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Who would win?
Jonathan Smith
Jaxon Ross
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Jose Long
The best Saitama can do is knock him away. Juggernaut can't be defeated in any conventional way.
Adam Sullivan
We know Saitama’s vulnerable to cuts.
Christopher Sanders
Who hit's first the thread so I'd say Saitama via higher speed.
Asher Nelson
What?
Carson Kelly
Hulk beat him baxk in WWH and Saitama is prob at least as strong as he was back then
Cameron Torres
>We know that Saitama can get very temporary superficial scratches for comedy that vanish in the next page.
He literally gets clawed by a Cat cadre-level monster and it does nothing.
That shit is for lulz, like when he can't catch a fly despite being able to move at preposterous speed.
Kevin Smith
The winner is the one who hits the other one first, so Saitama will win because he's faster.
Gabriel Russell
The problem is that you are using a character that's rooted in powerlevels against one that completely and utterly ignores it. Saitama doesn't give a shit if you are the god-emperor of every superhuman, if you aren't funny and you can't into gags chances are you WILL get turned into a pulp.
Now, how funny the Juggernaut is might literally save his pelt from Saitama just one-shotting him after tanking everything he got.
Wyatt Parker
Reminder that Saitama would have no choice but to surrender to Maytag.
Noah Morgan
Who?
Blake Clark
>people still don't fucking understand Saiyans is literally unbeatable
>that's literally the entire fucking joke and people miss it
Saiyans can beat anyone. Anyone. Yes, your favorite character. Yes, the most powerful mcbullshit person you can think of. Yes, even them.
The only fucking beings that stand any fucking chance against him are characters like Droopy or Popeye, toonforce shit. Everyone else? He beats them.
Ryan Wilson
Fucking... autocorrected Saitama, god damn it.
Brody Watson
Saiyans?
Elijah Wright
Saitama's punches are strong enough to destroy half the galaxy in one swing if he actually tries. Because he can only face one direction at a time.
Christian Wright
Antagonist from Girlchan in Paradise.
Jonathan Davis
Juggernaut beats No Limits Falacy man like a woman in a ryona doujin.
Lucas Martin
Kirby beats the shit out of him.
Samuel Davis
Saitama getting his ass beat and his fans crying like Benfaggots is hilarious, so rule of funny means Juggs wins.
Levi Walker
Who wins?
Thomas Myers
he could catch it(it was every single time inside his palm), but he couldn't squash it because it was too small.
Sebastian Moore
>rule of funny
saitama is strengh is a joke, but its not only a joke, its literally 4 wall breaking type of power
Eli Fisher
Green Lantern.
Joshua Jenkins
No its not.
He's what diet Superman would be in a low-power setting like BNHA. Nothing more.
Connor Martinez
Saitama could likely punch his way out of Kirby's stomach dimension.
William Young
Doubtful.
Brody Butler
Other than housing powers that he can call up, has Kirby's stomach dimension been well defined?
Storage limits, etc
Jack Lewis
If I recall, it's less a 'stomach' and more an entire universe onto itself. Assuming you aren't immediately processed into a new power or fuel for his star spit, you can actually physically duke it out in there with little overall effect on Kirby himself. And given shit like Hypernova fruit, there's seemingly no real limit to what Kirby can fit in there.
Kevin Martinez
>GER fans vs Alien X fans
Lets Get Ready To Rumble
Jordan Gomez
MWE Juggs vs Saitama. OH SHIT IT'S THE JUGGERNAUT!
Elijah Bell
>another thread where Yea Forums has no clue what they're talking about and tries to establish a power level for a character meant to have none
Joshua Collins
Gay
Jonathan Miller
>H-He's not supposed to lose!
Neither are many characters, and yet that doesn't mean they can defeat characters demonstrably more powerful than they are.
Is the Fonz invincible because he's never lost a fight and has never been harmed?
Eli Morgan
>Is harmed by a cat
Yeah get fucking real. Juggs would rape him in a death battle and then you'd go cry just like the Benfags did when Failure X took the green pill.
Jaxon Johnson
I want Krillin vs Saitama to actually happen.
DBZfags vs OPMfags, the salt will be glorious.
Christopher Barnes
you really think Jobbernaut's gonna do shit?
Juan Sullivan
One Meme-Man can't even beat Krillen. Jugs would rape him to death.
Jordan Ross
you know nothing of the Crimson Gem of Cyttorak.
Cooper Carter
What can she do?
Jackson Martin
When has he ever broken the fourth wall?
Jaxon Taylor
GER
David Cox
BASED AND WILLPILLED
John Kelly
I mean Saitama already "wins" by a technicality because he can literally stop Juggernaut from advancing.
Kayden James
Saitama, because he is literally a joke character with the "I win" power. Only retards try to make any meaningful comparison between him and whatever Goku character they're fans of.
Hey guys, who wins between bugs Bunny and Superman
Benjamin Sullivan
you could always go joke vs toonforce and do something like say
Saitama vs Popeye
Blake Scott
But Juggs by himself is not hilarious and is an extremely serious character, which already disqualifies him completely.
Luis Scott
powerman
why aren't threads like these banned on sight?
Isaac Jones
David Perez
What about the next REAL death battle?
Austin Bailey
Oh, Juggernaut, easy.
Carter Edwards
>Joke character with an "I win" power
Except that's not what he has. At all.
I long for Death Battle to slaughter this overrated meme of a character just to watch you faglords bitch and moan.
Parker Gomez
Kiryu stomps. Unless they give Dragonzord a pity win.
Jayden Fisher
She can taaag things
Like graffiiiti
Dominic Sullivan
>Yea Forums fags are so fucking insecure about their characters losing to a literal joke character that they'll come up with a cheap excuse to beat him
Would you fuckers do the same if this was Bugs vs Juggernaut?
Jordan Young
She tags things and can alter the price of any item to cost whatever she wants.
She can up the price of instant ramen to $100 per package. Saitama would never be able to afford his groceries again if he challenged her.
Parker Gonzalez
What do you mean cheap excuse? Juggs demolishes him. Saitama's power level is mediocre even without him being a "joke".
Brody Parker
What if he complains to the manager?
Carter Parker
It costs $50 to talk to a manger.
Gavin Turner
Jesus fucking Christ way to miss the entire fucking point. Saitama and wins because he's a joke character, just like how bugs bunny would beat Juggernaut because that's the Joke.
Blake Phillips
Saitama is a joke character, he's on the boundary between being an extremely powerful super and just using toon force.
What matters is the joke and in OPM the joke is the anticlimax of a fight or the fact that Saitama cannot use his power to crush a mosquito or his speed to win at video games.
So the winner depends on the writer.
Maybe it's funnier that Saitama doesn't get a hit in and he bounces off Juggernaut's chest to be flung off to a different battle entirely.
Maybe it's funnier that Juggernaut has a melodramatic breakdown over the unassuming bald man stopping him in his tracks.
It's up to you.
Benjamin Moore
We'd all win if Yea Forums would stop leaking.
Jaxson Williams
Hulk didn't beat him, he took advantage of a never before seen and never addressed later weakness of Juggy's powers to temporarily get him off the battlefield. This is par for the course when a writer is wanking his pet character.
Ethan Turner
Okay but, could he beat One Punch Man?
Sebastian Cooper
>GL
no he’s the jobber of the JL
Jordan Hill
Yes, using as a reference. OPM is meant as a joke in fights. The setup is always "this guy is so strong he might even beat Sa... Oh nevermind," or "why doesn't saitama-senpai notice me". But OPM vs The Spot, Saitama getting ko'd in such a lame manner would be the funniest outcome. Saitama always gets removed from fights in the most mundane ways, that's why he always gets lost.
