Face it, the Holocaust was 80 years ago in the MCU - you can't do a WW2 child Magneto, because he'd be too old for the MCU. Instead, Marvel will need to update his backstory to a more recent tragedy, a perfect example of which is the Rwandan Genocide, meaning that the new Magneto will be a BLACK African male. Giancarlo Esposito is Marvel's current choice for the role. Thoughts?
HERE'S YOUR NEW MAGNETO BRO
This is the kind of thing that makes me think we should just flat out not bother adapting the X-Men.
A lot of superheroes are products of their time, both textually and subtextually, and trying to stretch and squash their contexts and characters to fit into the modern day is far and away more of a betrayal of the concept than a black Magneto ever would be.
The X-Men were fine in the 80s when gay people were scary, but there's nothing about them that isn't either laughably dated or wildly off-brand, that can be salvaged for a modern reboot. Just leave it.
Plus, the X-Men universe is almost as big as the rest of the Marvel universe just by itself. One of the biggest boons to the MCU was not having the X-Men be a part of it, swallowing every other continuity into itself like some day-glo amoeba, exactly like what happened in the comics in the 80s and early 90s, and what comic book writers have been fighting off ever since.
Just leave it. It's fine.
Why not make mutants immortal or extremely long lived thus making them universally the next step in human evolution?
Given how few people are actually aware of the Rwandan Genocide, I'm cool with this.
I can accept this
And if you HAVE to adapt the X-Men, you don't have to do anything retarded to the characters.
Just have a thing where Charles and Eric existed in the past, their histories largely unchanged, but they're dead now, and their legacies live on.
Not only do you get the original characters the way we remember and love them, but you get the chance to tell new stories, and completely blow past all the ground that the Fox movies have already covered. You get your cake and to eat it, too.
Oh please, like they’d replace a Jew with a black dude. Maybe if Magneto was a ginger I could believe you.
Nope. He was cryogenically frozen by Hydra to be used as a weapon, same as Bucky.
He won’t be Wanda’s father then
I'd just have Magneto be long lived as apart of his mutation. The rest of the X-men can be from 1950 onward.
How do comics explain Magneto? current comics take place in modern day
>but you get the chance to tell new stories
Nobody wants new stories
No way does Feige skip out on using Magneto as villain
He has been deaged a couple times but is the best method for the MCU
>Instead, Marvel will need to update his backstory to a more recent tragedy, a perfect example of which is the Rwandan Genocide
Why not the Srebrenica massacre?
Sliding timeline.
Same reason Batman and Superman are still in their mid 30s despite having been "Alive" since the 1930s
Maybe do like an EXTREMELY MODIFIED House of M thing, where the whole goal of the modern Brotherhood of Mutants is to revive Magneto or some shit
>Superman
Poor example there
>Black on black genocide
Are you insane? No one would dare touch that shit with a 100 foot pole. That is the most un-PC thing imaginable.
Now Apartheid South Africa, THAT could work.
Just give him a second mutation that slows down his aging. That way you can still get a Magneto that still survived the Holocaust.
The Jews would never allow it.
>X-gene is a very rare mutation that's been occurring since the late 1800s.
>Mutants pop up often, but there's no greater identity to them through most of history, about as in public perception as transsexuals were to the average 1950 nuclear family. When they appear they're treated with hate and fear. Several lynchings occur against more monstrous-looking mutants, but spread out by years and are rare due to the rarity of mutants themselves.
>In the late 70s a brief blip on the radar of SHIELD occurs when a group calling itself the Hellfire Club appears and starts wreaking small-time havoc (think MCU Vulture-tier) in the name of "Mutant Rights". Their leaders: Magnus Lensherr and Charles Xavier, two close friends and firebrand mutant activists, nearly sparking a nuclear crisis in their early riots and demonstrations of superhuman abilities
>For unknown reasons the Hellfire Club disbands and mutants go back under the radar for decades
>Until post-Endgame Magnus resurfaces under the alias "Magneto", and reveals that he's been gathering mutants from across the world to establish the Brotherhood of Mutants, and declares his intentions by interrupting another lynching of a monstrous-looking mutant and slaughtering the entirety of the rural American town it took place in.
>Mutants become a media firestorm as Mutie Panic runs rampant, and the public begins questioning who and what Mutants are, if the Avengers are Mutants in league with Magneto, and such in blind fear.
>SHIELD prepares countermeasures to track Mutants and euthanize them using a machine called Cerebro, but it can only be operated by a powerful, psychic mind.
>This is when they're approached by Charles Xavier, coming out of hiding to offer a deal to SHIELD: he'll operate Cerebro for them, but instead of eliminating these new Mutants he is given the opportunity to train them at his estate, now a school, to control their powers and be ambassadors for Mutantkind. The X-Men are born.
Here's your MCUtants bro
Piss off
>Face it, the Holocaust was 80 years ago in the MCU - you can't do a WW2 child Magneto
Why the hell not? A lot of mutants have secondary mutations, so it's not far fetched that Magneto also has slow aging.
