Damn the new Gwenpool sucks

She lost all of her character growth from the original run. The memes are like 2-3 years old stale and cringe. Clearly the new writer have not read the original run.

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What is this disgusting art?

the new writer is a woman, what do you expect.

Why do women suck at writing good female characters?

what's wrong with this face!?

She does the floss dance while the page is taken up by wordswordswordswordswords

Only Western woman

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What character? She was a fucking spoiled neet who couldn’t deal with real life/responsibilities and escaped into comics because she’s a high school dropout loser

>Fma
>Good
Ok weeb

You just described a character. Are you legitimately a backbirth?

Her “character” is “waaaah life is hard” and does absolutely nothing with that nor does she learn a fucking thing. The rest of it is her stumbling through comics with lame jokes

The original run was also shit and I'm pretty confident the new writer did read it. If anything she's trying way too hard to pander to the original run and its fans, not the opposite.

Gurihiru art was what made Gwenpool interesting to me
That character

Marvel is too incompetent to not ruin the few things they do right.

Jesus...

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>She was a fucking spoiled neet who couldn’t deal with real life/responsibilities and escaped into comics because she’s a high school dropout loser
Do you have any idea how relatable that is?

It did nothing for me. I'll give it one more issue but I doubt the writer will improve.

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I'm liking it so far. Doing new stuff with Gwen's powers. Really emphasizing the neet aspect which is obnoxious. Seems to be a focus on the fear of death (or ignored character) leading to Gwen's desperation.

SHE IS SUPPOSED TO BE CUTE NOT CRINGY

Hastings run has her develop. She grows to respect the people of her world among other things.

Gwen needs to be tickled into submission

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Wtf she is underage.

>> waistline is even lower on the leotard

>let's turn gwen into harley quinn lmao
Who thought this was a good idea?

Well, Dc turned Harley into Deadpool.

did they recton her "romance" in west coast avengers

We all knew she was going to die without hastings writing her.

Sucks to be a Gwenfag right now. Literally not made for you anymore.

You're just a misogynist.

Didn't get acknowledged at all.

She's 18

so it was so bad that we all might as well pretend it never happened

Who is this creature and what has she done to the qt goof we all know and love?

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This can't be real. I refuse to accept this as anything but a nightmare.

Cringe

>all the plebs being filtered by this
stay mad

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Blame the infrastructure of western comics. When a writer doesn't have creative control and rights over the characters, different writers will inevitably mangle your favorite character. This happens to Batman, Cap, Spiderman, Wolverine, Iron Man, etc.

A good story contain a character arc, where a person learn something to be a better person. This is almost nonexistent in Marvel and DC comics involving old legacy characters, because they are already developed so things are just rehashed over and over again.

This is pretty hot desu.

i like how retarded she looks

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Same

Come on user, there's a difference between a pleb filter and shit, I'm sure you can tell if you try harder

Like that would stop Reed.

Pretty much this. The xmen wouldnt be as popular if they hadnt had a unifying vision for decades, when they were written and controlled by Claremont.

Thats evil gwen

You’re unironically rebuffing his point. Claremont is not the original creator and writer of the X-men, but he defined the X-men anyway. So in fact western comics having different writers helped the X-men

That page gave me the weirdest boner. I looked at it and instantly didn't like the art but yknow something about it.

>A good story contain a character arc, where a person learn something to be a better person
t.Humongous pleb that hasn’t read anything past high school level

>*dabs*

user could've tried harder on that gif too,

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Both industries have weaknesses. Artist having full creative control over the storyline means that writer's block happen and the entire IP is on standstill, like Berserk, HxH and Vagabond. On the other hand, some manga have way overstayed its welcome and drag on for the sake of milking merch money like One Piece and Naruto.

Western comics in general can be excellent when the stars line up, editor vision, good writer + good artist like Claremont + Jim Lee or Hastings + Gurihiru. However more often than not it is just flood the shelf mediocre garbage with souless digital art and pointless writing.

what's she thinking about?

