How the FUCK is Kevin Feige going to add X-men into the MCU??

He was, but to be fair, its implied that the mutant population is very very very tiny in that universe.

They could already have had an extinction level event, making there numbers small. They also could all on Genosha, Utopia, Krakoa, or some other one of those temprary mutant havens. Or they numbers haven't grown yet and they still pretty small. Charles X is a pretty shady guy, don't rule out the brain hacking

And the two are really too similar anyway.
They're both genetic quirks that can give a random selection of the human population supernatural powers. That should be more than good enough for the MCU.

>Eternals will have Celestials seed the X-gene, and Thanos' snap triggered them

If they all come into existence at the same time than chars like Xavier, Magneto, Wolverine and etc will have to bastardize to work in this new context.

For instance, how is Xavier going to be a teacher and mentor to mutants discovering their powers when he received his powers the same time as everyone else and is also struggling with how to control it???? Face it, Feige is fucked.

There have always been some mutants, but the Snap made a lot of them. These ones weren't born with powers so they don't know how to be inconspicuous about it? There are plenty of ways to explain it.

Or they could just make them appear without a complicated backstory. *Shrug*

You and normes will eat shit anyway.

>inhumans = genetic engineering
>mutants = evolution

Do you fucking idiots understand anything about the X-men. The theme of evolution is critical to the conflict they face with the human populace. Its crucial that they remain a product of evolutionary forces, I.E the X gene must be activated by adaptions to the environment. Mutants are the children of the atom, not the product of magic or engineering done in a lab.

Multiverse. An alternate universe is merged with the MCU. The X-Men are there now. Also we get a new Cap/Iron Man/Widow/Banner/Hawkeye combo team with way younger actors who won't age up and peace out within the decade.

Is...is Cyclops dick shooting a laser into his visor?

>how is Xavier going to be a teacher and mentor to mutants discovering their powers when he received his powers the same time as everyone else
This was pretty much the case in the original Lee/Kirby run, Xavier was researching the extent of their powers as much as his wards. Only later did they extend the mutant history to ancient times: originally they were the Children of the Atom, triggered by nuclear fusion experiments.

Savage Land movie. Nobody will care about all those questions when they get super powered Jurassic park.

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I won't pay for any of the shitty Disney MCU shitstains anymore but these explanations wouldn't be that bad

Run them sort of like Earth-X mutants. They're making an Eternals movie, so the groundwork will already be there. Mutants are the result of Celestial tampering in the ancient past. There's been a few thousand of them around at most, living in secrecy, but the massive exotic radiation burst released by the two snaps on Earth caused the X-gene to activate in millions more people.

Boom.

How I would do it:

After half of humanity suddenly disappeared, a sort of 'defense mechanism' kicked in and babies started to be born with nascent super-powers.

Why does it have to be millions? You can easily do it if you keep it in the thousands. Honestly I don't even remember when it ever got to the point of MILLIONS to start with. How would you even catalog that.

Here's a solution for you user:
>X-Men come from the X-Genes like in the comics, which is tied to the Celestials
>Mutants have existed, but their numbers were extremely limited, and so were their powers for the most part
>Powerful mutants have, just like in the actual X-Men series been around forever, but have kept quiet or got covered up, probably by SHIELD, or drafted into Super-Soldier programs like Wanda and Quicksilver
>The only big difference from X-Men, is that Xavier's Home of the Gifted host basically the entire mutant population of America because they are ridiculously rare even compared to the other series
>Captain Marvel and/or Doctor Strange fucks with the Celestials while also dropping in their movie lore about the X-Gene and the Celestials' interference with Earth, again probably dropping how it's been covered up (If Doctor Strange is invovled, he'll say something about how Wanda's powers are indeed sourced from something different than his own, Captain Marvel can have a bit where she learns of SHIELD's cover ups)
>Celestials do some "wake up" sort of shit where an event that will lead to the next few phase's Infinity War equivalent down the line, and simultaniously more people will get their X-Gene activated on Earth, causing chaos and also creating the opportunity for Magneto to start his shit
There. Is that so hard?
I mean it's still contrived as fuck, but so is the entire MCU and Mutants in Marvel in general.

>Honestly I don't even remember when it ever got to the point of MILLIONS to start with.
Prior to House of M there were apparently enough mutants that within a hundred or two years all humans would be X-gene active.

Dead pool colapse the timelines together

People have always had the X-Gene, but there were only a few hundred people or so who had active ones, so it was easy for them to hide. The Snap released energy that caused people's X-Genes to be activated, so now there are about a few hundred thousand mutants on the planet and everyone knows about them. Instead of there only being a few dozen superheroes that are all under the jurisdiction of the Sokovia Accords, there are now hundreds of thousands of people with potentially dangerous superpowers who can't be controlled as easily.

There. You have a simple explanation that not only justifies why the X-Men are only showing up now, but also justifies why people are afraid of mutants in the first place.

>Dead pool colapse the timelines together
No but unironically it would be fantastic if the two universes collapsed into each other, but the way they showed it was in the middle of one of Quicksilver's slow motion montages

>Wasn't Xavier using his mind powers to hide mutants in X-men Evolution?

Only in isolated cases. It's not like he was using it to hide them all over the world. Just in the cases where he could help it. Specifically the ones in his residential area.

Right but that took how long? Even in the early issues it felt like a lot of people would be shocked to ever see a mutie.

Celestials made Inhumans. Some Inhumans fucked humans giving them weird mutant genes. Those mutant genes were activated by the snaps just like how Wanda and Quicksilver had their genes activated by a stone.

Woah holy shit man so hard. That's even assuming they give enough of a fuck to explain this.

Xavier studied the Cosmic Cube once. Magneto was experimented on using the Cosmic Cube during WW2. Wolverine encountered it during WW2 when he fought alongside Cap (he would have been like 50 and easily could have lied on the forms to go to war even though he was too old).

