July 2019 Comic Book Sales to Comics Shops Estimated Comics Shipped to North American Comics Shops Based on Reports from Diamond Comic Distributors >Items marked with asterisks [*] had their reported orders reduced by 10% due to returnability. >Dollar ranks are in square brackets. >Fused ranks of those with card stock variants are in curly brackets.
July 2019 Graphic Novel Sales to Comics Shops Estimated Graphic Novels and Trade Paperbacks Shipped to North American Comics Shops Based on Reports from Diamond Comic Distributors
> 1. JOKER BLACK LABEL (DC) - 7,117 [2] > 2. BAD WEEKEND HC (IMAGE) - 6,108 [4] > 3. DEADLY CLASS VOL 08 NEVER GO BACK (IMAGE) - 3,581 [15] > 4. THEY CALLED US ENEMY (IDW) - 3,483 [7] > 5. ADVENTURE ZONE VOL 02 MURDER ON ROCKPORT LIMITED (FIRST SECOND) - 3,387 [6] > 6. DEAR JUSTICE LEAGUE (DC) - 3,323 [47] > 7. CONAN THE BARBARIAN VOL 01 LIFE AND DEATH OF CONAN BOOK O (MARVEL) - 3,124 [13] > 8. MILES MORALES VOL 01 STRAIGHT OUT OF BROOKLYN (MARVEL) - 2,965 [19] > 9. DIE DIE DIE VOL 01 (IMAGE) - 2,792 [17] > 10. DAREDEVIL BY CHIP ZDARSKY VOL 01 KNOW FEAR (MARVEL) - 2,683 [28] > 11. DIE VOL 01 FANTASY HEARTBREAKER (IMAGE) - 2,660 [58] > 12. SAVAGE SWORD OF CONAN VOL 01 CULT OF KOGA THUN (MARVEL) - 2,519 [23] > 13. GREEN LANTERN HC VOL 01 INTERGALACTIC LAWMAN (DC) - 2,497 [11] > 14. CONAN THE BARBARIAN ORIGINAL MARVEL YEARS OMNIBUS HC VOL 02 (MARVEL) - 2,430 [1] > 15. MILES MORALES SPIDER-MAN (MARVEL) - 2,401 [50] > 16. PRODIGY VOL 01 (IMAGE) - 2,366 [22] > 17. MONSTRESS HC VOL 01 (IMAGE) - 2,261 [3] > 18. TEEN TITANS RAVEN DC INK (DC) - 2,250 [36] > 19. JUSTICE LEAGUE VOL 03 HAWKWORLD (DC) - 2,233 [31] > 20. IRONHEART VOL 01 THOSE WITH COURAGE (MARVEL) - 2,148 [43] > 21. THANOS BY DONNY CATES HC (MARVEL) - 2,109 [10] > 22. FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD SPIDER-MAN VOL 01 SECRETS AND RUMOR (MARVEL) - 2,078 [38] > 23. LEGEND OF ZELDA TWILIGHT PRINCESS VOL 05 (VIZ) - 2,013 [85] > 24. BOOKS OF MAGIC VOL 01 MOVEABLE TYPE (DC) - 1,980 [45] > 25. MURDER FALCON (IMAGE) - 1,930 [33] > 26. MIRACULOUS TALES LADYBUG CAT NOIR S2 VOL 08 TEAR OF JOY (ACTION LAB) - 1,895 [109] > 27. WILLIAM GIBSON ALIEN 3 HC (DARK HORSE) - 1,867 [32] > 28. MIRACULOUS TALES LADYBUG CAT NOIR S2 VOL 04 NO EVIL DOING (ACTION LAB) - 1,832 [115] > 29. MY HERO ACADEMIA VIGILANTES VOL 05 (VIZ) - 1,802 [96]
Nathaniel Evans
> 30. WONDER WOMAN VOL 09 THE ENEMY OF BOTH SIDES (DC) - 1,779 [41] > 31. MARVEL MONOGRAPH VOL 01 J SCOTT CAMPBELL COMPLETE COVERS (MARVEL) - 1,760 [44] > 32. UMBRELLA ACADEMY VOL 01 APOCALYPSE SUITE (DARK HORSE) - 1,710 [48] > 33. DEADPOOL SKOTTIE YOUNG VOL 02 (MARVEL) - 1,702 [52] > 34. SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN VOL 01 FULL OTTO (MARVEL) - 1,702 [53] > 35. RED HOOD OUTLAW VOL 01 REQUIEM FOR AN ARCHER (DC) - 1,692 [46] > 36. PRINCELESS VOL 08 PRINCESSES (ACTION LAB) - 1,669 [61] > 37. SWAMP THINGS ROOTS OF TERROR DELUXE ED HC (DC) - 1,650 [55] > 38. SILVER SURFER HC PARABLE 30TH ANNIVERSARY ED (MARVEL) - 1,592 [14] > 39. WOLVERINE LONG NIGHT (MARVEL) - 1,570 [72] > 40. HULK WORLD WAR HULK (MARVEL) - 1,567 [34] > 41. HOUSE OF WHISPERS VOL 01 THE POWER DIVIDED (DC) - 1,542 [64] > 42. SPIDER-MAN DEADPOOL VOL 09 EVENTPOOL (MARVEL) - 1,491 [78] > 43. INFINITY GAUNTLET (MARVEL) - 1,463 [42] > 44. IMMORTAL HULK VOL 01 OR IS HE BOTH (MARVEL) - 1,458 [82] > 45. BLACK PANTHER BOOK 07 INTERG EMPIRE WAKANDA PT 2 (MARVEL) - 1,430 [68] > 46. TRIALS OF SHAZAM THE COMPLETE SERIES (DC) - 1,427 [39] > 47. NEW MUTANTS EPIC COLLECTION DEMON BEAR SAGA (MARVEL) - 1,393 [18] > 48. BATMAN WHITE KNIGHT (DC) - 1,370 [59] > 49. BPRD DEVIL YOU KNOW VOL 03 RAGNA ROK (DARK HORSE) - 1,360 [56] > 50. GODZILLA KINGDOM OF MONSTERS (IDW) - 1,343 [24] > 51. LUMBERJANES VOL 12 (BOOM) - 1,308 [89] > 52. X-23 VOL 02 X-ASSASSIN (MARVEL) - 1,302 [81] > 53. BLACK WIDOW NO RESTRAINTS PLAY (MARVEL) - 1,279 [95] > 54. BOYS OMNIBUS VOL 03 (DYNAMITE) - 1,275 [27] > 55. WATCHMEN (DC) - 1,243 [75] > 56. HELLBLAZER VOL 21 THE LAUGHING MAGICIAN (DC) - 1,242 [49] > 57. SAGA VOL 01 (IMAGE) - 1,222 [166] > 58. SONIC THE HEDGEHOG VOL 03 BATTLE FOR ANGEL ISLAND (IDW) - 1,211 [91] > 59. X-MEN EPIC COLLECTION ALWAYS DARKEST BEFORE DAWN (MARVEL) - 1,201 [21] > 60. MAGICIANS ALICE STORY ORIGINAL HC (BOOM) - 1,189 [40] > 61. BATMAN DELUXE ED COLL HC BOOK 04 (DC) - 1,188 [30]
Tyler Taylor
> 62. GREEN ARROW VOL 07 CITIZENS ARREST (DC) - 1,178 [97] > 63. ELEKTRA ASSASSIN (MARVEL) - 1,175 [80] > 64. BRAM STOKERS DRACULA (IDW) - 1,169 [65] > 65. INVADERS VOL 01 WAR GHOSTS (MARVEL) - 1,165 [94] > 66. HELLBOY HC 25 YEARS OF COVERS (DARK HORSE) - 1,163 [26] > 67. RONIN ISLAND VOL 01 PX DISCOVER NOW ED (BOOM) - 1,162 [102] > 68. SANDMAN VOL 10 THE WAKE 30TH ANNIV ED (DC) - 1,157 [79] > 69. OUT OF THE BLUE HC VOL 02 (AFTERSHOCK) - 1,154 [67] > 70. DISNEY DESCENDANTS EVIES WICKED RUNWAY VOL 01 (TOKYOPOP) - 1,144 [100] > 71. BATMAN BEYOND VOL 05 THE FINAL JOKE (DC) - 1,137 [101] > 72. MY HERO ACADEMIA VOL 01 (VIZ) - 1,137 [149] > 73. UMBRELLA ACADEMY VOL 02 DALLAS (DARK HORSE) - 1,116 [92] > 74. MOB PSYCHO 100 VOL 03 (DARK HORSE) - 1,098 [139] > 75. SANDMAN VOL 01 PRELUDES & NOCTURNES 30TH ANNIV ED (DC) - 1,082 [88] > 76. SELF MADE (IMAGE) - 1,040 [119] > 77. KITCHEN (DC) - 1,034 [142] > 78. PAPER GIRLS VOL 01 (IMAGE) - 1,030 [184] > 79. MARVEL MASTERWORKS CAPTAIN AMERICA HC VOL 11 (MARVEL) - 1,006 [9] > 