There's a big difference between that and Disney and you know it.
Faggot.
He's 80 and still looks good according to Claremonts Magneto story.
Now you're moving the goalpost, so piss off.
See, this is the shit I'm talking about.
They're mutants. They're scary because the look like us but can kill us. Some of them want to protect us, because that's what heroes do(tm).
That's it. That's all the explaination you should ever need.
If you need to write MULTIPLE PARAGRAPHS simply justifying their existence, then don't fucking bother.
>If something has a backstory it is bad
Fucking come again?
he's been deaged at least twice
Somewhere along the way what with time travel, the phoenix, and racism, X-Men got really fucking stupid. I'll break it down really easy
>Group of misfits who attend/teach a school occasionally save the world
He has had body transfers and had his youth restored and stuff, his body looks better than should because of unnatural reasons
This. But if it's true I welcome it for a change.
There's a difference between pre-established history, and having to completely reconfigure an existing universe just to allow space to exist.
>Shield has been tracking Mutants for decades but never said anything because REASONS
is hackneyed as fuck.
1. Less hackneyed than the snap somehow MAKING them appear.
2. Lets them point to First Class as a broad-strokes origin without having to retread it all over again.
3. Captain Marvel unfortunately blew the door wide open on that shit. Might as well use it constructively.
Not him but its fucking lame. Look its not hard
>Mutants are EXTREMELY rare. Magneto, Charles, and Logan maybe and our current team were the only ones to exist right now on the planet. Erik and Charles have tried to keep these people hidden, and succeeded given the very small number.
>Mister Sinister is the primary threat, has been around for years, and seeks to cause a mutant population explosion. The events of the film end with Mutants now going from double digits, to thousands across the globe.
>Film also ends with Charles opening the school
Nah, MCU Magneto needs to be a devout Muslim who was unjustly sent to Guantanamo because he was suspected of al-qaeda membership.
Reduced aging is his secondary (tertiary?) mutation.
or we can just admit that being a mutant means you age slower than a flatscan.
just say the mutants grow old slowly.
mutants with more than 100 is a thing already
Not bad, but we can do better
>Both the brotherhood of mutants and the Xavier's school has been around for a very long time.
>Xavier's powers have allowed the mutants to remain hidden this whole time.
>While morally at odds, Xavier and Magneto have been in a state of cold war for a very long time, Xavier's promise of mutually assured destruction preventing all-out war.
>The first movie starts with Xavier dying. Suddenly, everybody knows about mutants, and has known about mutants for years. They just don't realize it until they're no longer under the thrall of Xavier's mind control powers
Fuck off with that X-Men evolution bullshit. That's not better.
You kidding? It's WAY THE FUCK better than
>The secret government organization that we've been following very closely since the 1940s decided to be selectively secretive about this one specific thing for no fucking reason
Neither are good you moron. That's why I pitched only half a dozen mutants existing and Mister Sinister causing a population boom as a plot point. Having ANY "Oh they were there the whole time" plot is fucking dumb
Another possible solution would be to go back I time and give the Holocaust a sequel somewhere in the eastern balkans and cast Russel Crowe as Eric Magnus.
You know its just going to be from the snap right? The twins were given their powers from Hydra messing with the infinity stones. Thanos blasted infinity stone energy on a universal scale, probably waking up X-Genes or something on a wide scale. Twins are retroactively made mutants. Mutants have only existed in large numbers since 2018. Its the MCU so it has to be incestuous and convoluted.
They could easily have Xavier and Mags creating their mutant groups during the last century, then mutants being erased by Dark Phoenix or something else.
This way, no problem with Magneto being a holocaust victim,and the MCU could avoid repeating the same Xavier/Eric dance we already got in half a dozen movies. They could skip a lof of characters and stories already covered by Fox.
But no, you guys absolutely want the same story again.
>hulk snaps half of life back
>this triggers the mutant gene that the celestials implanted in humans eons ago
done
>the Holocaust was 80 years
Therefore we need a black Magento.
Makes perfect sense.
I disagree. I feel like the
>They're among us!
idea is central to the X-Men as a concept, so you kinda need to keep that around somehow. The trick is to do it to a universe that's already well-established, without stepping on that universe's pre-established toes.
The thing about Mutants, and the problem a lot of the comics had, was they have to be *everywhere*, or the concept falls flat. So you have to think about how it's going to play out in unrelated movies.
Think about, like, Spider-man 3. Let's introduce a background mutant. How would that play out?
The problem with the Mr. Sinister solution, is now there are mutants EVERYWHERE when there didn't used to be, now we've gotta take time and lines of dialogue out of our movie just to explain them. And then they're never mentioned again. That's bad screen economics.
VERSUS, They've been there the whole time. Then you get two lines between Peter and his fat asian buddy
>Hey, has Danny always been able to do that?
>Yeah bro, where have you been?
And done.