Caleb Gonzalez
Serious question: why do people care if one character could beat another? Does it make you a lesser person for being more of a fan of the "loser"?
Cameron Taylor
You are aware Bugs Bunny lost several times, right?
Joseph Green
When One-Meme can cut the film strip in half, then he can be compared to Bugs Bunny.
Until then, Superman is more of a 4th wall "can never lose" character because at least he's aware of the 4th wall with all the winking.
Carter Baker
Why do people care about sports?
Jason Gutierrez
Yeah like to that tortoise or gremlin
Asher Lee
sure
But only when it's funny though, and the unstoppable Juggernaut losing from a silly wabbit is a lot more fun than the other way around
Jaxson Robinson
>Implying Saitama getting punked isn't the funniest thing in the world.
Leo Smith
His speed doesn't matter against King actually having skill at Vidya.
Xavier Turner
Juan Green
Are you kidding me? just read any team with Juggernaut as a member, he's always one of the funniest character.
Gabriel Foster
Not really cause while fanboys of him would be mad that'd make fanboys of juggernaut happy and who TF wants that.
Anyway the whole point of one punch is he's basically the powerman meme but for manga. His whole thing is making fun of the pointless "who would win" fanwank by having the ability to always win and how the reality of being the absolute strongest is it gets boring. He's gonna win and not in any complicated way he's just gonna punch kinda harder than normal maybe.
>Wah but juggernaut has more complicated powers to counter a punch with bs momentum
Look he can muscle punch his way out of high level telekinesis. Shit doesn't make sense except he will punch him and juggernaut will probably explode from the force cause his abilities will have never been tested against such a punch until then so he never knew there was a limit and it won't even be 10% of OPM's energy.
And then the X-Men will get credit for defeating juggernaut.
Benjamin Jones
After Ben vs Hal anything can happen, so sure give Saitama a random win.
Ryder Sanders
Well how durable is Saitama?
Landon Foster
Invulnerable and can't feel pain. The only exceptions is if it's funny. Which is why he'd always lose to cartoon hax like Droopy or Popeye. You can even extend that to cartoon and comic characters whose whole thing is having powerhouses job to them. So Squirrel Girl can beat Saitama but only off panel.
Julian Foster
Ooh, what about the Tick? Because he has drama power.
Kevin Diaz
Alien x can rewrite reality and gold experience was shown to be unable to fight heaven ascended DIO who's main deal is rewriting reality
Logan Parker
By feats? Somewhere above planet level.
Andrew Wilson
This is neither here nor there, but Spider-Man actually hard counters King Crimson because his spider-sense gives zero fucks about timeline erasure given how both work.
Camden Phillips
>he can literally stop Juggernaut from advancing
Unless he has power negation, no he can't. Juggernaut has NEVER been stopped. It's kind of his thing.
As in momentum is literally his power. The only times he has ever lost, he was either already not moving or he was thrown or redirected. And even then he didn't die because he can't die because that would be stopping.
Kevin Edwards
>GER
*laughs in causality*
Julian Richardson
Justin Fisher
Never hit anyone with his vaunted causality shit ever
Ayden Garcia
Cú Chulainn. His power is to kill you because you are already dead. He uses his gay bulge to do it.
Jason Gomez
Isn't Juggernaut just a really strong guy who has been defeated by random X-men, Spider-man and the Hulk on multiple occasions?
I am not really an X-Men guy so I don't really know but it seems like the guy who works on cartoon joke psychics to always insta-win has a much better chance.
>Posts the worst jobber in a series full of jobbers
Holy shit nigger what are you doing?
Christian Roberts
Jorge joestar novel says universal destrustion and is not enough to effect GER
Thomas Rogers
That's only because he fought against people with high luck (as in the power to literally defy destiny).
>Holy shit nigger what are you doing?
Lancer doesn't job. He literally only lost to hard counters. When he doesn't get highly specific bad matchups (and more importantly his master isn't fucking Kotomine) he stops sucking. In this case he IS the hard counter.
Colton Cox
Wank. Saitama is just really strong, his power isnt to beat anything in one punch he does have toon force or "joke" strength
Easton White
Juggernaut's the avatar of an extradimensional demon god (as in a demon and a god, not a god of demons) connected to a dimension of infinite force who can literally only die if his god allows him.
He has infinite regeneration and infinite momentum which he can turn off and on. He's basically if Cyclops's eye blasts fucked Deadpool's healing factor.
Ayden Harris
What the fuck is up with comics?
Oliver Anderson
Alien X
GER didn't stop a universe reset so I don't think he can stop a universal tier character.
Jace Martinez
His punches have power negation. In that whatever mystical mutant forces juggernaut has, opm can punch harder to the point that he'd just obliterate him. Whenever some unstoppable being goes against his punches it just gets destroyed.
God it's so funny how this gag character making fun of shonen power level fighters w complicated badass powers works to piss of non anime fanboys too. His whole thing is "you know your ultimate badass deep complicated power having suped up favorite? Yeah opm can beat him w a punch" as a character. That's it. It doesn't matter how strong and bs physics based wank the other guy is or how his powers work. Opm, by definition of his character, will punch him and defeat him.
Jaxon Green
You're right sometimes he plays around and punches a lot at weaker strength.
Lucas Brooks
Well then we have a villain who is supremely wanked to the point of utter unstoppability vs a nigh-invincible hero who has the power to instantly slapstick all opponents to death.
Kind of seems like there is no logical answer to this one and that we are fighting for no reason.
Carson Johnson
See the cool edgy origin of his powers just makes it funny that saitama would just punch him real hard and kill him.
Lincoln Parker
To be fair, Juggernaut is one of the most broken characters in Marvel. Extradimensional forces like the demon god he's an avatar of can go beyond cosmic tier. They're like 5D imps if you need a power comparison to something you might be more familiar with.
On top of that, characters that are "really good at one thing" also tend to end up broken. Juggernaut combines both.
It's not a matter of punching harder than Juggernaut (which you can't even fucking do because he can punch through dimensions at higher ends of his strength, punching harder than that would just toss you into another reality before you got to him).
It's that even if you atomized him, he'd just fucking regenerate and also that his power is to not fucking stop. It doesn't have a value. There isn't a harder.
Hunter Williams
>and kill him
>bark_no_you_don't_understand.jpg
This isn't Cell. He doesn't die if you kill him hard enough. He's been killed plenty hard before.
Gavin Campbell
>Saitamafags
Saitama isn't Bugs Bunny or Popeye, he's what happens when you put Goku in Naruto.
Josiah Cook
Opm has atomized punched beings that regenerate and it just happens to be a punch hard enough to stick and in the end he still wasn't trying that hard.
I guess best juggernaut would get is getting punched back to marvel universe. Opm could also punch the demon god he's an avatar of. That's how strong he is. He is stronger than juggernaut at full level.
Jaxson Adams
Jesus fucking Christ.
Was Juggs always this comedically overpowered?
Because when I was a kid watching cartoons he was always just that big nerd who was powerless without his hat and jobbed to Peter Parker of all people.
How the hell do the heroes even beat him and why isn't he treated as Thanos, Annihilus and Galactus-tier?
Chase Baker
Because he doesn't plan on destroying or ruling galaxies?
Aiden Cooper
saitama, nothing juggernaut can do against someone who has no limit
Brody Foster
Really strong enough to beat anything in one punch. True
Hunter Murphy
Yes and nothing can ever survive against One Punch Man, That's kind of his thing.
Isaac Morris
>Opm could also punch the demon god he's an avatar of
Sure, if he knew where he was and could travel between dimensions.