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>fma
>bad
Being contrarian won't stop people thinking you're a faggot, user

>However more often than not it is just flood the shelf mediocre garbage
Eh, every entertainment industry is this

I remember someone saying that men write women in an idealistic perspective in which they're well rounded, three-dimensional characters.
Women, on the other hand, write from an actual woman's perspective and are self-absorbed sociopaths with no concerns other than their own short-term happiness.
I'm paraphrasing that user, and I'm not saying that they're right or wrong, that was just what I heard.

Sounds like that user is unironically an incel

Men do write them from an idealistic perspective. So it varies depending on the man's values whether he writes them well or not. Some men, their ideal woman is a realdoll. That doesn't really make for a compelling character. Some men are just ruled by a traditionally masculine value system and that's where you get female characters who are just Frank Castle with tits. So it takes a guy with a balanced perspective or a lot of talent to write them well.

Incidentally the same is true with women writing men. I read a lot and boy some women have such boring ideas about men. I think that is my favorite thing about JK Rowling. 98% of women could never write a male character like Ron, they just don't have it in them.

The biggest problems on the creative side for comic books are strict deadlines and pay-per-page.

There is no financial incentive for anyone involved to put in their full effort and every financial incentive to pump out whatever you're working on as quickly as possible, you get paid the same either way.

it's her o-face

>Clearly the new writer have not read the original run.
She absolutely did.
Problem is she didn't understand, like most bad writers. Hastings warned us.

This only applies to superheroes. Mariko Tamaki's She Hulk sucks, but I loved "This One Summer."

If this really is Evil Gwen I have to give the writer props. If not, fuck.

>I read a lot and boy some women have such boring ideas about men.

That should be obvious when they think crap like "Zutara" is an interesting ship.

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Seems about right, not true for every female writer, but most of the current ones at marvel essentially write their characters as self inserts, or from there own solipsistic view

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That's probably a good example of why you shouldn't bother remembering stupid bullshit that anons pull out of their ass.

>but most of the current ones at marvel essentially write their characters as self inserts

"Write what you know"

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>she

>Clearly the new writer have not read the original run.
I'm off two minds on that topic
1) It was bait to draw in her fans. She never read them and just wanted to write Harley Quinn
2) She did read it, but wanted to write Harley Quinn. She lift the shallowest elements from the run and made Gwen act like Harley
Both of these, of course, imply new, shit Harley, not the bygone good Harley

If thats relatable to a person than thy must be fucking pathetic

So Gwenpoole has completed her transformation into another modern Harley Quinn, right?

I say modern because the original Harley Quinn was just a funny female henchman and not whatever the fuck they've turned her into

bout those beans

>So Gwenpoole has completed her transformation into another modern Harley Quinn, right?
From this issue alone seem like it.

Is not completed until Gwen has a relationship with a plant girl

Holy shit Marvel is going downhill again

I told you guys it was going to be bad. I read this girl's writing during Age of X-Man.

Roasties will seeth at this

All according to keikaku.

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Well... c'mon, it's the Current Year. They gotta go after them zoomer bucks.

With how many characters want a piece of Sue's ass despite her being a married woman, it's nice seeing her get cucked for once.

Marvel has been trying to turn her into Harleypool for a while. Just look at most of her appearances in the games and shit.

>With how many characters want a piece of Sue's ass
Who aside from that faggot Namor is lusting after Sue?

>DC is trying to turn Harley Quinn into Deadpool
>Marvel is trying to turn Gwenpool into Harley Quinn

This. You don't even notice the writing when confronted by the unappealing american cartooning.

holy shit, MY NEW WAIFU.

>anons getting unironically ironically dabbed on
L M A O

Try harder.

I don't know what the problem is. She has always been a pathetic comic book character with sociopathic tendencies gaming comic book mechanics to both defeat villains and stay relevant.

Better question, why do so many anons have this idea that she was ever anything else?

>*dabs*

Because Gurihiru

Here's an even better question, why are you pretending that you read her series? Your second sentence makes it extremely obvious that you haven't.

>She lost all of her character growth from the original run. The memes are like 2-3 years old stale and cringe. Clearly the new writer have not read the original run.

so what your saying is... she's failing to prevent what happened to other marvel characters from happening to her like she feared?