>nigga magneto making all the butcher knife/axe fly after seeing his family murdered
kino
ALSO
>They've been here the whole time
Helps completely bypass the absolute fucking anarchy and riots and complete societal collapse that would invariably arise from there being thousands of mutants everywhere suddenly
Oh boy, 16 year old wolverine
>during WWII Nazis encounter a jewish kid who can control magnets, codename him Magneto and then Hydra comes in to "save him" but actually freeze him indefinitely to study him or some shit, torturing him and all that stuff
there you go, then he wakes up later and realizes he's one of the very very few who's a mutant, then he meets Charles during the post snap world where half of population disappeared, then when Hulk brings everyone back they realize that suddenly more and more Mutants start appearing out of nowhere, what happened was that when Hulk brought everyone back he triggered the mutant gene that the Celestials implanted in humans back in the Eternals, now Charles and Magneto start recruiting kids who can't control their powers and/or are marginalized by society for causing damage or looking like freaks
They wont show mandela killing hundreds of people in terrorist bombings and putting necklaces on people - tires filled with gas and a torch off to the side and crowd beats the person until they cant take pain anymore and set themselves on fire for an agonzing and brutal death. They wont show mandela in jail refusing to accept the end of apartheid by denouncing the mass murder of the boer (all whites native to south africa for hundreds of years and producers of all farm food and services). How he stayed in jail and simply refused to denounce the terrorists long after getting what they supposedly wanted. And they sure as hell wont show the communist flags and allies of mandela and the terrorists that staged the coup. Magneto would not be sympathetic character if he starts as a mass murdering pyscho terrorist.
They'll just merge the universes together similar to the Incursion if the comics to change the history of the world to have mutants always be a part of it
>The X-Men were fine in the 80s when gay people were scary
You...you know they've been around longer than the 80s, right?
>MAGNETO
He'll be Xavier
Magnegro
Not even the X-Men could do that and they have tried since the late 80s
DAS status: RITE
I'll be ok with it.
Yeah but it was much more underground prior to that.
There was a queer movement in the 20s but nobody talks about it.
>Rwandan Genocide
Have you ever heard of Yugoslav wars, conflicts in the Middle East, the Lebanese civil war?
Eh, it doesn't really have to be the holocaust. Just make him a victim of any ethnic genocide or cleansing, it could work.
>BlackNigto
Gays don't own the mutant metaphor you selfish fucking faggot.
Just have the MCU Holocaust happen in the 80s. It's all fiction anyway.
Anytime liberal antisemitism is exposed, I'm happy. It's baffling to me how many people think god's people aren't on our side. the kooks have worked pretty hard to push that narrative and people just swallow it up.
Magnegro
>BLACK African male
>Giancarlo Esposito
pick one
>or extremely long lived
Wasnlt that basically the case in the comics, at least for a little bit?
The liberal narrative is Mandela good, the Apartheid government (eg, whites) bad.
Rwanda is black on black genocide and is something that goes against the narrative. Apartheid is recent enough to be used as a good boogeyman metaphor for Human's treatment of Mutants.
But really, the purpose of Magneto is to point out that humans are bastards and this shit happened to me when they thought I was human, let alone a mutant, it's bound to happen again, never again etc etc. he could be any race or creed or anything like that.
The Rwandan Genocide just wouldn't work because of Disney's liberalism.
Fuck, just make Magneto a Gypsy, Romani are always kicked around, no one cares about them, hell canonically he's actually Jewish-Gypsy, riggt?
>Romani are always kicked around
As they deserve
Oh yeah, not arguing against that.
>swallowing every other continuity
Thats the problem of other writers who didnt came up with good enough continuity stuff. Thats why kirbys stuff or even the secret invasion/avengers iniative will be remembered, it was good enough to be remembered.
Why not the serbian/croation genocide?
Just like how he’s not been skipping Osborn or Otto?
Magneto is a better character than either of those shitters. He has more depth and storytelling potential.
Magneto is different though. You don't need Osborn or Otto to have a Spider-Man movie. However, it's pretty much impossible to have the X-Men without Magneto.
>Why not make mutants immortal or extremely long lived thus making them universally the next step in human evolution?
so turn them into Eternals?
That's 3-4 different Batmen/Supermen though.
Underrated
im pretty sure it still is, magneto is still kicking but for some reason he looks much younger now
LOL they left Apocalypse's hand on his shoulder!?
if Marvel weren't cowards they would make MCU Magneto a Palestinian
>Yea Forums pretending to be /pol/
>Implying containment works
This is so dumb. Mystique and Wolverine have this power, doesn't mean they all do.
>Magneto will be a BLACK African male. Giancarlo Esposito is Marvel's current choice for the role. Thoughts?
But Giancarlo is only half black.
X-Men isnt only about gays you faggot
There are Holocaust survivors that are still alive, y'know? "Bad man" Soros is one of them.
Magneto underwent several anti-agubg procedures in the comics. This isn't hard to do in the movies too.