80. MONSTRESS VOL 01 (IMAGE) - 978 [207] > 81. DISNEY DRACULA STARRING MICKEY MOUSE (DARK HORSE) - 972 [171] > 82. STRANGER THINGS VOL 01 OTHER SIDE (DARK HORSE) - 949 [112] > 83. CONAN JEWELS OF GWAHLUR AND OTHER STORIES (MARVEL) - 926 [108] > 84. DISNEY FRANKENSTEIN STARRING DONALD DUCK (DARK HORSE) - 913 [178] > 85. BATMAN THE KILLING JOKE SPECIAL ED HC (DC) - 912 [123] > 86. WITCHER VOL 04 OF FLESH AND FLAME (DARK HORSE) - 888 [118] > 87. GENESIS ONE POPPY GN (Z2) - 885 [69] > 88. BOYS OMNIBUS VOL 01 (DYNAMITE) - 874 [54] > 89. PUNISHER RETURN TO BIG NOTHING (MARVEL) - 874 [90] > 90. DC SUPER HERO GIRLS SEARCH FOR ATLANTIS (DC) - 864 [227] > 91. CRIMSON LOTUS (DARK HORSE) - 846 [111] > 92. TONTA HC LOVE & ROCKETS (FANTAGRAPHICS) - 837 [106] > 93. THOR OF REALMS (MARVEL) - 832 [73] > 94. SAGA VOL 09 (IMAGE) - 825 [153] > 95. ADVENTURES OF X-MEN VOL 01 (MARVEL) - 816 [179] > 96. BATMAN HUSH COMPLETE (DC) - 795 [98]
Colton Cook
> 97. GO GO POWER RANGERS VOL 04 (BOOM) - 792 [130] > 98. IMMORTAL HULK VOL 03 HULK IN HELL (MARVEL) - 791 [152] > 99. X-MEN MILESTONES FALL OF MUTANTS (MARVEL) - 785 [60] > 100. JSA BY GEOFF JOHNS BOOK 03 (DC) - 784 [51] > 101. TOMB OF DRACULA DAY OF BLOOD NIGHT OF REDEMPTION (MARVEL) - 783 [103] > 102. CONS DE FEE EROTIC ART WALLACE WOOD HC (FANTAGRAPHICS) - 780 [25] > 103. STAR WARS ADVENTURES VOL 06 FLIGHT OF FALCON (IDW) - 756 [233] > 104. GUNNING FOR HITS (IMAGE) - 752 [161] > 105. JUGHEAD HUNGER VOL 03 (ARCHIE) - 752 [129] > 106. GRASS KINGS VOL 01 (BOOM) - 747 [131] > 107. MY HERO ACADEMIA VOL 02 (VIZ) - 729 [232] > 108. WONDER WOMAN BY JOHN BYRNE HC VOL 03 (DC) - 720 [57] > 109. BAD GATEWAY HC MEGG & MOGG (FANTAGRAPHICS) - 710 [76] > 110. SIMPSONS COMICS COLOSSAL COMPENDIUM VOL 07 (HARPERCOLLINS) - 694 [126] > 111. SPAWN ORIGINS VOL 01 (IMAGE) - 693 [278] > 112. MISTER MIRACLE (DC) - 687 [116] > 113. HAVOK AND WOLVERINE MELTDOWN (MARVEL) - 684 [120] > 114. STAR WARS LEGENDS EPIC COLLECTION NEWSPAPER STRIPS VOL 02 (MARVEL) - 680 [63] > 115. OVER GARDEN WALL HOLLOW TOWN (BOOM) - 677 [172] > 116. BEASTARS VOL 01 (VIZ) - 674 [194] > 117. CABLE AND X-FORCE OMNIBUS HC (MARVEL) - 666 [12] > 118. X-MEN MILESTONES MUTANT MASSACRE (MARVEL) - 666 [83] > 119. DC POSTER PORTFOLIO STANLEY ARTGERM LAU (DC) - 663 [121] > 120. SCOTT PILGRIM COLOR COLLECTION VOL 01 (ONI) - 663 [87] > 121. ONE PUNCH MAN VOL 01 (VIZ) - 661 [261] > 122. AMAZING SPIDER-MAN BY NICK SPENCER VOL 01 BACK BASICS (MARVEL) - 648 [185] > 123. DC UNIVERSE BRONZE AGE OMNIBUS BY JACK KIRBY HC (DC) - 643 [5] > 124. BAGS OR A STORY THEREOF ORIGINAL GN (BOOM) - 637 [208] > 125. SPIDER-GIRL COMPLETE COLLECTION VOL 02 (MARVEL) - 636 [74] > 126. USAGI YOJIMBO VOL 33 HIDDEN (DARK HORSE) - 625 [167] > 127. GO BOTS VOL 01 (IDW) - 619 [155] > 128. SUPERMAN THE GOLDEN AGE OMNIBUS HC VOL 06 (DC) - 605 [8] > 129. EXTRAORDINARY STORY OF ORDINARY PRINCESS (DARK HORSE) - 593 [246]
Kayden Russell
> 130. ADVENTURE ZONE VOL 01 HERE THERE BE GERBLINS (FIRST SECOND) - 591 [132] > 131. AUTHORITY OMNIBUS HC (DC) - 585 [16] > 132. CIVIL WAR (MARVEL) - 582 [137] > 133. DISNEY DESCENDANTS EVIES WICKED RUNWAY VOL 02 (TOKYOPOP) - 581 [190] > 134. HARROW COUNTY LIBRARY EDITION HC VOL 03 (DARK HORSE) - 573 [84] > 135. SONIC THE HEDGEHOG VOL 01 FALLOUT (IDW) - 573 [182] > 136. DUCKTALES VOL 05 MONSTERS AND MAYHEM (IDW) - 571 [307] > 137. PRINCE VALIANT HC VOL 19 1973-1974 (FANTAGRAPHICS) - 568 [86] > 138. EMILINE KNIGHT IN TRAINING HC (ONI) - 566 [244] > 139. SAGA VOL 02 (IMAGE) - 561 [229] > 140. JIM HENSONS TALE OF SAND (BOOM) - 560 [154] > 141. DECADES MARVEL IN 00S HITTING HEADLINES (MARVEL) - 556 [140] > 142. HELLBOY OMNIBUS VOL 01 SEED OF DESTRUCTION (DARK HORSE) - 553 [148] > 143. STEVEN UNIVERSE VOL 05 FIND A WAY (BOOM) - 552 [209] > 144. DARK NIGHTS METAL (DC) - 543 [176] > 145. BATMAN THE LONG HALLOWEEN (DC) - 541 [144] > 146. VENOM BY DONNY CATES VOL 01 REX (MARVEL) - 540 [198] > 147. MY HERO ACADEMIA VOL 03 (VIZ) - 533 [315] > 148. GIDEON FALLS VOL 01 BLACK BARN (IMAGE) - 528 [393] > 149. SCOTT PILGRIM COLOR COLLECTION VOL 02 (ONI) - 528 [113] > 150. DARK ARK VOL 03 (AFTERSHOCK) - 527 [221] > 151. IMMORTAL HULK VOL 02 GREEN DOOR (MARVEL) - 525 [236] > 152. BEN 10 ORIGINAL FOR SCIENCE (BOOM) - 522 [433] > 153. MARVELS MONSTER-SIZED HC (MARVEL) - 522 [37] > 154. DC SUPER HERO GIRLS OUT OF THE BOTTLE (DC) - 521 [376] > 155. MIDDLEWEST BOOK 01 (IMAGE) - 516 [379] > 156. PRINCELESS VOL 01 (ACTION LAB) - 516 [292] > 157. DARK NIGHTS METAL DARK KNIGHTS RISING (DC) - 514 [151] > 158. LODGER VOL 01 (IDW) - 513 [181] > 159. BOYS OMNIBUS VOL 02 (DYNAMITE) - 511 [114] > 160. VINDICATION (IMAGE) - 510 [314] > 161. MAGUS OF LIBRARY VOL 01 (KODANSHA) - 509 [249] > 162. SCOTT PILGRIM COLOR COLLECTION VOL 03 (ONI) - 508 [117] > 163. SAGA OF THE SWAMP THING BOOK 01 (DC) - 505 [187] > 164. MOORCOCK LIB CORUM HC VOL 03 KING OF THE SWORDS (TITAN) - 504 [128]
Dylan Barnes