Tini Howard and Eve Ewing don’t do that. It’s pretty much only Thompson and Williams that do that, and even that can be argued with Thompson because her captain marvel is actually quite a bit of an asshat and other characters point it out when she acts out

I've read the entire run.

I guess you are one of the anons I'm referring to who thought she was anything other than what I described.

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Why is she so smug?

X-tremists is pretty good for an AU though

Hurtful but a sick burn nonetheless.

Winry was kind of a pussy, though.

>lol woman
>sick burn bro
Eh ok I guess, fits with the quality of Yea Forums these days

>that person is male
>sick burn
... wut.

Williams definitely did not self insert during age of X-man as well, her female characters are actual pretty well-rounded in there. Gwenpool is a bungle so far though

>Gwenfags being this delusional
Not him, but I was there in the threads with everyone else here reading every issue of the original Gwenpool comics and it seriously wasn't this high quality masterpiece you're making it out to be. It wasn't THIS bad:
But it wasn't all that far from it either. Batroc and Sarah were alright. Most everything else was trash. You had a series of cameos from all the nu-Marvel characters like overly shilled Lady Thor, black Spider-Man, Doom except he's a good guy now and doesn't look anything like Doom until Gwen forces him to be original Doom for a couple panels, America Chavez's best friend Lady Hawkeye (she's the REAL Hawkeye by the way), Hispanic youth Ghost Rider, etc. And it was all premised on the done so many times already it really shouldn't be done ever again meta- shit of having the character deal with being in a comic and knowing they're fictional.
So basically original run wasn't as blatantly horrible as this, but being non-offensively mediocre isn't something to be super-proud of either.

>read her original run
>surprised by how decent it is
>literally everything else she appears in sucks

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I don't even see this as a bad comic. It's just as entertaining as any of her other stuff, perhaps better than average. Hey try hard attempt at relating to zoomers is joke AND in character.

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>She was just pretending to be retarded
Solid argument, you can use it to defend the writing no matter how bad it continues to be.

Lol just accept change bro. Stop clinging to the past bro lmao.

Comic books have always had their own unique brand of punishment for loyal, long-time readers. The longer you read comics, the more they slap you in the face when they drop continuity amd/or assassinate characters. Reboots and relaunches with new creative teams will more often than not create an inferior product. And no one will find anything wrong with it except for the long-time reader. To add salt on the wound, social media gives creative teams a public platform to shit further on your demographic with strawman arguments and bad faith claims.

I feel like the new writer is trying to make her appeal to Yea Forums, since we're the only ones talking about her in like any capacity.

When people say "Don't follow a character, follow the writer" this is what they meant. For some reason its an extremely controversial saying in some circles.

I do both, but I drop if the writer on the character I follow is too shit

Wat? Didn't she literally state she was trying hard to stay relevant to keep her comics running? I don't see what you are confused about.

>Damn the new Gwenpool sucks
that's what happen when you pander to a non-existing audience.

I haven't read a lot of the character but isn't the basic premise that she's aware she's in a comic and is desperate to be printed?
Wouldn't relying on memes to the point of obnoxiousness fit that?

If Leah Williams wants Gwenpool to appeal to Yea Forums, she would have Gwen become a loli or a futa. Outrage bait doesn't create lasting appeal.

Quit fucking around and post this titcow writer's photos already

Damn, that's a low blow to say about a comic

I'm not confused. I'm saying that's a convenient excuse you now get to use no matter how bad the writing is.
What are YOU confused about? Did you seriously think because there's a self-conscious line of "I'm just going to act retarded because I'm trying to stay relevant and am secretly not that way" that makes this stop being exactly what I already described the first time around?

Low but true.

you're right, maybe it'd be more accurate to say she's trying to appeal to memespewers or s4s. I'd mention reddit, but Yea Forums is basically reddit at this point anyway

>writer is a blue haired landwhale
It makes sense now.