>He can't have Xavier brain hack millions of mutants powers away because that would go against Xavier's character of wanting to create a world where man and mutant can co-exist in peace.

That is a way of peacful coexistence. Also Xavier do not have any moral limits since the 2000s. I would pull the Hellfire Club in the keikaku at the other side.

>any of the shitty Disney MCU shitstains anymore

guaranteed to at least more entertaining and coherent than a majority of Fox X-Men movies

Meant to say the Kree instead of Celestials.

If only there was some event in the MCU recently where a large number of people had something unnatural happen to them which could have side effects...

>He can't make them a product of magic or genetic engineering because that goes against the essence of the Mutants being a product of evolution. How can they be the next stage of human evolution if they are created by a reverse house of M type of situation??? Mutants are not magic!

Comics do this shit all the time, though.

Somehow, the mutants are a biological phenomenon, and yet some cosmic elemental force of mutantdom can just will there to be more mutants and magically make random normal people mutants without doing any kind of laboratory gene splicing.

Simple.

Don't make tens of millions of mutants everywhere. Maybe a few hundred thousand to one million spread across the world. Many of these mutants have the potential for powers that don't manifest or small mutations.

People with powers existed before and now it is growing.

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>The Mutants have always existed and were really active during the 50’s and 60’s, but SHIELD worked hard, Men In Black-style, to cover-up their activity and eventually made a truce with them?
>In the present, JJJ is stirring up hatred for him, and now they are ready to fight back

OR

>The Snap went our radiation that awakens powers in people and now those people are being called ‘Mutants’.

It ain’t hard,chief.

>Snap sent out radiation that awakens powers
>could end up with "first wave" and "second wave" mutants

It was all professor hulk's fault.

This. Was always for making mutants to have smaller numbers. Also make it so that the weakest mutants have actually weak powers, while stronger mutants are rarer depending on their levels. With Omega class mutants being semi-legendary.

Cast them

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They are Howard Stark former employees that were created by that isotope/element from Iron Man 2.

Based.

Tony's last resort for Earth defense was near-orbit satellites bathing the planet in energy waves derived from the Infinity Stones, that slowly grant people with the right genetic makeup fantastical powers.
Tony called it "Project X-celsior".

Minimal amounts of muties to begin with that Charles kept hidden from the world, these can be the original X-Men teams. Then after the snaps, mutants started popping up more and more. Also, Weapon X was a secret project by Hydra (under SHIELD) that was intended to recreate Captain America.

He's not. The MCU will die of wokeshit before it ever gets around to X-Men. There will be so many arguments about how many characters to make tranny black women that the entire Marvel section of Disney will fucking implode.

>You'll never get an actually cute movie Curt Wagner

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Considering that this is the MCU, it's going to be revealed that mutants are the result of some superpower serum Iron Man made to combat more threats like Loki escaping on accident into the general public

>Also, Weapon X was a secret project by Hydra (under SHIELD) that was intended to recreate Captain America.
Meh, there were already serum projects introduced to create Super-Soldiers, Hulk was created in one, then a formulation was used on Blonsky, you have the Hydra base in Russia, Winter Soldier project, there's a Russian Cap in Black Widow....not everything has to be about Captain America, either.

>He can't make them a product of magic or genetic engineering
literally the Ultimate universe

Does Cape Fatigue set in before or after Disney is finished?

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It's already set in, so before.

They’ve been a secret for years blah blah blah blah blah, and now there’s just finally turning out to be so many of them being born that they can’t hide it blah blah blah blah blah.

Something something infinity gauntlet. Something something multiverse of madness. Something something eternal’s.

After what Marvel Studios did to Spider-Man, why there are people hyped for this?

And please, don't say "because the fox version was shit" it may be true, but not enough reason to think the MCU version will be the definitive one, they will change everything and the normies will say "it's the most accurate version"

watch the hulk, the stuff the abomination gets first is from weapon plus.

This sadly. I would be happy if they would actually adapt modern Cyclops correctly though.

Shills.

Can we at least wait until the latest billon + cape movie is out of theaters before claiming fatigue?

The Joker would probably be a more appropriate time to start up on it.

I enjoy MCU Spider-Man. So do lots of people.
I understand that they've lost you, but Sony and Disney can live with that.

Nobody gives a shit about inhumans and the only people saying they should be in the mcu are smoothbrains that only read comics through wikipedia.

So just do that but then the snap or something that happens in Eternals or Dr Strange 2 makes a huge spike in the number of people with powers manifesting.

No. Because I don't believe the lies of giant faceless corporations. I think they fucking made it up.

Tibetan wizards and vampires secretly exist in the MCU,but Mutants living in hiding all this time is apparently too much for you people and you can’t suspend your disbelief lol. Grow up.

Logan is running around the Canadian woods nekkid.
Charles was just starting to train the rest.

>Xavier, with the help of Tony Stark, has kept the secret of mutants well hidden
>with the death of Tony Stark it's time for them to come out of the shadows
>They are the X-men, named in honor of the Iron Man.

Well then what's the problem? Cape movies are all fake box office, its all over, you are basically wasting your time hissing at something that doesn't even exist any more. Good Job, you killed capekino by personally not showing up to buy tickets. You can move on now.

>They'll have their actual outfits
I wanna cry

Who are they gonna cast as Wolverine?

They had Tom Hardy slated for it when they were talking about retiring Hugh Jackman, but they already casted him for Venom

They've been imprisoned in some kind of prison, experimentation, or holding facility all these years by either Shield or some other organization, could be Hydra or even just by a villain like Mr Sinister with a large number of henchmen and resources
Whichever it is, over the years, the organization has been capturing mutants quietly and putting them in the facility, and now, due to stuff, they have finally managed to escape and are now free again, evil and good mutants alike, in the outside world.