> 165. MONSTRESS VOL 03 (IMAGE) - 503 [226] > 166. LETS MAKE RAMEN COMIC BOOK COOKBOOK (TEN SPEED) - 498 [160] > 167. INJUSTICE 2 HC VOL 06 (DC) - 497 [156] > 168. WALKING DEAD VOL 31 (IMAGE) - 495 [240] > 169. ATOMIC ROBO AND DAWN OF NEW ERA VOL 01 (IDW) - 493 [175] > 170. SPIDER-MAN MAXIMUM CARNAGE (MARVEL) - 491 [136] > 171. SCOTT PILGRIM COLOR COLLECTION BOX SET (ONI) - 490 [20] > 172. SPIDER-MAN MILES MORALES VOL 01 (MARVEL) - 487 [264] > 173. TREASURES RETOLD THE LOST ART OF ALEX TOTH HC (IDW) - 481 [62] > 174. SUICIDE SQUAD KATANA THE REVENGE OF COBRA (DC) - 478 [247] > 175. JAMES BOND ORIGIN HC VOL 01 (DYNAMITE) - 477 [147] > 176. SAGA DLX ED HC VOL 03 (IMAGE) - 477 [77] > 177. TANGLED THE SERIES HAIR RAISING ADVENTURES (IDW) - 474 [364] > 178. BERSERK DELUXE EDITION HC VOL 01 (DARK HORSE) - 473 [71] > 179. ISOLA VOL 01 (IMAGE) - 465 [438] > 180. LAGUARDIA (DARK HORSE) - 465 [192] > 181. GOBLIN SLAYER BRAND NEW DAY VOL 01 (YEN) - 460 [266] > 182. DARK KNIGHT RETURNS (DC) - 446 [217] > 183. SAGA VOL 08 (IMAGE) - 445 [294] > 184. SAGA VOL 03 (IMAGE) - 444 [290] > 185. MONSTRESS VOL 02 (IMAGE) - 442 [259] > 186. TO LOVE RU DARKNESS VOL 11 (SEVEN SEAS) - 436 [297] > 187. DISNEY ZOOTOPIA HC HARD DAYS WORK (YOUNGER READERS) (DARK HORSE) - 434 [533] > 188. GRUMBLE VOL 01 YOURE THE DOG NOW MAN (ALBATROSS) - 434 [223] > 189. WEIRDWORLD DRAGONMASTER OF KLARN (MARVEL) - 434 [287] > 190. SPIDER-VERSE (MARVEL) - 433 [93] > 191. CLIVE BARKER GREAT & SECRET SHOW DLX ED (IDW) - 432 [134] > 192. DEADPOOL KILLS MARVEL UNIVERSE (MARVEL) - 432 [311] > 193. SMASHED JUNJI ITO STORY COLLECTION HC (VIZ) - 432 [170] > 194. KIRBY IS MIGHTY KING SIZE HC (MARVEL) - 429 [29] > 195. BLACK CLOVER VOL 16 (VIZ) - 428 [419] > 196. DEADLY CLASS VOL 01 REAGAN YOUTH (IMAGE) - 428 [493] > 197. INCURSION VOL 01 (VALIANT) - 427 [276] > 198. BLADE OF IMMORTAL OMNIBUS VOL 09 (DARK HORSE) - 424 [196] > 199. PAPER GIRLS VOL 02 (IMAGE) - 422 [340]
I had to redo this thread because JJM implemented an extra column in the monthly top comics chart because twenty DC titles published that month, all but one ongoing, have card stock variants priced a dollar higher (his rationale for this: twitter.com/comichron/status/1160929712023179265). The DC card stock variant program is expected to continue until the end of this year.
> 9. IMMORTAL HULK #20 (MARVEL) - 83,059 [9] > 23. IMMORTAL HULK #21 (MARVEL) - 54,333 [25] Look at that drop, what happened
Gavin Allen
Double-shipping, it happens. Also the first one had variants, while the other didn't. Immortal Hulk #22 should stay at the top 10 because it did have variants.
So if we add up those two we should get 32,268. Not bad, I guess doing the card stock variants didn't do much good since it makes the book's sales more lower than what they actually are
Joshua Johnson
Double shipping leads to drops all around for both
Justin White
That's not all, actually: it increased sales compared to last month by about 4K units.
>an eighth issue of a new ongoing is selling 100 more copies than the seventy-fifth issue of an ongoing that is three years old So this is the power of the Carol Corps
Owen Martin
Doctor Strange saw a slight increase of 2K units last month, but still a far cry from even the lowest point of Aaron's run. Also, despite the considerable quality boost from Cates' run, Waid's sells only about 2K in average above the previous (about 6.56% increase, 1.63% if you count the Damnation crossover).
I don't like CM, but Wonder Woman (who's apart of the Trinity and amongst the most iconic superheroes ever) selling that low is shockingly shameful.
Jacob Morgan
All comics sell like shit, welcome to 2019
Mason Long
Guardians of the Galaxy pretty much plateau'd and unless something changes for the better or worse, it likely will stay there. I might chart Silver Surfer and Thanos later during the day, only taking into account the modern runs and minis... If you have any suggestion, let me know.
The industry is basically stagnant since the crash unfortunately
Kevin Johnson
Yeah, 30,000 copies shipped in a country of 350+ million people for a character that almost everyone knows about. What a fantastic success.
Nicholas Jones
>almost everyone
Jaxon Wilson
Seems sales for this will plateau at around 25k, which is decent for a lower tier book. I do hope waid will stay on for the inevitable relaunch, herald supreme will probably be a top 10 arc for me if it sticks the landing
Matthew Rivera
>in a country of 350+ million people What a dumb argument, as if more than a few million read comics in the regular.
Anthony Wilson
Was the hype, dare I say it, killed?
Austin Nelson
The same could be said of a character that headlined a billion dollar movie and was featured heavily in the highest grossing movie of all time.
Austin Turner
So did they go back to selling Batman monthly? 75 is on their twice, I assume it’s because of a variant.
Andrew Sullivan
See Also this month had the card stock variants, which threw the charts off balance. In the adjusted chart, Immortal Hulk #20 drops from 9° to 11° while Batman #75 jumps from 13° to 7°. > 75 is on their twice, I assume it’s because of a variant. The card stock variant, yes. Other titles are also repeated, so you have to look for the (ALL) tag for the actual ranking.
Evan Reyes
So IH is BTFO and Batman is the real winner? Nice.
Ryan Sanchez
The card stock variant also helped said titles jump up a bit, because you've to count both the normal and the card stock variant units together.
Logan Lopez
> {7}. BATMAN #75 (ALL) (DC) - 100,161 > 10. BATMAN #74 (DC) - 78,544 [14] > 13. BATMAN #75 (DC) - 70,252 [11] They should probably start doing those cover things every issue. If this is what their highest selling ongoing is now at.
Andrew Thompson
6 DC, 5 Marvel, and 1 Image. As it always should be.
Nathan Flores
The "IH is good" meme died.
