All For One would pretty much be unstoppable in the DCU, huh?

Exactly!

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Nah, he gets btfo by Hal and Batman.

DC has like a billion of those.

he does have to be touching the person to steal their powers, I think

It’s the ability to steal, house, and give those powers to other people of need be. He steals powers not just to buff himself, but to bribe followers into following him. For example he could walk up to Ben Grimm, take his powers/appearance, and then give it to a wanting party.

>*Steals Superman and Lex Luthor's quirks*

Literally who can beat him now?

The power to manipulate powers. It's like Whitesnake from JJBA, but if he can use disks on himself, and he can use all of the disks at the same time.

I thought he needed the machines for that?

He can be dusted from space by a lot of shit, also, some capes doesn't have a innate power but are powered by something else, like the magic users and the lanterns

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He has the power to steal powers

DC has dealt with power stealers. Usually involves exposing them to a weakness caused by a power they stole.

Oh and I forget to mention, even Superman doesn't have something you could steal, his powers are just what happens when people of Krypton bath in a yellow sun

Just punch him until he dies

I like Parasite more than Amazo. He has a time limit, and still does the same thing

Go away casual.

>Gets completely killed by anyone that's powers aren't biological or that has alien physiology
1/2 the cast would just laugh at him.

Wasn’t that a Static Shock villain?

>All For One would pretty much be unstoppable in the DCU, huh?

Believe it or not, Kid Nemesis would absolutely fuck All For One straight in the ass. Cameron Chase would probably beat him, too, depending on how effective her dampening field is.

Nah. Ragtag had no powers of his own and his gifts wore off. He was kind of a like a drug dealer, getting kids hooked. Leech was a Parasite knockoff

I think that, even if we assumed he could do anything to a metahuman that he could do to a Quirk user, he wouldn't be all that dangerous. There's still plenty of people who are retarded-strong, and whose power he wouldn't be able to take away. Fucking aliens and robots and magic users and whatnot.

As others have said: Amazo.
And before anyone brings up the MU, the Avengers have defeated the Super-Adaptoid multiple times.

How would he fair against Rogue from Marvel?

You wouldn't even need the Avengers. Just get Leech within 50 feet of him and AFO is completely depowered. Then you can just shoot him with a gun.

AFO at least appears to be above average intelligence and is willing to play the long game given his nigh immortality. But yeah he’s not that big of a deal in DC

I’d love to see Hal kick his ass.

If it works on the same system, yeah. If the powers in the DCU aren't considered "quirks" and can't be stolen, then he's pretty screwed.

He'd get dumpstered by a single speedster.

And even then, he would presumably only be able to steal biological superpowers. He wouldn't be able to steal magic powers like Wonder Woman or tech-based powers like Green Lantern and Cyborg. Also, I doubt he could absorb the powers of an alien like Superman or the Martian Manhunter.

Fire Punch would pose a bigger threat since they'd risk creating more just like him if they threw everyone witha healing factor at him.

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He would be much more dangerous at marvel since you have millions of mutants with something to steal, but e even so there's a lot of ways to overcome mutant based powers

He's Blackbeard from One Piece in a manga inspired by Western comics because Western comics are all the rage right now.

Krypto-fuck

That's an interesting question, but I think his would trump hers since she seems to just draw out their life force and their power comes with it whereas he takes a person's ability to have a power.

Superman doesn’t even have quirks, he has normal Kryptonian biology. That would be like stealing a human’s ability to sweat from them.

>Cursed to be burning until ashes remain
>Unstoppable healing factor that spreads the curse
Even with his setting's power-level, everything that isn't cosmic level would be fucked.

Most Quriks do change the persons body as well. The bird nigga is a good example as so is the grapist. Quirks are just another word for superpowers. He stole quirks that people were born with anyway so I'm pretty sure he cnlan steal Supermans

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Aren't quirks like the X-gene tho? I think he would fit more in Marvel than DC.

