Admit it Yea Forums. Disney is the WORST part of Kingdom Hearts. Complete filler and once they ran out of good animated films, the games became horrid as they couldn't hide the filler anymore through nostalgia.
Series would have been better if it was strictly original content AND if they needed properties, they could have used other videogame franchises or animes. The mouse owning KH is the worst thing. Also Aqua is shit. She should have died.
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Final Fantasy was the worst part of Kingdom Hearts. We didn't get any worlds, they doubled down on emoness, and Setzer went from heartbroken over his adventuring gf in FFVI to FAAAAABULOUS even by FF standards
From the thumbnail it looked like that bear thing was a pair of asscheeks.
As if removing the Disneyshit would make this FF knockoff any better. JRPGs were a mistake.
That's what World of Final Fantasy is for. Granted the Final Fantasy characters are still ruined.
I honestly don't understand the appeal of this game.
Fun.
I know this is bait, but speaking as a Disneyfag and a Squarefag, I agree with this.
The Disney part of KHs always felt like either glorified cameos at the best of times, or blatant corporate dick sucking. I'd love for KH to fully embrace both sides of its creation outside of what is currently popular, akin to Smash Bros, but Nomura, Square, or Disney doesn't want that happen, possibly all three.
The attraction finishers in KH3 are a good example of this. Nobody give a fuck about the teacups or carousel in Disneyland, and I'm pretty fucking sure that pirate ship isn't actually based on anything. The Disneyland train was nice touch, too bad you almost never fucking use it after the Titan fight.
>Also Aqua is shit.
Fuck you too.
t. someone who has never fucking played any JRPG
I've dabbled enough in them to know they're trash.
The only draw to KH is that they are big, gay games, and sometimes it's just fun to play a big, gay thing. The gameplay isn't great and the story is utter nonsense.
Translation: I've never actually played them to any meaningful degree, so I just shitpost about them and call them shit regardless
Gameplay is amazing.
Only KH2FM
And I guess KH1 if you're in the mood
>>Also Aqua is shit.
>Fuck you too.
Die in a fire you pile of shit. Look at the first two sentences. It describes Aqua's fanbase:
steamcommunity.com
So kill yourself. Tired of this literal shit no personality character being so popular because of her tits and frankly other gaming females have bigger assets than her. Even Shantae is sexier than Aqua.
>HOW DARE HE DISLIKE SOMETHING THAT I LIKE?
stop playing videogames for kids,simp
And Final Fantasy is a knock off of Dragon Quest. And I don't understand how that series is so popular.
>Only played a few minutes of something
>THAT MAKES ME AN EXPERT AND I HAVE GROUNDS TO DISMISS AN ENTIRE GENRE BASED ON MY OWN BIASES
Kh3 is alright and 3D is alright if you decide to not break it. Bbs was alright for a psp game.
Does my not enjoying something somehow impair your enjoyment? If that's the case, then I pity you.
faggot
No, I just like shitting on retards like you for being retards who think they have any room to talk about anything they have no real knowledge in
Nah, FF had some distinct differences from DQ, not that it matters anyways since it all the same company now
Yeah, you're steaming. Calm down, lad. Accept that people are allowed to not like things.
The whole fucking thing was awful.
The plot is hilariously bad even ignoring the forced crossover junk.
DQ is stock and dull as shit while FF has its own personality. Sure the personality is usually bad depending on the game but at least it isn't boring.
>BBS was alright
I can agree for the most part
>KH3 is alright
Ehhhh, sometimes
>DDD is alright
Fuck no
>DQ is stock and dull as shit
Isn't Dragon Quest inspired by Dungeons and Dragons?
Why does KH creates so much butthurt.
Because these days Disney has become an easy company to hate.
KH is basically a Disney shilling game. They don't care about FF.
Donald Duck makes every single thing he's in better
They pretend it's "bad" and they are "ironically" playing it yet then obsess over it
They just don't want to admit they like something so goofy and childish
The levels could be good. It's just the plots of those worlds only really ever mattered in KH1
Anyone find it a little suspicious that the details surrounding Nomura ""bumping"" into a Disney employee strangely vague? What the fuck were they doing in Japan in the first place? Odd timing, that talks of KH began around the time Sakaguchi got booted out of Square. Management shifted around so hard that projects started having problems as well and FF was slowly turning into a laughing stock?
Kingdom Hearts and the Disney worlds should be two separate games (they just don't mesh well together)
KH3 is kind of like vanilla KH2. Good but needs improvement. Hopefully the final mix can pull the leap that KH2FM did
Speak for yourself. It's definitely a childish game which make it a true mystery how anyone above 13 still play it.
>tfw Donald Duck is canonically the strongest caster in the final fantasy multiverse
KH selling point was the crossover idea between FF and Disney. KH3 was criticised heavily for the lack of ff characters. It can never stand on its own.
I love a lot of goofy and childish things. The childish shit isn't the problem. The nonsensical serious plot built around it and piled with layers of stupid shit to make it seem complex to brainlets are what make the whole thing suck.
Oh boy a thread where a bunch of comic book nerds and people who argue about tranny frogs share their thoughts on a video game series they have a passing knowledge of.
JRPG are nice until you notice how all are pretty much the same plot structure, unless you're a teenage or someone too blind to see how shitty they are you will probably end up noticing it soon or later.
They also take TOO MUCH time to beat a regular playthrough. I don't have that kind of time anymore or interest in leveling up which takes time.
Man it feels weird to be a 23 year old Boomer and played all of these games when it first came out. Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories for the GBA is the first game I bought with my own allowance money. Look, Kingdom Hearts is cringe, but fucking amazing at the same time. Its escapism in the highest sense of the word. Nomura's insane 200 IQ autistic mind mixed with a Disney JRPG mashup is only really truly appreciated if you grew up with this franchise like my fellow late 90 baby boomers did. If your a Zoomer this shit will go over your head, because you have no attachment to this shit. Xion is best girl. When I finally played Kingdom Hearts 3 after 13 years of waiting, I fucking lost my shit at every little thing that happened. Just seeing KH Hercules after all those years was awesome. And finally going to Olympus was awesome. Fuck you OP. Kingdom Hearts is Disney. Kingdom Hearts is Nomura's Japanese ADHD vision of FF characters. Kingdom Hearts is life.
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Real boomers lose their shit with this video.
Square and Disney shared a office in Tokyo. That's how it happened.
>23 year old
>Boomer
>Xion is best girl
A tranny? You have shit taste. Any "female" character who can switch to male is shit.
my problem they don't go hard enough on the disney shit
if they actually went full-in on it and dug up some of the extended shit and just went ham with everything it would be a hundred times better
for example if scrooge was actually shown to be half the badass he actually is it would be a vastly different series, but for some reason everything has to take a backseat to nomura's OC's (even the final fantasy shit) and i think the series genuinely suffers from it
if it was its own original thing that would be fine but right now its a dumb mix of original and disney cameos and it does feel stupid as much as i like the series
i honestly wish they kept one of the older concepts of donald being the MC because having a short duck with anger management issues dealing with FF characters sounds a thousand times better
Having played my share of JRPGs for awhile user, that is disingenuous to say the least since most genres follow similar conventions without being the same FFVII is sure as hell nowhere close to Tales of Symphonia is either structure of design, and neither are "the same" to something like Earthbound.
Again, this is just dismissing an entire genre based on stereotypes and cliches
>or blatant corporate dick sucking
Frozen was a shit world in KH 3 because of this.
Except Osaka has no hope in hell of fixing their mess, so by default it's worse than 2's.
>JRPG are nice until you notice how all are pretty much the same plot structure
That is true for absolutely every genre of video game in existence desu.
When JRPGS are done right they are a truly unique experience. I can't think of any game that gave me the same feeling as Earthbound.
I assure you many of us have played this shit too. The first one was the first game I bought for my PS2 way back when.
You mean best girl* and Kairi, there's only two people in that picture.
For a series that has such a batshit premise, it's fucking lame. There's never enough fun interactions between the characters, Disney or OC, because Nomura thinking his "deep and epic lore" deserves more attention than developing the cast people came to love.
I'm not against the Disney stuff in Kingdom Hearts on principle, I just think there should be less of it. Having Disney characters play major roles is fine, Donald and Goofy are still fun characters to be in a party with but I think the original settings and plotlines of KH are good enough to tone down the Disney stuff and focus on that.
They work in japan? God you are stupid
Its such a shame how they constantly miss the opportunity to just full-blown have Square Enix characters in this
>Erdrick's sword as a Keyblade
>Sora when he tries to bring back Kairi at the end of KH3 stumbling upon the cast of Chrono Trigger
>Secret boss fight with Raziel from Legacy of Kain
>Slime from Dragon Quest, Pocky and Rocky and Musashi as summons
Not to mention Disney side:
>Star-Lord from GotG being hired by Tifa and/or Aerith to find Cloud's whereabouts; he mistakes him for Sora and secret boss fight happens
>Everything Star Wars
>Disney worst part
No. It's the series going from a magical fantasy adventure game featuring an engaging original plot and beloved childhood characters in one game to 2deep4u shounenshit-lite being vomited into your face with Disney IPs poorly shoved in and boring one-note characters constantly being shoved into your face and you being ordered to care about them.
>TFW as of KH3's ending, even if we get niche stuff like Black Cauldron, Atlantis, and Treasure Planet the shitty throwaway characters who should've stayed dead will visit them and have zero chemistry with the Disney characters like with BBS while Sora only goes to worlds based on AAA movies like Zootopia, Moana, Incredibles, Finding Nemo, and Moana.
I don't even want Oswald now seeing Nomura will make him yet another worthless throwaway character who won't go away
Aqua = Larxene > Olette >> Xion >>> Namine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kairi
Let's be honest here, Nomura only puts Hercules in Kingdom Hearts as a Superman stand-in since Disney doesn't own that property.
As much as I like the film Hercules, most of his character doesn't even feel like the one in the film and all the "junior heroes" talk is just straight up Superman shit
>Olette
Forgetting the important thing;
Kairi trying/doing puff-puff towards Sora
What was KH3's best world and why is it ToyBox?
>Woody being canonically stronger than Xehanort through willpower shenanigans
still upset over the reaming of decent FF characters
>Squall lost all character development
>Cloud is an emo for no reason
>Seifer is terrible
>Aeris has no personality and the shittiest voice actor in 2
>Vivi is just a dumb kid and nowhere near as powerful as in IX
Auron is the only good FF character, which shocked me given how they fucked up all the other FFX characters
Maleficent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All those bitches
She's so shit that not even porn artists want her. She's not sexy. She should have stayed dead.
But Nomura with the power of Bad Writing revived her. He also revived characters who should have stayed gone just to please fantards. This is why Kingdom Hearts 3 is my last game.
Yuffie and Tifa were like the only likeable characters out of the FF crew.
Cid was in-character but no one gives a shit about Cid
Its kinda odd how Nomura doesn't take some lessons from the KH manga, I like how FF characters interacted with Sora in it and how Squall was a lot more like FF7 Cloud
I don't care. As of KH3 I'm NEVER playing another Kingdom Hearts game ever again. I hated every fucking second of the ending (Not counting the mid-credits Disney parts.) and Nomura can kiss my ass if he thinks I'm going to buy "Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance 2: Sora and Riku Go To Japan With Yet Another Shitty New Character Who's Going To Be Shoved Into Your Face Whether You Like It Or Not".
