Is the Boys comic is nearly as good as the Amazon Prime series?

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Better antagonistic Supers at the cost of Butcher. Butcher's heel turn is only tragic because of what happened to his wife, the moment you take that away he becomes pathetic instead.

Comic book Boys was just Cunts being cunts to worse Cunts, while Wee Hughie stands around being appalled by all the rampant cuntery unfolding.
It's not exactly profound. Cunts.

I like pathetic characters, specially if they are dangerous.

They’re supposed to unlikable and revolting. Literally superhuman celebrities only concerned with their own pleasures. The Prime versions don’t push the envelope, they’re way too clean.
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Personally, I love the fact that the Boys have no powers in Prime adaptation (sans The Female).

Who cares what a literal cuck thinks?

The series kept a surprising amount of the fucked up shit from the comic, but still definitely watered it down. Though I like the characterization in show much more. Been a fan of Homelander's actor when he was in Banshee. Liked his portrayal since it wasn't nearly as 2 dimensional as the comic. Hughie was okay but a little more gung ho if that makes sense than his comic counterpart. I know people have been mixed on Carl Urban's take on Butcher but I like him at least close to the amount I did in the comic.

I will say I was pleasantly surprised with the show, I thought it would be like A-Train wreck through Robin but it was one of my favorite Streaming Originals possibly ever.

Too bad for you Prime Butcher is also incompetent

You're right. I should have just ignored those two.

No, it's even shittier

>never would have been allowed
ftfy

>good as the Amazon Prime series

normies are funny

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The series changed too much. The comic was nearly perfect except for the Scotland volume that felt like a filler arc.

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stillwell is much better in the comic

>jack from jupiter getting gangbanged by pre-op trannies
>the entirety of Tek Knight
>Butcher's constant use of poofter and other homo slurs
>all the racial slurs
It would be fucking hilarious but people have a stick up their ass about that stuff now. "how dare this murderer call someone a nigger/faggot"

>they’re way too clean.
Because the prime series has a much larger focus on their public personas, which are corporate-approvedly squeaky clean. In truth the characters are still just as fucked up; look at A Train murdering his girlfriend and blaming Huey or Ezekiel preaching homphobia while fucking 3 gigolos[/spoiler. The only character who's actually gotten nicer is Maeve

Butcher's comic backstory is pretty generic. I'm not sure where the show is going to go next, but I'm withholding judgement for now.
And Butcher was always pathetic. The show just makes it more obvious.

i read the comic to see if i wanted to watch the show and i got to the third issue and it was just depressing so i stopped
is there something wrong with me?

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Maeve better be a huge slut in this show.

Maybe you don't like sad things?
Really it's more like dark comedy.

if you like clumsy pointless edgy bullshit for the sake of pointless edge bullshit then you'll fall in love with The Boys right away.

No. Honestly the comic is a real slog. Unless you're used to the kind of hyper gritty, over the top, filled with edhiness stuff that Ennis writes, it can honestly be a physical pain to read
The show is much more accessible

>pointless
but that was the point. Just to be edgy.

Being incompetent doesn't negate being dangerous. It can actually amplify it.

As an adaptation the show is shit and it butchers the comic a lot.
>Stillwell gets COMPLETELY ruined as a character and then unceremoniously killed off
>All of Stillwell's kino scenes from the comic will never happen now
>Butcher is a super cuck now so his entire character and main motivation get COMPLETELY butchered
>Butcher being cucked means we won't see the kino Black Noir twist near the end
>Mother's Milk motivation and nickname get presumably ruined
>None of the Boys wear trench coats
>None of the Boys are powered by Compound V
>Butcher isn't the ass kicking mastermind he was in the comic, in the show he's lame and constantly gets outsmarted and asskicked
>None of the Boys have any blackmail on the Seven, plus they're weak so the supes could easily kill them
>Starlight's rape scene gets butchered andwatered down
>You can bet your ass they whitewashed the Deep because a black man raping a white girl is very problematic
>9/11 plane scene is completely watered down because they didn't have the balls to make it about 9/11
>No Terror except for a throwaway flashback scene
>No Jack from Jupiter
>Meaning we wont see the kino scene where Butcher kills Jack for killing Terror
>We also wont see the kino scene of Jack being gangbanhed by trans women
>The Boys will probably not fight the Gmen because itd be too dark to adapt
>Butcher doesn't hatefuck the CIA director because the US government wouldn't like it
>No Legend
>No Love Sausage
>No Dakota Bob or Vic the Veep, it's surprising because every show mocks Trump nowadays
>No Monkey and his kino wheelchair fetish
>Gebderswapped Mallory means so we wont see her army backstory when Vought first wanted supers in the military
>A Jewish woman got casted to play the male nazi Stormfront in Season 2
All this shit adds up and it brings the show down a lot. Fuck Amazon, fuck Seth Rogen, and fuck YOU in particular if you liked this mediocre, substandard adaptation of an otherwise mostly excellent comic.