Sort of? They’re genetic, but scientists still have little clue where they came from originally. Some speculate it was a virus that started with rats

Pretty much NBC Heroes

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Since he can only steal 'Quirks' I don't thin nk he could Nick any super powers from individuals not from his own universe. If that's the case, just throw Superman and him and watch his ass get throw through a building.

Peter's dad was All for One, Syler could just reverse engineer powers and Peter copied them. The entire thing was incredibly shit writing in retrospect.

The important difference is that Amazo copies, AFO steals.

If AFO gets the Flash's speed, the Flash doesn't still get to have it. The Flash is now a powerless human AND AFO has the Flash's speed, permanently.

Amazo, if you defeat him, doesn't mean that a bunch of heroes are permanently de-powered. Stopping AFO's reign of terror doesn't return all of his stolen abilities to their original owners, they are just forcibly retired.

Why can’t he take the One For All quirk back from Deku?

Its a hard counter to his quirk

He's stuck in prison, so he can't really do much of anything right now.

This is an important point. AFO can specifically steal 'quirks'. In the setting he is from, any superpower is called a quirk.

Transplanted into DC or Marvel, what counts as a quirk for AFO? Can he not steal anything, and is limited only to what powers he has stolen in canon before he gets moved over? Can he only s teal powers that people are born with, but not things that are a result of an accident? Can he steal powers only from humans, but not superpowered aliens? Can he use his powers on anything thats CALLED a superpower?

Until you define the rules of the interaction between his defining characteristic and the new setting, its totally impossible to say how well he does. Because an AFO that can't steal any new powers and is limited to the kit he already has is vastly different from an AFO that can steal Superman's powers, followed by stealing Supergirl's powers, resulting in him being 2x Kryptonian.

Yeah but Amazo can copy things like Batman's intellect, Green Arrow's archery skills, Vixen totem powers and Zatanna's magic. While AFO only steals quirks

It’s an unnatural quirk born from two. The base ability is stockpiling energy, and passing it to someone else when both consent. After 9 generations it enhances physical abilities to Superman levels, and can even amplify the powers of the person it’s passed down to. AFO can’t take it by force

The reason we are given is that AFO steals quirks that normally just exist for a single user. One For All has, as part of its quirk, built-in conditions dictating how it is passed on to a successor. This built-in condition locks out AFO, because they are mutually exclusive.

That doesn't make. How can a machine see intellect or even understand the totem?

Amazo doesn't make any sense. Its a plot device, don't think too hard about it.

This is also tied to them being brothers, and AFO unable to steal a quirk similar in nature to his. All AFO’s brother, the original OFA user, could do is just give this singular power away.

I think he gets fucked up by the heroes he can't copy(Green Lantern, Zatanna, Firestorm) which are also some of the most powerful and versatile ones around

The same way he copies Zatanna's magic, Gl's ring, etc. pic related

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Magic is science we just don't understand, nigga.

What happens if Amzo see's me jacking off. Will he grow a dick just to copy me?

But aren't Kryptonian and Martian powers a natural part of their physiology? It'd be like him stealing a person's ability to walk or breathe

Yes and it will be twice as big and have a gl ring on it

That's all irrelevant, Superman doesn't have "super powers" its just his alien biology. You can't steal that because again, that's like taking a human's ability to sweat or breathe.

Not really. He's actually pretty stupid when you consider he could freely steal, distribute, and hoard powers and has master plan was just to fight people in public.

He's actually pretty stupid.

Green Lantern.

No seriously, that's how they beat Amazo the first time. Green Lantern can steal and distribute the life-energy that constitutes various superpowers (but not Superman because his power is too OP to jack and manipulate).

When Death Battle gave Hal the win over Ben 10 it was because they did theri Green Lantern homework.

He’s the Parasite.

No he would copy the dick of someone with a big dick, or at least a normal size one.