I'm going to be playing some good JRPGs like Trails of Cold Steel or Hyperdimension Neptunia.
I like Kairi's design, fuck you
Those are both cats
>ywn have Christopher Reeve Superman and Adam West Batman interacting with Sora, Donald and Goofy
>Sora wakes up in real life Tokyo
>Accidentally ends up in the red light district of Tokyo
>Has to fight a certain yakuza after a big misunderstanding
I really fucking hate how in KH3 the "main" trio aren't allowed to be together ever again because that wouldn't be fair to the shitty handheld characters who should've fucked off after their respective games.
No offense to the dynamic, but I fucking hated that Donald and Goofy were the party members against 'nort instead of Riku and Kairi.
All is right with the world
Sucks to be you, after KH3 I'm more excited for the future than ever
You're both wrong, but both of these properties were handled poorly.
How the hell did Setzer even get his scars in this universe? Did some kids jump him after a Struggle tournament or something?
>MoM is getting away with everything for no reason at all
>Xehanort is going to return as a good guy for no reason at all
>The plot is going to be even more of a convoluted clusterfuck adding more stupid shit and worthless new characters
>Sora is going to continue to get shat on
>Worlds based on niche/lower named movies are going to be wasted on the side-characters or the mobbage game
>Forced live-action remake synergy
>Modern Simpsons
>Family Guy
>Avatar
>Worlds based on Blue Sky Studios' shitty movies
>The plot is going to be even more of a convoluted clusterfuck
Stopped reading here, the convoluted plot is part of why I love it.
You forgot:
>Nomura is gonna add the Verum Rex character/Yozora as "not Noctis" and end up sabotaging his own character to be "Emo kid #3459"
Indeed, at this point I'm just amused at how insane can it still become
you forgot
>Nomura will never let go of ff13 versus
I really have to agree, after Kingdom Hearts 1 the whole Disney narrative felt forced. They really need to start actually incoporating the Disney characters in the story again instead of just making watered down scripts of the movies that don't play a part in the overall scheme of things.
A convoluted plot doesn't mean shit if the characters suck. I don't give a single fuck about Xenahort, the furrytellers, or that world-lines shit. I can find some enjoyment out of a "2deep4u" story if they offer some entertaining moments within the cast, the Zero Escape VNs are good example of that.
Kh3 was such a tease because they sprinkled in some fun stuff between the organization and disney, but most of it is still "cloaked men showing up to call you a poopyhead and leaving". Days had the best character interactions yet it still spends most of it's time with those boring clock tower scenes.
>child soldiers were tricked into starting a war
>children have to restart society
>turns out they're not even in the real world
>they escape only to end up in Game Central Station
I hope Nomura gets to conclude his wild ride, I'm fully on board.
That's cool man, fortunately I do. I'll buy two copies of the next game like I did KH3 to make up for you
The least awful was probably Caribbean because it actually had some fun exploration, even if there was nothing to find but ethers and potions.
>She's not sexy
You're just gay.
PotC no question
>that time Sully rekt maximum edgelord Vanitas through the power of UNLIMITED DOORS WITHIN DOORS
>Worlds based on Blue Sky Studios' shitty movies
Eat dick, I'd pay good money for a level that takes place on food island or inside the mutated FLDSMDFR
>*Sully unleashes「Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap」on Vanitas
>>Sora is going to continue to get shat on
This right here is why I stopped liking Kingdom Hearts. Nomura decided to make Sora a hopelessly stupid character who simply is incapable of any mental maturity or learning from his mistakes.
The end result is this, if this is the main lead? Why would I want to play this series anymore? The central hero is terribly unbearable. And Nomura confirmed Sora will always be the main lead. In a continuous story where the main lead is the worst part of it? No thanks I'm done.
And sadly Sora never started this terribly. Nomura changed him in Kingdom Hearts 2 and from there he went from bad to worse.
I mean to be fair how many times has Sora got fucked up in the head / got smashed in the face with a canon "START OVER FROM LEVEL 1!" stick?
Hell he even throws shade at it himself.
Regardless of excuse, the end result is still Sora is a dumb unappealing character. Though to be fair my hatred is aimed at Nomura the hack.
As long as they give me more TWEWY im all set
You didn't play the final remix did you?
nope. Only ds version. Althoe i know square hates twewy fans at ths point.
What happened in Final Mix?
meant for
That's a Sony movie
>Having one of your central villains you're supposed to view as a legitimate threat being beaten in a comical way is somehow a good thing.
The Woody scene is still alright though
I always get that shit mixed in with Rio for some reason. Whatever, we get this masterpiece anyway.
Do you like TWEWY? Because if so then you don't want to know, ignorance is most definitely bliss in this case.
>Complete filler
I wouldn't mind some other kind of "fill her", if you know what I mean.
Literally no one sees vanities as an actual threat he's the definition of deviant art edge complete by being a "dark version" of the main character.
I don't mind knowing.
>Did some kids jump him after a Struggle tournament or something?
Don't underestimate the danger of back alley Struggles.
KH killed itself with Birth By Sleep. Putting the command deck garbage aside why would you waste some of the most iconic Disney animated films on a fucking handheld title not even featuring the main characters of the series?
>Did some kids jump him after a Struggle tournament or something?
Yes.
If you're sure. The plot of A New Day is Neku and Beat being sucked into a huge noise where a fake Shibuya exists by the loli reaper from the mobile game. When Hanekoma tries to get them out a replay of the scene where Neku dies happens again but Sho is replaced with the loli but she succeeds in killing Neku to drag him into another game, then resurrects Sho to be his partner. All throughout you get random scenes of hype chan wandering around a destroyed Shinjuku that amount to nothing but sequel bait, same as ever.
That doesn't fucking matter, in the context in the actual story he's supposed to be a threat.
Nomura being an incompetent hack when writing characters doesn't change that and frankly just shows how little he gives a fuck
>terra aqua and ven
>not main characters
You realize KH has like 20 main characters right?
Psst 1/2
Psst 2/2
Ask me if I give a fuck, I'm sick to death of Nomura's horseshit sequel baiting and unsatisfying endings. He's going to have to personally come to my house and suck my dick if he ever hopes to get a sale from me ever again.
This is exactly the reaction I wanted, thanks user
>those Sora giving it to Nicki from the back drawings
Based.
Well shit.
>Make game all about Light vs DARKNESS
>Have no Cecil Harvey, Garland, Leon, Xande or any of the FF characters that actually struggled with Darkness or had Darkness as a relevant part of their games.
What's even the point?
KH3 really hammered how arbitrary the Disney shit was. It was literally only there so Sora could grind. The Organization shit that happened there was completely inconsequential. Their goal was completed no matter what they did, their other evil plots was just them being dicks. It all served to have Sora think about Disney couples and how that's literally him and Kairi... only THEY DON'T FUCKING TALK TO EACH OTHER
Dragon Quest is bursting with personality, Horii's writing is a huge part of the series' appeal. You like Chrono Trigger you'll like DQ.
Speaking of characters that should be in KH...
By its nature the franchise appeal to kids who are still young enough to enjoy Disney movies but just old enough to fall really hard for edgy anime bullshit. KH hits that stylistic and tonal aesthetic dead on. The result is people who loved this shit as kids cringing super hard as adults and being angry that they're still somewhat invested in this stupid shit even when they're now aware enough to be completely embarrassed by it.
No the worst part is having important plot shit on crap no one wants to waste their time on like concerts and card games
I love kh. Kh3 didnt have drive forms. Like seriously What the fuck.
The Disney aspect was terrible in 2 and 3. However it was also a big part of what made the original great.
And that's the problem; Allegedly only one matters but Nomura is constantly shoving more and more into your face and demanding you give a shit about each of them regardless of how uneeded or one-note they are. Worse is that as of KH3's ending they're now permanent members of the cast who won't go away ever again.
Seriously just compare this cover to KH1's.
I love it, especially since I couldn't give a rats fucking ass about Sora and Kairi
KH1’s was Kino
KH2 should've been the last game in the series with the ending being one of those "you decide what happens next" endings.
>It all served to have Sora think about Disney couples and how that's literally him and Kairi
And that's an awful couple. Kairi should have stayed dead.
3 is just an endless cavalcade of bad decisions.
>Because these days Disney has become an easy company to hate.
Do tell. What are the reasons to hate Disney?
Wasted quads
>Good but needs improvement.
The pacing in vanilla 2 wasn't nearly as bad. A plot centric world in the middle of the game was important.
The fanbase grew up while the actual product didn't.
No, everything after 2 should have just been written better and not relegated to a shitty team and put on shitty handhelds.
i should've known KH3 would be shit when i heard that rinky-dink theme. i know it's impossible to climb to the level of Simple and Clean and Sanctuary but Jesus they didn't even try.
Nomura literally admitted that if he didn't have as large of a hand in the game's development or character designs he felt uncomfortable using them. Then he did Dissidia designs for all of them anyway.
More like the actual product tried to grow up but failed miserably.
Turning the series into Squenix and Disney's own Naruto was a terrible idea.
>main trio
Sora, Donald, Goofy is more of a main trio than Sora Riku and Kairi.
Because Kairi is fucking useless.
They had an "antiform" its not really a form but it kinda is. They just couldve made dual wielding a thing if they were going to rid drive forms all together. But still kh2 is great because of all the fucking drive forms. Main reason why I said fuck it and am just maining the kingdom key.
I don't know man. Grown ups can totally rewatch Digimon Tamers despite it being for kids. Kingdom Hearts? The problem is if we're honest Disney being way out of their element because Disney characters do not work in anime stories and anime concepts. The other issue is Nomura being abysmal at storytelling. I swear Nomura is not just wrecking Kingdom Hearts, he's also on his way to ruining FF7 Remake (you did see those magical cloaked figures Nomura invented for the remake? They didn't exist in the original game those Watchmen of Fate).
>I mean to be fair how many times has Sora got fucked up in the head / got smashed in the face with a canon "START OVER FROM LEVEL 1!" stick?
3 makes it offensively bad though.
>Sora you need to start over from level 1 again
>First stage has him fight all of the titans at once and fucking flying.
>Sora you're still just a kid you haven't mastered this plot coupon power
>Sora spends the entire game bumbling around until it's time for the plot to finally start
>Oops Sora guess you had the power all along!
This
No though I will admit that KH2's ending was pretty great. Awesome climax with Sora and his bro kicking ass, everyone finally making it home, and that final part as Sanctuary (best theme) plays
>We're...we're back!
>You're home.
Felt so good
>Its such a shame how they constantly miss the opportunity to just full-blown have Square Enix characters in this
No offense, but even as a Kingdom Hearts fan? I don't want to see anymore bastardizations of these characters. They need to be toned down for Disney's sake and frankly even in other SE exclusive games like World of Final Fantasy the FF characters were bastardized anyway yet again.
No. There is no satisfaction in a cameo if the characters no longer resemble who they are which is what made them popular. So no. I'm honestly glad that Kingdom Hearts 3 dropped FF cameos and I hope they stay gone. I don't like to see other characters smeared for ANY reason.
>Oops Sora guess you had the power all along!