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It's way better in terms of the story. Compared to the comic literally NOTHING has happened in the Prime series. The entire plot for the first season can be summed up in 'Worldbuilding/setup and Homelander finds out he can have children.' Contrast with the comic where the bodycount was already nearing or past the hundred mark.
Also the supers in the show are shown as being heavily flawed fuckups rather than outright iredeemably evil which takes a huge chunk of the fun out of the comic version.

Characters are a mixed bag. Homelander in the TV show is a career making role that makes me want to throw infinite Oscars and Emmys at Antony Starr.
They've butchered Butcher as a character, and jesus christ Hughie. A good chunk of the cast is outright missing, and the ones that are there are irrecoverably changed to something completely different. In fact the TV series has so little to do with the comic I don't know why they didn't just rename everything. Like fuck, Queen Maeve can't even fly in the Amazon series?

I have to hand it to Ennis, the edge in The Boys is the biggest pleb filter I've ever seen

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>DIFFERENT BAD
>SAME GOOD
Piss off, the comic was never that good, changing it is for the better in many cases.

>every show mocks Trump nowadays
That's probably what they wanted to avoid even though it's more of a jab at the Bush administration.
I thought the Twin towers still being in The Boys was as neat idea.
>Stillwell dead
>Stormfront a woman
>No Love Sausage
what the fuck? Why even base it on The Boys if everything gets thrown out?

>for the better
shit taste.The Black Noir twist was excellently done.

I miss jack he was fav from the seven

>because a black man raping a white girl is very problematic
Isn't he the only one who didn't rape starlight?
I thought it was A-train, Homelander and Noir

That's how I remember it.

You remembered it wrong, just checked and it's those three

No the deep didn't rape starlight in the comic. What I meant is that they turned him white in the show because they were also planning to have him rape starlight instead. They made him white to be more politically correct. This is a show written by Seth Rogen don't forget.

Also, FUCK Madelyn Stillwell. Lactating-mommy-fetish-bait Stillwell doesn't even come close to cold personification of an evil corporation Stillwell. He will always be superior.

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>written by Seth Rogen

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That was a statement of agreement with what you said.
I remember it being those three. I'm not the guy you replied to first.

>Actually, I think that the series does a better job with pretty much all the antagonist supes. They feel more like really fucked up characters and less like a monolithic entity of the stupidest depravity imaginable.
I'd agree with that. A-Train's whole 'aging athlete pushed into steroid abuse to keep his edge' aspect gave him an unexpected amount of depth. Likewise Deep's character has a lot more of Jack From Jupiter's aspects form the comic - with his desperate need to act like he's on the same level as supes like Maeve and Homelander when he's definitely the least effective of the group, and his personal issues make him almost sympathetic despite being a rapist.

I don't get Yea Forums. You guys bitch if it is a straight shot by shot remake and you bitch it they try something different.

I read the comic, I don't need to re watch the thing. Just view this as an elseworlds story. Aside from Butcher and Hughie the characters are either improved or the same. Urban did a good job with what he had but I agree Butcher's backstory sucked. I think they wanted to make it more realistic. Not an amazing adaption but on it's own removed from the source material it is a good show, and in some ways much better.

Context?

