How would you re-design this character?
How would you re-design this character?
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I actually think KO looks fine.
I would mostly redesign Enid and Rad.
I think I'd make him more the size of a normal kid. Does he need to be a giant? Seems like an odd choice. Otherwise I think he's a good design. Simple and easy to draw, with memorable shape language and plenty of room to be flexible and expressive. But I'm definitely bumping up against the whole "giant" thing.
Have him step on people
That's literally just Bimmy from Double Dragon and whoever came up with him should be ashamed or fired honestly both
make his legs not noodles for one thing.
that image is perfect
destroy the show before it even becomes a thing, just like real life
Make him smaller. Like little kid height. Then he'd be cute and perfect
bump for curiosity
He's not a giant, it was just for this episode. Though I wish he stayed one
he’s normal sized, he’s just giant in that one episode because of magic or something
Not so much redesign him but I'd give him a few friends his own age who he can reasonably have a rivalry with
Ian wanted him to be like Kid Goku and Rad and Enid to be his Yamcha (who looks like Piccolo) and Bulma but Dragon Ball didn't actually start getting good until Goku got Krillin
for a show that was paying so much homage to anime they forgot the MC should have someone who challenges them as a rival
I did a quick doodle and made him more I guess normal
gave him pants, boots, and instead of a wife beater a regular white shirt
What's with cartoons nowadays always starring giant kids? So annoying seeing lazy animators put all these giant kids on screen. Feels like in the 90s it was thick outlines, in the early 2010s it was noodle arms, and now everyone's gotta be a fucking giant
Id give him some shoes
...I know, that's the joke. I literally have no idea how that could have been more obvious
Man thats awful
Normal body proportions.
Goes to superkid school.
Has a Clarence like friend circle and he's works part times at the corner store.
Also make him biracial and hint that his father is some kind of super villian.
Way too generic
kek
Quick drawings. Left might be how I would redesign him if this was my show. Right might be how I would redesign him if I was working under the guidance of someone else and wanted to keep in line the idea that he's inspired by Dragonball.
These are fantastic, user
I like your left redesign
Reminder that KO is still a dog.
Can't speak for the other guy but I'm really drunk
Left is literally just KO in your art style
Perfect. Now people will stop thinking that CartoonNetwork forced a black showrunner to make his protagonist white.
He's such a good boy, yes he is, yes he is!
I'll try to do something with him. I'm no character designer though
that wasn’t clear at all lmfao
Reminder that Enid should probably know how Were-Animals work considering her father is a Were-Human.
Right is the best so far.
If you have an action show the characters need limbs that look like they're up to the task.
Make him look less like krillin wearing a wig though.
I'd probably get laughed out the room trying to explain that doubling down on the 80's workout video aesthetic might be fun
absolute madman
These absolutely don't fit the character or show
I'll take that as a compliment tbqh
Not bad.
I always encourage KO with shoes.
Is this a Magiswords reference?
I'd start with a character height reference sheet
As long as the character is recognizable they're drawn perfectly fine
Swap out the headband for one of these.
Reinforce that he is a fighter, and also a retard.
That's bad and you should feel bad.
Needs more gar
With consistency.
Good good. Now fix his pupils.
are you that one user from the De-Calarts thread?
I like this one, unironically
My favorite so far
The colors are pretty aesthetic
I for one am glad to have one less show trying to scare my fragile children with its sharp edges
Ok here's my design. I tried emphasizing his best features more which imo is his hands and hair. Made his outfit more comfortable looking and give him some sneakers. I feel like I overdid his outfit with the upturned collar and ripped arm holes. Might want to keep one or the other. Also, no nose cause I felt it would take up too much space on his face
Nice meme.
He should be a little black kid. Black kids love dragon ball. But if he’s black he needs some nice shoes
>that pic
How petty do you have to be to shit-talk someone else's show because they have a male lead?
Much better tbdesu
bump
hopefully this thread survives so I can take a crack at it tomorrow
I like the video vide I’m getting form your art
I'd wanna redesign the show from the ground up. It's pretty awful.
>How would you re-design this character?
doesn't matter, each episode he would be off model anyways, can't fix whats already broken
now we're talkin
Very strong, Muscular, with a broad and powerful figure, but he can still be short though
Both are great. I'm siding a little more with the right given KO's inspiration.
>KO is inspired by DB
ah yes, i remember the dragonball guy with a sleeveless jacket and 80's elastic bands or whatever they are called
So do I.
user that is an actual thing, the fucking dub voice actor for gohan used to voice ko as well in the initial shorts.
