ITT: Plotlines that went nowhere
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Not their fault Miller saw the headlines and stepped in to shut it down
Miller recovered from alcoholism and cancer to tell Tomasi to fuck off
This, thankfully, never ended up happening
...up the butt?
no no my friend they cut the tumor out and put a fedora on it
What the fuck
How did I not even know about this?
It did. They fucked.
The Daemonites getting a massive push early in the New 52 to set up a big event. Then all the wildstorm comics flopped and VooDoo got cancelled for being to sexualized and so went the daemonites push.
Also, what the fuck happened to Midnighter?
At some point someone is going to use this. Then again the baby had purple skin recently.
Waverider came back as the original Booster Gold early in the New 52
This giant ARGUS prison that held meta humans, which also held Darkseid's daughter, but they reconned that.
Is Argus still a thing?
There was the Midnighter & Apollo miniseries coming out of Rebirth that absolutely nobody bought, including goldfish brained critics who were praising Midnighter just a few months before
>Is Argus still a thing?
Only in the Wonder Woman books because Steve Trevor is entirely dependent on it.
I don't think this was supposed to be a plotline, just a character/relationship establishing moment.
Also saying "fuck you" to Tower of Babel.
What is it supposed to be signifying? That she’s a skrull?
Event Leviathan is supposed to be destroying and consolidating all the government agency and spy groups, but it's not like anyone is reading that
Is Legion Lost still a thing.
Also, reminder that Caitlin Fairchild, was in the New 52 and hasn't been seen since Ravanger
All of the existing Legion stuff has been jettisoned
It is because Frank Miller basically told them to stop.
He said in an interview about DC, “Why have Carrie Kelley in your universe when I can make you another comic with Carrie Kelley”
Translation: “Leave my shit alone and I will make another TDK comic.”
>dragon dildo
Yes
During Secret Invasion she was abducted by Jarvis which was actually a Skrull. She was saved and returned to Jessica. This was the last page of that issue and it was never resolved.
It doesn’t help that too much stuff is going on. You got the JL fighting Perfecf Lex and the Legion of Doom, Leviathan, and Bane conquering Gotham all going on at the exact time. It is too crowded.
The far future saga, where /tg/ and /m/ are the last boards left, and locked in a one thousand year battle. Yea Forums and Yea Forums begrudgingly are working together to prevent it from happening. What happened with that run?
Which is kind of stupid considering there aren't that many in play at any given point and each of them do different things.
Without even exaggerating, at least 60% of the stuff that The New 52 was setting up in the first couple years.
And every other Johns JL arc.
One day we'll get a book about what the fuck was going on behind the scenes to justify why so many things were getting dropped.
i think the prevailing theory was that they had carrie kelly plans but then Miller came back and they shelved her and the plots for him
>One day we'll get a book about what the fuck was going on behind the scenes to justify why so many things were getting dropped.
waiting for that book is like 75% of the reason I want to live a long life and not see the earth become a fireball.
Looks cute
I bet it's a trigger to a microbomb in his brain
Probably would have been useful in Metal...
Are you talking about his powers or Red Dawn?
Is that krakkl and fucking pariah in the back?
Oh yea, I totally forgot about her. What was the endgame with her? Was she going to be Tomasi's Robin permanently or just til they gave him the OK to do Robin Rises & bring back Damian?
She was just supposed to tag along for a story over two or three issues, I think it was a Two-Face story.
And there's the little detail of her teaching Damian acting.
She could be his and Jon's tutor or something if they ever fix what Bendis did.
Alexandra Gianopoulos, from Booster Gold's Flashpoint tie-in arc, who was supposed to be a character in the JLI reboot but has not been seen since Flashpoint
Something that’s been completely forgotten, it’s a dang shame
We don't really know what would have ended up happening. It seems like it was originally just a cheeky bait and switch, and Carrie would have been a supporting character who had a friendship with Damian going forward. I doubt she was ever intended to become an actual Robin.
PANDORA
Aquaman, Hawkman, John Jobber and some other guy ha elemental powers at the end of Brightest Day. Then the new 52 happened.