It's almost like Yea Forums isn't one person. Don't be dumb.
Arrogant asshole Superman with daddy issues gets gaslit into committing a coup against the US government. Businessman is unimpressed.

My bad

It's cool that you liked it, but it comes up only at the end and falls apart if you think about it for a 5 seconds.

I actually hate the new deep.

I liked that in the comic the deep didn't seem too into ANYTHING the seven were doing except for making money.

Almost everything he said in the comic were about his bottom line, from the toy sales, to offering his attorney's number to A-train at the end.

I feel like he's the most "practical" of them. Him becomes a jack from jupiter like sucks.

Honestly I don't think they should've even gone after a member of the seven in the first season. Theres a reason we build to them in the comic.

It reveals most of them being jokes way too soon.

It's... different...

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>survived falling out of an airliner on 9/11
>punched through a burning jet and walked away with no injuries
>"based on the size of the dick we think it's Homelander"
>Noir and HL are the only one's guaranteed to live in the simulated battle
They were building up to a big reveal about him for a while.
Out of curiosity, why do you think it falls apart?

The TV show sucks. The comic sucks less.

Maeve's character doesn't make sense anymore. While she was always a bit of a mess, in the comic she doesn't become the full blown alcoholic shell of a human being we meet her as until after the events of 9/11 - it's why she becomes a wreck, it's why she betrays The Seven to The Boys twice during the comic series, and it's why she ultimately chooses to look out for Starlight and stand up to Homelander. In the series she's that way from the beginning with only the passing explanation that she just got sick of being a hero or whatever.

The Prime versions are TOO clean, even if they have skeletons in the closet. It just pales in comparison.

yeah they killed the deep's character

Well he didn't have much, but I really wish they would've built on what he had because it was actually interesting to me, instead of just swapping it out.

>A Jewish woman was cast to play the male nazi Stormfront in Season 2
Give Aya Cash a chance. They need someone that'll be able to match the Homelander actor's charisma and she should be able to pull it off. Just hope that they salvage some of the ending fight.

It's hilarious that the fucking Deep ended up being the only original survivor of the Seven and probably the strongest supe left alive.

You're missing one other key event: Lamplighter killing Mallory's grandkids. It still happened on the show and provides a pretty easy explanation for why she's starting to fall apart.

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>outright iredeemably evil
They weren't really that in the comics either. That was sort of the point. They did terrible things, but merely because that's the sort of dark, fucked up shit people engage in when they're in the kinds of positions the supers are. The supers have power and privilege, both physically and socially, and protect them from the legal and social ramifications of certain petty desires and degeneracies, and so their in circle begins to become cancerous and further encourage this behavior.

It's Vought American that's the real "Evil" of the story, and it's in its cold, corporate incompetence than any true villainous plan. This is the theme of The Boys. Vought builds up the supers for its own self interested ends, and this creates the environment that attracts and encourages the kind of behaviors, both vices and incompetence, that the supers engage in. They're not "Evil" in any real sense, just heinous and many are unsympathetic because of how far gone they are. But they're still very human.

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I am really fucking saddened to hear that Stillwell got neutered and gender swapped, the fact that he gets away with everything in the end was one of the most satisfying bits from that comic. This whole scene with HL trying to frighten and intimidate him, only to have Stillwell show zero reaction was one of my favorite moments from the whole series

Don't forget MM. He's barely even a character in Prime, meanwhile he has a great story in the comic.

you can't frighten and out edge someone who has no soul left to break

BAD PRODUCT

I found it cathartic that american superman is the most malicious irredeemable piece of shit in the entire series.

There's still a chance we get a male Bradley with Stillwell's scenes. I wouldn't hold my breath though. Chances are Bradley will just be Payback's version of show Stillwell.

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but he isn't, he basically got tricked into becoming that by making him think he was that

Wait until they introduce Professor G and his G-Men.