Hunter Morris
>literal reprints selling better than new stuff
Nathaniel Moore
If that's how you wanna read it, sure. But unless they do this in August too, it's just a temporary boost. I'm trying to stay objective here beyond the shitposting but I hardly doubt this is a merit of King's series and more to do with the special variant. Comichron added a column for the "fused" issues so it's easier to look at the big picture.
Shit I didn’t even see 74. I wonder if DC is in panic mode over this. I bet they’ll be willing to give Snyder all the event comics he wants to keep a Bat book over 100k.
Hudson Collins
When the reprints are key issues and cost $1 of course the casuals will jump on
You don’t see random Batman story #122 getting reprinted, you see shit like “the first appearance of bullshit man!”
Charles Rivera
>all kamala books btfo by Domino
Jeremiah Morales
>I-it's temporary!
Kevin Watson
Nah, that logic doesn't hold up because:
1. Captain Marvel isn't ironic. 2. Wonder Woman has a good movie recently that also made a shit ton of cash. 3. Woman Woman has only one current run.
Carson Wood
user, I was trying to be mean-spirited, because I am bitter over my life. Don't shit on my parade
Zachary Hill
>The muties can't surpass Black Cat 255K from the last month. pathetic.jpg
Andrew Hall
Don’t worry user it will get better somehow
Jeremiah Davis
I get you’re shitposting, but the jump in sales doesn’t make much sense when they’ve been declining for a while and the only real thing that’s different now is a variant cover.
Jaxon Wood
I mean, yeah? It's better to compare Immortal Hulk #20 to Batman #74 than it is to compare Immortal Hulk #20 to #75, considering both titles were double-shipped in July. In fact, if you look at the release dates:
>Immortal Hulk #20 (07/03/19) 83,059 >Batman #74 (07/10/19) 78,544 >Batman #75 (All) (07/17/19) 100,161 >Immortal Hulk #21 (07/17/19) 54,333
The second issue of both series during July was released the same week, one had card stock variants on top of the regular ones, while the other had reprint variants that didn't come out that week. And yeah, #20 still beats #74 that had no incentives.
Xavier Richardson
IH #20 had variants, IH #21 did not. Expect another bump because IH #22 had like 8 variants.
Jaxson Harris
I don't know much about comic book sales, but 78.544 for Batman #74 is a bit low, isn't it? I know comic sales are declining in general, but I thought the main Batman book would sell better than that.
Liam Garcia
That's historically around what her sales have been like since the 1990s.
Aiden Hughes
>GWW tanking Wonder Woman to help out Carol nice
Adrian Flores
Based Wilson, another stealth double agent infiltrated in DC.
Angel Gutierrez
Correct, there's a reason why King's leaving the book in December, at least 6 months earlier than planned
Ian Williams
>165. MAGNIFICENT MS. MARVEL #5 (MARVEL) - 13,847 [162] >Kamala still selling less than Royals and Black Bolt did despite tens times more advertising, overshipping, and Kamala being pushed everywhere Sasuga most popular Inhuman
>> {3}. DCEASED #3 (ALL) (DC) - 132,072 >> 5. BATMAN LAST KNIGHT ON EARTH #2 (DC) - 105,012 [4] >> {7}. BATMAN #75 (ALL) (DC) - 100,161 >> 6. BATMAN CURSE OF THE WHITE KNIGHT #1 (DC) - 91,205 [6] >> 7. BATMAN WHO LAUGHS #7 (DC) - 88,012 [7] >> 10. BATMAN #74 (DC) - 78,544 [14] Any given week.
> {95}. NIGHTWING #62 (ALL) (DC) - 25,753 > 148. NIGHTWING #62 (DC) - 15,859 [149] I always thought Nightwing was the unsinkable B-lister. The one not A-list character that no matter who you put on the book. No matter how bland it was for years, and years it would stay pretty high due to residual Dickfag loyalty. I was wrong apparently.
Objectively, Batman is doing fine, why? In the last 5 years, the status quo is the following
50k good sales 30k mediocre sales 20k bad sales 15k cancelation thereshold
What is the problem with Batman? Main Batman is a series that usually is n°1 ir 2 in the charts, with sales over 100k regularly, currently it has a drop of 70k which, while good in terms of general cómics, just for being Batman is considered "bad", especially if a book lile Hulk, which was in the range of 40k-50k before, starts to gain more sales each month
Jaxon Reyes
Who's Dick, user?
Joshua Sanchez
This. DC is finished.
Nicholas Martin
Part of it's also that Synder/Capullo's run was extremely popular even for a Batman run. Every issue was over 100k.
Landon Sanders
Batman sales have a floor, where a certain number of shuffling idiots will empty their pull into polybags no matter what the actual state of the comic is. There's really nothing else in the world of American comics that compares.
Sebastian Watson
ricfag just sounds like a disease "he's got ricfags I'm afraid it's terminal".
Josiah Ortiz
Miles is still at 27k nearly twice her numbers. 13k would require her make up a more in trades than she ever has.
Camden Reyes
>I always thought Nightwing was the unsinkable B-lister
Was WW ever really a cash cow? And her movie is three years old user, Carol was the headliner in a billion dollar movie not even a six months ago and a major player in the highest grossing film of all time three months ago. Is it sad that a character as complicated and historically problematic as Carol is outselling the paragon of Female superheros? Kinda, but its just indicative of the how shitty Carols fan base is that you're so vindictive about such a small victory
Jonathan Jenkins
Wonder Woman is just another golden-ager with tenure, like Aquaman. They could both be selling sub 10k and at worst they'd just start renumbering with the same "fightan Ares/Circe/Cheetah" mytho-shit.
Robert Wood
As I said, I'm not an expert. I do remember talking to someone who did have more experience who said that Batman needs to stay way above every other comic on the market at all times to finance dc titles that sell less though.
Dominic Ortiz
>but its just indicative of the how shitty Carols fan base is that you're so vindictive about such a small victory If it were the opposite, you'd be celebrating.
Josiah Roberts
Fucking this
Wyatt Sanders
The trades meme is ending. Scholastic is ending the Marvel trades. Even Moon Girl is getting ending at #47.
Christopher Young
>Batman is literally the one who is carrying DC, but people still bitch about him If DC was smart, they would have cancelled everything and foucs only on Batman.
Luke King
if I'm reading this right, isn't the lowest point in aaron's run (#26) around the same as the current sales?
still, shame it isn't doing better than aaronshit, but that had the movie to help I suppose
Ryder Cruz
Batman still needs other heroes to intimidate and be smugly superior to.
Lucas Cooper
Give the industry another decade to collapse some more and it'll happen.
Logan Williams
The lowest point of the run was at #26 with 24,001 units, and yes, it's slightly lower as the average sales of Waid's run (30K). It should be noted that "Aaron's run" was a mess of writers near the end, his last proper issue was #20 and the rest were filled in by Hopeless and Barber, yet still constitute the same volume. At #20 it was selling 31K though, so that's still higher than its current numbers.
Adrian Price
If it were the opposite no one would say anything
Caleb Wilson
>Give the industry another decade to collapse some more and it'll happen. You said that last decade already
Connor Clark
That's, literally, the meme. DC is a joke because of all the Batwank already.
Matthew Thomas
So what happens if DC actually get bought by Disney?
Zachary Sanchez
The numbers of King are good numbers. The only person who can bring up the number is Snyder/Capullo.
Brody James
Yoshida isn't let books live on trades anymore. That was the entire point of Iceman writer's rant. That's why Champions got canned before its first trade came out despite also having good trades last volume.
Jack Foster
'tis true. If they ever dip below 70K, though? Worry. >That's why Champions got canned before its first trade came out despite also having good trades last volume. But you know this is bullshit, right? Because if it's selling decently in a format, it should be given a chance.
Benjamin Edwards
Nothing but good things at this point.
Anthony Mitchell
delicious butthurt
Adrian Rogers
Does WB have any DC park rides anywhere? Six Flags, etc? Because that's where a lot of the money is.
Brody Reed
What if Disney buy AT&T? I don't know what you can do at that point. Pray?
X-fags. That user was bullshitting you. Batman as a brand is the most important asset of DC comics? Correct, see all Batman related books in the first 20 positions. One comic is the responsible of the finances of DC? No, and let me laugh of your gullibility.