Yeah, but no-one likes or cares about Arabs, even other Arabs.
Or, get this, Magneto and Xavier have the same aging shit as Wolverine.
Magneto is a terrorist, so making him a palestinian would be very appropriate
Capitan America is still a Nazi puncher, why can't Magneto still be a Holocaust survivor? Have him run off and hide himself away...somehow. Leave Xavier to hang out and grow old, and then he has to fight a young Magneto. Also, Magneto has had so many rebirths, regenerations, de-agings, Eviler clones, and whatever the fuck else. Why change that now?
Jews/Hollywood would never do this to their own people, sure they will do it to white characters but never a Jewish characters
Literally Magneto's kids. The MCU Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver weren't Jewish anymore. They weren't even Romani, I don't think.
OP is actually retarded enough to think Magneto is nothing more than a pissed off mutant jew.
the fucking FOX movies are fucking cancer
Ian McKellen and Michael Fassbender
weren't jewish. So, by your logic, were those race changes?
None of the actors in Black Panther were African, were those race changes?
Because Captain America always gets frozen in ice and wakes up "in present day" in adaptations. He can spend as many years frozen as the story and setting demand. If they make a Captain America movie a hundred years from now, he'd wake up in 2110s, having spent 70 years in ice.
But Magneto being a holocaust survivor means writers have to go to increasingly dumber and dumber moves to keep him from being a feeble and frail old man.
Romani is a race that is heavily tied with the Jewish faith. Not all Jewish people are Romani, but almost every Romani is Jewish. The assorted African races and ethnicities aren't associated with any one religion in America.
You've been posting your Gus Fring as Magneto fanfic for the past week already. Give it a rest.
Why can'y Magneto get his own iceberg, metaphorically at least? "The Nazis experimented on him, since they knew he was a mutant, and is still young in [Present Day]." Maybe they used Magnets to slow his age or something.
Just give him the old Captain America, an freeze him down for what ever time is necessary for him to catch up. Problem solved.
You dont even need his genocide to be real. Make up a past event of mutants being genocided included magneto and all of his family friends and just never say when it happen in the story.
This is the best solution.
It's retarded, because it justifies him. Magneto is a hypocrite, having been a member of an ethnicity prosecuted by the master race, only to start his own master race movement.
>It's retarded, because it justifies him.
Well magneto is RIGHT.
Genosha is a paradise and is completely necessary
OP you already did this shit with Norman, just tell us you want Giancarlo Esposito on the MCU.
X-men isn't just about gays it's about outcasts who are hated by society for something they were born with and you can apply all sorts of metaphors to that, not just gays.
That said X-Men were at their peak in the 80's and early 90's, and I always liked how the comic had a retro futuristic 80's feels to it. Like the X-Men Arcade game was set in the 00's. But honestly maybe Fox did have a good idea when they made the X-Men movies take place in different periods of time. It's why they really work better when they are in their own universe instead of sharing it with the other Marvel heroes.
He originally wasn't a Jew and I think it's funny that he was made into a Jew when he originally was a Mutant Supremacist and a Hitler-like pastiche. Claremont gave him a personality and made the character interesting so there's that I guess.
All you chuckle fucks saying Magneto should be Black are ignoring two very important things:
>Magneto is Wanda’s daughter
>He’s a Holocaust survivor.
Marvel/Disney fans would firebomb their headquarters of the got rid of that element of Magneto. So This Is how it’ll be done:
>Loose adaptationof ‘House of M’
>Scarlett Witch create a new timeline where her parents didn’t die and her father becomes Magneto and mutants rule the world?
>When she reverts things back to normal, he still manages to exist in the ‘prime’ timeline; retconning him into the MCU.
>Magneto is the CHILD of holocaust survivors and grew up in the 50’s/60’s, so by the time the movies get around to introducing him, he’ll be in his 70’s.
>Magneto is Wanda’s daughter
>Wanda's headpiece
For one movie you can have without Magneto
>Magneto is Wanda’s daughter
Based Retard.
>>Magneto is Wanda’s daughter
>jews ever letting go of an opportunity to remind people of the holow cost
Well, if it's being shilled this hard, you know Disney is testing the waters. The answer is a cold hard FUCK YOU, Disney. Fuck you.
Also this. They will never blackwash a kike.
>good genes
Lol
>Rwandan Genocide
Interesting. What about making him a victim of Apartheid?
>letting a mouse live in your head rent free
Magneto was a gypsy until a jewish writer through a fucking full scale class 12 tantrum.
>gypsies
>Jewish
What the fu-
Stupid kike.
The Rwandan Genocide makes Apartheid look smalltime.
No. Jews always make their own characters white to normalize jews and white characters jewish to steal their spotlight. Fucking A Wyatt Mann even had a comic about it, they do it so often.
Yes, but the rich white and jewish liberals blackwashing everyone and screaming about diversity are all racist as fuck anyway. To them an AA is the same thing as an African.