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And that’s what made him so damn good, it was all just business for him, even while he was fucking his patsy. And you could just feel the frustration mounting in HL during that moment, here he is, covered in human blood with the powers of a god, and this wormy little suit gives him the barest of reactions, and worst of all, HL can’t kill the fucking suit, despite being totally able to kill him. Just loved that scene, it’s like watching a parent disciple a snotty little brat in public.

i disagree, prime is a good critique on superheroes, cape movies, and politics

He was literally a victim of gaslighting. The worst he did was fuck up the plane rescue and coerce Starlight into an unwilling blowjob

he still murderraped all day every day that's pretty fucking irredeemable

>Theres still a change we get a male Bradley with Stillwell's scenes
I think they're setting up the Vought CEO to fill that role. Why else would they cast Gustavo Fring's actor? Hes clearly gonna be important in some way or the other.

The G-Men were referenced by Stillwell in one of the early episodes. I hope we get to see them in the show but they'll likely water them down and make them cannibals or something.

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I don’t think anyone is saying he is redeemable, just that he wasn’t always a crazy bastard, he was tricked into believing he was eating babies and shit and it drove him insane. There is even a moment in the comics where his grief and shame boil over and he’s questioning how he can do the things he has done before he fully snaps and decides, “Fuck it, i can do anything and no one can stop me.” Before that he might have been a good person, of a bit of a twat, but his contingency plan didn’t like waiting for him to o crazy, so it helped the process along a little bit.
No redeemable, but goddamn if Homelander’s story isn’t heartbreaking

Pussy.

>You guys bitch if it is a straight shot by shot remake and you bitch it they try something different.
Personally I wish that comics in general weren’t adapted at all. Comics should be allowed to be their own thing, and not be treated as pitches for movies and tv series.

The idea of it is heartbreaking, but his story isn't. It's one thing that drives me insane about the Boys. Great ideas, terrible writing, and this is coming from a primo Ennis fan.

It's a shame that Stillwell didn't get a few more scenes to show off.

>Put down rebellious supes on Vought's orders
>Failed to rescue the plane
>Painted a hangar red with the blood of some special forces soldiers
>Tricked Soldier Boy into multiple auditions
>Tricked Starlight into a blowbang
>Tricked Maeve
Homelander really wasn't that bad.

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I think it’s because when we are introduced to Homelander and the rest of the Seven they are already massive mega cunts, so that when you find out about WHY HL is crazy it’s less impactful. Admittedly, when I first read that I didn’t have much of a reaction until I was thinking about it later, and how absolutely fucked up it was.

What issue is this?

Issue 64

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>Butcher's comic backstory is pretty generic
name one of the character who had the same backstory

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love it later when those words really get to him and he snaps "I DON'T NEED TO IMPRESS ANYONE"

Hunting for revenge because your wife was raped and murdered? You really gonna call that original?

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Maeve was always nice, and a believer too, until two things:
- rest of the seven turned her into a cumdumpster
- the botch job they did at 9/11
After that, she planted the bugs for Butcher and then drank martini all day while being fucked by Chippendales two at a time.

We aren't bitching because it is a shot by shot remake, nor are we bitching because it is trying something different.

The problem is that it just plain sucks. Capes are just normal media stars, Butcher & co are full incompetents, despite all the CIA and black market knowhow he failed to find that his wife is just in protective custody. Their team is supposed to be serious players & a threat to the supes, but they are a merry band of retards at best and Hughie is the only one of the bunch with more than 3 brain cells active at any given time.

AND THEY REMOVED TERROR. THAT DOG WAS THE BEST THING IN THE SERIES.

he's right, whats original is the buildup, characterization, resolution and all the good stuff missing in the show.

Why'd you remove the dog, Seth? Why'd you remove the dog?

That's sort of the point. Almost nothing that happens in the Boys until Homelander tries his take over or Butcher's plan after that is actually anything special. Accident kills a girl friend. Family torn apart by medical problems from corporate negligence. The supers are essentially just celebrities with super powers. They cause problems when drunk or on drugs or just generally caught up in themselves that their corporate overlords smooth over to keep things on brand.