Parallax Before Parallax?
Speaking of who, Zero Hour Parallax that traveled with the Kents from Pre to Post-Flashpoint at the end of Convergence.
Fought with Hal once when he was a space hobo, then just disappeared .
I remember there was some weird plotline with Captain Atom being some "Final Boss of the DC Universe" or something. I think it was in the Bludhaven storytime of pain.
Norman Orsborn stole Peter and MJ's baby
Somewhere, Tom King in seething at this.
The Terrigen Bomb destroyed an entire kingdom of Inhumans and Medusa was going to hold Black Bolt accountable for war crimes because of it.
What was that?
Recent one: Those four Trees from JL: No Justice. There was that Tree of Wonder in JLD, and then the Omega Titans died during the JL Annual last year, and the plot point was dropped.
Gwen Stacy's teenage daughter with Cyclops who could turn into a giant spider with punch vision but had the mind of an infant due to her being one was sent to the X-men school.
>Alexandra Gianopoulos, from Booster Gold's Flashpoint tie-in arc, who was supposed to be a character in the JLI reboot but has not been seen since Flashpoint
And that's good.
There's a giant cult of shapeshifting wasp monsters that have a pathological fear of spider totems embedded in human society.
They don't do much.
Something is telling me Morrison is going to use Parallax.
Ultimate Carnage Gwen
They really should pull that shit in 616 and just somehow revive Gwen as a symbiote hybrid for MJ to wear.
What the fuck happened to Catwoman's Asian girlfriend who was also Catwoman anyway?
I want gwen to die and stay dead and for everyone to find out 616 peter is a clone and that the real spiderman was off in the microverse fighting a carnage babby infected spiderclone for the last few years.
>for MJ to wear
I wasn't with you until this
Mafia boss Catwoman wasn't selling so they wrote her out
You're fucking with me.
I dont think Morrison is going to use him. He goes against a lot of the established lore from the past ~10 years. It makes me sad.
Our lives.
Actually catwoman was hated because of that for a good long while and was pushed firmly into the full on man hating unfuckable unusuable for anything lezbian character pile.
They did everythign the could to write it out and even trippled down on her being a total whore to make her going full butch lez seem like a "oh catwoman, you filthy incorrigible whore" thing and handwaive it.
Had to kill off the I think UNDERAGE asian catwoman sidekick she had.
Owsl- I mean Priest had plans for him.
>Zorro in Arkham? What the fuck does that mean?
>Bruce? are you alright there buddy?
Oh, Goddamn it, Cykes.
it's just a piece of paper that says "martha"
I read the entirety of the original Books of Magic ongoing earlier this year.
That series almost reads like forgotten-plotline after aborted plotline. I only have to assume that outside in-fighting must have forced the plot to change all the time.
For example, after screwing around not really doing much for several RL years, Tim decides he should look for a mentor. He thinks back to the miniseries, and chooses Zatanna as a mentor. He travels to America, and learns that she's not currently in San Francisco. Then he gets sidetracked for about a year, and eventually meets up with her again. She agrees to help him out, but then disappears from the book a few issues later. I bet that she got yanked away from starring in a mature readers book by the editors of the regular DCU.
Here's another loose end. Tim almost died in the first arc of the series. He was stung by a manticore, and his actual father performed a ritual with Death (yes, Death of the Endless) to die in his place. During that time, Tim had a chat with Death. She went through one of her closets, and found an old postcard. This postcard was supposed to be important because Tim still had it when he returned to life. We see Tim putting it in his pocket, and that's it. There were promises in the letters sections from the editor saying that John Ney Riebner had not forgotten about it, but he never mentioned it again. He left the book at issue #50, and Peter Gross wrapped up the last twenty-five issues.
What was the mysterious Death postcard about? Who knows
Relax. She's lab grown. Blame Jackal.
I lost my shit.
Speaking of Jackal, Spidercide still exists and hasn't been seen in over 20 years.
Made me kek
He's dead in a storage tube.