Ultimately though, that is your problem. You're really fighting Cyttorak remotely. OPM doesn't do remotely.
>How the hell do the heroes even beat him
They either throw him away, mind control him, or defeat him while he isn't moving (his power is infinite momentum, but he still needs to be moving to use it, Spider-man took advantage of this in the one and only time he beat him).
I also forgot to mention that he doesn't need to eat or sleep and he has super strength even without the infinite momentum.
Logan Bennett
>proceed to One Punch Juggernaut sending him back to the true body of extradimensional demon god and killed them both
End. Next
Gavin Johnson
What about Power-Man?
Ayden Morales
As long as Cytorrak is alive, Juggernaut can come back from the dead.
>sending him back
Does not work that way.
Blake King
Didn't stop and capable to ignore is different
Ryder Anderson
It doesn't matter whether you stack infinite infinite with infinite concept setting because One Punch Man will just One Punch anything you put in front him.
Brody Brooks
I know where this is going and it involves the Time Trapper.
Kevin Garcia
Didn't a villain in a dream sequence take him 2 punches?
Checkm8, atheists.
Austin Powell
Both are fictional character, one is unprofessional meme, the other is officially recognized professional franchise.
The only winner is who can memed which character harder.
>does not work that way
Trust me it works
but who was the dreamer?
Leo Morales
Then opm would just keep obliterating juggernaut until his god eventually came to him to figure why he's gotta have his avatar regenerated over and over and then opm would just punch him too.
If someone can physically touch juggernaut enough to throw him than someone can punch him and if opm punches w intent to kill that dude will die.
John Gutierrez
He’s not exactly a “commit galactic genocide and rule the universe” kind of guy
Jayden Lee
Throw him into space. Guy can’t breathe.
Jaxson Moore
he doesn't need to keep obliterating. he only needs to one punch and juggy will realize how he can't regenerate at all
Julian Price
>arguing against Power-Man
Robert Martinez
he can just hold breathe long enough to destroy entire universe as hinted on 2nd OP
James Martinez
Saitama that literally the point he beats anyone with just one punch
Blake Hughes
>but who was the dreamer?
He was.
Juggernaut doesn't need to breath. What part of
>nothing can stop the Juggernaut
don't you understand?
Samuel Foster
>Thinking OPM could overwrite a Gods will
That's like saying OPM could beat True Darksied no problem
Cameron Gray
The problem is Juggernaut is also a "that's literally the point" character and unlike Saitama his power comes with god damn immortality as a subpower.
Cooper Miller
Throw Saitama into space.
Aaron Long
user it took quite a bit of punches to beat that alien nigga with one eye. plus I don't think he's ever faced someone as strong as Juggs.
Ian Garcia
power scalers are stupid when they try to take their hobby serious in any case because they think stories are based off pseudo mathematics and not off writer feelings
it only really works when you try to do crossovers
for in universe stuff, its always going to be how the writer feels
Thomas Peterson
Also likely true.
Man I do love opm just for this kinda asinine "this overpowered character has a lot of complicated justification for being undefeatable" power wank debate is done because opm, as his defining power, will just punch him and win.
Kayden Richardson
>Juggernaut is able to generate a mystical force field that grants him additional invulnerability to any physical attack when it is at its maximum.
Juggy wins
Joseph Ward
Juggernaut doesn't have a lot of complicated justification for being undefeatable.
The explanation is 5 god damn words.
Jayden Phillips
>Juggernaut can defeat toonforce
In other news, Goku can beat Superman because his god ki is magic, apparently.
Eli Jackson
Alien nigga died saying he knew opm wasn't even trying. It's often said that we've never seen OPM's full strength punch cause he's always holding back.
Matthew Adams
Juggernaut literally dug through the earth user, are you gonna say that OPM can beat Superman because of some Rodger Rabbit bullshit? If that's the case Arale from Dr.Slump is the most powerful character in fiction
Gavin Morales
You are entirely correct, but also don't realize how "really strong" he is. On a scale of 0 to 100, he is a yes.
Does it make sense? No, not even in-universe, but that's just how it is
Michael Kelly
Idk being an avatar of a god on top of a mutie is some wank.
Andrew Bell
>Arale from Dr.Slump is the most powerful character in fiction
well yeah
Noah Phillips
Well nigga will have to get serious with Juggernaut considering he tanks hits from people like Thor and Hulk
Brandon Lewis
Hulk and Thor are usually jobbers
same with Juggernaut actually
Isaiah Garcia
Opm would punch Superman and win
Ian Cook
for some reason anons keep forgetting about the Crimson Gem of Cyttorak Juggs has inside of him nigga literally doesn't need to breath and can just come down like an immovable indestructible asteroid
Aaron Brown
Juggernaut isn't a fucking mutant.
Jack Collins
Except Saitama doesn't have toonforce, he's just a large beatstick in world without any such beatsticks.
He would legit lose to Krillin.
Adam Turner
> Arale from Dr.Slump is the most powerful character in fiction
Arale two-punched Dragon Ball Super's Vegeta and treated him like a one-pump chump. So yeah, Arale.
Liam Campbell
Nigga I will cut you
Juggy go this tho
no
Ryder Torres
Death Battle is so fucking gay, no wonder Yea Forums is all over it.
Grayson Mitchell
He'd probably punch him once at his basic punch and get excited that finally a challenge when it didn't work. Then he'd punch harder the next time and kill him and maybe accidentally some town too cause he'd punch too hard.
Kevin Turner
>If that's the case Arale from Dr.Slump is the most powerful character in fiction
How new you are to these kind of threads
Samuel Murphy
>no
He would though.
Elijah Cox
Juggernaut was once a fucking skeleton and kept on going.
Nathaniel Gonzalez
like Ben 10 vs Green Lantern new
Josiah Lee
nah nigga Superman survived worse
Nigga Juggernaut died and came back about 5 seconds later
Nathan Brown
Saitama was thrown to the moon and didn't really need oxygen it seemed then jumped down to earth like an immovable indestructible asteroid and punched a god tier immortal alien and at no point was he close to using full strength.
Parker Bennett
Do you even know what toonforce you illiterate nigger? The whole point of Saitama is that he's powerman. Narrative > Superpowers and narrative-wise the "joke" is that Saitama beats everything with one punch and is depressed because of it, there's no "he's stronger than him because powerlevels" or "He has these feats of strenght" nigga if you aren't bugs bunny or billy and mandy chances are they aren't gonna make the cut.
Connor Cox
Opm would punch the skeleton too and win
Cooper Walker
So then Juggernaut has the same durability as OPM?
Brandon Wilson
This isn't even a question. Saitama has unlimited power to a comical degree. Juggernaut (who I love for the record) is just superhuman tough and has the 'momentum' thing.
Jeremiah Johnson
then the skeleton would reform
Adrian Jackson
Well damn now I wanna read Juggernaut. Where’s he at his best?
Kevin Morales
It is exactly what he has, and you don't have to be a fan of the character to know that. As the entire premise of the manga he is unbeatable. It only takes a few X-Men to beat Juggernaut.
William Hughes
This makes me wonder, has Juggernaut ever not been a jobber? Maybe I'm being biased, but only time I remember Jug being terrifying was when he was a skeleton.
Landon Stewart
Toonforce is shit like straigh up taking over the animation. Saitama just punches really hard.
Caleb Morgan
One example of toonforce is what The Mask grants its wearer.
Same goes with Arale
Saitama does not have toonforce.
Toonforce > OPM
Sebastian Ward
"Big" characters like that tend to be jobbers when they're villains. But on a technical level, he's pretty powerful. IIRC he fought World War Hulk to a standstill.