Actually, Amazo CAN steal powers. It's how he worked in his first appearance and sometimes the writers remember he can still do it.

Considering that both Martian Manhunter and Superman can be de-powered in their own canon by various effects, AND in the context of MHA every single quirk is a natural part of that persons physiology (to the poiont that if he takes away a guys 'multiple arms' quirk that guys extra arms will disappear) I'd say its hardly impossible for him to be able to do it.

It really all depends on what level of interaction we give his powers with non-quirk abilities.

He'd do better in marvel. Power stealing is broken, but so is the Justice League, and they have experience fighting power stealers, and while his power might not work on a lot non-quirk powers, it would be almost guaranteed to work on mutants.

Amazo's power copying makes no sense, he copies things he really shouldn't be able to

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By definition a quirk is something that makes you different, he'd only be able to steal mutations that would differentiate a person from the rest of their species.

Fighting Almight in public was actually a good plan, though. Winning the fight was never the goal, forcing Allmight into a position where it was revealed to the rest of the world that Allmight could no longer enforce his position as Symbol of Peace was the goal, because now the social contract holding MHA's society together has had a major supporting pillar of it removed.

His goal was to kill Allmight on live televison, not with a 'clever' or indirect quirk like mind control that might make him victory seem cheap, but by a very obvious and simple brute force attack that would make it clear that Allmight lost because he was WEAKER, not because he got blindsided by a cheaty quirk.

AFO got overconfident and lost the battle, but he wont he war. Allmight's weakened form was revealed to the world and he was forced to retire, no longer able to do even token hero work. Villain activity went on the rise almost immediately, as all of the people that kept their heads down because they knew they couldn't ever beat Allmight are preparing to make their big play.

It wasn't the slam-dunk success that killing Allmight would have been, but it was still a victory. Especially since, with his regen quirk, AFO knew he would survive the fight regardless so being put in prison is really just a temporary setback. He has been alive for a century, whether its breaking out himself or getting rescued by the LoV, he's going to be on the streets again before too long, and chaos is going to fester even without him on the board.

It was a plan where he wins even if he loses. Thats a good plan.

He still quirkcs, which are human mutations, he would steal stuff from the xmen not really any of the heavy hitters from DC at all

It's because he's from the Gardner Fox era where mad scientists Professor Ivo, Dr. Destiny, TO Morrow, and Amos Fortune were basically Sivana levels of bullshit. They could build machines that straight up altered reality like a cosmic cube.

Dr. Destiny rebuilt his materiopticon by dreaming it back into existence. As in he fell asleep, dreamed of it, and then there it was.

Aww

How buttblasted would fans be if AFO stole Batman's abilities from him, explained as 'You had the genetic potential to be this level of peak human, and that's what I stole. No amount of experience and training can achieve your level of success without a foundation of natural talent, and now that talent is mine'?

Batman gets downgrade from 'one of the top fighters in the world' and 'worlds best detective' to 'mall karate instructor' and 'good at crossword puzzles' levels of competence.

steals*

Arthur Petrelli but the season he's in isn't completely retarded.

That would work, if I recall quirks are completely biological, he couldn't steal fucking magic, but any bio power is fair game.

He's not supposed to. The original Amazo had "all the powers of every member of the justice league".
So they all resigned, and since the League had no members he lost all his powers.

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the Catforce is always there to save Batman

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Amazo always looked stupid to me

He'd still fucking beat him, it would just be with contingencies he made beforehand.
>"I set this up back when I was smart"

>Superman
>quirk
You realize quirks are a specific mutations right?

Yes. I was so disappointed after first seeing his JL design. Which is boring but at least it's not...that.

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Black Canary actually designed that outfit for him while he was in trophy room storage because she thought him going shirtless was even more stupid.

The Parasite can't grant other people the powers he absorbs.

It seems that his palms need to make contact with their face.

Would AFO be able to steal Flash, FIrestorm or Zatanna's powers?