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Yes but we gotta be mad at something

> You will never treat Leah Williams and Zoe Quinn as the slam pigs that they are while educating them on Jim Shooter's EiC run during the 1980s

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>I'M NOT CONFUSED UR CONFUSED!
This comic was completely in character. The shark penis thing was weird, but that's only because I thought she already experienced thought bubbles before. If you weren't aware of her character going into this issue and the existential crisis she found herself in at the end of her run then you have no right to bitch about anything being "too convenient".

You might as well be watching The Empire Strikes Back and saying Luke's force powers were "too convenient" because you never bothered to watch A New Hope.

Yikes. That explains the tone of Gwen's character here. Some obese woman trying to project herself as the the cute and quirky Gwen.

She’s deliberately calling herself cringe and out of touch if she self inserts though

That's the point of Gwen isn't it? To be self aware of how quirky and cringe she is.

Is she from an English speaking country? Being obese is the norm in all English speaking countries.

>English speaking country
But thats every country

Native English speaking.

Oh wow, it's even worse than West Coast Avengers.

Tired: Challengers of the Unknown => Fantastic Four => Doom Patrol
Wired: Deadpool => Harley Quinn => Gwenpool

>Tired: Challengers of the Unknown => Fantastic Four => Doom Patrol => X-Men
You forgot the most famous title

I double-checked and an article I found said that Doom Patrol and X-Men were released too soon together for one to effectively be influenced by or rip off the other.

I'll add it if we can find a precursor to Deadpool or a descendant of Gwenpool; they'd have to be a DC character. Do you think Ambush Bug would count? Animal Man, maybe?

>woman's are self-absorbed sociopaths with no concerns other than their own short-term happiness.
so much this... *sob*
hug me anons

I mean it was clear that was always going to happen without a decent writer.

Goddammit, I would milk her, until she became flat

I'm pretty sure they mean the same thing.

In her original run she wasn't cringey though. From an outsider's perspective she was completely insane but that's not the same thing as being cringey.

Good point.
Moore + Gibbons on Watchmen

No one was watching for Winry.

Cool cause he's from, and still lives in Spain.

Naruto was never good though.

People don't like to look at ugly things. Who would've thought?

And therefore the target audience.

That's not hard to do since all WCA has going for it was art.

Worse user not better. WCA was pretty bad.

Pussy

Nocenti and Simonson could write good female characters.

It's because most of the female writers in Marvel are pulled through CBR because they wrote articles that sucked up to Marvel or YA shit and none of them really care for the comic characters other than to treat them like funny shit.

And to be fair a lot of the male writers Marvel has been employing are of the same ilk.

I think the best female writer Marvel has right now is Tini Howard and that's because she at the least has some interest in what she's writing and can make a coherent plot, still not saying much.

T’Challa?

>were released too soon together for one to effectively be influenced by or rip off the other
Not quite, 3 months is not so short, Marvel can easily rush the process to publish it faster, is just not that usual but again X-men was basically a recolor of Doom Patrol so all they had to do is publish it instead of creating it from the scratch.

I like Nocenti and Jo Duffy and Louise Simonson to Grandpa Zack but who else has there been since the 90s?

The actual answer is Kate Beaton and the fact that most female comic artists were just doing webcomics and small press during the mid 2000's.

I wish cloudflare would shut us down next.

Read something other than comics and YA novels

>From an outsider's perspective she was completely insane but that's not the same thing as being cringey
It is nowadays. She's in-universe acting like everything is a comic book, imagine someone came up to you and said you lived in a comic book and all that kinda stuff, it'd be pure cringe

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What's the problem? Yes it's trash but this is literally the fate of any comic hero after their original run is complete. Their development is discarded for a more long lasting caricature that you can jump to in any issue without following

You say this as if any comic in the last 1p years was written by a fit man

>I... am... your singing telegram --
BLAM.

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>Ants are ticklefags
It all makes sense.

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>Why are you upset about the ultimate fate of something you cared about
You must be fun at funerals.

I mean, can we stop pretending that comic book writers, and I mean from the Big 2 to the Indies, are the cream of the crop of writing talent? Nobody writing criminal fiction, romance fiction, comedy and all that have a problem writing X characters, but our medium does (and videogames for some reason). Maybe audiences are just more critical of said comic books and videogames, but anyone who is making actual money writing are doing books. The medium moved from kids entertainment to teenage entertainment to dirty, low brow humor to cheap action movies and now cheap sci fi movies.