Tyler Flores
And look where we are now.
Jaxon Bell
With 300mil more market value than a decade ago?
Joshua Hall
What did the last Carol #38 sell? That's the issue that WW would be on if it wasn't twice a month
Thomas Gomez
Speculators cucks buying shit they don't read
Adam Collins
That big Hulk schlong still hurts, eh.
Juan Sullivan
Kek, the popularity give them a temporary boost before the numbers become far worse than before. You are kidding yourself if you think they are doing ok when there are talks about ending both of DC and Marvel.
Michael Lee
Immortal hulk is bimonthly?
Brayden Morris
The good thing is that Disney seems to have no ambitions to become a telecom company. They are 100% focused on entertainment.
Jacob Butler
18 issues a year, some months it double-ships while others (like August) have only one issue.
Ryder White
I think it's 18/year?
Ian Clark
Lat time carol was on 38 was the only time she ever hit that number in a single run.
Landon Hughes
>the popularity +of movies
David Stewart
Marvel stopped supporting it with variants and overshipping out of the ass. Yea Forums is going to blame double shipping even though they've been giddy about Hulk beating Batman for months even though that double ships
Jace Ortiz
Nice, I'm picking up the directors cut f issue one wednesday and I'm getting the trades. I'm starting hulk from the beginning after. So its hulk then he takes over the numbering of tales to astonish?
Carson Murphy
>when there are talks about ending both DC and Marvel user...how new are you? There are talks about ending both DC and Marvel every fucking year for the last three goddamn decades. It’s a constant crying wolf shit that’s really fucking tiring after a while
And no, there is no temporary boost, and the numbers are not worse than before compared to a decade ago, I don’t need to kid myself to see that. I know you really want the industry to crash (and believe me, I do too, fuck floppies), but it isn’t happening in the next decade no matter how we look at it
Evan Hughes
>overshipping Don’t use terms you don’t understand, dollar and units are the same for hulk #20, meaning no overshipping took place. An example of overshipping is sword master
Caleb Morgan
>{3}. DCEASED #3 (ALL) (DC) - 132,072 > 14. DCEASED #3 (DC) - 68,787 [12] So this is the real #1. When was the last time an out of canon mini sold this well?
Luis Sullivan
>Last three decades >90's 00's and today
How do I go back bros? I'm done with this timeline
Noah Morris
>Marvel stopped supporting it with variants and overshipping out of the ass. This is a lie, they do not overship Immortal Hulk, and it was literally a single issue that had less variants than the previous (#21). >Yea Forums is going to blame double shipping But that's what it is about... It has happened before too, one issue has high sales while the other has more "regular" but still high sales.
Double ship >Immortal Hulk #17 87,444 >Immortal Hulk #18 75,983
Single ship >Immortal Hulk #19 88,100
Double ship >Immortal Hulk #20 83,059 >Immortal Hulk #21 54,333
I know you're desperate to find a flaw, but it's a simple pattern that still signals to good sales. Next month is gonna be at 80K again.
Aiden Smith
DKIII?
Sebastian Kelly
Ah no I see where I fucked up here. It said (all)
Asher Hill
>> {114}. RED HOOD OUTLAW #36 (ALL) (DC) - 21,308 Well, looks like we're back into the right path.
#21 didn't have any variants, unlike #20 which had 2 (plus the reprint that comes out in August 19th). The only variant it has is the reprint, which will come out later this month.
> {114}. RED HOOD OUTLAW #36 (ALL) (DC) - 21,308 > 180. RED HOOD OUTLAW #36 (DC) - 12,120 [186] It'll probably stick at around 19,000 next issue. Even RedArse at it's lowest didn't go much lower than that.
Justin Stewart
1 + reprint variant each, according to PreviewsWorld. #16, the one where the sales bump happened, has 3 variants plus an upcoming one in September.
Jace Barnes
Ok, so ~10k of the drop is the double shipping and ~20k is the lack of variants.
Brandon James
Kamala's popularity was already down by the end of her last run but they made it worst by double dowing and giving her several books at once. They need to let her cool off.
Julian Gomez
How does it feel to jerk yourself raw every time new Batwank comes out so many times a month?
David Harris
>entertainment
Carter Roberts
Yeah, it's weird that the annual sold lower than 15k even.
Michael Evans
Oh, I guess. Was July's variant a big puller?
Liam Bailey
Dick has been even more emasculated then Batman in recent years. cuck writers turning a once cool character into a wimp and joke to push feminism
Push feminism? What? Considering the current series has a man leading the group of replacements, what feminism? Or did you forget your meds again
Charles Diaz
I take old sexy starfire in her bikini from the original run any day
Anthony Nguyen
90% is literally just a childrens book called dog man. batman and spider-man are selling really badly
Zachary Walker
Fine, going by direct market alone it’s a $90 million dollar increase instead, which is around a 25% increase from a decade ago
Also, it’s not 90% and even so kids comics are and should be part of the industry
Gabriel Anderson
sales are down and dollar sales increase is below inflation
Noah Baker
He always posts the same shit every time he can about any series. Look out for "emasculation, feminism, cuckold, censorship, modern writers", it never fails.
Levi Adams
Cates' GOTG might be terrible, but there's nothing "sjw" about it.
Gabriel Rivera
>Look out for "emasculation, feminism, cuckold, censorship, modern writers Look out for 90% of the threads on this website?
Wyatt Miller
Inflation is an afterthought when it comes to taking into account revenue unless it’s hyperinflation or deflation. Seriously I know you want the industry to crash so bad but it’s just really goddamn stagnant and boring
Dylan Roberts
More educated people with access to the data who have analyzed it and followed the trends have said that, at worst, the market is stagnant because of slow growth, but even then the trend is positive and there's definitely a substantial increase this decade. comicsbeat.com/tilting-at-windmills-274-looking-at-bookscan-for-2018/ And this is the trade market, not even the direct market.
Julian Jones
Well, to be honest, it's a last week release, so maybe those aren't the whole numbers.
Connor Ramirez
>12. AERO #1 (MARVEL) - 71,704 [19] "B-B-B-UT people are to scared to read to stories of new heroes" they said
Ryder White
>> 80. INVADERS #7 (MARVEL) - 28,668 [156] Damn, this must have been overshipped. Rank 80 in unit numbers, but 156 in dollar value? Ouch
Hudson Clark
>12. AERO #1 (MARVEL) - 71,704 [19] Damn Aero is not nearly as overshipped as I thought it would be. Probably still made 60k. That's a better start than anything else from Agents of Atlas. Poor Swordmaster isn't even close with the shipping abuse.
Angel Flores
You dont know how this works do you? It's going to collapse next issue
Camden Gomez
See the diference between the position in "units" vs "dollars"? That means overshipping.
Austin Sullivan
Kek, that's not how it's work.
These numbers are based on pre-orders which happens a month at least before the release.
>the trend is positive and there's definitely a substantial increase You didn't even read the shit you linked to you colossal faggot. Bookscan is counting Dogman and other such as "graphic novels" and that's where the "growth" is coming from ( image related taken from said link you didn't read ).
Not him but the fact that kids comics sell so well makes me happy. DC, MARVEL and Diamond can go rot
Jaxson Reed
That wasn't overshipping. They had a $0.25 issue that counted in those stats, but wasn't allowed to be on the actual rankings because it was considered "promotional." They could have sold like 600,000 copies towards unit share, but each issue counts as a 16th of a regular issue price
Jose Evans
>GL’s dropping 1k in sales every two months This fucking sucks man. Since this is the only book I buy from DC anymore.
>>GL’s dropping 1k in sales every two months That's not even bad
Jayden Brooks
>> {122}. HAWKMAN #14 (ALL) (DC) - 19,934 Literally all that matters. I hope Hawkman goes for another 50 issues
Ethan Fisher
Yeah, the book is extremely stable At this rate issue 12 should sell ~40k and then the relaunch will shoot the numbers up again
Anthony James
Could the possible demise of DC end all comics, Marvel included? Discuss.
Julian Cruz
House of X and Powers of X running bi-weekly means they'll be over before retailers can adjust orders to what they're actually selling. Marvel launching 6 ongoing books out of this is still a big risk when you look at how bad every X-book except UXM was selling before Hickman.