That's it, simple as that. It's why the public at large hasn't known the existence of mutants at all

Because they're annoying, even if they are fanfiction.

Sure, but aren't there more important annoying things to be shouting at besided make-believe movies?
This seems an oddly specific obsession of yours.

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I don't even need to read the thread to answer this. They simply have remake the 'coming out to the world' part and reset it into the MCU. The "twins" in Age of Ultron were also mutants, weren't they? So there you go. Add this to Shield having a lose, secret partnership or something with the school and them saying they planned to go public once the x-men thing got more than just 'local' press or something.
So get fucked, OP, they tied Spiderman in, they can just tie in everybody else.

My money is on this.

No. You rich cunts destroyed the world. I can't even garden in peace. So I bitch on the internet.

>He can't just conventionality say millions of them were always there in the background doing their own thing this whole time.
"Millions of them" was only ever a thing in the comics from 2001 to 2005. It's never been the normal status of the X-Men. Why do you think the MCU is going to do this? Why do you think they would introduce them like that?

>There is no good way you can add Mutants into the MCU.
That's true though. They shouldn't, but they will anyway.

>The "twins" in Age of Ultron were also mutants, weren't they?
Nah, they were Mind Stone experiments.

No, there's no good way to introduce the theme of "Society hates and fears teh Mutants, lets round them into camps" to the MCU.
There's no groundwork for anyone being pissed about superfreaks destroying city blocks except General Ross.

X-Men will just get the FFH treatment. A few main characters will sorta resemble the ones from the comic, but everything else will be completely original, for the most part anyway.
I think Marvel Studios is a bit beyond trying to adapt 616 stories anything close to 1:1 at this point anyway.

I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure the Celestials were responsible for the mutants through genetic engineering by them implanting a latent gene in early man when they did their Deviant And Eternal stuff.

They're not even going to do it. I'm telling you guys all right now. We will not make it to an MCU X-Men. They MIGHT do it as part of its own universe, but I doubt even that.

All the mind stone did was unlock their latent abilities. Hell, let the remaining Avengers contemplate on their own identities; Wanda buys into being a mutant, but Spidey doesn't.

Of course, the real answer is that the mutants are never going to be in the MCU.

Introducing the oppression and racism themes of X-Men into the MCU would be at odds with the tone of the movies and the world they've created, it wouldn't fit. And by the time the MCU ever introduces them, it has Black Panther and Blade to represent black audiences, Shang-Chi for Asians, Eternals offering representation to all races and to gays, Black Widow for women and Russians, and all offering positive, hopeful representation. Who would actually choose to instead be represented by a metaphor, or in stories about how oppressed they are?
If the MCU is introducing X-Men, it would require a fundamental rethink of what the X-Men are about.

>would be at odds with the tone of the movies
The movies that used Wakanda as a metaphor for the USA and used fucking goddamn SKRULLS as Muslim refugees?

No one but venom fags give a shit about snoy venom

>Mutants are the children of the atom, not the product of magic or engineering done in a lab.
They were in Ultimate X-Men. They thought they were the next step in evolution, but learned they were just the product of experimentations by human scientists.

in the Ultimate universe it's revealed they were genetically engineered. It breaks Magneto's soul.

to be fair in the Ultimate universe Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are fucking, and Hank Pym lets ants gangrape his wife because she looked cooler than him in one fight.

come to think of it aside from Thor and Spiderman is literally ANYTHING about Ultimate not garbage?

Easy, the first snap did a mass trigger of the X gene but at the same time wiped a shitload of mutants. Charles creates a safe heaven (Genosha, Utopia, Asteroid M, Krakoa etc) for the remaining mutants (who shouldn't be more than 100k) mind hacks everyone to hide the muties.

Then Hulk snaps back half the population triggering the X gene in pre activation mutants and in some more people. They had a 5 year timeskip you know. Fill the gaps there and you are golden

>No one but venom fags give a shit about snoy venom

Actual box office figures from Wikipedia show Venom outperformed the entire X-Men franchise.

Venom: $856.1 million

X-Men: $296.3 million
X2: $407.7 million
X-Men The Last Stand: $459.4 million
X-Men Origins Wolverine: $373.1 million
X-Men First Class: $353.6 million
The Wolverine: $414.8 million
X-Men Days of Future Past: $747.9 million
Deadpool: $783.1 million
X-Men Apocalypse: $543.9 million
Logan: $619 million
Deadpool 2: $785 million
Dark Phoenix: $252.4 million

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this also

>SKRULLS
You misspelled Asgardians there, my little afro-american friend

Aren't all humans product of Celestial engineering on Earth-X, while actual "pure" humans are like Wolverine?

Fair point, this is what happens when you let edgelords and idiots create a universe, but it's still precedent that you can do something else with the X-Men.

Asgardians have a clean ally image, their leader is literally on the team of Earth's protectors.
Skrulls are dirty sneaky warlike foreigners nobody wants around.

Not a bad idea on itself but that would make all mutants children unless the X movies are on the future

There is a good way.

More people with latent powers are appearing.

Leading to more people noticing them causing harm. Slowly building.

Keep mutants a small minority.

Ever heard of inflation?