STOP IT
Hmmm....what do they do with Wanda/Quicksilver if they're introducing Magneto?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. No no no. You have everything backwards. Romani are an ethnicity that is often invoked regarding the Holocaust when people get jew fatigue, then jews throw a tantrum and try to erase them from history. Just like they did with Magneto. They could NOT let him stand as a gypsy. That crossed a fucking line for them.
Jews would lose their minds. The suggestion wouldn't finish leaving the lower level employee's mouth before the jews in the room fired his ass.
Most romani are christian or muslim. I'm not sure one can even be romani and jewish
Here's the problem with the Rwanda idea - no normies from America even know what Rwanda is unless they saw the Don Cheadle movie, plus it sounds so similar to Wakanda that people will just scratch their heads and go "huh?"
Thinking something is garbage is not the same thing as obsessing over it.
>70 years
maths bruh
Did you spill your wine?
Honestly, I'm tired of Magneto, Professor X, Wolverine, etc. in general. Can they not just take some newer mutants like Surge or Mettle or Armor and try making them more popular.
Heck, Dust would be a goldmine of progressive points.
Lurking for hour upon hour in a Mongolian Basket Weaving Forum just for a chance to shriek at a company is the very definition of obsession.
Bruh. This is comics. Why the hell cant we just put Magneto in cryo, then unfreeze him now.
As opposed to?
There's no need, it can be done easily without changing his age or race.
>Mutants have always existed but they were very rare and either layed low or went under the radar
>Preexisting mutants include Magneto, Prof X, Wolverine, Mystique and Apocalypse
>Magneto was cryogenically frozen by Hydra during WW2, similarly Logan is kept hidden by the Weapon X program
>The power of the infinity gems in 2023 activates the Xgene en masse, humans start fearing them because anyone could be a mutie now, sentinels are created, muties are lynched, etc.
>Prof X takes action for once and forms the 1st generation of the Xmen
>Members include Cyclops, Iceman, Phoenix, and Beast in their classic yellow costumes for once
>Someone frees Magneto from being frozen and he forms his own Brotherhood
The real question is how would Magneto's relationship with his children work? He'd be too old to be their dad if they still kept his backstory, plus in Ultron Wanda says their parents were killed. Unless they just don't mention they are related in the first place or they make him their grandfather or something. Which would honestly suck a bit desu .
>Magneto is Wanda’s daughter
>>Magneto is Wanda’s daughter
Wanda is his daughter and it was a retcon to begin with.
Why does that trigger you?
>Osborn
It's only a matter of time user. Every mcu Spiderman villain has to be related to iron man somehow, so we'll get based Norman in the Iron Patriot armor any minute now. He'll lead the dark avengers and spider twink will be conflicted about his dead mentor's identity being usurped by someone else. It's too cool of an opportunity to pass up.
Nothing, they don't need to be his kids since they're barely X-characters and the only thing that retcon ever did is give Pietro daddy issues and he's dead.
Not me.
Black Magneto is too close to Killmonger. He'll be Mexican because that's topical.
Superpowers as an analogy for homosexuality, race, or any other minority status has never made any fucking sense to me. Superpowers like eye beams, regeneration, magnetic control and telepathy make it entirely reasonable to be afraid of mutants. Is it fucking bigoted to be afraid of Cyclops? He has a fucking death ray strapped to his face at all times, it ought to be a federal fucking crime to let him within a mile of an airport. Jean Grey and Charles Xavier can read minds, how am I fucking prejudiced if I want to leave it up to the honor system whether or not they decide to yank my banking information out of my head? Am I just a douchebag if I want to fucking know about it if my kids are going to school with someone who can literally drain the life out of someone by touching them?
Mutants have to be monitored and kept on a registry for the basic safety of the public, there is no fucking comparison between being able to travel through time on the one hand, and an eight inch dick and moderately improved aptitude for sprinting and jumping on the other, nor is there any fucking similarity between the combination of a lisp and an eye for fashion, and fucking cryokinesis.
And if being gay gave you superpowers, men would be lining up into the streets to get into gay bars.
it is literally the only fucking metaphor that works because for the most part most high profile X-men just look like regular white people with a handful of exceptions.
Gays don't own the X-Men go dilate.
they sure as fuck don't but that doesn't change the fact that X-men as a metaphor for an oppressed minority makes the most sense for gay people, and that's if we're being fucking generous, because the X-men as a metaphor for oppressed minorities haven't worked in a VERY long fucking time.
i think you need to seek help and take your pills
Dude the only problem is that Magneto would be too old to use. Everything else about him would remain the same.
That appropriation of the X-Men only started in the late 70's - 80's, Stan Lee originally just wrote them as weird kids with cool powers. I mean sure there was villian like Magneto with mien fuhrer complex but the O5 were really just kids goofing off.
Lol I love this "you are crazy" comeback. It's the weakest boomer tier shit imaginable. It's no wonder liberals are losing so much ground. Next you'll write a strongly worded letter to a city council representative or try to shame me for not sucking black dick.