Don't forget that scene comes AFTER Sora says "fuck it" to Yen Sid's bullshit and styles on Riku, Mickey, and Darkqua without said power.
KH3 is severely lacking in keyblades. Defenders kept arguing it's because each one had a special drive now but half of them are copies of the other half.
I'd much rather we'd have gotten story based ones like we used to.
Yeah a lot of 3 was filler which was lame though I still enjoyed 3 a lot. Still looking forward to more of the crazy ride
>tfw best boy is finally going to be important
The FF characters kept the game from being filler. Hollow Bastion in 2 as where you went to see FF characters and have the plot move forward.
As a result KH3's lack of FF characters is symptomatic of its "80% of this is filler" problem.
>Because Kairi is fucking useless.
Kairi has other issues like being a complete cunt to Riku. Idiots always say that she's a friend of Sora and Riku, but she never shows inherent interest in Riku not unless she's blatantly forced into a situation where she needs to acknowledge Riku (like Selphie talking about Riku in the intro of KH2). To Kairi Riku may as well be a true "Nobody" if you get what I mean. He's a ghost to the girl. Even when this guy protects her so much.....she just doesn't care and I just feel she's a complete pile of shit cunt because of it. Ungrateful to boot because if this dismissive way is how she treats a childhood friend then why should Riku care about her. Remember when every character got wiped out? Kairi only preserved Sora. Not even Riku was given a chance to save his own life from that situation.
Kairi is just shit and no one's friend. She only cares about Sora. Though to be fair now, Kairi showed more concern for Lea than Riku (she threw her body at him to protect him from the Heartless Wave). Talk about a cunt to Riku.
Cunt should have stayed dead. And I have no interest in playing as this uninteresting and unlikable character. If Kairi gets a game I'm skipping it and the idea of wasting any Disney worlds on Kairi sounds very crappy. Kairi should have stayed dead.
and there's practically no content besides the main game, either. there's only one secret boss, and the only minigame that really matters is the Flan. not even any tournaments.
But at what cost?
God I forgot about that.
The game effectively tells you "you could've done this 30 hours ago but it was more important to reenact Frozen"
But phone game shilling though! Doesn't that make up for it?
Isn't Re:MIND adding a fuck ton of secret and super bosses on top of a token "ultra boss from the next part that kicks your shit in"?
At the very least they implied something like Data Org 2 Electric Boogaloo Now With More Xehanort
Jesus could you imagine Tidus in Kingdom Hearts?
Yen Sid also never tells Sora about any of the risks involving that power (and hell Yen Sid didn't even tell Riku about the risks either despite also earning it). Shit teacher and frankly shit writing.
Soon
Allegedly, but I'll believe it when I see it. After 3 I'm never holding my breath for anything Square puts out ever again.
He's already in it. He's one of the kids you can fight on Destiny Islands
Square Enix should make a Star Wars game.
user... literally the first game.
I just hope they add a BIG DICK MODE of the XIII. Each having their own unique health bar rather than shared.
Re:MIND is adding Oathkeeper.
Think about that. One of the signature series keyblades, that's the symbol of the relationship between two of the core characters, and it's not in the base game.
Oh shit you're right. I was thinking of adult Tidus and actually being more involved in the story rather than just a random kid you beat up.
I cannot believe I've seen people defend that as good writing. It was a literal eleventh hour asspull to have fucking Young Xehanort come in and say that the power of waking had consequences AFTER YOU'D ALREADY OVERUSED IT.
Watch Oblivion not be added either.
As if anyone gives a shit about Kairi. Black haired and blonde Kairi are more popular
>endless cycles of light vs darkness
At this point noting they can do will unburn the bridges they burnt, so the only people it's for are those who werne't burnt.
Remember how Xemnas unlocked their keyblade powers and then they not only didn't use keyblades, but were the easiest versions of those bosses even discounting the shared life bar? Good times.
How would user fix KH3's story?
Let's talk about Blonde Kairi then.
Am I the only one annoyed how they made her star the missable one, but the sequel hook phone game tie in one is the one required for progression?
>Xemnas unlocked their keyblade powers
He didn't, he just said they had a slumbering history laying dormant inside them and they all gave puzzled looks while Nomura plastered PLAY MY MOBAGE YOU FUCKING WHALES on the screen.
This is so true. I mean from a story perspective, the villain has NO obligation to help the hero. Especially a complete cunt like Young Xehanort who prides himself in being unlikable. What does it say about the writing that the villain is the only one who spoke the truth about this part of the story? That the writing is trash and because the writing is terrible one of the good guys looks to be evil/immoral. Up there with other situations like Mickey Mouse completely forgot that he abandoned Aqua in the dark realm.
This is exactly why Kingdom Hearts 3 is my final game. I just cannot tolerate the Bad Writing anymore. I'm sick and tired of it. This series in my mind ended in Kingdom Hearts 2. And as far as future KH projects? I wish them complete failure. A series so blatantly badly written doesn't deserve success.
Neither are required, they're both optional cutscenes. You only need to collect the Soras to move on.
>Nomura is still dragging out "thank Namine" and straight up admitted he's going to continue doing so because fuck you
>We totally owned you lamers
Is there a more perfect time capsule of the early 2000s than Kingdom Hearts 2?
>be Xehanort in Terra’s body
>the Xehanort everyone knew from the portrait before KH2 ending showed before KH2FM+ secret movie showed old man Xehanort
>BBS was all about Xehanort wanting that body over his “old and brittle vessel” and grooming Terra this be his new body
>Ansem is your Heartless, Xemnas is your Nobody
>barely relevant in KH3 with only a cutscene with you fighting everybody and then brief vs Lingering Will cutscene
>then taken out like any other unimportant ORG13 member
>Old man thought it'd be better to fight everyone in his "old and brittle vessel" than a body young, healthy and fit as Terra's
>for some reason wearing Terra’s BBS clothes and not some lab coat
>pic related unhooded in an ORG13 cloak never happens in-game besides gallery
Why?
He says it's time for them to reawaken their powers, then gives them a vine enema that's supposed to give them a power up. The implication was pretty clear.
i wish Mr Plinkett played video games
Sora can use drive forms. I dont care about the rest
>Neither are required, they're both optional cutscenes.
Are they? The phone game star is right next to the "move onto the next scene" button so I thought it was mandatory.
My point still kinda stands though. It's fucked up that that's the one they prioritized,
But Mike is too stupid to understand films Alex Joens can. How can he even pick up a controller?
I still have this made and looking to perfect it.
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The simplest way however is just to break the story into 3 acts, which the three gummi maps are perfect for and it baffles me that they didn't. Act 1, Sora gets the power of waking, Riku and Mickey save Aqua, Kairi and Lea finish training. Act 2 starts with SDG and Aqua saving Ven, then have Xion set up when Sora and Kairi head to Radiant Garden to save Roxas and Namine. Act 3 is a Disney training montage to ready for the war and save Xion and Terra, who is the big bad instead of old man Nort like it always should have been.
>Oh fuck, back pains.
>I knew I stole Terra's body for a reason.
>Why the fuck did I have to fight with a body that's from dying of old age?
>I had loads of healthy bodies, including Terra's and my younger self's body.
>Even if I won, I would have died of old age a few hours later.
>Sora, can you help fetch me my medicine? I believe I forgot to take it this morning.
>How did Eraqus manage to look so young when we're the same age?
>I miss being Spock.
They needed to space the actual plot around more. Rescue Aqua early on since there's literally nothing actually keeping us form doing so.
You're mixing the cutscenes. He does nothing in the one with them on the rock pillars, in the Graveyard boss fight he's a mute that gives only Luxord a power boost and fucks off.
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But she has to turn evil for five minutes so we can have that shocking E3 trailer shot!
It's a good thing Nomura knew it was trash and had her do the kino ending theme too
I'm pretty sure it's at the far end of the little circle you're constrained to, closest to where the sun is in the sky box, Namine's star is actually between the two things.
Honestly, so much of the game was designed for nothing more than trailer bait and it sickens me. You give me one good reason Aqua couldn't have kept a minor taint of darkness to give her even a slightly interesting character.
Why is pic related better than the final boss?
>I miss being Spock.
God that's the worst part. They had a perfect reason to not have to recast him and yet they did.
He didn't, play DDD again
Needs some improvements
>You're mixing the cutscenes. He does nothing in the one with them on the rock pillars, in the Graveyard boss fight he's a mute that gives only Luxord a power boost and fucks off.
Luxord is one of the former keyblade wielders is he not?
For once, you're completely right Boco
His identity hasn't been revealed
>Why the fuck did I have to fight with a body that's from dying of old age?
>I had loads of healthy bodies, including Terra's and my younger self's body.
Yes but that power boost he gives him isn't supposed to somehow awaken his memories, Xemnas doesn't have anything close to resembling that power.
Phone game didn't release that update yet?
>button mashan games
>amazing
>World of Chaos
again
NO! NONONONONONONONO! NEVER AGAIN!
>KH4
>You cannot hide from what you once were, Sora! Recognize that you were once the Master of Masters—and know that I, Luxu, have taken your place!
Based on the trailer that's probably going to be revealed in Remind
because the final battle throws so much shit at you out of nowhere that it completely overshadows any gravitas the confrontation might have.
here, you have two villains you actually have a real reason to hate, and have a history of hating.
the final fight really should've been ASOD, Xehanort, and Terranort together, with the "final stage" being Master Xehanort as a basically defenseless old man you just beat pretty much effortlessly.
Explain. Because what I saw in 3 was Sora using the power of waking to save everyone who died, then in San Fransokyo Young Nort comes in and says "lol faggot, you just killed yourself by overusing the power of waking". And then Sora uses it one more time to save Kairi and gets snapped.
Thematically, it's three different versions of Xehanort in his prime, who were all final bosses (or close enough) and two of whom were secret bosses.
If Square Enix bought all Original Characters from Disney and continued the series without Disney, would you still buy Kingdom Hearts?
>BROTHER
>IT'S BEEN TOO LONG
>REJOICE, BROTHER
>WE'RE NOT CLONES OF OUR MASTER, AFTER ALL
>here, you have two villains you actually have a real reason to hate, and have a history of hating.
And then you're told to forgive them in order to prepare for Xehanort getting a happy ending.
Why was Terranort so irrelevant in KH3? He didn't even show up in pic related
>Worse is that as of KH3's ending they're now permanent members of the cast who won't go away ever again.
Truly the most horrible part.
well, to be fair you're not told to forgive them. they did their shit and were punished for it.
but Sir Mixalot key'd Kairi like it was nothing, and THAT you're supposed to just forgive.
>4 Norts and the edgy nephew that makes us bring him everywhere
He stands out so fucking much it's retarded, even Darku would have been a better selection.
mostly to milk the hype of having characters from 7, 8, & 10
I'm really sad that more 9 characters never got representation. I'd love to see Sora team up with Zidane or fight Kuja (although Kuja probably needs to be covered up a bit more to keep the kid-friendly rating)
>"You must leave, without your memories as MoM."
>Xehanort shows up
>"I thought you had died in the Keyblade Wars."
>"Died? No. Became stronger? Yes!"
>"Is this your new Master, Sora? If so then you follow your old path. His teachings will cause you to fall as surely as you once did."