Go be a sad faggot somewhere else please

have it a side effect of the snap, the residual energy of two infinity gauntlet bursts altered some people.
it works as a sort of modern update on the original premise where mutants were the 'children of the atom' brought about by nuclear testing

Best solution is just have it that the mutants are currently incredibly small in number and have lived in secret until now. Charles and Magneto are the same age and have been mutants since they were long but both have been hiding their mutant powers due to persecution. Have the first movie be about Charles and Magneto's falling out while they each try to gather a team and convince other mutants to follow them. Then have the twist of the movie be that Cyclops ends up taking Magneto's side.
At the end of the movie Magneto reveals the existence of mutants to the world in order to announce and vie for mutant supremacy, against Charles's wishes.
It's not perfect but its the best way to do it. Some snap bullshit or mutants arising all of a sudden is retarded and irrevocably ruins a lot of X-Men lore.

so new york was under attack in 2012, which meant westchester could of been in danger, and still no sign of wolverine or professor x to do something in the background or they were there but off screen, they'll pull that shit.
well i won't know cause i'm not watching the mcu anymore since kevin feige is going the sjw route to earn money since the story crap isn't going anywhere

It’s going to do with the infinity stones

>going the sjw route to earn money
Do people actually believe this bullshit? I'm sorry for you, you fell for a shill talking point. They continue to claim "diversity makes more money" but the cold light of reality clearly shows it does the opposite.

Every single person who asks this question is retarded. In pretty much every continuity, mutants were relatively unknown until the boom in the 20th century all of a sudden Xavier started up the X-Men and Magneto started up the Brotherhood. The only difference is that the MCU would have to move this to the 21st Century. It's genuinely more farfetched that Captain Marvel came to Earth in the 90s and we never heard about it, than it is that mutants have existed on the sidelines all this time.l

>he can't even garden
>laughinghousewives.webm

Mutants in the Marvel universe are the product of increased nuclear energy affecting their parent or grandparents. As an example Xavier's parents worked in the A-Bomb.

I don’t see the problem with adding the X-Men. Just say there’s only a few hundred thousand around the world, and have the first movie be Xavier putting together a team for the first time. Hell, they could even adapt X-Men #1
>Xavier wants to help the world, post-Thanos
>also wants to show mutants as good people
>gathers and trains the first X-Men team
>suddenly Magneto declares war on US
>X-Men have to stop him
Magneto’s attack would be the event that reveals the presence of mutants to the world, and also causes them to be feared.

Land is required for plants and animals to live on. Humans have possessed it all like demons possess a host.

Are you fucking retarded? He obviously made Wanda such a major character to pull a reverse House of M.

>X-gene is a very rare mutation that's been occurring since the late 1800s.
>Mutants pop up often, but there's no greater identity to them through most of history, about as in public perception as transsexuals were to the average 1950 nuclear family. When they appear they're treated with hate and fear. Several lynchings occur against more monstrous-looking mutants, but spread out by years and are rare due to the rarity of mutants themselves.
>In the late 70s a brief blip on the radar of SHIELD occurs when a group calling itself the Hellfire Club appears and starts wreaking small-time havoc (think MCU Vulture-tier) in the name of "Mutant Rights". Their leaders: Magnus Lensherr and Charles Xavier, two close friends and firebrand mutant activists, causing minor cases of unrest and mischief with strange abilities
>For unknown reasons the Hellfire Club disbands and mutants go back under the radar for decades
>Until post-Endgame Magnus resurfaces under the alias "Magneto", and reveals that he's been gathering mutants from across the world to establish the Brotherhood of Mutants, and declares his intentions by interrupting another lynching of a monstrous-looking mutant and slaughtering the entirety of the rural American town it took place in.
>Mutants become a media firestorm as Mutie Panic runs rampant, and the public begins questioning who and what Mutants are, if the Avengers are Mutants in league with Magneto, and such in blind fear.
>SHIELD prepares countermeasures to track Mutants and euthanize them using a machine called Cerebro, but it needs a powerful mind to survive operating it
>This is when they're approached by Charles Xavier, coming out of hiding to offer a deal to SHIELD: he'll operate Cerebro for them, but instead of eliminating these new Mutants he is given the opportunity to train them at his estate, now a school, to control their powers and be ambassadors for Mutantkind. The X-Men are born.
Here's your MCUtants bro

They bastardized Spider-Man to fit into the MCU, expect that to happen to all of subsequent additions to the MCU that require heavily established backstories to work properly.

But this Wanda sucks, which means if the X-Men ever do make into the MCU, they'll suck also.

But there's no reason that Spider-Man needed to be bastardized.

Mutant genes always existed but only were activated by the energy released by the snap. Prior to that there were only a handful of mutants with powers activated, like Magneto whose powers were activated by Nazi/Hydra experiments in WWII. Wolverine also had his powers activated somehow but he's also brainwashed by Weapon X and used as an assassin. So there have been a small handful of mutants used as assassins by covert government operations and secret societies but they kept them under wraps. All the others just get activated after the snap and the return.

I dunno, just hope it's decent and Cyclops doesn't have some kind of shitty meta revenge on Wolverine for taking his spotlight in the Fox movies.

Also, despite being so huge and almost growing bigger than the "main" Marvel universe mutants were always supposed to be in the shadows, like secret swat teams compared to the famous/public Avengers side of the universe so there.

The fact that they were "always there" in the shadows really isn't so far out there. Doctor Strange should have always known that they exist but no one else really has to.

>magnus lensherr
If they bring in Magneto they'll stick with Erik because that's what fox did, and even though the MCU is different people are too dumb to realize it's the same guy.

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AS LONG AS WE GET A EVIL BEYOND REDEMPTION MAGNETO, I'M GAME

Fuck me, we could even have Ultimato as the next Thanos and is tied to Thor a little bit.

I know, I know, Ultimatum sucked and it's too bloody for the MCU, but you got the idea

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Thor's first two movies sucked and he's one of the best characters.

They made Spider-Man fresh for a new generation, instead of recycling a bunch of hoary 50's tropes for nostalgia.

You don't have to get over it, but you don't get to pretend it was a bad idea for Sony/Disney.

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Not even a close comparison. The MCU Thor is relatively faithful to the character. Wanda's not even fucking remotely close. And her costume is that typical trenchcoat in her actual costume's color bullshit that Fox pulled for so long.