Am I gonna say comics are for retards? No, but it's always been low brow stuff for low brow people. Can't be surprised that even the women who participate in this are also as dunderheaded as the men.

is this from some kind of fetish porn

God I thought that to.

I hadn't considered the possibility that women write women so badly because it's too realistic. I wish I could find this quote about bored women and their compulsion to destroy.

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Leah WIlliams, who is dating a gamergator, sleeps with editors for jobs, has even less writing experience than Gabby Rivera and her entire schtick is "what if like the character was... bi" is queer pandering

women suck at writing characters

Quality post.

Execution matters.

The intro was strong, and the vs. Zabuza was lit. It is clear that Kishimoto spent years perfecting and polishing the first arc. Then it slides downwards towards mediocrity.

That was really mean, user

She clearly had a "kawaii" appeal, she is not funny, she is cute, that's something that made her unique by western standards. Now she is just annoying, an even more shallow Harley Quinn that don't even try to be funny.

I liked the issue but there was a bit too much of the meme humour after the intro.This entire sequence was great though and I like Baldeon/Leah's reimagining of the gutter as some weird constantly changing void.

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Jesus christ she is the perfect fucking slampig.

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You never even read her comic did you? Her character developed beyond that as the series progressed to the point of rejecting her future counterpart’s chaos even if it cost her publication. If anything, this mini is a massive regression of her character.

>user could've tried harder on that gif too,
I'm nothing if not tryhard. Here.

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>Wimmen doing stuff
Another whiny incel thread.

Nobody tell Pierce, I saw her first!

>that
>landwhale

Whereas I am sure you turn heads every time you take your monthly walk down the street.

>Marvel acknowledges Hit or Miss

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Unless the definition of landwhale has changed, I didn't say she's ugly since beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all, I said she's fucking fat which she objectively is.

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>"what if like the character was... bi" is queer pandering
>queer pandering

I've simmered on this for years and now I finally have to ask.

WHAT THE FUCK DOES "QUEER" MEAN?

I've seen it thrown around so much on social media and the term confuses the fuck out of me. Does it mean gay? Why don't they just say gay?

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Lol. She didn't become cringe you all just got older. Stay mad and get dabbed on you cucks, this is gonna be - wait for it - legendary!

You ever listen to the Garbage song? If not get the fuck out you boomzoomer.

I've heard that X-Men was basically a bunch of heroes they had on the backburner that they thought weren't enough for their own book, so it makes sense that was their go to for churning something out quickly

It's smoke and mirrors. She is deliberately regressing so that she can have a new character arc. Marvel comics 101 kiddo. It's funny cause it's true.

Queer literally means homo or gay, whatever you call it.

whats with spideys weird black grin

I'm pretty sure a good number of people who use the term aren't gay.

Like, Kate Leth uses it and I know she fucks dudes.

It's a nebulous term for people that are mostly straight but want to be a part of the LGBT cult.

FUUUUUCKKKKKKK i just bought both mafex gwens.

my four

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I'm fairly new to reading superhero comics but is the reason for there being both a Gwenpool and a Spider-Gwen ever explained in character or did Marvel editorial really just think there needed to be two alternate version of Gwen Stacey to fill that...I don't know, blonde girl demographic?

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Gwenpool isn't Gwen Stacy, she's literally a girl named Gwendolyn Poole.

I mean the original Gwen as I understand was supposed to be Peter's original interest, but seeing as MJ took that role. Which opened the door to her doing anything else, even if it's other world's Gwen. Be it as Gwendolyn, Spider-Ghost or whatever have you.

So it's literally a coincidence that on the shelves right now there are two blonde, blue eyed girls with short hair both named Gwen?

observed

>muh books, muh literature

Stop putting authors on a pedestal, those people are universally failures save for an incredibly incredibly small percent.
Good writers, like anyone good at anything, work where the money is and with writing that's Hollywood.
If you aren't a screen writer, a writer for a sitcom, a writer for a comedy show, or some combination then odds are you're absolute bottom of the barrel for writing talent.