>"The Master of Masters knew the power of such places… and the power in making them. They can be used to break the will of others... of Keyblade Wielders, promising them power, and turning them to the Darkness. Did you never wonder how MoM corrupted so many of the Keybalde wielders, so much of the Scala ad Caelum, so quickly? The Keyblade Wars were a series of massacres that masked another war, a war of conversion. Culminating a final atrocity that no Keyblade wielder could walk away from… save one. And that is what I sought to understand. How one could turn away from such power, give up the Keyblade... and still live. Especially that of the Master of Masters himself. But I see what happened now. It is because you were afraid, Sora. As you would pass judgment on the boy, I have come to pass judgment on you all. Do you wish to feel the teachings born of the Keyblade Wars? Of all wars, of all tragedies that scream across the worlds? Let me show you Foretellers, who have forever seen the worlds through the Book of Prophecies. See it through the eyes of Sora."
>*Xehanort memory-wipes the Foretellers*
This is the man who WILL revive Aerith in FF7 Remake to make fantards happy. And don't say it cannot happen. FF15 had an alternate ending so Noctis doesn't die (the Ignis DLC).
Maybe. The novelty of the "crossover" has long since worn off especially since they don't do anything interesting with the concept now, and Yen Sid and Mickey exist as vague exposition machines
Often contributing nothing of real substance.
Plus its not like Disney ever makes full use of the franchise either. Sora has only ever fucking appeared in the Disney parks ONCE, and the suit is one of the most misguided fucking creations they've ever done.
Tarzan wears less than Kuja.
yeah but it didn't have a version where you pump Gladdy's sister.
FFVX wasn't made by Nomura though.
Not to say that it's impossible for him to do that.
Tarzan's outfit is almost an inverse of Kuja's
parents would probably question buying a game where one character's in a thong
KH3 data rematch when?
What do you think those watchmen of fate are for? There's obviously going to be two story routes, one where Aeris dies and the game continues like the original and then one where she doesn't. Becuase it's a remake and goddamn it if we aren't going to use the same gimmick as every other fucking remake on the goddamn planet. Also
>FF15 had an alternate ending so Noctis doesn't die (the Ignis DLC).
That's all on Tabata, bud. Nomura was long gone from the project by then.
dlc in december
normura didnt make 9s characters which is why only vivi showed up
Reminder that the Cum Guardian is the real Terra, and that the "Terra" on the left is Xehanort, evident by the Keyblade. Aqua was helping Xehanort all along.
he was also saying it in toy box how he saw what was in store for sora
That is way too vague to mean anything of substance.
it implies its something bad. and im guessing he knew because MoM told him
Remember kids it's a-okay to commit countless acts of genocide and murder as long as you surrender.
While thematically it would have been nice, like how Demon's Souls ending goes, you'd have people bitching about how "weak" the final boss is.
goddammit, Nomura
you're already using disney characters, who cares if you use the FF characters you didn't make
Why did Ansem never use this again?
This isn't Steven Universe or Naruto. Sora doesn't care. He prefers killing villains whenever he can. If anything Sora has more in common with Mao Mao. A hero who is not afraid to kill.
That's great, but it tells neither Sora nor us anything of value, especially not regarding the power of waking and it's consequences.
Shitter
>This isn't Steven Universe or Naruto.
Correction. It wasn't.
I should've known something was wrong when Nomura preemptively said "guys I worked really hard on the ending please be nice"
he does. he doesnt want to ruin them.
no one ever said it was ok but sora had a long day of carrying everyone's asses and wanted to get going to save his girl
xehanort wasnt redeemed he just gave up and accepted that even with ultimate power he still lost to friendship. that left some serious hurt
>he doesnt want to ruin them.
But he's totally okay with ruining the others? How about he just not ruin any and just write better?
This is your new Sith Lord.
Right. So that makes it all the worse for Xehanort to basically get away with everything with no worse a punishment than "huh guess I lost, oh well time to fuck off to heaven with the best friend I fucking murdered"
he made the others so hes fine with it. but he doesnt want to mess up others charaters
>that left some serious hurt
Did it? Because he seemed pretty happy to be going to have some gay shota sex with Eraqus.
See He still wasn't punished for his crimes, nobody even seemed like they resented him for it
Why does he have to ruin any is my question? Why not just write them like they should be written from their original appearances?
And even then Xehaprick didn't bother to tell him how to save her as he happily disappeared to the afterlife with his buttbuddy as teens.
I refuse to give Nomura my money ever again (Except when I got World Ends With You Switch version.) and am skipping that already shitty looking FFVII remake.
I mean he still died, all thats left it to give up and rejoin kingdom hearts
do you know what would have happened if he didnt give up? he would have stuck around in the final world. and came back the same way sora did
>and came back the same way sora did
He didn't have a princess of heart to keep him formed, he'd have been trapped forever as a heart stuck in an endless void.
if anyone could find a way out it would be the dude who is a walking time portal
so who is dr. lou gonna be player or MoM?
He'd literally be stuck reliving his regrets in his head until the end of time like all the other stars.
>Toy Story is a series that should've ended at it's third installment like KH (Counting COM as the second game.) as this year's new installment shows.
>Frozen had a bunch of potential that got squandered in the final act like with KH3 (Though it didn't completely ruin it like KH3's final act.)
>Big Hero 6 could've spent more time focusing on the other members besides Hiro and Baymax, though at least they're fun and enduring unlike KH3's supporting OC cast that should've continued fucking off
>The Pirates movies got weaker as the series went on like with KH
It's ironic how the flaws of the movies certain worlds are based on ended up rubbing onto KH3, though that's more due to Nomura having his head up his ass.
The last one you defeat should have whipped out a powered-upped form.
the other stars arent time portals like xehanort.
He doesn't have a heart or body any more, he's just a star soul.
At World's End is also well known for being convoluted and contradictory as fuck, so KH3 gutting the movie so drastically just comes off as Nomura not wanting his bullshit to compete with Verbinski's bullshit.
Basically, yeah.
Young Xehanort becomes his BBS form with the bullshit toned down, Xenmas gets his zebra outfit, and Ansem gets shirtless and whips out
>At World's End is also well known for being convoluted and contradictory as fuck
How so? I never got that from the movie.
Does KH3 old xehanort return to his old time because time travel?
No, basically what happened is that when Ansem and Xemnas reformed into Terranort Xehanort came back instead and left Terra's body a lifeless husk because he kept his heart as the cum guardian. The Terranort in 3 is actually the one from just before fighting Lingering Will the first time in BBS which is why he doesn't recognize him, he gets sent back in time when cum guardian Terra takes his body back.
The wheel of betrayals and the confusing rules over how becoming the Dutchman's captain works resulted in the DVD having to come with an FAQ in the box to explain what the fuck just happened and even then, the director and writers and the DVD insert had different interpretations of the mid-credits scene with the former saying Will was free to go after his first ten years while the latter went with him still being stuck so we could get a fifth movie to waste "Will having to cope with being the Dutchman's captain" on a two minute cameo role.
no when ansem and xemnas were destroyed terranort was restored to factory reset aka terra and xehanort
>The wheel of betrayals
I don't get it, nearly every "betrayal" is lined with a wink at the camera.
>confusing rules over how becoming the Dutchman's captain works
... you kill the old one and you become the new one, what's confusing about it?
Have you been reading reviews from the mentally disabled? I was like 14 when this movie came out and understood it just fine.
>Mickey and Oswald are playing backgammon or some normal human shit
>Sora or Xehanort or whoever shows up
>"Mickey! You have united with your keyblade brother! With your combined tsundere, you can hikkomori the dokidoki!"
>Oswald flips the table
>"NOPE NOPE NOPE. I'm not getting into Smash by being in a Square-Enix game. Get out of here and don't come back until you have a cute side-scroller I can rubber-hose my way through."
>The entire kingdom hearts kingdom loses all its unagi and Max Headroom gets deleted or whatever the fuck those guys are trying to prevent.
>Nothing of value was lost
Sucks Oswald can't be in a KH game without Nomura poorly shoehorning him into the main narrative.
>Disney owns Star Wars
>KH might eventually have Star Wars worlds
Funny thing, I incorporated Ortensia into my KH fanfic.
EA has the SW vidya license, so KH can't touch it unless Nomura comes into contact with EA first
The only way I'd accept worlds being wasted on the side characters is if Kairi or Aqua go to the Jungle Book world and get hypnotized/molested by the snake.
The worst part of Kingdom Hearts is Kingdom Hearts. It has no positive aspects and its fans are literal Deviantart manchildren, because its plot is literal Deviantart fanfiction. You're no better than the Mouseketeers that slurp up every bit of Marvel and Star Wars flavored dribble the vermin shits out.
He needs one emo character. Neku got over his emo phase, Riku got over his emo phase. Both character developments were pretty kino but I'm sure Verum Rex will always be emo, like they do now with Cloud
How about Kaa successfully eats them both? He needs to eat and he may as well feast on disposable worthless girls.
I know star wars would open up too big of an envelope for the KH series, and I'm not even the biggest fan of starwars, but a Darth Vader secret boss would have been perfection. EA crushes dream again
Well if you're willing to pay gumroad.com
Gotta disagree. I love the original shit more than the disney shit now, but KH is defined by its disney content. Its really fun to run around disney worlds to me, I just hope that KH isn't someday forced to make live-action remake worlds.
KH3's biggest mistake to me was its lack of a middle act, that was done best in KH2 and usually involves returning to the first original world you go to. 100 acre woods didn't work because they hardly did anything that thickens the plot
>100 acre woods didn't work because they hardly did anything that thickens the plot
They hardly did anything at all.
.
KH2’s Disney worlds didn’t really seem connected to the plot either though. Or at least, not when compared to KH1
>go camping with friends
>one of them has invited another person I don't know
>ask them what their favorite KH game is.
>they say KH3
>show them a wealth of info showcasing the flaws of KH3 including its lackluster boss fights and broken game system
>they say it's fun to them and that's all that matters
>that night, a bear comes to the tent. All of us manage to get away, but the KH3 coper
>the bear savagely attacks him
>as he begs for help, I pull out my shotgun.
>say I'll help if he admits KH3 is a flawed rushed mess of a game
>he says that he can't. Arendelle was his favorite world in a kh game ever.
>says DLC will fix KH3
>understand he is too far gone
>know that he is better off dead
>friends and I watch as the bear eats him alive.
Who else glad to be /enlightened/ and not delusional enough to think DLC can save a broken game? The damage scaling in KH3 needs a complete reworking.
>Objectifying a 14 year old little girl
Pedo asshole
>In Kingdom Hearts 4 Sora will have to wonder why Woody is no longer with Andy or any kid at all
Olette really is best girl
>finally get another KH thread
>its worthless bait
I'm just so tired
Well it's something.
Nice point blank trolling.
Is he canon?
Apparently. All secret bosses are canon characters, but their fight isn't necessarily canon. The only exceptions are Lingering Will, and YMX.
Also Sephiroth in KH1 as evidence by the trophy (but then the cutscenes in 2 imply it's not canon)
This. Even going back to play it now, it still gives you that sense of childlike wonder and discovery.
It's because YOU were nostalgic for the Disney Renaissance. These are the films you like. Once Kingdom Hearts doesn't use quality films you're also nostalgic for? The appeal is gone.
>He thinks KH's plot is convoluted
Casual detected.