Die in a fire, shill.

Go away Dobson

Spiderverse sorta did that. Homecoming didn't have a good impression on anyone I know.

And there hasn't been a Spider-Man with a 50's vibe in a long time. Even Raimi felt pretty modern even though it used Raindrops Keep Falling on my Head.

This is what I assumed...

>No iconic helmet
>No flowing blonde hair
>No Ye Olde English
>No real ancient magic, just devices and teleporter beams
>Elves, Dwarves, Giants all from different planets/space stations
>Asgard has more diversity than New Jersey
Lol no, Thor is fine, but he's not "relatively comic-book Thor".

I meant just the character as portrayed in the movie. Not the MOVIE Thor.

??

*movies

The problem with every theory like this is that it doesn't give Xavier or Magneto time enough to be relatively old and lifelong mutants.

Movie(s) Thor is a bit of a good-natured doofus/frat boy.
Comic book Thor has always been full of gravitas.
Try again.

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That hasn't been canon for over 50 years, grandpa. It was never that, its evolution

God, you know what would be refreshing?
An X-Men story that didn't revolve around Magneto and Charles droning on and on about their past experiences and differing philosophies and shit ad nauseum through every fucking film.

I mean, I would have assumed this is going to be the solution. Snap 1 bathed the Earth in a bunch of cosmic radiation. 5 years pass and any kid who didn't get dusted has the X-Gene because of it.

Snap 2 brings back everyone who was dusted, then Snap 3 bathes THOSE kids in cosmic radiation, and Snap 3 is what kick-starts the X-Gene in the kids who survived the first Snap. After that, Snap 3 kids have theirs occur during very emotional moments in their teenage years from this point onwards, ala normal Mutant triggers.

You can have an X-Men movie that doesn't revolve around those things without totally tossing those characters out the window.

My ideal first X-Men reboot movie would be a movie focused on the original five X-Men, with Professor X as the mentor and Magneto as the antagonist, but have the movie focus primarily on the original five X-Men as characters.

>x Gene is pretty rare
>Activated x Genes are even more rare
>Magneto goes through the Holocaust and his powers cause him to age really slowly for reasons after age 13 in 1944, doesn't physically appear to be in his mid 20's until he meets Charles who is like 18 in 1970.
>Wolverine and Xavier are some of the very few notable mutants before present day, Logan keeping his story mostly intact.
>Due to the snap x Genes are being activated at elevated rates causing the O5 XMen to develop their powers, and the world's government to start seeking out mutants.
>Charles (age 67 ) starts a school, Magneto ( age 88 but appearing like 50 ) starts a brotherhood, the US Government turn Logan into Weapon X all around the same time in present day.

Fixed it for everyone

Settle the fuck down, nigger. Compared to all the other characters in the MCU, Thor is relatively well done. And he's not always "goofy frat-house". Movie Wanda (not to mention Vision), on the other fucking hand is just a walking affront to Marvel.

>You can have an X-Men movie that doesn't revolve around those things without totally tossing those characters out the window.
Yes, you can have angry mutants zapping each other, but at the end of the day too many X-Men films use the Xavier/Magneto "destiny of the mutants" hook as the only semblance of basic story. You can have a good Fantastic Four story without Doom, you can tell a lot of good Fantastic Four stories without Doom in fact.

I honestly believe you can tell good X-Men stories without Magneto overshadowing every goddamn thing.

No?

Xavier's a teen who survives the first Snap but gets paralyzed as a result of an accident happening in the moments following the Snap (like a car crash caused by someone who got Snapped away). Magneto is a runt child from Sokovia who watched his mother get Snapped away, and his rage and anguish at that makes him be one of the first to awaken their X-Gene.

A few months pass, Xavier finds Magneto and they try to begin working together to find more kids who have these new powers, and split after Endgame causes everyone to come back (but Magneto's mom still dies for some dumb reason).

I see. You are just going to mindlessly insist on being wrong (and stupid), no matter how grayon its explained to you.

Sorry my bad, add 5 years to Charles and Magnetos age to account for Endgame.

72, and 93

Yeah, that's cool and all. I don't disagree. My point is that by making mutants something that only popped up in the last few years, you're closing the door on a faithful portrayal of Xavier or Magneto in the classic sense.

All you've done is make First Class again, though. If MCU X-Men is going to step out of Fox's shadow, it needs to refocus on characters not named Charles, Erik, or Logan.

All mutants have retreated from the world and been living on an hippy commune on the island of Genosha since the 1960's.

I'm fine with that door being closed.
It's been explored in how many major films now?
What are the chances that it'll attract actors with the stage backgrounds of McKellan and Stewart again? It was getting pretty annoying with McAvoy and Fassbender, and they are solid actors.

I'm all for that chapter being closed. I don't need more movie posters like this.

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But you're wrong, retard. The only thing about your small-dicked complaints is that Thor isn't shakespearean enough and that he's "too goofy". You're arguing about degree and claiming it's a binary issue. Thor DOES speak in faux shakespeare bullshit in the MCU. You're choosing to ignore it because it's not extreme enough for you. And his appearance and costume are pretty accurate.

WANDA, ON THE OTHER FUCKING HAND.

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Also, Vision being a punching bag as usual, barely in frame. A fucking disgrace.

.....she's incognito, literally disguised so as to not attract attention.

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Honestly, at this point the more franchises that DON'T see movie adaptations the better.

Thus is the fate of all robot characters ever. They can be stabbed, shot, dismembered and torn to shreds, without budging the PG-13 rating in the slightest.

The X-Men are not the X-Men without the school. Xavier doesn't need to be a main character, he can be relegated to a mentor role, but he should found the X-Men.

Who the fuck is Dobson. Quit being an idiot.