Ethan Price
Of course toonforce trumps everything else (aside from maybe one or two things, i am not that informed), it's literally turning everything around because it would be funny
This thread isn't about toonforce tho, it's about catching as many anons in a retarded argument, and OP is the clear winner here
Kayden Cooper
No opm is stronger.
Caleb Richardson
>People calling Saitama OPM
Retards or toonami watchers, possibly both
Julian Rogers
nuh uh>is just superhuman tough and has the 'momentum' thing.
don't forget the Gem that gives him invulnerability to physical attacks and make's food,water and Oxygen unneeded
Hudson Cooper
He had a minor role in Fear Itself. There's probably an X-Men tie in this happened.
Juan Gomez
He just lets whatever he's fighting hit him but the only thing we've ever see hurt him is a cat.
Carter Collins
Cool he doesn't need food and water. Cape baldy punches him and crushes his god jem killing him. Literally done it before against stronger immortal being
Anthony Peterson
Well, Juggernaut's technically a cat, except he doesn't have a tail and he's human. So therefore he wins.
Easton Scott
Boros ain’t shit in either of the Big Two’s multiverses.
Ayden Garcia
Nah he'd talk shit and job
Samuel Howard
And Saitama would job to Buggs Bunny. Maybe that's why you shouldn't make VS threads like these.
Bentley Rodriguez
Juggernaut is a jobber in his own universe idk why you think he would be different against one punch
Bentley Long
And he wasn't shit against saitama by his own admissions
Ryan Butler
Captain Atom is a jobber too. That's a non-argument. The real argument is Saitama's whole shtick to always win no matter who he's up against.
Hunter Torres
I didn't make this thread.
Also he'd yeah bugs would looneytoon trick him into punching himself probably
William Bell
>Nigga Juggernaut died
Exactly, and nobody ever managed to kill Saitama.
Pretty obvious who is stronger.
Kevin Edwards
>toon force
Saitama is not like Bobobo or any toon character. He has no toon force, he's more of an attribute/conditional sorta thing.
Noah Watson
Still can't defeat Mr. Rogers.
Ethan Butler
>Literally get their asses handed to them every arc and only survive through villain incompetence
Gavin Lee
Based on feats, yes.
Ian Parker
I miss Bobobo
Jacob Taylor
Would that really count? I mean, it'd be Saitama beating himself technically...
Nathan Lopez
The only argument for Juggs is if he were truly and completely invulnerable, but it's a proven fact that he can be injured, particularly if that fucking helmet's off and he can take head damage.
The only real question would be if Saitama could stop the unstoppable Juggernaut while he's charging him head on. Which, like, yeah. That's the point of OPM. Even if you want to throw Juggy a bone, he'd just knock Saitama on his ass, then eventually have to hit a wall or something that would make him stop, at which point Saitama would obliterate his ass.
Oliver Johnson
Depends if GER is able to activate or not. If Ben starts the reset before it can I think he'd win. Otherwise no.
Jonathan Anderson
Juggernaut, no contest.
Baldy man can't even kill a mosquito.
Connor Garcia
Nah his strength is also for lulz.
The whole manga/anime is about that.
It was a nice joke at first but got boring af
Jace Jenkins
You're right, Saiyans but no Saitama.
Zachary Turner
>bencucks still trying to win at anything after Ben got stomped like a bug
KEK
Julian Miller
Saitama punches him to death. With only one punch
Tyler Hernandez
The guy who made that image actually did so because he knew both fanbases would lose it if they saw their "I win button" lose
Ryder Ward
only if your powerlevel is 0
saitama power is enemy power ^ 2
he is week to things with no power like kittens or flys
Jace Edwards
>Juggernaut can't be defeated in any conventional way.
War Hulk overpowered Juggernaut and made him his bitch. Nimrod overpowerd Juggernaut and made him his bitch. Onslaught overpowere Juggernaut and ripped the Cyttorak Gem out of him.
Luis Nguyen
superman has a bugs bunny tier villan and he wins
David Johnson
kiryu could lose because he has ryu on his name and they hate street fighter
HOWEVER since is a megazord. and there was a megazord fighting game on the snes, he could also lose because street fighter 2 was realy famous on the snes days and they hate street fighter
Gabriel Morales
>he's what happens when you put Goku in Naruto.
Tyler Scott
Godzilla crossed over with Marvel which crossed over Street Fighter, that’s why Kiryu will lose.
Jordan Powell
yeah but there is a power ranger fighting game out RIGHT NOW. guess who also has a game out right now?
street fighter V
Chase Roberts
Mr. Mxyz ain't Bugs Bunny tier. He lose way too much to even be consider in the same tier as Bugs Bunny. If anything Mr. Mxyz is Pluto the dog tier. Got enslaved, dehumanized and treated like a pet for your entertainment.
Wyatt Scott
Saitaima can't kill humans. Juggs wins
Isaac Adams
But there was a Godzilla movie this year! And a Marvel movie!
Kayden Miller
Friendly reminder Juggernaut got beaten by Squirrel Girl and Deadpool
Adam Roberts
and power ranger did crossovers with DC, that is rival with mavel and own Mortal kombat that is a fighting game just like street fighter
and the Power rangers is a tag team game, just like marvel vs capcom that has ryu on it
Angel Cook
Saitaima got beaten by king. At video games.
Jose Turner
What about Megas XLR? It's the mech version of OPM.
Jace Moore
The better question is who would win He man or saitaima?
Jordan Long
Saitaima survives the big red button but dies trying to out eat coop
Adrian Cox
Mega XLR is destroyed and his item drops are taken by Genos to use to enhance himself.
Eli Diaz
>War Hulk powered by CELESTIAL tech and he didn't made him his bitch, maybe you should read the comic not only two pages.
>Nimrod used its advanced tech and defeated him with something similar to a psychic attack.
>Onslaught tells him that he couldn't defeat him because he was protected by the gem, so he uses his psychic powers to lock him inside the gem, basically BFR... similar to how Magik defeated him.
Saitana doesn't have mystic, psychic or super tech attacks so he's fucked against the Juggernaut.
Kayden Jackson
Justin Morris
So he bested him in combat? Hulk wasn't trying to kill anyone in that event, so that's as much as you were gonna get.
Sebastian Ward
>Juggernaut has NEVER been stopped.
It took celestial implants, but it still definitely counts.
Leo Cox
>Juggernaut's the avatar of an extradimensional demon god (as in a demon and a god, not a god of demons) connected to a dimension of infinite force who can literally only die if his god allows him.
Isn't that Hulk now?
Adam Wood
Yeah, Ewing kinda stole that.
Isaac Cox
He can take greater than planet level hits though. It's just that he has no flight and could easily get lost in space.
Landon Carter
GER can't kill Alien X but Alien X could just transmute him.
Asher Flores
It would probably reset him as soon as he transformed.
Brody Carter
Ryu was literally a Power Ranger at one point.
youtube.com
Nolan Rogers
I only read a chunk of One Punch man but his powers seemed meta. Like, powerlevels didn't matter because it was a gag. I think you'd need someone with similar powers to best him. Juggernaut just plays it straight, and even then he HAS been stopped before. I'm not saying those times aren't exceptions, but DB loves focusing on exceptions, don't they?
Dylan Wood
Man, I love Power Rangers and Street Fighrer but this is pretty lame. People don't retain their regular outfit features when they morph.
Tyler Ward
the other one literaly has ryu on the name
so it could go either way
Matthew Wilson
>IIRC he fought World War Hulk to a standstill.
That was Sentry. Hulk just sidestepped Jugs and he kept going till he dug himself into a ditch.