Only the Female and Frenchie have absurd backstories, and the latter is most likely entirely made up. But the point of it all was that the supers are human and the things they cause are typical human problems but simply scaled up. Butcher's wife is raped, and it results in a super baby that kills her. It's ridiculous, but the human factor of it is mundane. The show dramatizes everything. Now it's not just that Butcher thought his wife was dead, it's some convoluted soap opera thing where she cheated on him and is still alive raising the other dude's kid but maybe also she was forced into it or whatever. Complicated, more fictional, more narratively juicy. You can prefer it, but the comic was very specifically going for the "supers just cause mundane fuckups but scaled up for their powers." The entire comic has the tone of mundane cynicism and ridiculous superhero feats. It's supers as scene through the lens of corporate celebrity.

Homelander is one of the more sympathetic of the 7. He is a by product of being treated like a God with no paternal influence. They made him into a Sociopath and then told him to be the perfect hero that cares for everyone.

Even in the Comics he wasn't that bad by comparison. Was just an asshole with powers not overtly malicious that was all Black Noir. He did fuck up 9/11 but again more of his upbringing than anything.

Aside from Starlight and Deep he wasn't that bad. Felt even more sorry for him in the show, except he did kinda go a little crazy in the airplane scene.

So what's the new twist for Noir guys? They're obviously playing him up to be some sort of joke, so there must be a payoff in store.

Probably making him Female's brother.

I'm not saying it's a bad backstory per se, but the people acting like it's a massive tragedy to change Butcher's backstory mystify me, because it was serviceable but very generic.

The "tragedy" isn't so much that this great, original backstory was lost, but that it was a generic, mundane backstory that was somewhat integral to both the aesthetic of the show and arc of the character. Butcher is almost Ennis's commentary on one of his most famous works, his Punisher run. Butcher's both a bit more charismatic but also a bit more unhinged than Frank. Both are coming from a place of being dangerous men who tried to go legit with their loved one's, but then the "villains" in their stories destroyed that. They then dedicate their considerable skills and will power to destroying the people who killed their family.

It's important to The Boy's that Butcher's background be this simple, emotional thing because it both justifies who he is and his desires but not the ends he eventually goes to. I'm sure the way the show is handling it has its upsides, enough people on Yea Forums seem to be into it, but it's a very different beast to character and story of the comic. And people really, really liked what the comic was trying to do, whereas I'm not sure the more soap opera drama of the show is going to be any more impactful for all of its shocking swerves.

>Seth walks out of his gay orgy
>user holding knife
>Why did you remove my dog Seth?

I like the show, but I will say that it has a bit of a "Generic MA TV" vibe. It stands out as a work of fiction a lot less than the comic, which is not always a bad thing because the comic got self-indulgent and a bit dumb at times.

They also racebended The Deep into a white guy in the show.

It might probably be the same, he didn't kill Butcher's wife but he can still be made into going psycho. Not to mention Black Noir is being made too likeable.

Funny things is that a lot of people on Twitter want him to be black too.

It's because Nathan Mitchell plays rhe character and he's black. It's why if they ever do the twist people will bot expect it and they'll even rage.

It was a filler arc, that's why it's out of the main series. The only thing important about it Hughie meeting Mallory

>NOT MUH BOYS
Comic purists are cancer, please jump off a cliff

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normies should be gassed

if they're not interested in telling the story from the book then they shouldn't bother calling it The Boys. I won't watch it but I can be happy for Ennis if it means he doesn't die penniless like so many pros.

>not muh isn’t a legitimate criticism
>SHUT UP NORMIE!1!!1
Hang yourself

>No G-Coast or G-Style and the other G-Men being pissed at them
>No Homelander called the Deep a fucking nigger on 9/11
>No Jack from Jupiter's "So what's gonna happen to me now, am I gonna get exiled? Me and the nigger from Teenage Kix, and Michael Fucking Richards?" or calling the Deep "the least black black man on the planet."
>No "ape nigger"
>No Raynor's "faraway brown people" speech
I'm disappointed in all honesty.

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We never had live-action Blarney Cock as the first super fatality.

Carl Urban's Butcher seems hung over and pissed off all the time, which seems to work great on screen.

>No "was it the niggers or the Nazis?"
>No Herogasm at all

You're right. So, why are you still here instead of being cucked again?