Can we all agree that Disney Doomguy was the absolute best part of the series and stole any scene he was in?
Meow-wow was the best part of KH3
If you could have a Non-Disney world what would you choose? Mario Bros is basic, but just too iconic. Can't ignore that.
Literally KH 3 suffered because there were no FF characters to balance everything out
I think you guys forget he'd been training to use the power since DDD. It's closer to Yensid going "you don't have a license I don't even know if you remember the lesson on parallel parking" then Sora just trying to drive and miraculously being able to parallel park and then do doughnuts.
Broke: Marvel
Woke: Bionicle
He was indeed best boy but the fact that after he showed up to save everyone's asses the game forgot to show what the fuck happened with him and he just fell off the face of the earth was total bullshit.
I need to know what's in the box!? Is it naked pics of Ava?
She could for all we know still carry some taint, it's just by the time your eyes start changing colour you've fallen completely it's sort of like the Sith.
If we're talking Nintendo, then Kirby.
All the heart imagery would fit right in and the Dark Matter are pretty close to Heartless.
BBS not featuring Sora and Riku is the main reason I picked that game back in 2010. Also I enjoyed the deck/melting system way more than just assigning and smashing buttons.
I hope the dlc adds a segment where you play him and fuck up Terranort from the inside explaining the events that occur after with him
Nah, it's not Disney, it's the over-complicated plot mostly affecting the characters made for the series.
So, you know the bad guy from the first game, Ansem? He was actually the Heartless of the real Ansem's apprentice, Xehanort. Except that Xehanort was the result of the actual Xehanort, (an old man,) stealing the body of this guy named Terra. And one of Terra's friends, Ventus, err... had the darkness in his heart taken out of him by the original Xehanort, so Ventus' incomplete, pure-light heart went inside Sora to heal, but this caused the darkness that was taken out of Ventus' heart to create a person named Vanitas who looks like Sora, but then Ventus and Vanitas fought and merged and somehow this meant Ventus' heart needed to be inside Sora again which is why Sora's Nobody, Roxas, looks exactly like Ventus and has a heart because when Sora's heart became a Heartless and his body became a Nobody, it left Ventus' heart inside his Nobody because Sora's body was hosting two hearts beforehand and only one of them needed to become a Heartless. And, oh yeah, a Heartless is a creature your heart literally turns into, and the body that heart leaves behind is what becomes a Nobody, which is probably why Xemnas, being the Nobody of the combination of Xehanort's heart and Terra's body, remembers Terra's memories in the Chamber of Awakening because he was solely formed from Terra's body, and...
Arrg!!!
Don't forget how this was all foreseen and factors into the plan of MoM hundreds or thousands of years before the series begins with BBS
>KH3 really hammered how arbitrary the Disney shit was
It was already the case with 2, but most Khfags couldn't see it back then and now it's "muh nostalgia". KH3 just embraced the madness. 3 did make me wonders if I wasn't playing some kind of technical demo that SE made to show Disney what they could do for them.
Yes.
best post in this thread. KH has a lot in common with shounen with the way those are made, written and whom they target.
It's not. Yen Sid says point blank "Sora, because you got a little darked by Xehanort you not only didn't learn the power of waking but you lost all your other power too" and then Sora proceeds to style on four fucking titans in a row.
I know it will never happen but I hope they bring back Disney characters going outside their own world, or maybe another council of villains like in the original as long as it's not just a bunch of shitty villains like Hans
Speaking of that I laughed at how they did Hans in the Frozen world because of how stupid it was in the most KH way possible
>Goofy: "Gawrsh, it looks like that feller over there is carrying Elsa to safety!"
>*darkness visibly emits from hans for no reason*
>Goofy: "Oh no, DARKNESS! We gotta save Elsa!"
Fun fact: As of 3 permanently ruining the franchise beyond repair, I'd love to have worlds based on this and Chicken Little in a future game seeing the series is so fucked up may as well fuck it up even more.
>Objectifying
Where? You go ahead and point out where I claimed that her appearance was her only value as a human being.
>there will never be a stand alone crossover disney rpg
Don't respond to him, he's been shitting up /khg/ for months. His goal is to make sure everyone hates KH as much as he does and wants to ruin any discussion. FFS he calls Xion a tranny
>he calls Xion a tranny
I mean...
>KH1 boxart
>Sora in the middle of the moon signifying himself as the main character bracing himself for whatever adventure and hardships he's going to endure with a looking of sheer determination. We also are able to get a good idea on the supporting cast and their personalities (Riku looking brooding and mysterious, notice his sword resembling a demon's wing to signify his character and Kairi looking outwards with an expression off innocence, while Donald and Goofy comically look on) Notice the lighting also highlighting the first game's overall feel.
>KH3
>A bunch of bored-looking characters splattered around the cover when only one matters (Even worse is that most of them don't even appear until the final act. Namine doesn't even appear until the final cutscene.). Just about none of their poses symbolize their personalities. Also notice the generic colored lighting.
Disney shit has been arbitrary since the end of KH1. That was the only game they sort of mattered
>being this ignorant on how transsexuality works
Go cry on tumblr about it.
>you're already using disney characters, who cares if you use the FF characters you didn't make
>he does. he doesnt want to ruin them.
Remember you're talking about the guy that introduced a Noctis clone into KH3 and then has the disney characters mark out over him, all because he didn't get to make VS XIII his way.
It's got fuck all to do with not wanting to ruin someone else's characters and everything to do with his own goddamn ego.
That world smacked the hardest of executive meddling and Hans is yet another part of that.
>secret fight against deadpool where he fucks with the games mechanics to the point where he makes his own continue screen which can set the fight back a few bars of hp
>secret fight against thanos where each phase adds a stone into the mix until the final phase is a desperate struggle to finish him off and prevent him from snapping
It's been speculated that the reason for the Frozen world feeling so of, is because the team from square saw the initial version of Frozen, when Elsa was still the antagonist, and Hans didn't exist, and started developing the world with that in mind.
Then Frozen was changed drastically after that, and they sort of had to do a mad scramble to make things fit with the released version, instead of the old one.
Not sure how much of that is true though, besides Square seeing the initial test version of the movie.
Too bad most of the good Disney villains who aren't from movies the company hates or that Nomura is too stupid to use have already appeared and been fought.
What do you expect from a world based on Disney's super special snowflake (Ba-dum-dish) at the moment? Fuck the the ice golem that was barely in the movie ws the party member because Disney didn't want one of their most marketable characters getting injured in anyway (Ironically, I felt more hype having Marshmallow as a party member then any forgettable OC that should've stayed dead in the final act. Wish I was able to perform the limit with him against the wolf thing.).
>implying I don't think trannies are mentally ill
Tumblr would eat me alive
It's partly that, but it's also partly because the frozen team have fucking Icarus tier hubris and didn't want the game spoiling the plot of their five year old movie. That's why Hans is just a background cameo and the game goes out of it's way to keep SDG as far away from the plot as possible while Elsa sings the entirety of LET IT GO off in the distance.
Yeah you can feel Disney meddling in Frozen world
Though didn't Nomura say Toy Story took the longest / was the biggest pain in the ass to do? They were still allowed to have some fun with that though at least
Disney's Hercules was always meant to be a Superman and sports movie
Woody and Sora wandering around as toys might actually make a great story.
Super Mario RPG characters on a Switch KH maybe?
Earthbound.
Chrono Cross and Trigger
Holy shit I forgot Chicken Little was a KH2 summon.
If I got a chance to direct KH:
>Sora keeps his looks, but is a chad playboy with lots of connections/info.
>Riku and Kairi are crossover/realm/dimension police.
>Main character is a experimental robot that is tasked to maintain peace between dimensions.
They didn't even revive Noctis. They just made an alternative non canon ending where he didn't die and even stated it was simply just a fanservice. Canonicaly, he is still dead.
I disagree, BbS was the only other one where it mattered. The OCs were actually interacting with the world and plots and Disney characters.
Hello fellow Xion fan! I can tell you have good taste.
>The OCs were actually interacting with the world and plots and Disney characters
None of the Disney plots actually mattered to the overarching story beyond Maleficent and Stitch.
The way they killed him will never be not cruel. They made him so likable just to hurt us at the end by killing him.
Tabata love his tragic endings, but he knows how to make them memorable and hit you hard.
I disagree, KH2 is the only world that didn't have Disney worlds mattering.
maybe you're right.
The next game (which wont be 4 probably) has potential because Sora is lost in some deeper realm, so the plot can just be Sora traveling worlds with the power of waking to find home, and Riku traveling to find Sora with the MoM fucking with them because of his keikaku. It's kind of back to KH1's set up, where Sora was lost and fell to Traverse Town.
That's pretty obviously untrue when KH3 is the one where Sora starts off a world literally saying "I wonder why we're here".
At least in 1 and 2 you had the hand wave of him looking for his friends.
Oops was meant for these posts
>what are thematic ties
>Ardyn revealed to have been absurdly fucked over even more than we thought
>Bahamut and the other jackasses were the real assholes all along
>tfw they canonically get away with everything on top of the stuff from the regular ending
Shit sucks
Given Nomuras boner for symbolism and 4's associations in Japan it would be neat I'd the next numbered title was more serious or Sora growing up and getting his shit together while facing some heavy hitting stuff. Maybe have him act more like he was in CoM when he could actually get pissed off
I can't believe kingdom hearts was my gateway drug to weebshit along with a whole host of other stuff...though I started growing edgier, my love of Disney was all but extinguished. Honestly, I'm in the minority that kingdom hearts would have been a better game if they cut off the final fantasy and Disney shit.
The world building is original enough that a few tweaks here and there would make it just as memorable as the original.
He was on quest to get the power of waking. They don't spell it out but everything made him inspired on his journey. In KH1 and 2 Sora wanted to be a real hero, and he helps Herc defeat hades finally because herc's love for Meg. That tied into BH6 where he became a hero to BH6 to help inspire them, and he was reminded of Roxas too. Then he kills himself to save everyone finally becoming a true hero.
Will and Elizabeth's end mirrored Sora and Kairi, Verum Rex is extremely important so Toy Story was, Sora had a premonition of Kairi being Frozen in Frozen when Anna was frozen.
I mean its retarded though, but if you think about it poetically almost nothing was really unimportant thematically.
>He was on quest to get the power of waking.
A pointless quest.
Oh my god is that were we are now? Are KH3 defenders gonna start posting about kino? Is this our BvS?
Why was it pointless?
Because of the reveal that he had never lost the power of waking and had it from DDD, before the game even started, and he could've saved everyone at any point.
Because he had it all along, he just needed to be in a position to require it's use.
>almost nothing was really unimportant thematically.
When they never had a reason to actually go to any of those worlds it kind of ruins any cool links that could have been made, It just makes it all pointless and contrived.
That's like saying Kingdom Hearts 1 was pointless because Kairi was inside him the entire time.
Or KH2 was pointless because the Nobodies can regrow hearts the entire time.
Or the Wizard of Oz was pointless because Dorothy could go home the entire time
>taught local homeless the ins and outs of the lingering will boss fight
>let them watch a video of dark inferno
>one slapped my phone out of hand for showing them such trite
>everyone understood that KH3 was a rushed unfinished mess of a game.