The simplicity of the DCAU design works though, because Amazo lacks his own identity

No, as he's already dying in the manga he was able to be taken out by assumedly one really strong dude. Its a slow death but he is destined to die (unless ass-pull shit happens). The entire point of his character is making a fucked up protege as a sort of final fuck you to society.

Yeah, but he can't take away that guy's natural arms meaning he can only take stuff that's specific to the quirk mutation/gene.

He could sometimes. He even absorbed people’s memories

He can if he absorbs AFO

>star necklace
cute, I wish he had a tophat or Ollie's Robin Hood hat

I'm pretty sure most magic users would fuck him up.

As i said Hal and Batman

In a fair fight? Probably. Depends on who gets a shot off first, though.

AFO could, for example, blast Zatanna's entire sanctum to gravel from across the street with an air blast. You can't turn a guy into a rabbit if he just straight-up kills you first.

Could she make herself immune to the air blast? Yes, obviously. But only if she knows it is coming and has the time to do it. If AFO gets the shot off first, she's done.

That largely remains true for most magic users.

Isn't that largely what Dr Hurt did by drugging and nearly killing him? He still ended up kerbstomping everyone just as the Batman of Zurenarrh.

The fact that Batman could still do all of the same things even when drugged and crazy means that nothing was actually taken from him, he was just brain-addled.

He can't steal powers that comes from another source, that's why he would do very bad in DC.

I feel like attacking a magic user on their home is one of the worst ideas ever, he'd do better attacking her at one of her shows

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Yep. Not to mention any quirks he brings with him from the MHA Universe might not even work in the DCU, like how the Speedforce doesn't work in the Marvel Universe.

A lot of variables, but in general it's not looking good for him.

Nerd

Their home is where they have the most power and all of their magical materials and implements. I wouldn't want to fight a wizard in his sanctum, but if I can hit-and-run blow up his sanctum and deny the wizard the opportunity to make use of it (with whatever chance there is of getting lucky and killing the wizard at home as well) that seems like a really good opening move.

You don't blow up the sanctum from within, you do it from a safe distance away. Ideally you do it indirectly, like with a remote weapon or a powerful minion, so that if there is some kind of proactive defense you don't put yourself in danger.

I'm fine with AFO not being able to steal most of the powers in DC and only being limited to a small subset of powers that meet the same criteria as quirks, but given all of the stuff that gets a free pass in DC saying that quirks don't work just seems childishly petty.

You realize that most wizards are going to have their sanctums warded, and the only way to blow up a sanctum is to go inside and disable the wards, right?

Mods already told you to fuck off

He'll be completely stomped by ambush bug.

I really liked the concept of "stacking" powers of the same kind to make them better. I mean when he started counting like 12 quirks on that arm only, some of these with repetitions (x4) or shit.

AfO steals Quirks, not superpowers. If he was transported into the DC universe he wouldn't be able to steal superpowers there. He'd still be an absolute beast but it wouldn't be the end of the world.

Imagine being this much of a Carolfag.

Don't for a single moment pretend that, in comics of all things, there is any kind of consistency to how magic works or what mages do with it.

This isn't DnD 3.5 where this is some kind of list of specific spells everyone has to powergame with. The fact that Zatanna doesn't start every morning with the spell "Gnihton dab sneppah yadot" is all the proof you need that you can't expect comicbooks wizards to be smart about how they use it.

So let’s apply this to DC and Marvel. X-Men would probably be the easiest to stack

Looks like a One-shot type of villan as far as DC standards go. Make him wear a clown makeup and we have a 24-issue storyline with 10 crossover events.

So in a supposed 'fair fight', we're just banking on the hopes that magic users have no wards or protection in their magical sanctums?

I feel like he'd have a fair chance. Simply because he isn't an idiot and would probably quickly deduce that everyone has different sources of power in DCU. From there, he goes on a world tour and sucks up meta human powers from the shadows.