Most modern movies require huge amounts of money because of the production/marketing budgets.

$800 million to a billion is what these big blockbusters need to make these days to be profitable.

There's a wealth of X-Men stuff that could use some exploring. That poster says it all; Xavier, Magneto, Young Xavier, Young Magneto, Wolverine, surrogate blue Wolverine, oh we also have a villain sorta, and "look, the Beast doesn't look like shit this time".

That pretty much sums up Fox-Men.

They wanted to avoid similarities with the previous movies. This shouldn't be a big issue for X-Men, considering how off those were.

>The X-Men and Brotherhood of Evil Mutants are two factions of time-traveling mutants from the Days of Future Past future where mutantkind is hunted down and genocided by Starktech Sentinels
>The X-Men wants to, by collaborating with humans of the past and preparing them for the arrival of mutants, create a future free from hatred and prejudice where mutants and humans can coexist in harmony
>The Brotherhood want to kill Tony Stark's infant daughter and kickstart a human genocide back when they're still weak and underestimating of mutantkind

>Starktech Sentinels

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Yeah, this is her "full" costume. But you already knew that.

I'd prefer they don't. I like X-Men. I'd rather just remember when they were good.

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That's just lazy. There are huge swaths of land in America and even moreso in Canada where you can live and not be within eyesight of anything but forest for miles. You not moving to one of these places is your own failing.

You are free to stay well away from any X-Men movies.

How is it bait? It's entirely possible Tony's kid reopens Stark Industries at some point in the future, figuring she also becomes a tech genius like her dad

This is a lie. You literally don't know what you're talking about. And land is expensive as fuck. Boomers have fostered the lie that land is cheap and people who have no experience with its cost continue that lie.

The Disney X-Men movies won't ever come out.

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You may disagree, but I feel Marvel made the right choice here.

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Of course not, the MCU will collapse any day under the weight of all the billion dollar films.

>You literally don't know what you're talking about.

I live in the boonies. I can look out the window and see nothing but trees right fucking now, you excuse-making coward.

You are wrong. We are all wrong sometimes.

What a retard.

You're pretty much right. But people will still love it.

>he can't just change Xavier's motives and ideals

The MCU has fundamentally changed or completely rewritten all the characters in it already, why would bald brain man be any different?

And before you respond, let me tell you the obvious REASON you're a retard. Being able to see a tree doesn't mean you understand land as a resource, you sub-intellectual.

Wanda as a red and pink magician's assistant would have looked jarringly stupid and out-of-place in the MCU.

>x gene always existed, it was discovered by hydra
>exposure to the tesseract/stones caused it to activate ala wanda/pietro
I'm not calling it good, but it's extremely easy to do.

The comics make it work. You see - and I know you won't grasp this part, so pay close attention - comics as a medium rely on imagination. Modern comics have began to abandon this, which is why they're losing sales and being flushed down the fucking toilet. Movies post-2000 have absolutely no grasp of fantasy and think every single depiction of everything on a tv screen should be gritty, grimy misery reflective of the hell they have made for us. That's why the original Avengers was a massive success. It threw 25 years of boring rip-off capeshit bullshit right in the fucking trash where it belonged and said "fuck it, let's be authentic". Thor looked like Thor, Doctor Strange looked like Doctor Strange. They even tried to some degree to get actors that fit the parts VISUALLY. Well, all that went to shit when they introduced Wanda and took a step back to the bad old days of Fox X-Men movies and now she just looks like "made-for-tv movie Dark Phoenix" #468. It's shit. The MCU is tanking because IW was their peak. From what I hear, EG was dogshit and everything else is who gives a fuck.

I repeat: we'll never make it to Disney X-Men.

Don't mind me, I'm just putting up this warning sign right here.

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>Who the fuck is Dobson.
Imagine being this much of a newfag

And your argument was...?

This. A few key mutants could have actively existed the entire time -Charles, Logan, Magneto- but they just laid low because fucking duh. For the rest of mutantkind, the X-Gene was benign to the point nobody really noticed.

It could be that only in recent years have people begun to develop actual superpowers on a scale grand enough for anyone to notice.

Excuse me?

>mutants existed this whole time
>the x-men existed the whole time
>the x-men were off planet during most of this time dealing with Phoenix
>get snapped
>mutants are rare and alot die during the snap or are treated like freaks caused by Thanos
>they aren't mutants they're aliens
>unsnapped
>prof x sees whats happening
>"mutants exist"
>people still think they're secret aliens
>hate them
>even when they're proven to not be aliens they're used as scapegoats for everything
>muties like that spider-man are all criminals
>no coulson or fury to back up the x-men
>no avengers
>no super teams that backs them up

>same thing for the F4 except they're famous scientist and were beloved before their flight

Especially since Stewart made such a lasting impression. They might change the character like they did with Peter or MJ, just to try something different.

/Thread

Theres a perfectly natural and good way to explain it The infinity gems awakened the X-gene on a massive scale within the human population. Tons of mutants start appearing simultaneously and everyone is afraid. Some muties already existed but in very low numbers and were kept secret, so nobody knew about them.
Magneto was a kid during WW2 when his powers manifested on a concentration camp, Hydra locked him away and kept him frozen. Wolverine is still in the top secret Weapon X program. Professor X has layed low all these years, and with the sudden influx of mutants he takes action and decides to form the X-Men. Easy peasy.

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Ultimate Universe.
Some crossovers with 616 over the years.

Final fusion after Secret Wars and Batleworld

Here's a different take:

Maybe Eternals revealed by the Celestial who became Knowhere was killed by Set after Gaea sided with Arishem.

Set is pissed at Asgardians being on Earth, goes on the offensive against his sister Gaea in Thor Love & Thunder, fucks up the Celestials and provokes the Celestials into triggering the X-Gene.
Set uses his political influence via the Serpent Crown to stir hatred of mutants.