Jack Rivera
Prediction: X-men ends up ~60k, New Mutants ~35k, Mauraders and X-Force ~25k and the rest in the teens/cancelled quickly.
Adrian Myers
>New Mutants ~35k Careful with this prediction, the first arc will be written by Hickman. Unless you mean in the long run.
Luke Lopez
>You dont know how this works do you? It's going to collapse next issue Even if her sales don't continue to soar, Aero should be able stay afloat for a while.
What matters isn't how the early issues sell, it's how they're selling by #6-12. If they can't keep most of those books over 50K they need to start questioning why X-Men needs to be a franchise and not just focus on doing one book well.
Jonathan Murphy
Yeah, these predictions are for issue 8ish on.
50k for all them is unrealistic , only 10 long run books did that this month
Jose Richardson
> 31. GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY #7 (MARVEL) - 46,402 [45] This comic is so garbage but I guess Cates has people that will buy his shit no matter what.
Jackson Barnes
>No returnability >at #8 >Only doing slightly better than a #75 Fucking shameful.
Brody Martinez
Yeah selling worst than fucking Black Cat and Invisible Woman.
Eli Gutierrez
>Only doing slightly better than a #75 More like Wonder Woman, with the card stock gimmick propping up sales for every big DC title, couldn't get past Captain Marvel. But it's OK!
>Black Cat Several variant covers >Invisible Woman #1, and heavily overshipped: >15° [60 in dollars/unit]
Let it be known that I don't give a shit about this and I find it really petty (specially since the difference is minimal), it's just that pretending one doesn't sell or that the other isn't a steady seller despite dipping below the average is really dumb, specially since shitposters don't care about the data.
Nathaniel Thompson
Hope this is true.
Gavin Brown
>Yea Forums hates Cates now Wonder when they’ll turn on Ewing and Hickman next.
Probably not anytime soon, Ewing has always been well received on Yea Forums and its current popularity has been long overdue. Hickman regularly has its fair share of haters, if you haven't noticed... Cates was already getting skeptics since he started with Thanos, I can assure you this isn't anything new.
Jackson Thompson
Ewing sucks, he's full on SJW. The last issue of IH had more tranny acceptance shit. Hickman has always been cancer too.
James King
>Yea Forums hates Cates now >now Everybody hated his Death of Inhumans, Cosmic Ghost Rider and Venom since the start. This is nothing new.
Samuel Turner
>Ewing sucks, he's full on SJW. The last issue of IH had more tranny acceptance shit. LMAO keep seething.
Batman and superman merch outsell anything marvel has. Secondly Disney has lost money in the last quarter and their stock has taken a hit for it.
They have no more money to buy more companies. If galaxies edge and their streaming service flops, they will have to sell some of their ip.
Brandon Williams
Oh fuck off boomer
Caleb Edwards
>galaxies edge It's not flopping, they just controlled the crowds too well. Once the AP blackout dates end in the next few weeks and it opens in Orlando we can reassess if it's flopping. And once Rise of the Resistance opens
Cooper Moore
>Batman and superman merch outsell anything marvel has
lmao and Spiderman does leagues better than them
Daniel King
How ancient are you?
Juan Bailey
>It's not flopping, they just controlled the crowds too well. This is just untrue
Cooper Price
Idk I like Cosmic Ghost rider in it
Nolan Garcia
I expected Batman sales would rise again after #75. It’s the climax of King’s run, and he frequently said something big would happen.
Grayson Gutierrez
>> 39. VALKYRIE JANE FOSTER #1 (MARVEL) - 42,948 [56] First issue, only 39th If it was titled "Thor" it would be in the Top 10. When she was Thor, completist idiots kept purchasing the title while crying about evil female stealing their toys. Now that she is not Thor anymore, feminist hypocrites are losing interest because she is not stealing the name of an iconic male character anymore.
Joseph Jackson
He always says something big will happen, something that will make up for all the stuff people don't like about his run. Then the promised issue arrives, people still don't like it and he promises that the next milestone will make up for it. You didn't like 50? Buy 75, you will love it! Reception wasn't as good as expected? Wait for 85 or better, buy the entire Batman/Catwoman series! He promises everyone will love what he did to Batman when it's finished!
He's trying to sell his story. Of course he talks big. Doesn't mean it's going to be good.
Zachary Smith
>Falling for Tom Cucks lies again What a brainlet
Michael Davis
Yea Forums in it's own delusion is now thinking that everybody who doesn't like sjws is the same person. It honestly is kinda said how much social justice has metaled peoples brain. It's very similar to cult thinking.
Easton Carter
lol, hope the retailers are going to get a refund from DC, otherwise they'll have some fuel for their fireplace this winter.
Sebastian Peterson
Pretty easy to explain, Diamonds report the units shipped, not the units sold. We already had the sales report for the month of July, which Hulk ended up on top. This list just show DC's habit to overship their stuff.
Hudson Fisher
I believe non-feminist girls prefer seeing cool male heroes to these feminist icons.
Christian Murphy
You mean the people who buy comics don't want SJW shit?
Jacob Clark
Bat/Cat will sell better than regular Batman series. Majority love their romance and hope they would marry in Bat/Cat maxi.
Ayden Wilson
>> 10. BATMAN #74 (DC) - 78,544 [14] OH NO NO NO NO NO!
Leo Price
>yfw Bendis writes Batman too
Jeremiah Bailey
?
Logan Ross
>I'm Batman >Batman? The Dark Knight? That Batman? >Yes. The Caped Crusader. >The Caped Crusader? Like, a vigilante? >Yes, a vigilante >So you're Batman >I'm Batman
Joshua Cox
>The trades meme is ending. So is the digital sales meme.
my two little sisters only watch that ladybug show because of the blond boy character so you might be on to something.
Joshua Moore
What a coincidence I also lust after him.
Charles Lee
>despite also having good trades last volume. you are just being your own political views on "diversity" cloud what counts as actual good trade sales
Gavin Martin
they want me to cosplay as him and go to comic con next year with them. my older sister even said she would make his costume I don't want to but my sisters are really cute and bugging me :-/
Levi Nelson
Pot calling the kettle black
Noah Evans
if you think something like 4k are good sales then you are just being delusional. indie comics with original ips and zero marketing break that easily
>What if Disney buy AT&T? Disney would own DC, Warner bros, Cartoon Network, HBO, Ellation, VRV, Rooster Teeth and Crunchyroll. If gov doesn't step in then we would all be truly fucked.
Mason Cruz
>DC, Warner bros, Cartoon Network, HBO >we would be truly fucked
They can't make any of this even more shitty than they alread are.
Sebastian Reed
but she is stealing the name of an iconic female character though
I was kinda hoping that moon girl would get to 51 so she would be another female hero to beat carols top issue count, but it is what it is. It's not like any of them are ever gonna get close to my girl mayday though
Easton Ramirez
Who doesn't watch Ladybug because of Cat Noir, user?
Jack Lewis
Wouldn't that attempt against the anti-monopoly laws? They would own like the 75% of the market in the industry. In many industries, actually.
somebody should tell the writers and give Noir more to do in that case besides getting saved.
Andrew Brooks
how much does the cheapest version of god king cost?
Owen Nelson
Well of course you do. Cates still wasted a whole arc in a wet fart of a story full of glaring issues, from beginning to end. I really damn hope he only writes two arcs, gets bored and sticks to his Venom OCs instead.
>88. YOUNG JUSTICE #7 (DC) - 26,777 [89] So much for Tim and Conner having fans.
Jack Harris
>the heat death of a neutron star Cowboy Bebop at his computer.jpg
Camden Nguyen
Lmao, this guy is really grasping for validation
Jonathan Campbell
Well honestly the problem is Bendis just removed Conners niche, what is the point of aging jon up if he was just going to bring Conner back. It would've been cool to see a superman book of all three of them dealing with their generation divide
I am a fan of them but I can't stomach the new female characters in it. just more sjw pandering
Thomas Sullivan
Jon having an older brother/uncle could have been fun. Now they are the same age and both call themselves Superboy. That and Tim calling himself Robin again while Damian is still around makes this whole situation kind of akward. I don't get what made Bendis and DC think this was a good idea.