Why would the cancel right after the sonic special?
gotta go fast
Feels like an older version of him desu
3/10
Nword/10
9/10
5/10
whipcrack/10
5/10
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toosharp/10
5/10
8/10
Judging from the short length of this season and comments made by Ian and others in recent months, the decision was made long before the Sonic special aired.
Give him more features than the Brave Little Toaster
No
jay leno? is that you?
Massive erect penis
His hair should be perfectly round
>Bimmy
I see what you did there, pal.
Every day I wish my car could do that sideways wheel thing.
Oh that's a good one, that's truly a good one!
pretty gud
Just gotta add more belts son!
It was great getting him in epic 7
Thanks for this thread OP. It shows that everyone on this board should never get into the industry.
I guess you're blind and retarded.
It's cool art, I love the energy, but it doesn't really capture KO's goofy childish nature. It'd be a much better TKO or maybe a teenager KO.
including ian jq
Even as someone who likes ok ko, I think some of these redesigns are great.
>WE WUZ DOUBLE DRAGONS N SHIET
>Needs more gar
>Not making the filename "double dGARon"
Really liking this one
it a good desing
they just need to keep drawing on a consistent and decent way
here's a template
you cannot be serious
Honestly I think the basic elements all work pretty well!
sorry I had too.
I tried. May or may not have ended up looking too different from the original.
h-holy shit this looks awesome
>disney animation KO
This one is kind of a The World Ends With You style and I really like it too.
best one in this thread so far imo
thanks user!
enid redesign when?
You got a social media?
I like his design but I guess he could have better shape dynamics. And shoes.
sure thing; twitter.com
Why'd you take the kid from Ballzmasters and age him up?
I might try rad and enid next. and for the record, I think his design is already fine as it is
also just realized I forgot to put this in OP's template. oops
Because back then literally every show on CN had a male lead. There was no reason for SU to have one too. Oh wait there was because Sugar is a pedophile who lusts after little boys.
Something like this, but a better choice of colors.
It feels telling that the people who clearly actually know what they're talking about all think the existing design is pretty decent.
Absolutely rad.
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The one thing everyone changes is the footwear. It is weird for a kid to be walking around barefoot for no reason.
I mean, that's just uncomfortable.
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This one has two, one of them isnt a different design from normal KO and one of them looks like a really short grown man
More likely that they're just used to drawing shoes and do it without really thinking of whether it works or not
nah, shoes are more of a pain to draw than blob feet. But when you are going over the design of KO, and his more or less streetwear/gi, the lack of shoes just seems odd.
No the lack of shoes is pretty normal. Just a few artist preferring to draw them
Y'know what? Fuck it, I don't care. I'm going full anime on that one. K.O's got the big guns now!
based and tranny pilled
yea someone please bring him back
yeah, I don't care much for the show, but it does have a couple of neat designs
he looks weird with sneakers but the idea of him just walking around barefoot triggers my autism, so I met halfway and just gave him sandals
that being said this guy still pulled off the sneakers look really well
Gorliaz
Not much
super cute~
It's the version of KO from before he started working on his arms (and only his arms)
hope im not late to the party
Pre-skip leg day for life
There was a De-Calarts thread?
Niceeee
Power Puff KO crossover when?
Piemations
Cute
Since we're already on the topic how about we redesign some other OK K.O! characters? Starting with Lord Boxman. I'd think it'd be interesting to see how Yea Forums would design a villain
here's a template:
everyone really needed your help to draw a line. good job user
Honestly let's turn this into a ok ko redesign thread I always like seeing what people come up with
dittoing with
Doing this later.
my pleasure~ c:
You know, redrawing these designs I have to respect them. They're solid, and really fun to tweak and add a bit of detail to
Drawanons, you are all very talented. Good job.
Good work, always thought his design could use a little more red.
Jokes on you, many people who browse Yea Forums are in the industry.
line is shit, though
it feels like what the next thing will be, and it will infect all the shows for like a solid decade
and never got why people keep spamming that particular image, what's the point of using that one? that chris guy comes off looking like a chode with that "muh secret club" dare
Considering all the shilling done on the board, you'd have to be retarded to think this place isn't loaded with people from the industry. If you told me you industry fags spent most of your free time either on Yea Forums or twitter I'd believe it.
There's a reason why animators cant animate that detailed. It's just takes too long.
Chris made Big City Greens and Matt made Amphibia, that's why.
Not him, but OP didn't specify whether it should be suitable for animation or not. Just a redesign.