Mags, Charles, and Logan were the prototype tests, early triggers.

The black pants are far sexier than the pink tights and swimsuit.

>How the FUCK is Kevin Feige going to add X-men into the MCU?
>"Things have changed after the snap, a small percentage of people that came back started to develop weird abilities"
>"Mr. Fury, a man wants to speak to you, he presented himself as Professor Charles Xavier"
>cue to the music

There, easy.

I don't see how you can like men and not be into Alan Cumming

But in WandaVision she will actually become the Scarlet Witch, meaning her new costume will be witchy rather than tacticool.
Mystic Wanda marks a huge evolution.

Just say there have always been a few hundred mutants scattered throughout human history who kept on the down low (for the characters who's age is important) but some cosmic event (like the snap or the blip) caused a massive spike in what would have otherwise been dormant X genes becoming active (so you can now have average civvie muties for there to be political drama about).

I think they should skip past the OG crew straight to dealing with newer and younger mutants like the New X-Men (can have teenage X-23, PC points for queer and muslim characters) and have the older characters on the periphery having already been raised by Xavier and moved on with their lives when the new generation appears.

Since we've already seen characters like Jean Grey and Cyclops on the big screen le discovering their powers like three different fucking times each and we need to get along to the later more interesting material with them, like Storm in Wakanda, Kitty being headmistress, Cyclops becoming more radical, Jubilee being a vampire, Xavier in the Illuminati, ect as side characters in other movie.

The comics make it work because they are 2D pictures that don't have to fit into a real world setting.

You can get away with shit in comics you can't in live action because the look of the fabrics isn't a factor.

>He can't just conventionality say millions of them were always there

You don't need millions. Just make Magneto and Xavier the oldest mutants (maybe some few other people like Mr Sinister and Shaw too) plus a small mutant population of a hundred people or so that is slowly growing

Capeshit is srs bsns

Pull an Earth X.

The planet Earth is secretly a Celestial egg waiting to hatch and birth a new Celestial into the world. Due to an increase in planetary involvement with cosmic level threats, defense mechanisms coded into the planet (and by proxy, its inhabitants) are activated, namely the activation of the X gene. The gene is activated to ensure the survival of Earth until the eventual birth of a new Celestial, which will also destroy the planet.

It's one of the cleaner explanations of mutants Marvel has ever done, it works with their pre-existing MCU entities, gives an immediate hook for mutants and the cosmic stories like Shi'ar and Phoenix Force(something Fox has failed to do well), and provides lots of opportunities for conflict.

>smoothbrains
>not flatscans
are you even really a mutie-lover?

>millions
Maybe some thousands in Genosha, if at all.

>The High Evolutionary has been experimenting on humans for generations to accelerate their development as a species.
>Certain individual humans developed mutations on their own before he started centuries or even millennia ago and some of these mutations even pass down family lines. His approach has greatly accelerated the process tenfold or more though.
>Recent developments have made him decide to accelerate the process even further; not just Thanos related shenanigans but things like the discovery that former assistants as well as some of his more successful experiments and case studies had been using their knowledge of mutation for their own ends.
>Sets off a device that triggers spontaneous mutations across the planet. Where the chance of developing a mutant ability was once in a billion, it's now along the lines of one in a million or more.

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>we need to get along to the later more interesting material with them
>Cyclops becoming more radical

that only works once you've earned it over a period of films

This works. You can also get really stupid with it and say that the affects of the stones also rippled through time so mutants got less rare in the 15 years before the snap and their powers are manifesting now
You could just say that mutants were really rare before the snap and their powers were less powerful so they are just some crazy outliers with powerful powers.

See here:

>He can't have Xavier brain hack millions of mutants powers away

Okay, so... Can it be Apocalypse/Phoenix/Shadow King/Legion/whatever?

>The MCU Thor is relatively faithful to the character

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It's honestly really sad because the Ultimate Universe could've been better than the 616 by a nautical mile, but the fucking edgefags ruined it. Fucking incest and cannibalism, what the fuck?

I only read half of the thread because it was mostly garbage but I think you're all forgetting an essential element -

Agents of Shield already had random people developing latent superpowers as early as the first season. There's classification at one point of people who are born with their powers as 'gifted' as opposed to 'enhanced', like Spider-man or the Inhumans seen in AoS.

Of course, there's plenty of argument to be made that AoS is non-canon, but given it's somehow getting more seasons after a much-rumored cancellation I think we should entertain the possibility that Feige will be using it.

Scarlet Witch gets traumatized by an anti-mutant activist after it is revealed she actually had her powers from birth and says MORE MUTANTS

>The comics make it work and it can work into a real world setting too
fxd

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He could make it a very small group of mutants exist in the world hidden by Xavier and that there was some mishap with snapping people back causing a handful of new cases. One of those new ones causes some mishap by accidentally something and some other supe notices the mutants trying to collect the new guy. Preferably doctor strange

if Disney buys the rights to Jurassic Park this could be the most epic crossover event of our time

Something happened in the five years while most everyone was gone.
Marvels and Mutants began to see their powers awaken.
Humans began to awaken to strange powers and things got really bad.
A man named Xavier who apparently appeared out of nowhere during that time opened a school and began to "recruit" young mutants and marvels to his school.

There's also rumors of a powerful mutant/marvel terrorist who has been attacking labratories and places where mutants were being held for "testing".

There.
Also, holy shit they are STILL using Jim Lee's designs. Man has a fucking gift.