Gavin Peterson
Garou tanked like 3-4 Serious Series techniques before he finally went down.
Logan Sanders
Juggernaut can be stopped with 'magic' and apparently his momentum can be altered mid-air. These are both pretty general weaknesses that I feel people like to ignore.
Julian Murphy
Saitama couldn't even kill a fucking mosquito.
Isaiah Wood
sounds like a Chuck Norris fact.
Chuck Norris's punches are strong enough to destroy half the galaxy in one swing if he actually tries. Because he can only face one direction at a time.
Cameron Wilson
Thor God Blast also stopped Juggernaut.
Austin Cruz
Alien guy was supposed to be Goku to shut up all the DBZ vs OPM nonsense. Any matchup that is "quantified power" against "unqualifable power" will go to the latter.
Parker Edwards
The real question is how will they fuck this up?
Anthony Baker
Dragonzord win so PR doesn’t make an ozone club.
Brandon White
does Power Man exist in the Dimensional Merge?
Levi Jackson
Saitama would win. Jugs loses badly.
Really the only being Saitama can’t beat is Superman. Saitama is actually resilient to reality warping and bending attacks. While Superman is affected by reality warping and bending, he’s superior to Saitama in every way possible.
Chase Ortiz
being this fuckign retarded
Nathan Martinez
OPM and Powerman are essentially the same character. OPM is basically what happens when you make Powerman into a full-length comic.
Michael Fisher
>and he didn't made him his bitch, maybe you should read the comic not only two pages.
Not that guy, but I have read the comic, and yes he did.
Jaxson Davis
I'm not saying that War Hulk didn't defeat Juggernaut, I'm just saying that it wasn't a one-sided fight.
Landon Morales
with a VERY convenient and not that hard to do method of defeat 100% of the time. Bugs doesn't have that weakness
Jeremiah Lewis
Saitama's limits aren't even well established, and the origins of his powers are staunchly ambiguous. For all intents and purposes, he may actually be a reality warper who got so caught up in the belief that his powers came from strength training that it's the only way he allows his abilities to manifest. Just because it never occurred to him for it to happen any other way.
Jack Adams
They won't. Tommy deserves to win.
GO
GREEN
RANGER
GO
William Taylor
What reality warping?
Christopher Collins
Bugs lost to a gremlin. From the Kremlin.
Leo Hall
Maybe if he teleports into Kiryu’s cockpit
Zachary Wilson
He's slow enough to lose at video games and is hurt by a cat. He's clearly got limits. He had to break out serious punches against a guy that would be JL fodder.
Krillen could kick his ass.
Jeremiah Gonzalez
It's hard to say because it's hard to tell where saitamas limits are
we know he's a whole lot stronger than everything hes encountered but he's not fought anything that would be exceptionally powerful in marvel
it's like asking which is bigger X or 2000 where x is
Hunter Roberts
See
Michael Myers
2000
Leo Clark
It's like saying Bruce Lee would beat up Superman because he kicked everyone's ass in Enter the Dragon.
Ryder Allen
>He had to break out serious punches against a guy that would be JL fodder.
He broke out serious punches against someone who, for similar reasons, may have been a latent reality warper with the same flaw as him.
>He's slow enough to lose at video games and is hurt by a cat. He's clearly got limits
Neither of those actually relate to physical prowess in any meaningful way. Same for the mosquito. If anything, that just lends credence to the idea that his powers aren't static and limited by his mindset.
Matthew Mitchell
>Boros a latent reality warper
Nigger please.
Hunter Richardson
Oh, you were talking about Boros?
Honestly, Boros himself is probably a figment of Saitama's imagination. Not even kidding.
Owen Robinson
why
Carter Myers
X is less than 100, mea culpa
Aiden Foster
oh fuck my bad
X>100 i mean
Andrew Howard
Juggernaut is a joke now. Anything impressive he's done is immediately offset by a dozen instances of jobbing.
Jayden Clark
They can't be the same character since Power-Man prevents powerwanking arguments.
Saitama is the prime opposite of that
Matthew Morgan
In what sense?
Powerlevels being total fanwank is a core theme of the series. The entire narrative is built around ranks and statuses, only for it all to be continually shit on by a literal doodle that doesn't give a flying fuck.
Ian Morales
Just to clarify;
Boros is probably the latent manifestation of a story Saitama concocted when he was 5, got totally bored of, and forgot existed. Boros thinks he started his journey 20 years prior, but the reality is that he hadn't even existed prior.
Carter Ward
Isn’t that just the creator’s story of Boros. How he made a comic as a kid called Sun Boy or something and that Boros was the villain that hero never beat.
Justin Hall
Power-Man's sole purpose is to be the antithesis of powerwanking battles
The sole fact that there is ranks and statuses(not matter how useless) defeats their similarities altogether.
Power-Man is the outlying concept made to end stupid argument shit.
How can X fare against Y?
Power-Man, now gtfo.
Cameron Sullivan
I'm sorry, not antithesis.
More of an end-all be all stop to inane shittery.
Nathaniel Wood
Power-Man is a non-canon meme.
Here's my Power-Man fanfic:
"Power-Man got raped to death by Aquaman. The end."
Poor Power-Man, so weak...
Ayden Baker
The answer to power level arguments isn't to make someone powerful and say no one can beat him you absolute retard.
Christopher Ortiz
Essentially, One sees fiction writers as reality benders in themselves and wrote OPM as a reflection of that. That's my theory, at least.
Grayson Gray
The point is to not beat him since that point is moot and that energy spent is better off making better quality posts in the board.
That's it.
There is no need to be upset.
Bentley Bell
>Hey guys, you can't find a character to beat X so give up
You stupid faggot, they literally start threads like this.
Angel Morgan
No, that's stupid and self defeating. If that was powerman's purpose, then he fucking sucks at his job because people still wank about powerlevels regardless of his presence. And powerman sucking at his job is a contradiction in itself, leaving the only real conclusion that you never understood his point to begin with.
Powerman doesn't end the arguments. He renders them stupid. Which is saitama's essence.
Cameron Miller
Are you a fucking dumbass? Having good reflexes and being athletic won't help you at all at video games. There are literally multiple examples of this in esports. Especially that esport charity even where the professional athlete team up with the professional gamers.
Dylan Rivera
>He's slow enough to lose at video games
Found the fucking button masher. I bet you play Eddy in tekken, you fucking faggot
Aaron Ramirez
I do.
Joseph Smith
Half of his shtick is that he half-asses all of his everything.
All of it.
The guy even basically accidentally super-thousand-cloned himself by moving too fast when he copied what would basically be a speedster fighter.
Even things like his "super serious punches", he just looks bored as shit when he does it.
I mean, Saitama's whole point is that he is probably infinitely powerful, but he has zero skills. I would absolutely not be surprised if he could punch hard enough to do something dumb like split dimensions into pieces, but a kid could absolutely stomp him in a math challenge, or in tic-tac-toe or something.
Liam Rodriguez
That argument can go two ways:
1. that alien guy had ultra-top-tier regeneration abilities.
2. Saitama looked bored as shit the whole fight anyway and didn't look like he was trying at all during his punches.
Carter Cruz
Benjamin Perez
Ben should have won that fight you cuck.
Grayson Harris
seethe and cope
Isaac Cruz
You fucking mongoloid
>"By HIMSELF he is not a funny character"
>"Read him in any TEAM up"
Do you see where you fucked up?