Because people are pussies that doesn't want to post that time lauren faust awknowledged Yea Forums and /mlp/ during the show was airing
Excellent thread
yeah this is really fun
Really nice user
This one's my fav so far.
Cute, I like the high tops.
Gave it a shot.
Kinda looks like a character you'd see in Regular Show, not bad.
Jesus.
yeah way too many people in the industry use Yea Forums for that image to be anywhere near surprising to anyone
That was the dub actor of young Goku too
Just want to say most of you are very cringe, yes I am a better cartoonist than most all of you, no I will not draw a submission or show you my art, and you can either get defensive and argue, or simply just aspire to be better. Ask yourself what the cartoon character is meant to communicate, and if what you're adding on is just your highly personalized flair that has nothing to do with the cartoon at hand.
Also, KO is hispanic.
Looks like out of wakfu
80's poo poo
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this, but unironically
not only did I redesign. I made it better.
Is this the one who drew porn of Dana Terrace?
I'm not going to sit here and argue with every one of these pointlsss deflections you always like to post, I'm just going to tell you to start taking yourself seriously instead of arguing against basic motivation when it arrives. Your quips aren't relevant to your personal journey. Quit hiding behind memes, and take input without being so offended.
...Pan?
give him shoes
also maybe?
I want something more geometric and pronounced and more like the styles they're trying to pay tribute to
>I'm just going to tell you to start taking yourself seriously
Is it alright then if I ask you to stop taking yourself TOO seriously? Maybe at least get the stick out of your ass and get over yourself?
It's not like any of these guys are looking to pitch their drawing to Ian or something, this thread is just all in good fun. Of course they're going to throw in their own personal flair, why does people having simple fun offend you so much? Maybe you could have drawn something, join in on the fun and have a good laugh with everyone. Maybe give some respectable critique on the drawings that irked you and try to actually be helpful if you want people to be better so badly. Why was posting this the option you went with?
Who the fuck do you think I am? Did you confuse me with one of your coworkers or something? I mean, I know a shitton of industry fags lurk here, but you do understand that's not everyone, right?
stop replying to him
I pay Akira Toriyama to Gohan him.
>yes I am a better cartoonist than most all of you, no I will not draw a submission or show you my art
stopped reading there
if you're too much of a pussy to post a drawing of yours you don't deserve to be taken seriously
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Im not offended one bit, I am aspiring to something better, and to the natural clearer thinking that might help the more clueless anons accept their designs and pet 'corrections' are really not better.
Nothing wrong with having fun, but most of you who believe you are 'correcting a bad design' in your submissions are cringe.
Im talking about how eager Yea Forums anons are to post memes and animated images of cartoon characters attacking posts you dont like, in the style of making your school out of mega blocks to smash it, or beating your mom up in soul calibur
You can be successful and not virtual signal tho
How am I virtue signaling
social media please
You were bragging about how you were doing so great as an animator and you were shitting all over us for doing this
When? I never said I was an animator or that I'm successful. Im actually an office worker and a hobbyist who has recently done some reading and is taking his cartooning attitude to the next level.
chill, Ian
Ahem >yes I am a better cartoonist than most all of you
My mistake
But you said you were a better cartoonist than all of us
Pretty virtue signaling there about how better you are than all of us because you're not participating in this fad
Really like this one. Bandages always make a character cute for some reason
Seriously? Dude thats nothing. I didnt even call anyone put, I just declared myaelf above average and said most posts are below that. I said it that way specifically because there are some good drawings in this thread.
It really is the shoes that tie it all together. Nice job user(s)
No, i said most. See I understand defending tourself against harsh language, but if you really look at my posts, I have been very fair and am merely injecting the strict and objective attitude that leads to real productivity. Its really nothing personal, its just being objective in creating cartoon objects
kek. ace is best boy
I can’t make a template right now but I would love to see some Venomous or Enid redesigns. especially Venomous
Am i too late for the party?!
Gave it a quick go.
Pretty loyal to the character, except that with those legs you've made him a pudgy mexican kid instead of a skinny mexican kid with only upper body
Hah, yeah, guess I did.
Tried to make him into a little thick muscle headed dude.
Works for me. Honestly I can't imagine what this kid is actually supposed to look like, with his highly abstracted noodle legs, it really isn't a body type
Probably a kid that straight lifts but didn't work the legs period.
He follows the Ric Rude mantra "It's an upper body business". Leg day is for simps but he is jacked, brother.
Best one in the whole thread.
How do you allow your lines to feel so smooth and soft? Is it the brush or just the way you draw? This looks fucking amazing dude, unleash your secrets for us fellow amateurs, please.