>buys the rights to Jurassic Park
they'll do a Savage Land movie eventually because it is a > 1B movie with lots of merchandise / parks bullshit potential, I think it fits better in the Fantastic Four instead of the X Men

>Maybe Eternals revealed by the Celestial who became Knowhere was killed by Set after Gaea sided with Arishem.
One sentence in and you lost all normies
Fuck even i dont know what the fuck youre talking about you shameless nerd

>He can't just conventionality say millions of them were always there in the background doing their own thing this whole time. No one would buy that, not even reddit.
cant he now? kek

isnt the Eternals supposed to lay the ground work on the mutants and thus releasing the X gene is thanks to the stones and the Snap?

There is a total absence of psychics in the MCU.
They can be hiding the existence of mutants.

It's just a movie based on a comic. It's not that hard to write a scenario where they are either rare and a small community or just written off as metahumans or demigods by society. In a world where Ironman is just a common knowledge, where the world has been in extinction level peril on multiple occasions, and where half the population disappeared from and reappeared into existance, is it really hard to believe groups of mutants are hiding thier powers from society? In a world where a teenager has been recruited by Tony Stark to join a team that constantly risks their lives fighting evil? In a world that attempted to force people with powers to register with the government? I don't think it'll be that difficult to come up with a reason why no one on screen has been officially categorized as a mutant yet.

They could recive the Morlocks treatment, with that they could explain why they aren't more exposed

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No.
Eternals is going to have nothing to do with the X-men because Eternals screams Captain Marvel tier audience repellent.

>They
"They".
Prof X

Everyone is saying "the X-gene was awakened by *blank*" That isn't fucking evolution, they are basically inhumans at that point because of the genetic tampering. Mutants are naturally occuring, no need for any tampering.I know Celestials technically created the X-gene but that was millions of years ago. Besides, mutants being recent creations goes against the whole evolution thing

meh they can always find a way to introduce them, what i want to know is how can Feige make Scott the new Iron Man/Logan?
he seems keen on making based Scott be the face of MCU X-men

Eternals movie was only made so they can explain Thanos' backstory

Rumor is that Eternals is a backdoor Incredible Hercules movie.
The eternal called 'The Forgotten One' has at veriosu points in history been mistaken for Hercules and had his adventures attributed to the Greek God. (At least one of Hercules 12 labours, the cleaning of the Agean Stables, was The Forgotten One.) Logically the movie will just say that The Forgotten One IS Hercules, especially given that Sersi is one of the Eternals as well.

No one wants the eternals movie or to know thano's story

no one cares about herculese
espescially with how poorly they treat men in the mcu now
the only way he'll go untouched is if they go full bi/gay with him and no one is going to put up with that

>the only way he'll go untouched is if they go full bi/gay with him and no one is going to put up with that
out.com/film/2019/4/02/marvels-first-gay-superhero-may-be-hercules

There is still people watching this garbage?

user, Disney is getting absolutely savage by Investors because of Igers decion to kill off the OT and replace it with Disney star wars.
They're also being made aware that they are plundering Fox's vaults so they can remake home alone and diary of a wimpy kid as television shows starring little girls and told sly stallone to take a hike when he approached them to make a show for little boys.
I really don't think they are going to let them basically rape the MCU, the only thing that is making them cash hand over fist, with this decision.
As a matter of fact I can see the board of directors firing a fuckton of people and scuttering a bunch of projects before the next phase of the MCU takes off.

>bringing half the human population back changed them and activated the mutant gene
done

>He can't
He will if he's smart. You're fucking over the X-Men by limiting them to the Avenger's universe. See MCU Spider-Man. Character that has barely no identity because they fucked him over by centering him to the Avengers.

Not millions, make them less.
Millions of mutants was always a stupid idea.

So what if they lose their backstories? Hawkeye is most definitely changed so is Wanda. No biggie.

He doesnt need to combine universes. That might come later with the alternate timelines Disney+ will feature.

He doesnt need to make them the next step in evolution. They are mutations. That bit was also kinda stupid, many mutations are harmful to the mutant or to others, they arent always an edge over everyone else.

Again, its not strictly necessary for Xavier to mind wipe the planet. He could however mindwipe people who were first hand witnesses to certain events, kinda like the flashy thingy from MiB.

Face it, you're stupid.

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X-Men is such a dense property that whatever they'll do, people will get mad. But hey, they get to at least chip away the shit like a giant glacier.

The comparison to Spidey is apt IMO, they didn't introduce a 1960's spidey and explain how he was operating in the 20-teens, they introduced a 20-teens Spidey.

"Something" will have recently triggered a surge in the expression of the x-gene in the MCU. Oh, mutants will be said to have been around for a long long time but exceedingly rare in the past.

Remember, the current MCU timeline is in 2023, we have 5 additional years to work with. If something changed in the MCU around the time when Iron Man first showed up on stage back in 2008, we have a span of... 15 years to work with. Perfect for the x-gene to have been activated and showing up in teenagers "now".

Just like it was """""""refreshing""""""" when we got Spider-Man without uncle Ben, amarite?

really

what's the scientific explanation of the mechanism by which Magneto or Polaris control electromagnetism, one of the four fundamental forces of existence?

how does Storm or Iceman control precipitation in the atmosphere to produce weather effects or temperature changes?

what's the mechanism by which Cyclops shoots eye beams only when his eyelids are open, but the beams are beams of "pure force" and don't generate heat or light except when they do, I mean, that guy should be a walking red light district even when he's not firing, shouldn't he? and why doesn't the force of his punchies beams rip his head off? how does he control the power of them, exactly, given that they shoot out of another dimension through magical portals which must reasonably be in front of but in no way connected to his eyes in order not to break his neck whenever he looked at anything even with the visor down?

is he constantly squinting when he does low-power blasts? how powerful would the blast be if you surprised him with a finger up his butthole?

what's the frequency band for telepathy and telekinesis? they can be blocked by interference and are created within a human brain so they must be part of the electromagnetic spectrum

what part of Nightcrawler the magical creature who teleports through a magical dimension did you miss?

Underrated post.