>donated a PS2 and one of my many copies of KH2FM to the shelter
>realized that Twilight Town in kh2 is better than any world in KH3
>understand that while slow, the prologue is more emotionally engaging than any moment in KH3
>know that I still have the rest of KH2FM ahead of me
Who else /enlightened/ here?
This isn't canon, tho. All of these are part of DOTF which is AU. Bahamut isn't a bad guy.
>That's like saying Kingdom Hearts 1 was pointless because Kairi was inside him the entire time.
He was looking for Riku as well, remember?
>That's like saying Kingdom Hearts 1 was pointless because Kairi was inside him the entire time.
He still needed to find her body.
>Or KH2 was pointless because the Nobodies can regrow hearts the entire time.
That was a pointless retcon that does in fact ruin 2.
>Or the Wizard of Oz was pointless because Dorothy could go home the entire time
Much like KH2 Dorothy was being used by a lying skank to kill her enemies because she was too much of a bitch to do it herself, WoO only happened because Dorothy was lied to by pretty much everyone in her path. If we had any inkling of a reason to believe Yen Sid lied to Sora to further his own goals then yes KH3 would be like the movie, but we don't. As it stands now Yen Sid was just a garbage teacher that sent us on a 25 hour wild goose chase for no reason.
>kairi is useless after years of hype
>no cloud, leon, etc
>entire game is about saving Ven and Aqua yet they both do nothing
>lingering will is in the game for 30 secs after years of hype
>the entire frozen world
>no oblivion
>Ventus is unplayable
>attraction flows exist
>the entire heartless tornado in the KBG cutscene
>Sora can't run in a circle properly
>anti aqua only has one form
>the final boss is the most boring form of xehanort
>no Sora's mom
>flow motion is nerfed so much that it's fucking pointless
>no radiant garden
>twilight town is smaller than in KH2
>cooking exists
>the mechs in Toy Box
>no Star Wars
>crab collecting
>cliffhanger ending
>underwater combat
>Tangled, Frozen and Big Hero 6 were actually selected to be worlds
>the soulless PS3 era graphics
>no Colosseum
>Phil doesn't have a single line due to muh jap va
>kairi doesn't say a word to Riku
>Mickey is fucking useless
>no real Marvel
>Sora had the power of waking inside him the whole time
>Scala was clearly cut short
>references to the shitty mobile game
>xehanort gets to go to keyblade heaven
>the entire black box subplot
>no org fights until the end
>less content than final mix games despite a longer dev time
>no mirage arena
>bringing back Xion
>dual wielding shoved into DLC. Probably for a single fight
>no Indiana Jones world
Why
No its canon it's just shown to be even worse. Besides all the Astrals sans maybe Shiva (and she needed a lot of lore development to get there) were pricks in the base game
Ardyn isn't that innocent too. What his brother did to him was messed up, but he made the choice to take his revenge on innocent people who have have nothing to do with what happened to him.
Olette Vs. Namine'
Who wins?
>attraction flows exist
Not inherently a problem, the mistake is that there's only fucking 5 in the entire game and after Twilight Town they just get boring to see repeated over and over.
>flow motion is nerfed so much that it's fucking pointless
Flow Motion was always trash, the worlds were too open to make any decent use of it even in DDD.
>cooking exists
Again, not inherently a mistake but the game isn't balanced for it, it was just thrown in there for the sake of having it.
>no Star Wars
This is a good thing.
>underwater combat
Vastly improved from 1, their mistake was constraining it to only one world and using it in the final boss fight.
>Tangled, Frozen and Big Hero 6 were actually selected to be worlds
Nothing is wrong with that, they just didn't use them properly is all.
>no real Marvel
Still a good thing.
Ardyn stuff prior to main events of the game is canon it's just the endgame / new potential ending stuff that isnt
This series clearly isn't for you if you're this much of a fucking brainlet.
Uh, they even said that Ardyn was delusional and not everything happened in his episode was true. Not to mention that that his episode was supposed to be the first part of a new story by Tabata's own words and it was too late to change it when they made the decision to turn the rest of Dotf dlcs into a novel instead. It's not canon.
>Kairi saved Sora from fully dying
>KH FF characters pale in comparison to their FF versions and there are already enough characters
>Ven and Aqua fight in the final battle
>lingering will had the most badass moment in the game
>Roxas had oblivion
You have legit complaints like twilight town but holy shit calm your tits
>Flow Motion was always trash
Retard
Tangled world and Big Hetero Sex world were used right it's just Frozen world that sucked ass
They really weren't. BH6 is just a big empty box to show off their wall running shit, the story has about two beats and then is over despite being the first announced world it has probably the least actual content in the game. Tangled was just a retelling of the movie but with a bunch of scenes cut out, we don't see how Rapunzel gets the satchel from Gothel to give to Flynn it's just there because it was like that in the movie.
Yeah and his approach to the scourge, while noble, wasn't really that sustainable either unless he found a way to wipe it entirely by sacrificing himself (which he kinda did in a shittier way I think at the end?). His aggressors were still more in the wrong and it's not that surprising he went a bit fucking bonkers after being put in super brutal prison for 2000 years and being so completely screwed over by those he held dear
/vg/ here, this dude you replied to is a mentally ill psychopath who has been writing such garbage for the last 8 months
Maybe read the full sentence, nimrod.
>Yea Forums is getting frytard in full force
You poor poor bastards
Kairi can make bodies out of hearts. Its what she did to Sora's heart when his heart was a heartless. That's why Roxas and Sora coexist even.
The Nobodies all had hearts because they all felt and showed emotion. Their entire goal was emotionally driven, they were just depressed.
Literally everyone died when Sora had the power of awakening. Yen Sid didn't want anyone to die due to not being prepared, and he was kind of justified.
>14 year old little girl
>14
>pedo
I think that's because the Toy Story team were also control freaks, but they actually wanted to do something fun, while the Frozen team were just being bitches about letting someone else play with their thing.
Best couple, Vanitas X Olette!
But he's typinghow everyone I've ever seen shit on KH3 types, especially on Reddit.
While there are legit complaints and flaws it's like they never even played the game.
>hurrduerr there's no story till the end
But all the chapters marked intervals are about the plot and thety start pretty early on
>Kairi can make bodies out of hearts.
Not when hers is lying dormant inside Sora otherwise she would have done so.
>The Nobodies all had hearts because they all felt and showed emotion
They didn't, it's explained it's all an act and the only reason Roxas is different is because of his link to Sora, same with Axel.
>Yen Sid didn't want anyone to die due to not being prepared, and he was kind of justified.
Horseshit, had Yen Sid let Sora go and save Aqua and Ventus at the beginning of the game they'd have been properly rested and prepared for the war. It's literally Yen Sid's fault they all fucked up because he stalled them for so long like a retard.
Kingdom Hearts is a bad video game that only 13-year old fat girls like. Who cares?
>especially on Reddit.
Holy fuck go back.
And the rest of the sentence is just as retarded. FM in DDD is the 2nd most broken thing right behind Balloon.
i didn't and i would start buying it
>I'm only PRETENDING to have emotion
If their emotions weren't real then why did they want hearts so badly? Longing IS an emotion.
>broken
So it's unbalanced, unfun garbage then? And the only attack you ever use is the "swing around the big dream eaters" one.
>>Kairi saved Sora from fully dying
At this point Sora's such a joke that dying heroically might've been an improvement.
>BH6 is just a big empty box to show off their wall running shit
Funnily enough I hardly ran along the walls in BH6. Sora's much too slow, and the city is much too empty for me to casually jog through. Air-step all the way. It was already pretty overpowered, but in BH6 you can air-step up entire skyscrapers, and like 5 city blocks.
>why did they want hearts so badly
Because they remembered what it was like and didn't like being these half people abominations? This is a game for fucking children, it's not that hard to understand.
The problem is Ardyn has become a host to the starcourge due to him absorbing it from the people he healed. What Somuns did to him was questionable, but he was right that Ardyn wasn't suitable to become a king and keeping him in a perison was the only way to control the starcourge until the chosen king was born.
That was exactly what happened in the ending.
He's not dead though, just lost. That was just sequel bait and another reason for him to start at level 1 in the next game.
INot liking being half people abominations and wanting to go back = emotion.
Why else do you think it was possible for them to regrow hearts naturally? Literally childrens toys can grow hearts in KH.
It's barely a retcon.
That's still a heroic sacrifice you dumbass
Is it really all that heroic or really a sacrifice if Sora didn't KNOW he was going to die/be trapped in another Universe?
I just spammed balloon with high magic stats and magic boosts from dream eaters to obliterate anything.
You can literally annihilate the game's secret super boss in like 30 seconds by kiting him through balloons of death
It's about as heroic as Goku going to heaven to train every other week.
Everything they did was out of logic, being an abomination of nature is logically somethig no one wants, so they set out to fix themselves.
The thing was based on what happened. Ardyn literally WAS chosen. It was because Ardyns girlfriend couldn't keep her fucking mouth shut that shit went south and Bahamut did a huuuge runback leaving Ardyn to hang after he momentarily went nuclear after his bro killing her.
Yeah, they were all stuck in a bad situation that was out of their control including Bahamut. They didn't mean to screw Ardyn, he was just unlucky.
>I just spammed balloon with high magic stats and magic boosts
It blows me away how magic always manages to be somewhat super busted in every fucking installment.
KH1: youtube.com
CoM: youtube.com
KH2: Magnet is cast as a finisher. You can either use Magnet and hit Square for the ground finisher, bouncing you into the air for an air combo on the ball of enemies, or you can use Magnet and get an instant Thunder finisher.
DDD: youtube.com
KH3: youtube.com
It's absurd.
Ardyn was chosen to be founder king (before Somuns was like nah which to be fair wasn't wrong), not the true king who was the only one who could end the starcourge. That was always supposed to be Noctis.
>Reasons for going to Disney worlds in each game
>KH1; I don't know where my friends are, but we need to stop the Heartless, so lets go protect the worlds from them, and search for my friends at the same time.
>KH2; I don't know where my friend is, but we need to stop the Organization, and we don't know here they're hiding, so lets go protect the worlds from them, and search for my friend, and clues about the Organization's whereabouts as well, at the same time.
>KH3; I know where my friends are, but we need to stop the new Organization, and we need Aqua, Terra, and Ventus for that, so let's go find Aqua since we know where she roughly is.
>No you're not strong enough. Go to Disney worlds first, to find out how to get stronger.
The problem with KH3 is that we already knew where we were going from the beginning, but we were just passing time until we got the green light to do so, where as in 1 and 2, we didn't know where we were heading, so we went to the Disney worlds to try and find the way.
Holy fuck that Dark Inferno video. That's the ONE and ONLY secret boss in KH3 btw. Getting rooked and stunlocked into a wall by a single spell. Nice.
>we went to the Disney worlds to try and find the way.
Well no, we knew the way but some asshole wizard told us to fuck off for bullshit reasons.
>Well no, we knew the way
Not in 1 and 2 we didn't.
Is the asshole wizard Donald, or is it Yen Sid? Donald was seriously hammering it into Sora that he can't go get Aqua. Literally yelled at the poor guy.
>Donald was seriously hammering it into Sora that he can't go get Aqua
Only because Yen Sid told them.
And I never brought up 1 and 2 for that reason?