David Baker
>implying chuck norris can only face one way at a time
Justin Cook
It largely depends on scaling
Mostly Alpha-1surviving a moon exploding and how the Megazord can scale to that since it should be superior to Alpha-1 and it did fuck him up (people who talk to the research team are saying Battle Mode is valid, I think it may be because when it was first formed, the other Zords were summoned by thr dagger itself) and if they consider HCW Gigan not applying to the whole "he slows down in Earth's atmosphere" detail shared by his other incarnations in supplementary info since doing so should negate Dragonzord's speed advantage considering Kiryu hit him
Reaction timing depends on which feat was superior
Drakkon dodging Saba's laser while unmorphed (yes it does scale to the Dragonzord since the monsters they fight should scale to the rangers and they also fight the Zords themselves when made giant and the Dragonzord defeated the Tigerzord which copies Tommy's movement 1:1)
Or
Kiryu dodging Hedorah's laser
As for pachinko scaling, I don't even think vsbattles is dumb enough to do that.
And before you bring up Atari Spacegodzilla, scaling people in fighting games just for being on the same roster or because they can fight in an arcade mode is asinine since doing so means Dan can scale to Akuma
Strength wise, it'll be which is more superior
Holding up at least half of the Cayan Tower or Kiryu throwing a 25000 ton incarnation of Godzilla
Lucas King
This isn't from a fighting game lmao
David Edwards
One of the researchers wants him to fight Krillin
Torrian and Luis want Popeye
Ben wants to play the waiting game for now but judging by the leaked Season 4 list that had Scrooge vs Shovel Knight, Saitama vs Goku was considered for a season finale
Jayden Gomez
What's it from then?
He said Atari trilogy so I assumed it was from those games
If its from Double Smash then the scaling doesn't work since it'd be like assuming Odolwa scales to Majora just because they're both bosses
Adam White
Honestly, it's best to play the waiting game for now until the series ends. It's also probably why we don't have another Goku fight since the manga is still ongoing.
Adrian Carter
Who wins
Bugs bunny or juggernaut
Saitama is from a gag manga
Jayden Johnson
Sam confirmed on Reddit that they sometimes consider Goku vs Superman 3
He also said they've considered Starcraft and Warcraft fights with Warcraft Dragon Royale rejected due to massive size differences
Evan Fisher
They’re exactly the same.
The only difference is some people are inexplicably stupid enough to argue against one of them.
Ryder Baker
They might do Superman vs Goku 3 one day. But not until the series hist a lull so they don't have WHY DIDN'T YOU CONSIDER THIS NEW THING happening in the comments.
Charles Taylor
but i want based swan to dunk on gokufags and vsbattleswiki with superman's laundry list of universal+ feats
Brody Nelson
In a technical sense sure (both powerful) but Power-Man's shit is supposed to be unsurpassable especially in replicating feats alone.
No speculation of what he can do because he's Power-Man.
His thing is not just fighting either, it's meant to to say "shut the fuck up about X in the internet and move on"
No narrative gimmicks, no enemies, no toonforces.
Just Power-Man and gtfo.
Jace Harris
Former is from a gag show too and toonforce can rewrite or break narrative rulings so Bugs.
Jackson Baker
It's more like everyone beating Galactus or Ghost Rider who shouldn't. It's jobbing powerwank. The only argument for stopping the Juggernaut when he doesn't want you to is Cyttorak was pissy at him the week for some reason.
Camden Brown
>Saitamafags STILL think this meme character beats everyone because of toonforce or being a gag character despite the fact that none of these things are true
I can't believe the character meant to end dumbass versus battles according to his fans has amassed a fanbase even more annoying than that of other wanked characters, Saitama niggers have no self awareness. One Meme Man jobs to fucking Krillen, dude is only planet crust level and he's the most powerful character thus far in his own universe but that doesn't mean much when his world is full of weaklings. Saiyan saga Goku stomps, MCU Thor stomps, Superman stomps, Juggernaut stomps, and characters that actually have toon force (probably) stomp and don't forget nigh or full omnipotent characters.
Benjamin Smith
Wasn't it stated by the author that Saitama could punch half the Universe in one punch? And the only reason he can't punch the whole Universe is cause the other half would be behind his back.
Julian Watson
Saitama exists to trigger basement dwellers like you.
Brody Taylor
No. That never happened.
Joseph Sanders
Well Boros threw him at around 30% light speed to the Moon. Which did absolutely nothing.
Jordan Nelson
He can just throw a part of his glove in the other direction and come back. We also don't know if he actually needs to breath as when he was thrown to the moon he didn't remember that he needs to hold his breath for a couple seconds.
Michael Phillips
No but Saitama can punch whole multiverse and beyond outerverse megaverse omniverse with one punch. He is literally stronger than anything
Jaxon Edwards
True he is just really strong. Really strong enough to beat anything in one punch. It is not toonforce because Saitama one punch can obliterate anything whether it is reality warper, toonforce, omnipotent gods/demons/outergods/alien power etc.
He is simply too strong to one punch anything.
Joshua Anderson
Saitama (Original Manga Version) is literally doodle of bald dude with power strong enough to one punch anything.
Power-Man is a doodle of bald dude with power strong enough to end powerlevel argument.
Same Analogue of beyond supreme archetype character viewed through the lens of lower dimensional being.
Nicholas Sanchez
>Fans memeing a character to death means he's funny.
Cancer really does addle the brain it seems.
Bentley Foster
So this is like nerd niggerball then?
Joshua Taylor
Just in
Co proves that Jocks are infact the best at video games, since they have better reflexes.
Evo soon to be replaced by fighters from the octogon since the nerds got their lunch money taken.
Leo Richardson
For some reason Tatsumaki being an unbeatable beast is more annoying and boring than Saitama being an unbeatable beast.
Parker Sanchez
What?
Gavin Wright
Yes it is.
It means you can't go, nuhuh this guy is stronger.
Nope Power-Man.
It means you have to make your character interesting by some other measure than power, because they literally cannot be the strongest because Power-Man, so make them have some other trait.
It was the intended use of that one SCP where nothing can defeat it, so therefore any SCP that said they could, couldn't so they had to rewrite the other SCP to make it make sense.
Nolan Perez
Correction. It's not because of toonforce.
There are too many correction that needs to be done on your post.
Aiden Stewart
Couldn't he just pick up the Juggarnaut, jump into space with him, and then leave him there and jump back to Earth?
Aaron Morales
Yes, Juggernaut's only gimmick is that he can't be stopped when in motion, he still only weighs a few hundred pounds, anyone with moderate super strength can hurl him into space where he'll die.
That's the weakness of those types of characters because you just throw them not punch them if you want to do damage.
Grayson Anderson
Yes but we are talking about OPM so one punch killing Juggernaut is more sensible and in-character than Saitama throws Juggernaut to space
Hudson Jenkins
>Saitama vs Popeye
Saitama steals Popeye's spinach and eats it, but gets sick because it was expired.
Owen Edwards
Saitama punches Juggernaut into outer space. Juggernaut eventually returns by bouncing off an asteroid or something, but Saitama already went home.
Jeremiah Foster
who would win threads are always dumb but this one takes the cake.
The entire basis for Saitama's character is that he will always win, no matter how tough an opponent he's up against.
He's basically got toonforce.
Juggernaut is a character who's strong but is routinely beaten. He's tough but he literally has no chance against Saitama.
Ian Reed
But muh franchise is better so it has to win at everything forever.
Xavier Turner
She gets beaten in the webcomic
Kevin Campbell
It's literally in his theme song.
One punch, that's it; I always win.
Juggernaut isn't weak but he's lost to plenty of people before. People much weaker than Saitama, whose force of a punch is enough to redirect a planet destroying attack. The air pressure is enough to shear a mile of rock that is at least a hundred feet wide.
