They really are the most realistic way superheroes could go

It's basically showing the audience how superheroes would really be I.e narcissistic assholes. It's called the boys it's the only good capeshits out there.

No they fucking aren't.

This. I was was watching this and could see where where everything was going. I kept telling myself omg it's like I wrote this when I was a teen.

>the boys
>one chick
I am confused

It’s like X-Men that way.

oh, shut he fuck up

Is it? Is it really though?
I mean they had to completely reinvent characters in a way that completely divorses them from grass root everyman origins, so they could make them more heartless and corporate friendly.
This show doesn't feel like it was saying anything smart about Superheroes as they exist in fiction already, It felt like it was admitting (intentionally or not) that in order for them to be twisted enough to fit the narrative, they had to be completely changed from the ground up.

Yeah, exactly. It stops being a criticism/analysis about how regular people would become if they were given tremendous power, and starts reflecting existing origins of actual super villains.

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Maybe that's because the supes weren't the real bad guys.

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most people are normal so i think the most likely scenario is pic. between people treating you like a god, seeing the worst of humanity and freaks trying to dox you to kill your family, it's a lot more likely you'd just give up. jobs like firefighter, nurse have a high turnover rate because of the stress.

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Shit user I never thought about it that way but I think you are right on that one.

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Why not just have it show how a regular farm boy could become a fucked up sociopath if he discovered he had incredible powers, due to his life experiences twisting his views of the world? Instead of him just being a science experiment that was always intended to be a corporate tool anyways?
Changing a character that much just makes it seem like they are shitty people because of the flaws YOU invented for them, It doesn't come off as analyzing how the person would really turn out given similar circumstances in a more grim/brutal world.

Because that's not the story that Ennis wanted to tell, and that wasn't the message of The Boys.
A lot of people seem to be missing the fact that VA was the reason behind every problem in The Boys.

And simply sending the blame up like that just takes agency away from the characters, making the entire thing feel less interesting.

Absolute power is absolutely revealing. It doesn't always corrupt, but it does make a man's nature transparent.

That's the point, the supes were nothing more than a product that VA was selling. Now I'm not saying that all the "superheroes" in The Boys are completely innocent because it's shown that they really don't give a shit about anything other than getting paid.

The point is disappointing, and not as smart as it seems to think it is.

It just wasn't what you were expecting it to be.

On the contrary, it was way too easy to read this show, as other anons in this thread pointed out. I would have loved to be surprised.

Have you read The Boys or did you just watch the show?

>The point of this super hero pastiche isn't actually the super heroes, but that corporations are bad
I can see how that could be seen as a misfire.

This looks like a porno parody

I just watched the show, and that's what I'm analyzing. If the comic is different, I wouldn't want it to influence my impressions on the show.

no because good people actually do exist in the world

Well that's the fucking problem, isn't it?
You're talking about potatoes and I'm talking about cats, no wonder we weren't getting anywhere.

>porno

Its practically one

Fucking secondaries.

The fuck did you guys expect with OPs image specifically being the live action version?

Yeah, my bad for thinking that there would be people familiar with the source material.

My bad for thinking people would be familiar with the source material on Yea Forums.

>one chick

Two.

can you run that by me one more time?

Men was originally gender neutral.

I said that I'm the fucking idiot for thinking that people on Yea Forums read comics, I forgot that this is the live action adaptation board.

One thing I forgot since we got live action shit is that we actually get the equivalent of Anime only idiots now.

Now?
Where were you when the DCAU was prominent?

DCAU felt like an alternative universe that had nothing to do with the comics outside of the origin stories. It wasn't a direct retelling of a series.

Nope. The Levelers/Front Line and the entire world setting out to fuck them is the most realistic way superheroes would go. No one that can create gods is going to fucking lay down and take it like a bitch like Vogelbaum.

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DCAU was it's own thing and was still a cartoon. This is more like the fucks who only watch Batman movies.

Does he?

Vagelbaum was in a situation where they accidentally created something much more powerful than they realized or could control. Also, are we really using fucking No Hero as a comparison?

The whole marketing empire stuff seems so dumb. They have a guy that can catch a nuke and the best they got is make him sell action figures? Have him speak at stupid church festivals? Charge the military a few million so he can blow up mud huts? If they bothered to train these guys then they could've ran the entire world. Hell they might have even pulled off the coup if Vought had actually wanted to take over.

He had the keys to kingdom. Even Homelander was getting stir crazy towards the end because of how emasculated he was. With the right ambition, they could have been kings.

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Can't get through the first few episodes.

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How come?

The Boys aren't the capes. The Boys are the boys working against the capes.
They also have a girl.

Consider that it's coming from a comics writer who hates capeshit. Ennis' problem is with Marvel and DC for creating and perpetuating the dominance of the genre - for being soulless corporate entities that incessantly push the product that is superheroes. Thus, his story is one in which the real bad guy is of course the company that creates and pushes the product that is superheroes.

So he's Jealous

Because its popular and it goes against my contrarian point of view.

It feels more like he's trying to point the blame at actual powerful corporations, not comic book publishers.

I will never forgive Seth Rogen for ruining his and Mallory's character.

>writes for DC/vertigo and then marvel for years
>winds up hating the corporate BS
>writes story about how corporate BS is indeed BS
>hurr durr he jelly

Goddammit I fucking hate realistic deconstructions of superheroes. Superheroes are superheroes and should be goofy and fun. Boyscout heroes who save people and punch the bad guy is just the way it needs to be. The silver age was right and Alan Moore can suck my dick.

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I like grim heroes, but sometimes they get outta hand and end up being some bizarre inverse of everything wrong with Silver Age logic.

Lucky for you The Boys isn’t realistic

100% this. My only but big criticism against the show

I sort of wonder if The Boys is a latter-day Watchmen in terms of how much it shits on capes and will fuck up the genre.

>Why not just have it show how a regular farm boy could become a fucked up sociopath if he discovered he had incredible powers, due to his life experiences twisting his views of the world?
But Zack already did this.

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>and will fuck up the genre.
It ended 7 years ago and nobody heard about it until Amazon made the show.

But he wasn't, that's just a meme people push.
Synderman cared a lot to the point he was petrified with doubt which oddly more unsupermanly to people than going full on Evil Dictator.

>Fuck of the genre

Not really.

>contrarian posting TTS reaction images
sure

Good thing superheroes only exist in fiction and should remain like that, then.

This is what every, and I mean EVERY, take on capeshit get wrong. The Boys, MHA, basically any one that tries to go meta.

Writers that don't understand the genre will try to give every hero a unified origin and aesthetic and declare only super powerful heroes matter and then base the dynamic off those assumptions.

Capeshit works the way it does because every hero can have a radically different and unpredictable origin and raw power doesn't mean success and status. Every major team has at least one guy who has no power at all but is really good at a bunch of theoretically mundane stuff. Every team has one or two members who's absurdly powerful and could beat any even encounter except the encounters are never even. Every team will have encounters where most or even all of the members will be totally out of their depth in some way but will have to compensate.

If everyone has some easy to reproduce origin and there's no external force calling them to rise to the occasion of course they won't be "real" heroes. That's like saying Arthur would never be king if he didn't pull a sword from a stone.

Rip Xmen

I think your issue is you're seeing it as a base parody/satire of capes.
But Boys and MHA more use capeshit as a tool to satirize different things. They aren't interested in recreating Marvel or DC then trying to spin it to be realistic, they just want to use familiar ideas of superheroes and powers to get across their points.
Also you left out Watchmen which is very much a bunch of unpredictable origins that came together.