Eh, I like GIancarlo Esposito enough for that.
but yeah I have doubts with that.
This feels more like the route they'll take to 'subvert' expectations kinda like how Spider-Man barely acknowledges Uncle Ben
>Spider-Man barely acknowledges Uncle Ben
Get
the fuck
over it
Fuck you, MCU Spider-Man is pretty great outside of the constant Iron Man Dicksucking and you know it.
If they made you a Mandarin-esque excerpt showing Peter crying Noooooo! over Uncle Ben's bleeding body, with him passing one the oddball "Great Power/Great Responsibility" speech out of nowhere, would you shut the fuck up?
suck my dick
he is not playing a norman osborn magneto or blue marvel
You didn't have it chopped off yet? I'm not sucking some organ you pickled in a jar.
heard he might be voice acting annihilus
suck my dick and ass cheeks bitch
MCU Spider-Man strikes me as something that could be improved by NOT being so tied to the rest of the MCU and be allowed to develop its own stories/lore. Even though I loved Mysterio in Far From Home, the movies always feel like some afterthought to the rest of the MCU.
I recall the 90s cartoon, which ended up doing the same by introducing more and more Marvel characters in a crossover after another that smelled of attempts at building up an animated universe like the DCAU. But even then, those crossovers happened late into the show, after Spider-Man and his cast were already established. Compare that to Far From Home, which has Spider-Man disclosing his identity to the world... what, two years into his superhero career?
Esposito is a fucking latino, he's more spaniard and amerindian than black, like, he's 8% black at best
They're getting rid of his secret identity because it doesn't make sense in the MCU for him to have it. I agree that the MCU elements are hurting Spider-man more than helping. He's worked well in the team-up movies, however it's not good for his solo flicks. He seeks the approval of adults too much and comes off like a bitch. I was so annoyed with him making his suit to the music from Iron Man. Fuck that shit.
I really wish that had never happened, the metaphor just makes no fucking sense at this point.
The amoeba analogy is perfect. It devoured and consumed and made the Marvel universe a one dimensional mess.
It never did make any sense. And the franchise was built on crazy sci-fi. You can gauge who’s a true X-Fag and who’s just a LARPing faggot or just a self-inserting nigger by it.
Thank goodness.
I mean I guess, it would not really change that much if anything.
I'm saying why not just give them all the Captain America treatment?
Imagine looking at a franchise of superheroes that have close relationships with space bird, whose most famous story is a bout a cosmic firebird and whose villain gallery consists of demons and parasitic aliens and going "hey this is the perfect allegory for minorities"
X-Men fans would be angry. Wanda fans and Avengers fans are pretty happy with her not being used as a plot device and prop for Magneto's man pain.
>X-Men fans would be angry
what else is new?
Fuck off will never happen will make it work with space travel accident/time travel snafu. Cable literally is all about time traveling.
I know user, I know. But try telling them that... It doesn't even make sense from a narrative's POV, let alone how well it fits with the actual lore. I mean, Hell, your main character's dad is a space pirate and his son, who he had with a clone of his first love, is a time traveller who's older than his dad and giths against his clone raised by an ancient mutant who was modified by Space Gods. But nah, it's about them niggers and sheeeeiiiii-
I believe Cards Against Humanity changed that.
my name be Tyrone Deshaun. I’ve been a sonderkommando at auschwitz fo' almost two years. I watched thousands o' thugs, biatches, n' children walk ta their muthafuckin' deaths. I pulled their muthafuckin' bodies from da gas chambers. I dug out their muthafuckin' teeth so tha germans could take their muthafuckin' gold. N' i carried 'em ta da ovens, Where the fuck i learned how tha fuck ta combine a child’s body wit' an old man’s ta make 'em burn betta. I saw my fuckin' fellow black workers buried alive unda an avalanche o' rottin' corpses. I saw thousands o' murdered people burnin' in giant outdoor pits. I have peep at least a quarta million dead huthug beings wit' my fuckin' own eyes…and i couldn’t save a single one
It's far too problematic, because it was clearly a black on black genocide. Whites didn't help and some of the tension was from colonial periods, but still it was blacks doing the killing, directed by blacks. There's just no way to rewrite that into whites being completely responsible.
Also jews letting any other genocide steal spotlight from the holocaust is never going to happen.
Imagine them doing Rwanda or Bosnia and having quips during or right after the flashback.
I'm okay with revamping it, and Giancarlo's a good actor, but fuck doing the Rwandan Genocide route. Why not just go balls to the wall with the Civil Rights Movement allegory that X-Men started out with and make him a survivor of that?
Romani is tribe of pakistanis that were so shitty other pakistanis exiled them and they wandered and brought crime with them along the silk road eventually reaching north and west europe
>Why not just go balls to the wall with the Civil Rights Movement allegory that X-Men started out with
>that X-Men started out with
no fuck you. Go sit on an iron cock.
But how will his choice to become a villain be because of Tony Stark?