Lincoln Bailey
>Saitama
>literally and consistently too strong, unbeatable and never lose
VS
>Juggernaut
>too weak so he has to rely on magical power of extradimensional god
>Unstoppable, but did I mention how on several occasion he lost
Dominic Taylor
Superman is alien who pretends to be human
Saitama is human who pretends to be superhero
Superman has longer history and inconsistent feat and reboot than Saitama
Saitama has consistent feat with his namesake throughout his story
Saitama win
Luis Wood
> Saitama niggers have no self awareness
If only you grasped how lacking you are when you made this post.
Nathaniel Howard
You mean the sassy child?
Jeremiah Sanders
Saitama can't beat human characters.
Tyler Russell
>OPM jobs to Krillian
Where does this meme come from?
Landon Williams
In what? Since when?
Mason Wood
Keep telling yourself that if it will make you sleep better.
Leo Bailey
Speed 'O Sound Sonic is human, and basically S rank.
Owen Reed
And Suiryu, and Snek and probably a couple I'm forgetting.
Wyatt Thomas
Officially approved Yea Forums powerlevel chart
Saitama > Your favourite character unless it is Saitama too > Batman > Supes > Everyone
Connor Rivera
Saitama's power is "He broke his limiter." Limitless power as a result.
Luke Lopez
An analysis by death battle researchers.
Camden Adams
...
William Diaz
So what's the scenario? Juggernaut demolishing the supermarket where Saitama buys his discounted supplies?
Camden Cooper
>OPM fags
>”Oh you comicfags and your power level arguments. Knowing that nothing can beat Saitama means I’m not a power level fag”
>Have it pointed out that his feats are mild at best
>”SHUT UP POWERLEVEL FAG MY WAIFU SAITAMA CAN BEAT ANYONE”
This autistic lack of self awareness is why it’s going to be so fun watching death battle turn your sacred cow into hamburger.
Andrew Martinez
What a stupid fucking thread, another shilling this clickbaity shit.
The whole fucking concept of his character is that all the dramatic power level bullshit doesn't matter, you screeching fucking retard.
Benjamin Long
This reeks of a man who failed high school math and science, and refuses to acknowledge a game played with numbers and logic. If you hate this shit, go back to your outrage and waifu threads. We can't hurt you there, and you can wallow in your refusal to use your brain all you want. Also, Saitama gets his shit wrecked by FTL planetbusting characters and Power man is fanfic inadmissible in vs debates, end of story.
Samuel Sanders
>Also, Saitama gets his shit wrecked by FTL planetbusting characters
The fuck are you talking about?
Mason Campbell
That's the currently available limit of his feats. His best feat is beating a possible planetbuster (more likely continent level) that is probably hypersonic, so anyone that is a planetbuster for sure and FTL is probably above his means. In the interests of not overestimating his power, we don't accept his power to be any higher than the strongest thing he beat.
Carter Lopez
Shit taste
Evan Clark
> His best feat is beating a possible planetbuster (more likely continent level) that is probably hypersonic, so anyone that is a planetbuster for sure and FTL is probably above his means.
That's a very interesting claim. On what basis did you conclude that this fight was evenly matched, and therefore could be used as an estimate for Saitama's powers?
Julian Sullivan
I don't think it was evenly matched. It's just shitty practice to extrapolate. Saitama's data and body of work suggests generally country to continent level feats, with one much higher point of data in Boros. He beats all his enemies easily, but with the exception of one of them they're mostly in the same ballpark. But you start extrapolating, and you end up in the realm of madness and wishful thinking.
Nicholas Young
death battle researchers who wanked GL?
Brody Rodriguez
>numbers and logic
>On fiction
lmao
>available limits
>character said to be limitless
lmao2
Thomas Ward
His power coin was specifically made with him in mind, it's why he's called the Ryu Ranger
Also can we just appreciate the fact that Ryu is canonically both an X Man and a Power Ranger?
Lucas Murphy
No. he is not canon to power ranger. Collab with unofficial video game app and platform is not canon
Carter Young
Well, we always use our own reality as a baseline. It's a fun game. Pity you can't play, given how feeble your mind is. And who said Saitama is limitless? Where's your quote from an interview with ONE?
Gabriel Foster
Literally the ony thing we ever see him even flinch at is "comedy damage"
Jordan Williams
> Saitama's data and body of work suggests generally country to continent level feats
Saitama's data and body of work suggests that country and continent level feats aren't enough to keep him even remotely entertained.
>and you end up in the realm of madness and wishful thinking.
I really do not know how to explain to you any more clearly that that's literally the point of the character.
Josiah Ross
But those feats are all we have. It doesn't matter how casual they are, if we have no concrete idea how much they actually taxed him. The "point of the character" is meaningless. We use what they do and did, not what we wish they can do. Otherwise we're just writing fanciful fanfiction of our headcanon at each other. If that's what you like, more power to you I guess but I like the crunch. And the crunch says Saitama gets wrecked by most herald levels.
Ayden Gutierrez
Fun until you realize when we reach to concept of dimension, idea, etc no author can grasp it correctly
Jaxson Bennett
You mean that actually read the comics?
Ayden Torres
Reading GL comics and not watching Ben cartoon, yes.
Tyler Howard
That he actually had to try a little.
Camden Gomez
Define "Try a little".
Thomas Hill
What is crunch? Is it your newest fanfic and headcanon?
Leo Smith
Reminder that Demonbane is the strongest above fiction character because he killed omnipotent creator on his verse according to feats.
Demonbane > Featherine > Kami Tenchi > Anything from DC >= Anything from Marvel
Kevin Collins
>The "point of the character" is meaningless.
No. The point of the character is everything.
And you're missing it entirely.
Adam Lee
Well, that's why dimensional tiering is generally rejected by most sane people? And why we go with feats, and how they would probably play out in reality to the best of our knowledge?
Aiden Lewis
>>The explanation is 5 god damn words.
And Saitama's is two words.
Landon Allen
>Implying Kami Tenchi is powerful at all.
Yawn.
Josiah Ortiz
Then put Kami Tenchi below anything DC and Marvel. It's true he has 0 feat.
Isaac Barnes
Saitama gave a potential planet buster a pity-fight before taking Boros out in a single punch. Boros even said Saitama had been holding back the entire time.
Kayden Reyes
Dimensional tiering is really fucking stupid when you remember high school chemistry telling you that particles have --no-- dimension. So anything involving particle manipulation cuts across all dimensions.
Kayden Stewart
How does the Saint of Killers fit in there?
Hunter Thompson
It fits in your head. Not my head because I don't care about him.
Brayden Robinson
Wow, edgy
Lucas Watson
Crunch is the numbers we get from calculating feats, taking into account the circumstances of the feat in question. They are generally put through something resembling peer review, to see if the method and results seem legitimate.
The "point" of a character means nothing. A big fish in a small pond is still a small fish. Yujiro Hanma is unstoppable in his universe, but he get annihilated by the likes of Piccolo.
Anthony Anderson
If we compare character power across different verse, then actual official crossover character is stronger than any omnipotent character from any fiction because those omnipotent character from one verse can't break the barrier of license holder.
Jace Green
>The "point" of a character means nothing.
The point of a character means everything in fiction.
>A big fish in a small pond is still a small fish
No, a big fish in a small pond is a big fish in a small pond. You're extrapolating as much, if not more, than anyone else when you make claims like that.
Gabriel Foster
This
The point of a character means everything in fiction.
This so much.
It doesn't matter if peer preview your fictional character when they reach conceptional level and claimed their beyond concept is beyond other author concept nonsense.
Charles Allen
It was one researcher but odds are its a shared mentality
shadesblogs.blogspot.com
Also he didn't start this trend
Fucking Seth (yes, I know) did
Jordan Brooks
Looks like Saitama won both in fiction and out of fiction.