Other supers like Superman he ignores, manipulates from the shadows, or sees if some meta has a power to counter him.

Define what 'wards and protections' mean, user. Is this a glorified smoke detector? Does it prevent bad guys from entering? Does it telepathically monitor the thoughts of every human at every point in time and retroactively spawn 10 Outer Gods to eat the soul of someone that tries to harm someone inside the sanctum 5 seconds before they think about doing it?

This is comic book magic, there are no rules to make any kind of educated guess or reasonable theory about. So unless there is a canon, onscreen example of a ward or protection on the sanctum being in place and what its effect would be, there isn't any point in talking about it because it didn't happen.

AfO is a threat not just because he has a ton of stolen powersets, but because he's a smart and competent manipulator with a criminal empire embedded within the very heart of society itself.

Beating him is less taking out the man himself, and more taking out the any and all points where he might've spread his ideals.

Not him but in a Zatanna mini her wards prevented a demon from getting in, but it's unkown if they just keep out things like demons or if they also protect the house from non magical harm. She also owns a magical mansion called shadowcrest that can only be accesed through magic, but it's not where she lives and only goes there to get magical items I guess

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>the power of super powers
>he fights all the Amazos
What happens? And then what happens when he fights the Superman Thought Robot? I have

This is true. AFO is at his most dangerous when you have no idea he exists at all. There is just a crime wave of supervillians that share no obvious connections, and are probably unaware of each other anyway.

Which, in a setting like DC, is so often the case that it would basically require a plot contrivance to get anyone to even START investigating his activity, because AFO's criminal organization could basically hide in plain sight of the chaos of DC's average level of supercrime.

So it's going to take like 3 issues for Batman to find out about him?

Now here’s taking it up a notch. What about Mimic? Given his power gives him both the power and the knowledge of how to use it, who wins out there? And if Mimic wins, is All For One’s power completely lost forever due to Mimic no longer having a source to copy from once his copy of the quirk has stolen the original?

Well, yeah. Obviously. The same sort of writing that results in Batman killing Darkseid with a magic god-killing bullet would make him figuring out who AFO was trivial.

I left room for plot contrivance for a reason. With enough disregard for logic, we can have Harley Quinn beating Galactus with a simple baseball bat in no time.

>Have all the powers
>Lose to the guy whose power is to punch good
What a lame-ass joke character.

More like an entire Event.

Being fair, Batman shot Darkseid with the New God equivalent of kryptonite. And he only got to do that much because of the efforts of everyone else beforehand.

Even then, it took Superman singing to take out Darkseid for full.

I didnt say he was going to kill him (and as always shitters like you who have never read final crisis keep saying he killed darkseid, which he didnt). I said he was going to put the pieces together because that's what he does even when it's not full batwank.
You can add as many plot contrivance you want but saying Batman, or even another of the many DC detectives wouldn't be able to find out is retarded

You look mighty tasty, friend.

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>"Gnihton dab sneppah yadot"
Yeah, because that could easily kill her.

>Ah good. Now that I've stolen Parasite's power stealing power I can power steal powers with TWICE the power.

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What if Zatanna makes him unable to poop?

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the difference is physical strength between dc high tiers and all for one is to much for him to have a shot at stealing their powers, he get beaten the moment superman lands a serious hit

It would take the Question only one.

I remember arguing with my friend that Sylar didn't need to dissect his victims but did so just because.
shit was cash when they confirmed that later in the show

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They confirmed that he did, he needed to see their brains directly.

He did need to see how the brain of the person with powers worked to mimic them, which is pretty bizarre since it's like the brain can just bend the laws of physics by changing chemistry here or there, but COMICS.

he would probably be limited to metahumans powers which reduces how many heroes he could defeat by just turning them into normies. But the character is actually smart so he wouldn't just assault people empty handed, he would wait and nurture for powers to steal for decades before starting his villain job.

wouldn't he get fucked by magic and people with technology-based powers?