>This comic was completely in character.
For the last time: I'm not saying the retarded shit you keep bringing up isn't in the comic you absolute mongoloid. I'm saying BECAUSE the premise of "anything stupid or awkward I write was intentional because Gwen is pandering to dumb modern pop culture norms and I'm secretly still cool and intelligent" has been baked in you now have a free pass to take literally anything that happens in the story, no matter how stupid or poorly written it may seem, and say anyone who criticizes it just isn't in on your very high IQ in-joke about the writer / Gwen just pretending to be retarded.
Get it now, dipshit? It's the same reason "ironic shitposting is still shitposting" became a phrase here. When you claim you're only doing satire or intentionally portraying an attempt to be like stupid people as part of your story you're being an intellectual coward who gets to hide behind insincerity any time some idea in the story ends up not well received.

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Both in white and pink costumes

I don't I really disagree that screenwriters are where the most amount of talented writers go. You have to write in a committee, for one, and even countless shitty scripts can be saved by a number of things: actors, direction, editing, marketing and advertising. Compare all of that to a person writing a book and having nothing else but maybe an agent or PR guy.

* I don't really agree.

What is the point of that? Is clearly not funny and I don't think is trying to be funny, or cute, or fun or likeable.

>Nocenti
I don't know what happened to her but her Catwoman and Katana comics fucking SUCKED. Then again she infamously said she left all the Catwoman character research to her editor.

Apparently anything that comes across poorly in this comic was intentional and you're just being stupid for not recognizing and appreciating the brilliant satire.
I wish I could use an excuse like that at my job. There's no way to ever call her run bad now.

>Weebfag is a retard

Color me shocked.

>Cute doesn't sell

I snickered too hard. Thanks user.

fpbp, looks like shitty ass jerkdouglas tier art

The artist isnt American, dumb dumb.

Not a good example, all things considered.

GwenPoole was originally just a Gwen Stacy/DeadPool joke variant. Then it became a actual comic and the writer came up with a new origin and differentiated the character as something original

With even more reason, you'd think non-americans would at least have a notion that
>Hey, anime sells!

Those eyes + a grin like that would make for an amazing mask.

Out-of-universe, Gwenpool is based on a Deadpool/Gwen Stacy mashup cover. But in-universe, yes. Even her resemblance to Deadpool is unintentional on Gwen's part; her costume designer just heard her name and thought it was a codename and assumed Gwen wanted to be a Deadpool derivative.

>When a writer doesn't have creative control and rights over the characters, different writers will inevitably mangle your favorite character.
This is what ultimately drove me away from big2 comics. It's just so frustrating to see a book you like turn into a shell of itself without any of the things that made you like it in the first place.
And this is so ingrained in how people perceive the medium that if you complay people will just just tell you that an author's run is a complete story, which can be true when the book is getting canned and the writer knows it and cares enough to tie things up, but for long-running mainstay heroes it often isn't, the author is dropped after some random 2-issue arc with no sense of finality or closure to its plot threads that would allow me to start the new run fresh without any expectations of continuing from what I was reading before, instead you have a world and characters in the middle of something that promplty gets mangled by the new writer (who understandably wants to do their own thing, not follow up someone else's story), and years upon years of it just became way too frustrating. Getting invested in superhero comic characters and stories ultimately just leads to frustration.

On a related note, I find it puzzling why American comics have such a hard time holding an author for longer than one or two years (besides some outliers like Claremont's run of X-Men). This isn't really that long of a time compared to how long writers in other comic markets around the world stay on the same comic. I think that, given the run is successful, DC and Marvel should keep the author around or at least make them finish what they started before allowing him to just walk out (or before kicking them out). Every big entertainment industry is corporate as fuck, including other comic industries, but with American capeshit stuff it looks like the people making decisions are completely alien to what the appeal of serialization is.