Jose Johnson
So where is the 'profitable' line drawn here ? I have a hard time seeing something selling less than 5,000 can be profitable, but I don't really know the economics of comics.
Caleb Powell
Its because Bendis doesn't give a fuck about canon or making sense, and I wouldn't be surprised if he only did it to "justify" not ever giving Miles another name despite him being in 616 for 5 years with the real spider-man
Adrian Stewart
This is the current rule of thumb , although that only applies to Big Two. Indie series can coast off smaller sales because the budget is much lower and they can set their own deadlines, so they aren't expected to cover a specific margin. There are some exceptions like miniseries and series tailored for younger audiences that don't do well in the direct market but can survive through trades, which is basically how Moon Girl and Squirrel Girl are still around.
Daniel Martinez
I know Bendis doesn't give a fuck, but you would hope DC would put a little more thought into it. I guess it's true that editorial is just asleep at the wheel right now. Everything feels so disjointed.
Brayden Brown
>how much does the cheapest version of god king cost? price - backers $25 - 3103 $25 - 991 $45 - 388 $100 - 194
ships in Sept. his older books shipped despite Yea Forums ranting for months that they would not.
Nolan Brown
considering the highest selling comic only cost 15$ it's even more impressive
Dominic Butler
>his older books shipped despite Yea Forums ranting for months that they would not. Nah in all fairness that was more about EVS than Meyer, which btw still hasn't shipped the frog comic. People know Meyer shipped Jawbreakers and the terrible b/w comic, and also know the alleged "pro" has been taking an eternity drawing 40 pages but still extends his goal every month or so.
Elijah Evans
Around 2007 if your comic didn't sell more then 40k issues at DC you didn't get royalties, No wonder if that number has been reduced due to continued decline in overall comic sales but I doubt any writer who doesn't sell more then 40k issues is getting payed that well.
Brody Martinez
Thanks user!
Jacob Gray
>50k good sales only if the character you are writing about isn't called Spider-Man, Batman or Wolverine
Josiah Fisher
We'e talking averages here though, if you look at the list, anything above 50K is either #1s, specific A-listers or events.
Isaac Rogers
>how Moon Girl and Squirrel Girl are still around. only reason why does comic is around is because of marvel being to cucked to cancel a comic staring a girl
Easton Allen
I think the industry assumes that having editors is racist. Come on having to adhere to plot and characters previously established is not what Bendis does, he just barrels over everything and is given whatever he wants in return
Jordan Diaz
>Hulk is now considered an A-lister Feels good, man.
Hudson Smith
I am just saying if you are writing for a Batman or Spider-Man series and you don't manage to break 50k you get replaced and the series a relaunch. So those numbers can't be considered good for those characters.
Gavin Jones
>but I doubt any writer who doesn't sell more then 40k issues is getting payed that well. Sounds like comics is not a good career move these days. Particularly if you are a writer, as I assume artists are paid more ?
Adrian Davis
Names draw user. Just look at X-book, Iconic characters that everyone knows. Sales fall apart anytime the title isn't x-something.
Jonathan Wood
>getting into the top 10 because the competition is performing worse then ever before a hollow victory if I have ever seen one
Brayden Fisher
>marvel being to cucked to cancel a comic staring a girl That must be why She-Hulk, Hellcat, and American Chavez still have ongoings
Oh wait...
Carter Sullivan
And yet they cancelled Wasp not once but twice. But go ahead and ignore that, will you. Not so, because it's not like Meyer or his "company" release graphic novels every other month, he took several months to create that single one and he's still going for the "backers" numbers, not actual units shipped. I bet he won't ship these 5K at once either. If you look at the list every other month you can see the occasional Image or indie book outselling big two or getting into the list. Yeah of course, that's only an unspoken rule for these characters, but any series that sells around the 40-50K range is doing great.
Zachary Evans
Hulk will keep smiling and threatening to do something terrible and you will keep seething.
Aaron Campbell
if anything they get payed even worse because marvel and dc always switch between a handful of artists. You are never full time employed as an artist instead you always have to look for new work all the time.. If you are good artists the real money is in either selling cheesecake pin up covers or just skipping marvel and dc altogether and going independent. The best payed artists are all exclusively on patreon and draw softcore or straight up porn of disney and supehero characters.
Carson Hernandez
EVS is treating it like his magnum opus. he is doing way more than 40pgs because he added a lot more and redid an old book, then decided to launch more fundraisers with perks like foil trading cards and a Chromium cover with a bunch of other shit too.
I think he finished all the artwork a while ago, now he is busy putting all the merch and perks together.
I'm guessing Doug TenNapel and his Earthworm Jim comic made him feel inadequate. (Gold Gilded edges, Gold Foil on the cover and a bunch of other shit.)
> {86}. TEEN TITANS #32 (ALL) (DC) - 27,905 > 88. YOUNG JUSTICE #7 (DC) - 26,777 [89] Damain Wayne books sell good.
Nolan Rodriguez
>88. YOUNG JUSTICE #7 (DC) - 26,777 [89] Jon died for this. Conner and Tim are Cancer.
Charles Morgan
>Not so, because it's not like Meyer or his "company" release graphic novels every other month, he took several months to create that single one and he's still going for the "backers" numbers, not actual units shipped. I bet he won't ship these 5K at once either. >If you look at the list every other month you can see the occasional Image or indie book outselling big two or getting into the list. you are an idiot. Spencer or King don't release a graphic novel each month either. When they do release a collection of the most recent issues they don't sell more much more then 3k either as well.
Christian Peterson
>You are never full time employed as an artist instead you always have to look for new work all the time.. That's just plain not true. Multiple artists are on contract, meaning they will always get work as long as their contract ends
Jeremiah Cox
Why does some nobody marine with zero prior experience in making comic books trigger sjw so much? Actually cut that, how do his nobody characters manage to outsell most of DC and Marvel character?
Nathan Morris
>Actually cut that, how do his nobody characters manage to outsell most of DC and Marvel character? Did it though? Backers are a one-time sell, and even shit like Wasp sells better volume by volume
Hudson Stewart
>{86}. TEEN TITANS #32 (ALL) (DC) - 27,905 > >88. YOUNG JUSTICE #7 (DC) - 26,777 [89] It's funny how Bendis succeeded in making people here really hate Tim Drake and Conner Bendis Kent.
David Davis
only if you have good connections or the "right" skin color / gender. The art at the big two has become so bad over the years thanks to them no longer actually hiring people based on merit. Also them telling artists to censor themselves also further decreased the quality of art
Kayden Wright
We all deserve better than Bendis and Batcat.
Jose Jackson
>Wasp sells better volume by volume post the last wasp volume sale numbers then. God King already outsold characters like miles. >Backers are a one-time sell Didn't he already have 3 successful kickstarter campaigns that all made managed to make more then 100k dollars?
Gavin Gray
>only if you have good connections or the "right" skin color / gender. You're insane. Like legitimately insane. The latest guy who publicly got a contract was greg capullo, a white male
Connor Harris
>you are an idiot. Spencer or King don't release a graphic novel each month either. You're right, they released single issues once per month, so it's definitely still not comparable. >When they do release a collection of the most recent issues they don't sell more much more then 3k either as well. Funny because every other month they still sell way more singles than any imbecile in CG, over 30K minimum (and we know both of them sell in the 70's anyway). >Why does some nobody marine with zero prior experience in making comic books trigger sjw so much? Nobody is "triggered" inasmuch as he's been a recurrent joke over and over. Unless you think getting triggered means replying at all to his antics, in which case yeah, a lot of people are "triggered" by his idiocy. Just look at him trying to be relevant by comparing himself to the big leagues. Also no, none of his characters outsell any of the big two characters. Squirrel Girl on any given day outsells him, hell, Ironheart does, which is funny given how he was legit "triggered" that a black woman got to write her.
Brayden Mitchell
It's normal for an ongoing like Teen Titans to sell less as time goes on, but YJ losing readers so fast is suprising. I thought it sold a lot in the beginning?
Caleb Nguyen
TEEN TITANS is actually one of DC's best sellers.