Also, got any social media?
Why worries me about this is not the bland obvious bait but the fact that many people took it.
Come on Yea Forums, this is basic levels of baiting, you guys can do better.
a lot of these aren't even really redesigns, they're the same design in a different style that would be obviously a lot more taxing to animate
not sure why i did this desu
Hmm, you might be right.
to be clear: There's a lot of good art in this thread, and I love seeing it, but if you just wanted KO in a different style thats what you should ask for
If this threads still up tomorrow, i'll give it another go.
Fuck you, bitch. Launch party, everyday.
Over the last two years, I've seen more people complain about the art style than the character designs.
By the way, kudos to everyone who's contributed so far, and to anyone who contributes later. After all the mockery and bitching that's been going around since the cancellation announcement, it's nice to see something good come out of this.
It's honestly because his design is already decent desu. Overall it's mostly us doing little tweaks to our preference. I also feel that if we stray too far from the OG design it wouldn't even be considered K.O.
Its not bait
Tried to improve this K.O. redesign from yesterday a bit more and made a couple alts. I used Streets of Rage, Comix Zone and Kid Goku as a ref this time. Was really fun to do this again and great practice for character design in general.
Really great!
Very cute. I would see this working for a 90's anime.
A different style can be a redesign. Look at the pilot: I would say his new pilot design is basically just "in a different style", but it's still fair to say it's a redesign.
The semantics being argued here is "redesign" vs "re-imagining". A redesign can be as simple as giving superman a mullet and a black costume. A re-imagining would be making superman electricity based and totally scrapping his previous look.
>A re-imagining would be making superman electricity based
A black superman, huh?
Honestly that would have been more interesting.
I was trying to draw a redesign of Boxman last night before going to bed but it ended up literally becoming N. Gin so I discarded it. Boxman's design is honestly already good enough.
Oh come on dipshit, if your gonna post like this is /ic/ than you should at least not puss out when someody wants you to substanciate your claims via posting your art.
Otherwise decent bait.
Impractically.
>what you're adding on is just your highly personalized flair that has nothing to do with the cartoon at hand.
Yes.
Which is how I would re-design the character.
>Also, KO is hispanic.
He does give off that impression, yeah.
Poor kid can't even afford a pair of shoes. Working at such a young age. It's quite sad.
Best shoe design ITT.
@ac120rfw
wow you really tapped into a different style here than what you normally do, cool beans
>ITT not cheap animation viable redesigns
a big part of the difficulty is to make something look interesting while having it work low-budget
oh yeah, because shows are only allowed to have characters with 7 lines, max.
>Posts a show made by a skeleton crew on one of the lowest budgets for a non digitally-animated production that takes 3 years to make 8 episodes
I love this a lot. Like the gloves.
son, don't get pedantic. Some shows have complex designs, some have complex animation, some have both, some have neither. The start of this thread was not "re-design KO, factoring in budget, overhead, and production primarily in canada."
I'm not the other guy, sorry for not clearing that up, I just think posting VB is a not fair example to post since VB is an exception due to how wildly different its production process is compared to your average cartoon.
And he's still a 6 to 11 year old
Honestly even without all that, Red Death's design (especially with his villain outfit) is exceptionally detailed compared to most others in the series.
>teehee pls pay attention to my art style
there's a board for that
Yes please.
>oh no, people are talking about comics and cartoons in a way that doesn't involve me!
This deserves love. Awesome work with the THICC lines, user.
Why spoil it?
Looks awesome. Like how a lush Don Bluth version would be designed.
Original content creation bad, user. Waifu thread #1328294 good.
something like this?
Only lizard brain good. All higher functions bad.
>This deserves love
If it's shit, it's shit.
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Make it a girl
Sir... i'm a christian artist
Give it long hair, big boobs and a tight ass.
based
Fixed
Holy shit I didn't recognize the style you're the guy that made the "A Better Place" comic, right?
When's the next page?
oh my goodness user, you are so clever!
If you keep it up maybe you can make a show like "the nutshack" one day!
Hey so, how would you describe KO in three words?
Is this a copypaste?
It looks like one.
amusing but forgettable
Overall pretty fun
Not very funny.
Shit, I meant in his design.
Small, Punchy, Excited
How damn these are radical!
all thats missing a is backwards baseball cap.
Just straight up replace him with Hulk Hogan
You're shit.
See
Aw thank you
And thatnk you too
y-you too
There's a reason it was ignored, though. Don't know why you're catching feelings over it by being passive aggressive.