Stark was a closet racist who was bombing Africa every other day of the week.
Fine, you can have Blagneto
Make Storm a jewish girl in return!
>Rwandan Genocide
I mean, I'm cool with it.
LOL
Two things
1.Jewish boys love hot black chicks who can barely speak english
2.You know as well as I do that Storm is too low on the totem poll in terms of power for them to make her jewish.
If anything they'll make Xavier a jewish woman.
>too low on the totem poll in terms of power
>omega level weather manipulation mutant
!?
She's a foot soldier, not "powerful" in the hands off kind of way that princess type chicks like.
Just do it like evolution did and present him as old almost dying guy who got rejuvenate during the plot. The tech already exists in endgame.
Also: mutants has always existed in mcu but the ancient one removed everyones memory from them existences. Wanda will break that spell and start the mutant plot.
Other good option is the mutants showing up like mutations from supersoldier serum, like ultimate.
Will I become a superhero if I survive the white genocide?
user, at a certain point.
WW2 and holocaust stories are going to start getting on people's nerves.
I miss when Magneto was just evil becuase he thought that mutants were homo superior.
Fucks sake his homo superior am da greetest shpiel and his story about being an aushwitz survivor are completely at odds with each other.
He'd be a rabid violent animal more then a noble savage type character.
>Fucks sake his homo superior am da greetest shpiel and his story about being an aushwitz survivor are completely at odds with each other.
Only when he goes to genocidal extremes.
If he just wants to dominate the humans because they can't be relied upon to be tolerant that makes some sense. The holocaust is proof humans need to be ruled by their superiors, mutant world domination is Tikkun Olam.
Logan doesn't age due to his healing factor. Giving a healing factor to Charles eliminates the iconic wheelchair.
Why is there a disembodied hand on his shoulder?
Says the cuck obsessed with defending Disney for free.
It’s better than being a limp wristed jackass who has nothing better to do than whine about a company that millions of other people enjoy.
Was Magneto a ginger?
They have a Quicksilver from another universe in MoM reveal that the stones just activated their x gene. Or hell, if that triggers the hysterical Wanda fans, it activated his x gene and her womayn mother-to-daughter Magick abilities.
He was when played by Ian Mckellen. I wonder if this will be enough to finally give that ginger erasure user an aneurism.
Sorry I meant Michael Fassbender. Not based Sir Ian Mckellen. I just woke up.
They have gotten rid of the wheel chair in the comics several times. As recently as now in HoX/PoX.
No user, you’ll be put in a zoo so that the superior races have something to point at when they recall the before times and hope your kind never has dominion again.
This is especially the case since Chthon is likely the villain in WandaVision, given Feige and Olsen emphasized the significance of the title "Scarlet Witch", which in mystical terms means "sorceress who wields dark magic." Chthon pretty much takes Magneto's role of abusive dad and connection to Wanda's powers, making him redundant.
She’s been both a leader of the X-men (even when she was powerless) and a queen of Wakanda. That’s not a foot soldier in the least.
That being said, I agree there is no way in hell they are making Storm anything but a pure black woman. Being a powerful black woman is the selling point of her character and the outcry (even if it was just to make her Jewish) would deafen all of Hollywood.
Great. Now I feel fucking old.
Just make Xavier and Magneto get anti-aging shit on one of their adventures together when they were still friends.
For real. A talking raccoon and a living planet is a okay, but two evolved beings living decades longer and in better health than the normal man is a step too far!
>more of a betrayal of the concept than a black Magneto ever would be.
jesus christ you people need to chill out. "betrayal".
YEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS...make the main villain a black man, and show the heroes kick the shit out of him...the sjw's will implode on their own contradiciton!
>is better to be a submissive bitch unconditionally defending trash than sharing your opinions about something you dislike
Maybe for someone with no self respect.
People take their identity politics very seriously, left or right wing. Americans can think of nothing else since Obama was elected.
>Disney fucking up again
Not news.
>Holocaust was 80 years ago, meaning that Mags would need to be at least 85 or 90 to still be a kid and remember it vividly
>There's literally survivors alive today walking around
>Magneto is a mutant with super evolved DNA
>Their best idea isn't to just say that he and other mutants age slower than regular humans
Just say that's the next step in evolution. You're already ignoring science of it anyways, so why not take that opportunity?
Thanks for the reminder that First Class used WW2 better than First Avenger. Cap vs Hydra was no different from GI Joe vs Cobra, meanwhile Magneto was hunting down Nazis like James Bond. You can't just divorce Magneto from his backstory.
Fassbender in the nazi bar scene was fucking kino. MCU Magneto should channel the energy of this scene.
MCU Cap never fought actual Nazis or even the actual German army
Why did Feige allow this?
I agree it’s hard to Say it isn’t probable when 1. X-Men is all about time travel Fuckery, and even in the 90s magneto was in his 50s and/or 60s and still was ripped
Blade should not just be Black. Anyone from Britain can play him . His origin/character are nothing to do with him being black. Unlike Luke Cage and Black Panther.