Kayden Murphy
>God King already outsold characters like miles. Also not true, lmao
Miles sells 30k consistently
Luis Moore
We deserve nothing, for we have rejected the grace of God and SPAT in Jesus' face when he offered us salvation.
Nolan Rodriguez
DC has treatened the readers for months with the "Bendis is Coming" phrase. Congratulations, the readers are officially scared, DC.
Brody Morales
Wasp sells around 5-7k per issue, so definitely higher
Lucas Kelly
not his floppy, his trades you fucking idiot. God King isn't a 24 page issue. It a graphic novel with several hundreds of pages.
David White
He doesn't sell just trades though, what the fuck kinda comparison is this lmao
Oliver Turner
>Miles sells 30k consistently Miles has hasn't managed to break 30k for months now. Also you are confusing single issues with trades
Daniel Davis
Jawbreakers does however and still ends up making more money
Isaiah Gray
lmao what's the point of comparing trades only when single issues both sells more and makes more money in the end
does it?
Jaxon King
They'll shill his "250th" issue soon so that'll probably push him into the top ten for a month. His hendreth issue is also coming soon to (you know if you remove all of the ultimat peters issues that ae tangentially related to his story, yet still not HIS stories from the ultimate universe) I wonder if they'll push that as an anniversary issue
Hunter Ortiz
Just how? What sorta metric are you using here? Just going by single issues, in average Miles Morales has sold 25000 per month, at #8 they have shipped 200K which amount to a literal $1MM without factoring trade sales, which would add 47K to the total. And that's only rounding up the numbers because he's sold more than 25K every month, which means $125K every single month.
I mean, seriously... Meyer would kill for these numbers.
Michael Phillips
>he took several months to create that single one
The power of autism and spite. He said he wanted to make a batman comic once the copyright expires but then some lawyers said DC still has trademarks and you only get to use the expired old stuff.
1 boomer autist with a cellphone vs IPs backed by major companies with decades of brand recognition. add in the fact that comic sites have a code of silence as to not give him press. >Just look at him trying to be relevant But he is relevant. >he was legit "triggered" that a black woman got to write her. then he read the comic and praised her for doing a good job, why are you still assmad about something that happened almost a year ago?
>does it? yes, Meyer is a cheap fuck who pinches every penny.
>Meyer would kill for these numbers. Meyer doesn't have the overhead costs that Marvel Comics does, the fucking guy is living at his friends house and snagging cheap new talent.
Evan Brooks
>want to get back into capeshit >remember how bad the writing has been >know they'll just reboot it in a year anyway What capeshit do you recommend someone who has been constantly hurt and continues to hurt themselves with their shitty comics
Adam James
>But he is relevant. Meyers, take your meds and go to bed
Brayden Perry
>yes, Meyer is a cheap fuck who pinches every penny. You literally cannot out-jew Ike, it's impossible. >Meyer doesn't have the overhead costs that Marvel Comics does Unless the overhead costs are insane, no Miles still makes more
William Myers
>Meyer doesn't have the overhead costs that Marvel Comics does, If anything it's cheaper for Marvel to make these, because they can offload printing costs unlike Meyer. So no, those are still much higher numbers every month, on a single series, that don't compare at all with the stuff Meyer would receive. Printing costs alone cut about half of his earnings. Also this is sad, why would you go on a board and defend him so hard? Is he above criticism now? Sad.
Wyatt Cox
Why are you asking here? Go search up reviews or just read for free to see what kind of stuff you like. HoX/PoX is pretty easy to get into and Hickman is staying around for the long run
>Also this is sad, why would you go on a board and defend him so hard? Is he above criticism now? Sad. Fool, he IS meyers
Wyatt Edwards
Read Immortal Hulk.
Benjamin Campbell
>Go search up reviews >look up people who LIKE modern cape comics ??? >HoX/PoX Is this the X-Men are evil again thing I just want the X-Men to be heroes again, why am I cursed? Thanks
Eli Brooks
>>look up people who LIKE modern cape comics You don't have to listen to their opinions, but they do give enough information about the content to figure it out yourself >Is this the X-Men are evil again thing No. Unless you think cyclops did anything wrong, which in this case you should off yourself
Lincoln Gray
>Is this the X-Men are evil again thing They're not evil, not remotely. Also it's barely 3 issues in so most people don't know much of what's going on... Stop skimming and read it, it's good. >Thanks That was a troll.
Anthony Anderson
>Unless you think cyclops did anything wrong I'm more talking about how he was attacked by the avengers and put in jail and how people in universe think he is worse than Hate-Monger
Leo Jones
>I'm more talking about how he was attacked by the avengers and put in jail and how people in universe think he is worse than Hate-Monger Good, you would be fine with how the X-men are shown in HoX/PoX then if you think that he was right all along
Aiden Walker
>They're not evil They weren't evil last time but they still were the punching bag last time. >if you think Is this really a debate? He was in the right 100%, who argues otherwise? 13 year old Avengers fanboys?
Gabriel Allen
>Is this really a debate? Retards exist, so of course
Hunter Hernandez
>why would you go on a board and defend him so hard >defend and where did I do that? All I said was that he is making bank and has some solid numbers for an indie.
>That was a troll. Technically both are capeshit.
Cameron Diaz
Cyclops was not right and the Avengers did nothing wrong.
Jace Wood
>All I said was that he is making bank and has some solid numbers for an indie. No, that's not all you said, you actually came here and pretended we were "triggered" by him because the guy made his own comics and that he was "just a guy on a cellphone", which is the typical tactic to dismiss all criticism launched against him. It's disingenuous at best, if he wants to play in the big leagues then he should accept that people won't like his shit beyond "hurr durr he's anti-SJW".
Andrew Ross
MHA is green naruto but somehow worse, it's not capeshit although it tries so hard to be
Austin Perez
>pretended we were "triggered" by him I said the pros where triggered by him even though hes just 1 autist... are you a pro?
The only thing I accused Yea Forums of doing was saying that his older books would never come out. >to dismiss all criticism launched against him. What criticism has been posted and dismissed using that in this thread? >accept that people won't like his shit You should accept that I never said otherwise.
Carter Williams
And there you are, doing it again, deflecting all over and pretending it's something else. Not bothering, but have a pity (You) with a sage.
Daniel Garcia
Proof? You know you can scroll up and quote me right? Just point out where I was doing what you are accusing me of.
Austin Mitchell
Astro City
Angel Perez
The comiXology sales rankings for the past week are now up: Boosted by speculator hype over a new character codenamed "Star" (what a lazy one).
>wrongly interpreting the fused top 10 chart
>not ending with an oversized 50th issue with Amy Reeder and Natacha Bustos sharing interior art duties (possibly with a few guest artists) Just sad but its axing is belated.
Ryder Peterson
>Boosted by speculator hype over a new character codenamed "Star" (what a lazy one). Even if that were the case, it was already selling around that range anyway , it was only increased by 4K units and it's not even taking into account the reprints specifically made for the occasion. So no.
Lincoln Roberts
Not possible. AT&T is a much larger company than Disney. The opposite is more likely.
Michael Brown
You are correct, but by market cap AT&T is only worth 8B more than Disney
Nolan Johnson
Her awful movie can make over a billion dollars, and essentially no one buys her comic. This character is a total failure and is just propped up because Marvel can't admit she sucks. How many times have her series been cancelled? Fucking pathetic.
Liam Hill
>This character is a total failure and is just propped up because Marvel can't admit she sucks. But we were talking about Harley Quinn? The fuck has Marvel got to do with it, you obsessed retard?
Bentley James
people always ask what can be done to improve the comic book industry? Some DC fans say that they enjoy the older comics more than the current ones. In my opinion the solution might be to bring back the original OG artists and writers using artificial intelligence. Today some online newspapers use robots/artificial intelligence to write whole articles. maybe this technology can mimic the OG artists and writers like Curt Swan, George Perez, Stan Lee and Jack Kirby.
Also many antors are agreeing to have their facial features stored for use in movies long after they are gone. this technology is being used in the upcoming movie called Gemini by Will Smith and the Irishman by Robert Deniro.
What if this technology could be used to bring back Christopher Reeves as Superman in the next Superman movie or as a cameo in the next Shazam movie?