Perfection.
aw, did your insult not land as piercingly as intended? Perhaps try criticism using vocabulary beyond that of a 1st grader, see if that works. Alternatively consult a 1st grader and see if they can help you draft a response.
C-can you draw enid too please
what's your twitter user?
Tried something.
Give me your brush mate
please redesign dendy, Yea Forums
Good!!
>ctrl + F "gomoku"
>0 results
WTF I love Sugar now?
Down to page 10 it goes
OP said redesign, this is just fanart
Dendy is already perfect.
This is just fucking terrible. I'm laughing so hard at your pathetic attempts at a redesign. I'll have you know you are quite possibly the worst and most horrendous excuse for a cartoonist I've ever seen. I'm so much better. I could purely sneeze in a tissue and that alone would look better than your putrid abomination, fuck you.
put too much effort into this
feed me yous
What you guys think of this take?
Would the show still work?
Pfff Ian is one of the most bro-tier cartoon creators and a Yea Forumsnrad at heart. He openly says that people can draw characters however they want, and even laughted when people whitewashed SU characters and his own avatar (I thik he even used the white avatar for some time).
middle finger hand is wrong way
YES PLEASE. MAKE BOOBS BIGGER.
you draw like the spookwood guy
Shame that doesn't translate to talent.
I tried something close to the style but I can't draw. Main points are
- I don't like the eyes being above the headband
- tumblr nose is ok when it's clear it's just red because it's regularly being punched
Thicc
His work on Venture Bros is pretty good.
> a Yea Forumsnrad
Found the cop.
Everyone's work on Venture Brothers is pretty good. That's what happens when you work for perfectionists who either keep telling you to re-work something until it fits their vision or they just take it and fix it themselves.
VB is not the result of many people's voices, it is very specifically two and that's why it's so strong and why OK KO, "Everyone's style is equally valid" is so weak.
heh I don't like OK KO. I'm cool
Whys this look like somethin outta aqua teen hunger force
you do know how old those images are, right?
Make him less streets of rage and normal like a kid working at a conveinence store. Make him short but also skinny muscular, showing that he's at least training and taking this seriously.
When I see OK KO! I think Goku who took shit not so seriously becuase he saw fighting as a game and it was like a game. But Goku was more towards the idea of a powerful alien race who saw mountains of enemies as an amusement park.
Make KO actually concerning about his actions, looking up certain heroes and practicing their moves. Make him obsessive like the fan, showing us a stressed out kid who keeps trying to further his life.
>Everyone's work on Venture Brothers is pretty good. That's what happens when you work for perfectionists who either keep telling you to re-work something until it fits their vision or they just take it and fix it themselves.
Quality control is a lost art.
Pan, I swear to god I'm going to throw you off a cliff if we don't get an obscure CN movies vid!
It is better than a 6 to 11 year old kid with buff arms and a barrel chest, but I don't like the face, too innocent and not Scrappy/manic enough
You, you get it. Best in thread
Im not good artists and i don't have a drawing tablet so i'll just post this
Well it's so damn similar that I wouldn't be surprised if they just copied it and made enough changes to not get sued because they had no ideas for how he should look, or it's their usual intentional(?) "Not technically that character from another medium but it really is" (Mr gar = Hagar from final fight, 4 armed lady at the dog is that female goro from mortal combat, rms is sand or papyrus or both, and of course boxman is robotnick/Dr wily but he looks like ngin so it's totally different)
>if you dare
What a fucking faggot
Your bait is trash
>a 6 to 11 year old kid with buff arms and a barrel chest
It's KO's charm point.
because the face is literally from the show
Enid is thick
well it got 10+ replies so he did SOMETHING right
The face seems too blank and remind me of mr enter's growing around and the arms seem kinda baby-ish, but good job otherwise.
I'll do it tomorrow if the thread's still up by then.
Two segment torso, round off hair in front, popeye arms with concave and convex shapes for separation. At least one finger.
This is some autism.
Nah, you're just stupid.
Doesn't the fact that they make it work despite the low staff and budget prove user's point?
Based
not really?
the actual size of the staff and budgets of each individual show is irrelevant. the point user was making is one show clearly lacks the same need for visual art direction and congruity as the other show.
That's not a money and manpower issue, that's pure showrunner force of will.
>aw
lol It's still really shit, my man. Neither of us can change that fact right now.
super good. do you have more art?
>The show with good writing and actual effort behind it keeps gets renewed for a decade and a half while the lazy crap burns out after 3 seasons
Capitalism at its finest.
95% of these designs are fucking hideous
he looks fat and mexican