What bugs me about the parallels thing is that Bootstrap Bill and the Fish People have the most obvious parallels to Nortification and Aqua's abandonment issues but they completely discarded them.
>where as in 1 and 2, we didn't know where we were heading, so we went to the Disney worlds to try and find the way.
>where as in 1 and 2
Maybe you shouldn't have quoted the part talking about 1 and 2 then.
Square tries to be nuanced, but when they are most of their audience doesn't get it.
>no shipwreck cove
>no actually exploring the Dutchman as a level
>no Tortuga
What a fucking mistake of a world.
Wasn't Ardyn totally fine with letting Somnus be King if he was chosen? He didn't seem to give a shit and just wanted to help people.
Somnus just jumped straight into mudslinging and murder once the girl spilled the beans
>mom buys me KH1 day randomly as a gift
>fall in love with it instantly
>buy KH2 on day one when it comes out
>budgeted for it by buying snacks instead of lunch for weeks before hand
>it lived up to all my expectations
>Shortly after Disney gets Marvel
>think holy shit Kh3 is going to be awesome with Marvel characters and worlds
>Days comes out
>it's putrid shit
>don't care cause I pirated it and understand KH3 will make up for it
>BBS comes out
>it's god awful shit
>don't care cause I pirated it and understand KH3 will make up for it
>Disney obtains Star Wars
>think holy shit KH3 is going to have Pixar, Marvel and fucking Star Wars.
>DDD comes out
>can't even finish it because it's so shit
>don't care because Kh3 is coming
>at my uni, someone kills themselves
>at one of my crap jobs, a coworker hangs himself
>develop depression because of how shit and hopeless life is
>still look forward to KH3 because it's KH3
>KH3 finally comes out
>it's the shittiest game of all
>left feeling despair and hopelessness everyday
why couldn't they just deliver? KH3 was supposed to bring joy into my life. It only brought me pain.
That's because the characters were being written by Nomura and his team, not the writers/directors of their games. The main characters of FFIV onwards('cept 15) are vastly superior to the main characters of Kingdom Hearts.
Nomura's original characters are the biggest load of wank. Most the Final Fantasy and Disney characters were dragged down along with them.
You should kill yourself, seems like the only option left for you desu
>BH6 is just a big empty box to show off their wall running shi
All KH games are like that. The handled games have the excuse of being on a limited system but aside a world or two per game KH's level-design is usually very low-tier.
Let's correctly measure who the biggest jobber of the girls is and who was the most useful girl
>Kairi
>Does nothing the whole game despite having unlimited time to train. -1
>First chance she gets at fighting someone, she freezes and essentially waits to be killed. Understandable since it was Terranort though. -0.5
>gets kidnapped immediately in her first fight and dies 10 minutes later. -1
>Saves Sora from dying by believing in him hard enough. +1
Score is -1.5
>Olette
>Saves Ansem +1
>Understandable doesn't participate in any fighting because she doesn't have a keyblade
Score is 1
>Xion
>Saves Lea from Mansex. +1
>Immediately gets kicked in the chest afterwards and has Roxas save her, but her helplessness kind of brought Roxas back. -0.5
>Helps beat up Saix, whom Sora and Roxas were already beating into the ground. +0.5
>Let's Sora know Kairi is alive to calm him down and make him focus. +0.5
Score is 1.5
Namine
>Calls Terra in to save everyone from Terranort. +1
>Does nothing other than this, but it's ok since she's just a heart at that point
Score is 1
Aqua
>Gets blacked by the guardian by instigating a fight against Ansem. She didn't have her keyblade, but apparently forgot how to use magic. -0.5
>Jobs to Sora in a 1v1 despite being a master. -1
>Jobs to vanitas forcing a 1v1 for absolutely no reason and blocking a fireball with her body instead of with her keyblade. -1
>Helps fight random heartless fodder. +0.5
>Does absolutely nothing against Terranort while he's slaughtering the party because her feelings got hurt. -0.5
>Gives up and dies against the Demon tide despite telling the party 10 seconds ago to stick together. -1
>Helps fight Terranort and Vanitas. +1
>Jobs to Terranort a few minutes later in a 1v3. -1
>Gets demoted by Eraqus and he tells Terra to look after her and Ven, which was supposed to be her job. -0.5
Score is -4
This is undeniable proof that the correct order of best to worst girl is
Xion > Namine = Olette > Kairi > Aqua
Kingdom Hearts is the worst part of Kingdom Hearts. It could have been a nice series and even if the first was still kind of cringey and silly it was still pretty straightforward but then it went totally batshit insane with convoluted fucking nonsense.
1 wasn't, 1 had great platforming sections in places like Agrabah and Hollow Bastion.
>2 nerfed the shit out of magic compared to 1
If they fixed it in 3 I'll play it. Did they fix it?
>best to worst girl is
More like a list of whys you don't want to be a girl in a Nomura's fanfic.
No. They made it busted as fuck again, and had to nerf the hell out of it.
>aside a world or two per game
Yes.
I like how they put Terra in the hood and he never wears besides that one scene
Nomura was given complete freedom with the Disney characters for KH1 which is why you had the council of bad guys.
By KH3 Disney put on massive restrictions which is why so many of the stages are "Sora watches the movie from a respectable distance". It's a shame more worlds weren't like Toy Story which had an original story, original setting and blended well with the XIII stuff (maybe Pixar were more happy to give them freedom)
Wait for ReMIND
> INDEEEEEDDDDDD
May as well be the game's tagline.
Ardyn didn't do nothin
He was, but Somuns simply thought that being Ardyn chosen was wrong part because he was jealous and part because he thought he wasn't a good fit to be a king. Bahamut probably felt he made a mistake by choosing Ardyn because he end up being affected by the starcourge which is why he didn't interfere.
Betraying his brother like that was terrible, but it end up working for the best because Noctis was born from his bloodline and saved the world.
Bully me Larxene
Predictable response
How is Larxene best girl?
You must have come from a universe where she's written as something more than a walking femdom fetish.
Somnus also cared mainly about saving people. He just had a different approach from his brother and wasn't doing less to help.
I don't care what any of you say. Kairi Is best girl with the best design.
Too bad design is all she has going for her
We also have an /aco/ thread if you are interested in sharing your KH lewds.
Even Aqua Lewds?
Why bother? It's almost all gay shit.
She's cute so it doesn't matter. Also she has spats now and it's great that the game allows you to see up her skirt. I'll miss her KH2 panties tho
Yes
The thread is about straight KH porn
Can't be a very big thread, or else your art standards are incredibly low.
Go away.
The /aco/ thread is great. I found out new artists thanks to the anons posting their shit there and there's an user that's learning how to draw with the sole purpose of creating new KH porn.
Aww what's wrong? Are you triggered by a bunch of polygons?
Probably a salty Xionigger.
You both have major issues. Xion is shit. Kairi is shit. And so are the pair of you.
If we're going to point finger at each other then he's probably the Xion rapist or frytard pretending to be the Xion rapist
>Xion is shit.
Literally the only true statement in your post.
Xion and Kairi are cute. It doesn't matter what you say to me I'll not change my mind.
I dunno. It really just felt like Bahamut just making shit up on the spot after Somnus triggered Ardyn all to the end that he can have his super special OC donutsteel super king save the world
Then there was all that torture if Ardyn chooses not to play ball. It was all bullshit plain and simple
Xion is cute
Xion is a trash heap of a character and her entire existence drags down the series as a whole.
>her entire existence drags down the series as a whole
Looks like you didn't play the games
I did, and I regret doing so with Days and 3.
>he didn't like the game with the best story and the game with the best gameplay
You can't be this retarded right?
>Then there was all that torture if Ardyn chooses not to play ball
This wasn't canon or even an option. They even said so themselves in interview.
Bahamut has chosen Ardyn as the founder king just for him to be rejected by the Crystal due to him being tainted by the starcourge. This was out of his control and turned out to be for the best because Noctis was born from Somnus' bloodline, not Ardyn's. Also, Noctis was the only person in the entire world who was capable of ending the starcourge. His existence was absolutely essential or they would have doomed without him.
If her design is all she has, then she's still garbage. Not even porn artists like her. She should have stayed dead.
Speaking of which, anyone else feel that the characters that were revived in Kingdom Hearts 3 should have stayed dead? It's really bad writing to revive characters just to not make the fantards upset.
>You can't be this retarded right?
That's most definitely my line if you think Days had anything resembling a good story, CoM blows it out of the water and 1 shits on them both. I'm not even going to justify that other point with a serious reply.
>Not even porn artists like her
Wrong
>I'm not even going to justify that other point with a serious reply.
That screams to me that you can't think of anything at the moment that hasn't been repeated 100 times by the same idiots parroting their favorite e-celebs
Kingdom hearts should've ended with two, and a new random kid should've had his world destroyed and have him look for friends in a similar manner if they wanted a sequel. It could've been a generational thing with different MCs like yugioh and further down the line have them all team up.
Yes they should have stayed gone.
The one that angers me the most is Namine. That cunt literally is responsible for permanently mentally damaging Sora's brain. It's because of her that now Sora is this idiot who never learns. And worse? It seems there's a chance she still has her Memory Power so control Sora and anyone who knows Sora. Why would anyone want to revive this liability? Cunt should have stayed dead. I can't wait to see who else is going to suffer brain issues because of her being alive. She's a danger, no one in their right mind would ever trust another person who has the power to change your mind and personality on a whim. Terrible idea Nomura.
Quit SPAMMING this shit. It's just the same image with a slightly different angle. MODS!
No
Also if couldn't stop me in /vg/ what makes you think that you can do it here in Yea Forums?
He's from /vg/ or something, probably wants to sink the thread like a faggot. Just report his ass
>literally gets fought to death
>doesn't pay
Nigger what?
He literally smiled as he passed on to gay shota heaven.
Thank you pantsu spammer
Wish it were Namine tho.
Okay and? He's fucking dead, Sora fought him to death
Name a random disney villian and odds are they got a more cathartic and brutal comeuppance than Xehanort did by turning into a fucking force ghost.
>i don't like it so it doesn't count
user
>in military training
>have a roommate move in my dorm with me
>he has merchandise and posters from KH3
>he plays KH3 all day and all night
>he tells me KH3's combat is what keeps him alive
>warn him where his KH3 love will get him
>the time comes when we fight in Iraq
>dodge bullets with quick reflexes thanks to years of KH2FM level 1 critical mode honing my combat skills
>watch my friend try and dodge the bullets, but KH3's slow and floaty combat didn't teach him well
>he gets impalled with bullets
>he is on the ground dying
>any last words?
>he finally admits KH3 was shit, and he was a coper
>he was coping because he waited 13 years for KH3, only for it to be shit
>he wanted for KH3 to be good so hard, and his delusions are ultimately what caused him to lose his life
>now back at home starting a another level 1 critical mode run now
Who else /blessed/ and /enlightened/? KH2FM saved my life
>he passed away
So he didn't get away with everything he did
It doesn't even come off as a death. It comes off as an ascention to a higher plane. He turns into a ball of light and floats upwards. That's pretty universal symbolism and it's not negative.
Sadly she only exist in FMV form. We'll have to wait until 2025 for whenever they hack the PS4 so we can import the models. You can still try to watch under her dress in KH VR
He still fucking died from Sora fighting him, you're literally complaining about not liking it not that he didn't pay
lol forgot my pic
why draw KH porn when you could learn how to rip the 3D models from the game and rig them for use in SFM or Blender?