You can share your opinions about something you dislike, that's fine.
Just stop being a faggot about it.
Is it just my imagination, or is someone making this same thread every week?
No, they probably are, but to be fair threads get archived quite quickly around here. I’d like to see how far we can take these conversations.
>They're getting rid of his secret identity because it doesn't make sense in the MCU for him to have it.
Explain to me how a wanted fugitive framed for the drone strike on London is going to be able to finish high school and get his diploma. Tell me how Peter being able to live any kind of life while outed makes sense.
You may have been born in the 90's or oughts and only know the movies and think mutants are supposed to represent gays, but that guy is talking about the comics which began in the 60's and he is correct.
What part of "Never forget" do you not understand?
I don't care if it's 80 years ago or 800 years ago, you are going to be forced to hear about it.
They'll just do some time portal de-age thing like they did in the comics anyway.
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He's not correct, you zoomer faggot. Muties began as a sci-fi book. Their core lore is about space birds and gods. All your "muh razizm" is revisionism brought upon by faggots who atched the flicks, and Lee piggybacking on it.
Isn't Magneto's helmet specifically so he won't be affected by Xavier's "mental emanations"?
The tolerance message of X-Men was subtext, then it became text. As in so much media, subtlety has been jettisoned our the window.
The way HoX and PoX present a more segregationist X-Men perhaps reflects the change in today's SJWs attitude in contrast to 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s liberals.
Identity politics has taken hold now, and the Hickman's Magnus Opium reflects that perfectly.
>Implying people over 60 can't be ripped
This fucker is 73 and look at him
If the reason for the race swap is because the times need to line up to modern day, and they use something like the Rwandan Genocide it would actually make sense for it to be a race swap and I wouldn't be mad.
Wait you mean he can control metal/magnetic fields AND he lives longer? That's just unrealistic
shields are built to protect you from swords, but that doesn't mean you wouldn't feel a sword if it hit you
Anyone else think that in modern times the Xmen would be seem as privileged for having fucking super powers and SJWs would be against them.
But he was malcom x
huh. Good analogy, makes sense.
Rwandan genocide was widely reported its more stage light than african history
>Given how few people are actually aware of the Rwandan Genocide, I'm cool with this
But they can't make white people the bad guys if they use the Rwandan Genocide.
They were created at the height of the civil rights movement, and They're about people who were born differently and struggle to find their way in a society that hates them. The first story to involve them going into space didn't happen until the late 1980s, almost 30 goddamn years after they were created
>Anyone else think that in modern times the Xmen would be seem as privileged for having fucking super powers
That is the main, in-universe reason everyone hates mutants, yeah.
There's several people on tumblr that want this unironically mostly because of the amount of characters it would change down the family tree.
Then again they also think Kitty and Rogue are black.
I mean look at Young Justice.
Why can't they handle a plethora of characters?
>/pol/ defending a jewish-gispy character
almost funny
>whites didn’t participate
France notoriously continued to provide supplies to the Rwandan government while the genocide was occurring, there have been inquiries and investigations into French cooperation and training of Hutu militia personnel including an inquiry in France opened just this year. To be clear I’m not saying France actively took part in any killings, but material assistance to and training of the perpetrators at the time leading up to the events, when intelligence reports about militias readying themselves were coming in and continuing during the killings themselves, means it’s not anywhere near as insular a series of events as commonly assumed. This is different than the UK and US and other countries which did pretty much fuck all, which is shameful but not actively aiding the perpetrators.
>the X-Men universe is almost as big as the rest of the Marvel universe just by itself. One of the biggest boons to the MCU was not having the X-Men be a part of it, swallowing every other continuity into itself
This is a legitimate criticism. Honestly, the mutants would work better as their own separate universe.
Rwandan genocide would be a good update, honestly, I can imagine him using his powers to chop the people who were going to kill him and his family with their own machetes. Only problem is then he's too young to be the magneto we know.
Just give Magneto and Charles extended lifespans due to them meeting some mutant in the past or whatever.
>just make Magneto a Gypsy
That's literally reserved for Doom.
>for the most part most high profile X-men just look like regular white people
Maybe the point that tries to further is they're NO DIFFERENT from the majority despite being mutants?
Stark's father supplied weapons to the government that genocided his people.
Black Rogue makes a lot of sense due to her runaway, trashy background and her incredibly shit taste in men.
user she's trailer trash.
Just make her inner city trash then. All I'm saying is she's one of the few characters you can race swap without changing anything about them.
And during that time they were fighting mummies with no reference to any actual "muh civil rights" issues. Unless, of course, now we're gonna say that Spider-Man was a CR analogy as well. Which has jack to do either way, with the actual intention of their creation, which was to get tons of characters out there with little to no backstory needed.
Let’s not fuck with Blade he’s pretty much one of the best black and British characters
Magneto? More like Nognegro.
But X-Men started in the '60s I think and then it was African American civil rights that were the big debate.