet, and using this kid as a host.
Let alone how she "hacked it" out of her mother's garage while living in a third world country. I mean holy shit the world doesn't need another Riri.
Oh, you're right. That's feasible. I'm fed up with human Green Lanterns, though. Sure would be nice to see a Blue One for a fucking change. Christ. Has Simon and Jessica grown stale already?
that would be lantern #8 of 2814. And again the earth lanterns would want to know why one of them is missing
He's remade Riri twice now. How many more times will he beat that dead horse? Eve Ewing is only just barely making Riri into a character people can give a shit about.
Would have been ten times easier if she was just another color lantern and a ring just came to her. No stepping on any toes there.
Or if she had to hack one, maybe she found a leftover yellow one from one of the invasions of Earth they tried to pull off.
But isn't that the exact opposite of what you're complaining about here: a person pulling shit out of their ass to become number one. Riri as you describe sounds like a sub intellectual that can't measure up to the original without making heavy use of Tony's parts. Meanwhile this GL just mary su's her way into a ring and does Baz's story only shitter.
Beyond Bendis, as puts it. It really does sound like the core problem for Riri is that she is black and doing comic-realistic things vs. being white and doing comic-fantastical thing.
No no, those suck too. Super Intelligence is the dumbest power.
I think the problem is that they shoved her into main canon when the whole setup would work far better in a sideline for the YA market.
>plucky, young kid genius discovers damaged power ring and battery and kludges it with homebuilt tech to wield it, trying to keep a secret identity in both her civilian life and from the GLs who would confiscate it
>Heathers-esque, pretty, blond, rich bitch social media influencer who gets a yellow ring because people are terrified of what she can do if they displease her
>bullied school shooter-esque Red Lantern
>overly peppy and energetic bleeding heart Blue Lantern teen
>Larfleeze in a sailor fuku
Both are extravagantly wealthy with buildings full of resources and they built up from low tech stuff to that level over the course of years, while she is 13 and has none of these things.
So far Gotham's Girl and her terrible execution. But "Teen" Lantern, by virtue of being a Lantern, means she can potentially show up anywhere. Gotham Girl will either be slain once Tom King is gone or sink into the abyss. But not before Bruce embraces her as the daughter he never had and immortalizes her in the fucking Batcave or some stupid shit.
I wasn't talking about Teen Lantern in that post, I was talking specifically about Riri. The similarity in problems with the characters stems from Bendis' laziness, not how that laziness is expressed.
>Bolivian
>Black
Can we please talk about this? I'd love if she was native american but there is no black people in bolivia and this just show how shallow radlibs like Bendis are, he made her for the good boy points and not because her nationality or ethnicity actually add anything to the character.
If we HAD to have another earth based green lantern diversity hire I'd rather they make Kai-ro canon.
>he made her for the good boy points and not because her nationality or ethnicity actually add anything to the character.
that's the main problem with all of his minority characters. He has no real interest in making a dynamic character or doing even a wiki search on the background he is trying to portray. He just wants to make a minority then point to it and show everyone that he made a minority character for the sake of making a minority character.
Bendis didnt made her.
>but there is no black people in bolivia
Yeah there is.
>Larfleeze in a sailor fuku
user, I came.
there are black people in japan so lets use one to represent japan
If you were to reboot the Lanterns for a NuDCU, what would you do?
>bullied school shooter-esque Red Lantern
You can say Guy.
I mean Japan represent Americans as some aryan race.
because it was founded and created by white people
What if she has an Afro-Peruvian father and a Bolivian mother
That's the complete opposite of Guy.
>because it was founded
Colonized.
I'll be cold in the ground before I call the Slavic filth White. "White" as we know it is basically German, French, and English. America was mainly founded by England, with a bit of France and Spain for flavor. They imported Celtic and African Slaves, and Nordic and Slavic people on top of that as work horses.
There was no country before white people came. It was just a bunch of tribal warfare
It still their land man.
It was just wilderness, not a country
They had borders and governments. They were small countries, but they were still countries.
you're really going on a stretch
Doesn't stop it from being their land.