As expected of someone called ''Aqua''
Because he didn't. Death is cheap as fuck in this series and it's not enough to balance the scales
He was still alive long enough to be told off by Eraqus. It looks more like he just died of old age because they stalled him long enough, he didn't die in battle like Ansem or Xemnas.
>to be told off by Eraqus
Sora gets told off harder for trying to save everyone.
And really that's what it boils down to. All throughout KH3 Sora gets chewed out and talked down and abused and his ending is worse than the arc's big evil bad guy.
Because I'm doing that with the Pokemon Masters models
Stop spamming the spats of a 15 year old little girl you disgusting pedo
The 1st game is the best one
That's a weird way of spelling Olette
500
Hurray! The Kairi Spammer got all his posts deleted. Thank you mods and janitors.
It's been a while since we had a Kingdom Hearts thread and it would have been a real shame if it ended up sabotaged and ended in such a terrible way.
Now then, any hope for the future of the Kingdom Hearts series? I mean the new arc technically started on that Kingdom Hearts Chi game.
>any hope for the future of the Kingdom Hearts series
Absolutely none after that nonsense with 3.
There's also another matter. Remember, Nomura is busy with FF7 Remake and that's episodic so that means we won't hear about a new Kingdom Hearts game for many years. Wonder if fan interest will decrease in that time.
Actually what it means is we'll be getting a bunch of lazy garbage between 3 and 4 and when 4 finally does come out Nomura will have stopped caring entirely about MoM because he'll have come up with a brand new super cool villain and throw together a half assed finale so he can move on to the next saga.
Nomura said that there's only one game before Kingdom Hearts 4 is developed. Still I don't trust that man.
>caring about numbered games
Those are the worst ones
Anyone else hoping that Sora is NOT the Master of Masters?
Why would he be?
>Still I don't trust that man.
As well you shouldn't, Nomura says a lot of things and a lot of bullshit.
It's a bad cliche. Usually a protagonist who is described as ordinary turns out to be this special individual. We don't need that in Kingdom Hearts.
>Sora
>Not a special individual
Come on man, he's a heart tank and can wield a keyblade, not THE Keyblade just any before riku got his, before he's 10
TMNT. It seems like a good fit. The only issue is would Sora transform? Because it sucks when he transforms into something when humans already exist.
Yeah the Disney worlds are absolutely filler. Not integrating them into the overall future story of KH was a huge mistake.
I got so frustrated trying to actually understand the story and characters I did a rewrite of the first game to streamline stuff, and involve more Disney characters, and actually cross them over with each other.
Since, you know, it is a crossover.
>what are thematic ties
Yeah, but fuck the World Order rule. Worlds becoming aware of each other and reunification should have been one of the franchise's story goals from the start, but it never happened because of all the licensing shit.
If they get in the way of KH being an actual proper crossover? Fucking hot trash is what they are.
Woody Woodpecker
That's more Disney's rules. Disney is NOT for their animated film characters to crossover.
Yeah, but then Descendants and Once Upon a Time happened. And Once Upon a Time is even more convoluted and shitty then Kingdom Hearts.
I'm gonna KILL Praxis!
You know Disney has an incredibly strict no crossover rule right? Like the reason summons are magic now is because Disney told him to stop taking characters out of their worlds.
It did happen, in x. Characters just never went outside of Daybreak Town.
Well, technically that was before the split but yes we have been to a time when they were connected
You two haven't been keeping up with UX's lore have you?
So because it's Disney's fault it's okay?
So it's Disney fault KH is about as interesting as room temperature piss when making crossovers? Makes sense
Weren't those Live Action? That's a big loophole. They're no longer animated film characters.
Mind giving a real sauce on that one chief? I mean it's bullshit enough to believe, but you gotta be sure about these things.
It you wanna get wacky Wreck It Ralph also broke that rule, same with Sophia the First
I never said it was okay, but if Nomura isn't allowed to do stuff there's nothing he can do about it. The reason Frozen was the way it was is due to Disney not letting them turn Elsa dark and having her castle be the final boss. They have to keep checking in with Disney.
I have, before going into Wreck-It Ralph Brain talked about how they could walk to any of the worlds.
Neutral space rule. The Disney Website and Sofia's kingdom aren't part of a specific Disney film, so it's free for characters to interact. It's how House of Mouse works. Plus even with Sofia, they still separate the princesses and only have them interact with Sofia.
Don't got a source, but the cartoon House of Mouse (which existed for a year before Kingdom Hearts), had a rule that only universal Disney characters like Mickey, Pete, etc. could interact with the animated film characters. Also Disney apparently hated Pepper Ann having a cameo because she's from a Disney animated series and not from an animated theatrical film.
Really now depending on the era? Disney has different attitudes because BEFORE House of Mouse Hercules and Aladdin had a crossover episode and both of them are from Disney theatrical animated films. But for a while now til the present Disney is not huge on their cinematic animated characters doing much of anything. I'm even surprised that Stich had those crossover trailers with Little Mermaid, Aladdin, etc.
>Brain talked about how they could walk to any of the worlds.
You mind giving me a timestamp on that one, chief? Because as far as I remember all the worlds you visit in UX are digital constructions created from the book of prophecies.
Wreck It Ralph used the Disney Princess Brand Designs of the Disney Princesses. Notice how Rapunzel does NOT look like how she does in her actual film. Disney has Rapunzel's model and yet instead of reusing it, they make a different looking one. The strange thing? Rapunzel had a cameo in Frozen where they DID use the original model again. But I guess that's a blink and you miss it kind of deal making it okay by Disney.
Disney is just screwy. And I think they being so complicated is what will kill Kingdom Hearts. I don't see Nomura putting up with this forever.
This was a good thread. So full of detailed discussion. Thanks Yea Forums.
You're correct, but they are constructs of the future. In the past the worlds are connected
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That's the NA version to, official translation
>In the past the worlds are connected
I'm not too sure it's the worlds as we know them being connected. More like a single world exists, not one where every Disney movie is fused into a single planet, but an entirely OC planet that when split created Disney movie worlds from the hearts of children.
NNomura said the further away from the canon movies the more creative control he has, like it was extremely easy for them to greenlight the Simba summon where Simba is a giant and made of flames because it was sodifferent.
Nomura should really try to take a different approach for more creative freedom and storytelling, but he was so out of touch that he didnt understand why more people cared about Anti Aqua than Elsa during a trailer at a game show. That might even explain why the OC worlds in 3 were small and mostly cutscene set pieces. Unless the Disney executives are the ones that made him think that using dark magic.
The more shitty Disney gets the more I appreciate shadowy kabals as villians in KH.
Watch the video, user. Brain says that they could have visited the same exact locations, but it would take a long time because the world is huge
What about Ralph?
Fair, but this is Nomura. I don't expect him to give a rat's ass about this by the time the next game comes out. He already retconned the UX world from a world in the realm of sleep to a digital construct.
Bruh it's even more strict than that since its literal conception. The entire reason Sora travels to isolated worlds is because Disney wouldnt let them actually cross anything over.
Nope, x was the original story of the Keyblade War. The game's secret ending is Player waking up in the Unchained Realm which is what Union x is about. Union x was ALWAYS the digital world, America just never got x.
And when all of the princesses were gathered and talking to one another in Hollow Bastion?
I like how Xehahort's entire motivation and descent into darkness was caused by an extremely strick dogma on the no world rule thar forbid travel to other worlds. I think Nomura is kind of aware that its BS or that wouldnt have been a thing. Same for Riku in 1 even.
>I like how Xehahort's entire motivation and descent into darkness was caused by an extremely strick dogma on the no world rule thar forbid travel to other worlds
Literally what are you on about
Pretty sure Ava in X keeps making references to dreams and sleep when talking about Ephemer, that's also why he can come talk to (you) in your sleep.
She does. Chirithy does as well strictly in reference to player.
Which is what I mean, in X the unchained realm was supposed to be Daybreak Town after it fell into the realm of sleep. UX only just recently retconned it into a digital realm because "muh coded needs to be important".
>Our Master instructed us to don armor while traveling between worlds, so that we might shield ourselves from the darkness. But there, in the Lanes Between, I could feel the force of it—the power—and from then on, I forwent my armor's "protection." I had been told the darkness would devour me, but what terrors could it possibly hold, so long as I found the strength to control it
Lorelet.
As said before Disney is schizophrenic and what goes is what they feel like allowing at the moment. Nomura actually wanted a part were all the respective princes would come to fight and save their princesses but Disney didn't allow it. Only beast made the cut and if you go back to kh1 you will notice the off fact that he never once interacted with maleficent. Despite wanting to defeat her and get back Belle. In fact he doesn't reappear until fighting dragon maleficent despite not having been there for the previous right and disappears again when fighting Riku-Ansem.
Literally the plot to BBS you fucking idiot.
I'm almost positive that beast never once mentions Maleficent. By name or otherwise. Unless he mentions it in a text box since my memory on those is incredibly hazy.
See >Xehahort's entire motivation and descent into darkness was caused by an extremely strick dogma on the no world rule thar forbid travel to other worlds
>Our Master instructed us to don armor while traveling between worlds
How am I wrong .
Literally the entire point of his character was that he didn't believe in not exploring and you just explained what happened when he started exploring which Injust saidm he didnr wear his armour because he didnt agree with any if Eraqus sogma too.
>it was caused by a strict dogma about not being allowed to travel to other worlds!
>"wear this armor while traveling to other worlds"
?????
Xehanort's focused less on "the worlds shouldn't be connected" and more on "surely darkness can't be THAT bad."
This is really going entirely over your head. The overall quality of this post is evidence enough. You speak like you haven't read the reports of the very game you're speaking of.
>beast never once mentions Maleficent
He doesn't which is what's strange, you'd think he'd want to tear her apart.
Does he even know Maleficent is in the castle? He's just been yowling outside according to her before Riku went and whupped his ass.
Whats strange about that? He doesn't know who he is. You forget his whole reason for being in Hollow Bastion in the first place. His longing to get Belle back is what brought him there. He doesn't know the details.
>no Aladdin to do King of Thieves
>No Treasure Planet
>No Kim Possible
>no marvel
>no star wars
>no FF subplot resolving Cloud/Sephiroth conflict
>no Riku/Kairi moments
>No battle with Sora/Riku/Kairi
>Mickey isn't playable
>no Mickey/donald/goofy party
>no real scene between Ven and Roxas
>lingering will isn't playable
>terranort isn't the final boss
>no Roxas fight against Xemnas
>no two become one with a keyblade transformation that's final form dual-wielding oathkeeper and oblivion.
>no Fenrir with the keyblade transformation based off of FF7 limit breaks.
>no sephiroth boss battle
>no Noctis boss battle
>no Colosseum
>no Tidus meeting the fairies from KH2 or Auron
>Only 20 hours long
>no real ending
>end is all sequelbait
>khux shoved in to pander to gachafags
>sora can't run in circles properly
KH3 was a disaster.
>no coliseum
>no noctis
Gladio would have been in the coliseum you shitposting idiot.
All four would have like that battle in 2 where you fight Leon, Cloud, Tifa, and Yuffie all at once.