Carson Cruz
The Fonz's concept is that he also can't lose
Can Fonzie beat Saitama?
Jaxson Gonzalez
I have no idea what you're trying to say here.
Ah, I deleted part of my response. The full thing was supposed to be "The biggest fish in a small pond is not equal to the biggest fish in a big pond". My bad. my point about about the "point" being of a character being moot remains, though. If the point of a character in a primarily street level piece of fiction is that they're supposed to be unstoppable, they're not going to be unstoppable when compared to even comparatively minor characters in settings where the baseline is far above street level.
Andrew Rodriguez
Sure. Fonz would probably beat OPM in whatever hijinks the Fonz would come up with.
But part of Fonz character that makes it so he doesn't lose is that he wouldn't challenge Saitama in something Saitama would beat him at in the first place.
Oliver Perez
It truly bring a tear to my eye
David Phillips
> "The biggest fish in a small pond is not equal to the biggest fish in a big pond"
If we use this then Chinese Cultivation character is the strongest since they always get stronger and adventuring into bigger pond and bigger realm while any supreme being from any fiction never shows actual feat of being supreme being.
Juan Johnson
What the heck is that fanfic hero shade site?
Luis Price
>The full thing was supposed to be "The biggest fish in a small pond is not equal to the biggest fish in a big pond".
And my point is that there's nothing to say that the biggest fish can't happen to exist in a small pond. And that's really the point of OPM, it's the story of what would happen if a blue whale mysteriously found its way into a small lake.
Asher Turner
opmfag win
juggsfag lose
randompowerlevelfag lose
William Sullivan
>shadesblogs.blogspot.com
>But let's give Saitama the benefit of the doubt. The only real way we can determine Saitama's full strength (based on what we already know) is to look at the difference between his casual punches and his Serious Punch, and use that as a baseline to try and determine a grade beyond that (knowing the series he probably has something like "Super Serious" and another level beyond even that, but let's not make too many assumptions here). It's not an exact science, but let's play what-if.
We know that his normal punches are city level. The middle grade for city level is 200 MT of TNT equivalent, according to the OBD's Comprehensive Energy Scale.
The high end for his Serious Punch is about 115 Zettatons of TNT (about twice the GBE of Earth) or 115000000000000000 MT.
This is so much of a difference that subtracting to find the exact difference and adding would basically just be slightly less than doubling it. So let's multiply just to see how far we can take it.
Fair and thoughtful.
Hunter Bell
>But if you're a huge OPM fan, don't worry, I am too! This is honestly the best case scenario for both characters, Krillin finally beats a strong guy without anyone else's help, and Saitama would be thrilled to have an opponent who can finally beat him. It's a win-win.
Reminder that true fans should be happy Baldy finally meets his match.
Samuel King
based retard fallacy poster
Xavier Harris
I want him to be depressed like me
Carson Morris
Get Backers > Supes
Hudson Harris
>Superman brings DBZfags to heel
>Hal breaks the backs of Benfaggots
>Jugs humbles OPM
Why are Japanese characters so weak?
Dylan Hernandez
Of course he has to breathe, it’s the same reason he can’t fly. He’s just a very very very strong, durable and fast human
Brody Scott
>Ben
>Japanese
Cameron Miller
If that's your take on it, but I'm inclined to point out that said blue whale wouldn't be alive for very long which kind of throws a kink in your metaphor. That, and even from that point of view the largest blue whale in a small lake would probably never be able to reach the size of the largest blue whale in the actual ocean. That, and you're leaping to conclusions when the data suggests Saitama is simply the biggest largemouth bass. I'm responding to only you because I have no idea what the other guy is saying.
Xavier Davis
Ben 10 isn’t Japanese
Eli Green
You heard me.
Kevin Jenkins
He is spiritually japanese.
Elijah Phillips
>If that's your take on it, but I'm inclined to point out that said blue whale wouldn't be alive for very long which kind of throws a kink in your metaphor.
No, if anything it reinforces the metaphor. It's actually core to the theme of the series that Saitama is suffocating in his small pond.
Anthony Gonzalez
How?
Austin Clark
Using the same equivalent , single punch from Mido Ban from Get Backers is equivalent of infinity^ininifity ton because the world setting on the series is the qualia of all human mind.
Everything you can imagine everything you can't imagine is included in it.
A world where OPMfag think Saitama can win against Juggy
A world where Juggy think Juggy can't be stopped by Saitama
A world where user think Krillin is stronger than Saitama
A world where OPMfag think Saitama is the biggest whale in the fishpond
And any infinite variations of that world exist in Get Backers and Mido Ban can punch through any of them.
Nathaniel Evans
>Baby's first noosphere
Yawn.
James Sanders
This. Anyone would have realized how much boredom Saitama carries throughout the manga.
Thomas White
It's pretty well stated that Saitama has another series of punches called "Death Punch".
The total failure to address that makes it difficult for me to take this seriously.
Justin Morgan
I’ve only seen the anime, didnt that just wreck a mountain?
Josiah Fisher
>Get Backers
en.wikipedia.org
Can you please show where anything you said actually happens in the story?
Luis Cook
It inflicts death to anything. Mountain wreck is just a minor side effect.
Isaac Murphy
That's the setting on Infinite Tower. On manga. i don't watch its anime.
Cooper Parker
Is it like Simon Belmont’s Vs Battle Wiki Page?
I don’t think that could stop the Juggernaut
Bentley Williams
>think
That's where you are wrong.
Adam Flores
We don't really recommend using vs battle wiki for any kind of discussion.
That site is biased and very slow to update for some stuff. All top tier on that site is pretty much character wank of its moderator.
Henry Jenkins
>anything
Smells like NLF
Isaiah Rogers
Yeah, but my "dying" is more along the lines of actual dying as opposed to spiritually dying of ennui. And Saitama still doesn't have the concrete numbers to say he's any higher than massively hypersonic continent level. You can run in this circle all you want, but you still don't have word of god or actual feats to back up Saitama being worth putting on a higher pedestal than that. Only your headcanon fanfic metaphor about the "point" of his character. Which I guess reinforced my point all along.
Levi James
Sounds like someone hasn't read source material
Thomas Perry
Has he used the punch before?
Any feats?
Thomas Scott
>Yeah, but my "dying" is more along the lines of actual dying as opposed to spiritually dying of ennui.
I'm embarrassed that I have to explain to you that "Fish in ponds" was never literal in the first place. I don't know why it took you until now to realize that was a metaphor.
>Only your headcanon fanfic metaphor about the "point" of his character.
The "Point" of his character isn't head canon, you anus.
Mason Perry
And with that breakdown in civility, I'm done with this conversation. Have fun with your headcanon and metaphors.
William James
Civility broke down after you put "point" in sarcastic quotes for the 3rd time and used the phrase "headcanon fanfic". That onus is on you.
Jordan Reed
Saitama wins again
Nathaniel Thompson
Stop the unstoppable, kill the unkillable, destroy the undestroyable
Austin Ward
That's the character. A deliberate embodiment of NLF.
Angel Morgan
>spider-sense gives zero fucks about timeline erasure
explain
Juan Russell
me
Jayden Gray
How?
Caleb Garcia
Ben 10 isn't Japanese you normie faggot
Alexander Sanders
Pretty much, him never stopping, then just being stopped by running into Saitama is exactly the type of defeat OPM is build on.
Jace Ward
This single page justifies Vsbattles' existence
vsbattles.fandom.com
Camden Hall
>there are actually discussion threads underneath it
>that are receiving dedicated bumps
Jesus