I would say both are mediocre but enjoyable with their own strong points and weaknesses

Can someone storytime the boys?

HBO could have pulled that off

Amazon series>Comics.
Mostly because the comics are so fucking edgy by the end of it you're numb to it and just nod along with Ennis' edgeness.

The showrunner confirmed he'd do Herogasm if he gets season3

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>No Legend
>No Love Sausage
>No Jack from Jupiter
>No Dakota Bob or Vic the Veep, it's surprising because every show mocks Trump nowadays
>A Jewish woman got casted to play the male nazi Stormfront in Season 2
>None of the Boys are powered by Compound V
>You can bet your ass they whitewashed the Deep because a black man raping a white girl is very problematic
>No Terror except for a throwaway flashback scene
Then what the fuck is even the point of the Prime series? It's so taken apart that it loses the appeal

>They’re supposed to unlikable and revolting.
But it gets tiresome when they are all like that

>This is a show written by Seth Rogen don't forget
makes sense, he fucked up Priest so why not The Boys too, that faggot.

you know they'll fuck it up.

>Now it's not just that Butcher thought his wife was dead, it's some convoluted soap opera thing where she cheated on him and is still alive raising the other dude's kid but maybe also she was forced into it or whatever
are you fucking serious?

>is the Boys comic is nearly as good as the Amazon Prime series?

The show is completely different from the Boys Comic. It'd be more accurate to say that it was 'inspired' by the comic than based off of it- it isn't an adaptation in the slightest.

Which I'm fine with.
The comic is goofy.

Fucking hell. This and the part where says something to the effect of "I hope there isn't an afterlife, because then I'll never see her again" hit hard.

fucking seth rogen wrote this

no wonder they replaced the male villian who was really the power with a woman and have te chicks be all whores and change butchers backstory to cuck faggot bullshit

The deep never got that blowjob.
Dude was quite litterally all about the money.

>while being fucked
she did the fucking, those chad's where broken men after.

>tfw you'll never smoke a joint laced with Maeve's vaginal mucus

Because in some cases it literally is. Herogasm, despite being a direct continuation of the series, was printed out of numerical order due to the gratuitous nudity on it's pages. The series is published by Dynamite Press, which is the company you turn to when even Dark Horse or Image won't print your content. I'm not a fan of the alternate artists, to be honest-- few can hold a candle to Darick Robertson and his ability to channel raw human emotion.

It was story timed over a month ago. See if you can find it by googling "Yea Forums The Boys storytime"

Nah, Ennis works can be real exercises in glurge if you try to read them in one sitting. Only exception I have are the MAX stuff he wrote because you typically have Frank giving some catharsis if not justice at the end.

But I want a live storytime...

your a week too late .

Darn it !!...

He also blew up a plane full of people during Herogasm

Do they still depict the totally hot sex scenes?

No, it's trash. The show is much better.

The comic is tryhard edge cringe to the point of it being completely unbelievable that the supes as depicted would give a shit about listening to any human or keeping up appearances when they are almost all demented mentalists. The TV show has coherent characterization beyond "lol rape ebin" and depicts what real world sociopaths and weak people corrupted by power act like.

So what's the source on the webm?

I liked the tv show.

The superheroes having sympathetic flaws behind their fucked up behaviour was more pronounced. I didn’t really expect to feeling for the Deep, A-Train or even Homelander by the end of the season, but there you have it.

I don't like how members of The Boys (except for The Female I guess, but she was supposed to be an original member) don't even have powers to go toe-to-toe with The Seven. The show also omitted the whole history The Boys group has with The Seven

Why did the show completely do away with them having superhuman abilities? I thought that was supposed to be an important aspect of the series!

And you see normies reviewing it be like "b-but it's realistic!"

>Watching interviews with Anthony Starr because this show made me such a fan
>He looks every bit as dead inside as Homelander usually does
Method acting at its finest I guess

>Noir and HL are the only one's guaranteed to live in the simulated battle
Even better - this was considered a success, even though HL was the Seven's main problem by a country mile.