No a comic character can't reference another without her company paying hella just for a name drop. Also the REAL Tl;Dr is that your writers won't admit they crafted your body and name to purposefully make people confused. You are a clickbait/harry potter fanfic teir character. Stealing the well known mainstream parts of established people in order to get eyes on pages. And less face it sweetie. You have no good stories. That shite about being cancelled is part of your origin? YOU DO NOT EXIST. You can't go it was my master plan to crash the comic industry. Because if it was that's fukt and you might be getting a lawsuit in the future. And thanks for the meme dances. It must be so easy to be a static shot so you can deny cashing in on pop culture if the fortnight devs come knocking. By the way Endgame did it first and Shazam

>drag on for the sake of milking merch money like One Piece
One Piece is the last manga you can accuse of that. I mean, once it ends sometime next decade and Shueisha and Toei feel inclined to somehow force a continuation, sure, but not now. Hell, if it was just to milk merch, Oda could have just kicked back and basically become a producer while other people handle anime and manga projects, like Toriyama and Kurumada do with their big IPs. Instead Oda is the guy who almost died a few years back because he kept postponing going to the doctor because he didn't want to mess up the release of the arc he was working on. He doesn't let his assistants draw a single living being in the manga, only background scenery (and sometimes not even that, if he's too particular about how something has to look like). He has drawn sketches and written concepts for what became One Piece since he was a kid, and back when he gave interviews more frequently he talked about things that wouldn't come to pass in the series proper until years after. If you think One Piece has overstayed it's welcome, the only thing you can blame is Oda's own autism.

What? That's not character progression. The "oh I might have an evil future sell" is a cliche plot.
>You never even read her comic
The catchphrase of every Gwefag facing criticism. Eat a dick

Yeah, One Piece is a passion project. It was a lot of unnecessary stuff and padding, but that's from it being a passion project. Oda has a huge boner for his work.

The anime's milking it, though. They're determined to be weekly, instead of shifting to seasonal. So we get like half a chapter or less in each episode.

What made Gwenpool work was partly the Gurihiru art

Imagine if Gwenpool was drawn by that meme Punisher artist that can only draw one face

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you could probably feed the entirety of the cannibal population in Papua New Guinea with those 2

What no kiss for Little Ol' Sue here?

Sue's kiss mark isn't in a normally visible place, if you know what I mean...

well she is the invisible woman

>tfw Gwen is canonically ticklish

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this new writer is the biggest hack marvel has hired yet

Her cringey behavior is easily explained by her reckoning with the shit way she was handled by other writers, and that caused her to backslide on her desire for more relevancy.

Maybe, but a lot of the current arc is just a rehash of previous arcs. Dressarosa was just Alabasta. Whole Cake Island is just Water 7 with Sanji instead of Robin. Wano is Skypea-ish, with incredibly stronk villain controlling over isolated island.

These arcs kinda made sense, but also pretty rehashy

In novels, women write great female characters, It is just the women marvel hires that suck at writing and have shit senses of humor. They need editors that are willing to tell them no.

greetings fellow kidsters

>109463713
fuuuuuck this explains everything. Fat ham planets can't accurately write high self esteem fit girls. No wonder new gwenpoole is such a cringey desperate tryhard, Lea is just projecting her own personality and existence in to Gwenpoole

I feel this completely. Good intro and the Zabuza arc was great. Unfortunately the show peaked there and it was a constant downhill from there.
>Then I realized Naruto is just a hunter x hunter ripoff

>This comic was completely in character. The shark penis thing was weird, but that's only because I thought she already experienced thought bubbles before. If you weren't aware of her character going into this issue and the existential crisis she found herself in at the end of her run then you have no right to bitch about anything being "too convenient".
you are too stupid

that in every gwenpool thread you keep trying to force into a meme and posting templates that only you will use

>Wahaaahhhhhh!!!! Stop liking what I Don't like!!!!

Go back to the SU thread you twat.

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Fuck, this has to stop being true!

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This is what I'm honestly scared is what is going to happen to My Hero Academia. But then again, I'm more of a manga person than an anime person, so should this come to pass, it wouldn't affect me too much

I'd love to see America domme Gwenpoole and turn her gay