They live there.
They found it.
It's their land.
It's true though.
I never said it wasn't their land, I said they weren't a country
following logic like that anything can be a country
*dirty Anglos
>following logic like that anything can be a country
Yes. That's how it works, esspecially hundreds of years ago, when everything was much more freeform.
I'm just saying that best way too represent America, is a mix fat guy.
Unless you are one of those idiots who think: a little bit darker than white = black, then no, there aren't. In the most important cities it's full of latino brown but almost zero black. So unless he's saying she came from a literal farm in a town in the middle of bumfuck, nowhere; she shouldn't be black at all.
>Riri as you describe sounds like a sub intellectual that can't measure up to the original without making heavy use of Tony's parts.
She did make her own suit at the start, though. She had a mecha suit made with random parts, but it was definitely hers. It was later that Bendis had her make another suit from scratch that was a more feminine version of Iron Man's suit.
THANKFULLY though, once Zub got his hands on her she ended up making a suit with her own identity and she's now a separate person to Tony. Just like Kamala in most of her stories.
>tfw no mamacha to call me papi at nights
She and Riri are in different universes.
That's Quints.
Actually enforce the rule of only a few GLs, heck probably only one, per sector. New Lanterns only show up after the old one retires/dies. Hal gets Married and gives up the ring, Guy goes red and loses it, that kind of thing. Obviously there would be some mega team up where everyone comes out of retirement. Also, play up the other Colours. Maybe Jessica takes after the Super Hero Girl version, and is very basically Ghandi levels of passive, so she gets a Blue ring. Also, I personally want a Martian Lantern, that isn't Martian Man Hunter during a crossover event.
>flies in the face of canon
There is no canon.
Other lantern corps exists in different universes. With the GLC being the Earth 1 lantern corps. Sinestro Corps for the Antimatter Universe, etc.
Enforce the only 1-2 per sector rule. No army of Earth Lanterns for no actual reason.
That's the mindset behind her creation in the first place
>Other lantern corps exists in different universes
I'm immediately suspicious of any and all multiverses. What's your reasoning?
What was that, dead user?
Jesus Christ. It's just a stupid comic book. It's especially stupid cos it's Young Justice.
Do the opposite. More GLs per sector. Space is big and GLs typically don't have long lifespans so you need enough GLs to not only be able to cover events happening simultaneously but also to effectively cover their sector should one or two be killed.
I get that they're literally Space Cops(tm), but I don't want twenty to a hundred humans with green rings running around all the time. A small buddy cop flick with Aliens is what I'm after.
Has she ever done anything Bolivian at all? Like I don't know about their traditions but has she ever even mentioned anything that connects her to that country?
Is this any good?
I think 6 is actually a pretty good number, especially when you've got multiple books so everyone can easily get some screentime.
I can't believe I forgot it. I need to go to bed.
>especially when you've got multiple books
What if I just want one Green Lantern book at a time?
Based. I do wonder what's the ratio from these dumbass geeks bitching about shit like it's the current, most horrific thing to happen in comics?
Still works. You can do a team book, you can do rotating cast, you can do a backup.
>N.K. Jemisin
No.
Except Tony did his thing in the desert with a box of scraps completely unrelated to flying suit. Riri did hers with things 100% related and studying a proven model.
That I would agree. Everything else about the characters just seem like they were taken from XYZ and given a self insert paint job.
Was the v1 suit made from non suit parts? That seems to be the problem of her origin (bendis writing is another problem altogether). If she just used typical electronics to match what Tony did then that just sounds like super smart shit and boring as the other guy said.
Bendis thinks every foreign country is black.
How to do a legacy character correctly:
>Agent Venom
>Wally West
>Terry McGinnis
Wanna know what the difference between them and someone like Miles is? They're not just carbon copies of the original in terms of personality, but still feel similar enough while still being their own thing.
I'd add 52's version of the Montoya Question, as no one else has used her properly, not even the people who wrote her then.
>let's take a grounded street level hero and throw them at the multiverse shit
Never works well.