It's a framed picture of Bruce sitting with Dick, Tim and Damian. Not posed, just the four of them watching a movie together, taken by Alfred when no one was looking. There's a bomb inside keyed to detonate when Bruce picks up the picture, and no one else. Bruce doesn't actually know what's inside, only giving Alfred instructions at the time to booby-trap a memento he would be compelled to touch. Don't ask how I know.
>The Cesar Romero one, the Jack Nicholson/Mark Hamill one, and the shitty one nobody fucking liked
Joker cutting his face off was another one.
The funniest part about this is that they have since introduced and killed a 4th Joker..
Soon™
"Who the hell is Connor?" Thing with Tim in Detective Comics, that was suppose to be a big thing they were still doing. Then they were all back in YJ#1 like nothing.
Why was Saturn Girl in Arkahm again?
It's coming as soon as Doomsday Clock is over
So 2022?
Fabok insists that this shit is coming out soon.
Literally just traced Conrad Veidt's face from T"he Man who Laugh" and drew green hair on top.
Shameful.
Something unresolved
Wait, what?
The whole multiple joker thing is so stupid
Somehow the world's gretaest detective did not realize that three different people who clearly have different DNA/Fingerprints & other biometric data are not the same person. Nor did anybody else
>I...It...Its an homage
>Bruce has access to the God of Knowledge's Moebius Chair
>asks about the Joker
>Gets confusing answer
>never asks a single follow up question
Worlds. Greatest. Detective.
Actually almost anything from Flash Rebirth
It was resolved by Ben Reilly during the Clone Saga via Avengers - it's just another Spider-Clone
That's dumb.
Spiders don't have skeletons.
Well technically speaking they kinda do, it's just external.
Clones become goop when they die though
So, the minute Miller croaks, DC starts to rape his legacy again.
This is one of Jackal's originals from the very first clone story. It had been at the bottom of a smokestack.
Funny how Tim got rebooted yet again recently...what is this, the third or fourth version of him? We even had one during Lemire's shitty Nu52 JLA Dark....
Yes but you’re forgetting the most important fact user.
There’s a skeleton inside you. And it’s clicking and clacking, rattling and jangling about all the time, with its flappy, snappy bones clattering inside you!
New 52 Legion Lost actually did get resolved.
They reunited with the team and went Back to the Future in Lemire's incredibly bland Justice League United.
>box contains Batman's fatal-weakness
Its amazing that Batman could fit literally everything capable of killing a normal dude into one tiny box.
>Yea Forums is about to give me a new fetish
oh shit
Is that Steve Trevor?
What are those? Suitcases that kill members of the JLA or something?
my nigga this is what Jerry Robinson did the first time around.
Lmao
This is sad. DC Comics just really sounds like it's dying a sad death and going out with a whimper.
Less "went nowhere" than "dropped before even seeing print."
The border characters were meant to join/appear in New 52 Justice League, but ended up being cameos or just not appearing at all.
Remember Element Woman? And that's Ryan by the way. Ray was in the Frankenstein book.
Oh, and the white haired girl is Lady Luck, who ended up only even appearing as a cameo in Phantom Stranger.
Carrie Kelly is just a normal human robin. What could they possibly have been planning with her that was so influential across the entire new 52?
retard
Wtf-so not only is Cat a hooker but she's also a lesbo? Brucey baby what is you doin
is this current continuity? 3 jokers? What are the DC editors doing!?!??!?!?
Harper Row, Duke and any other the other sidekicks push post new52.
Duke is still around, defiantly refusing to catch on no matter how they try to sell him.
The current pathetic strategy is to attach him to Cass, a character DC has desperately tried to destroy for over a decade.
Cass? Cassandra Cain? Why they try to get rid of her?
She's not Barbara
He hasn't been the world's greatest detective since the mid-2000s.
It was one of the failed clones
Joker at some point convinced a crazy dude to get cosmetic surgery to become another Joker to fuck with Harley. Harley killed him.
This happened after 3 Jokers was introduced as a concept and had nothing to do with it.
that would have worked so much better then batman/catwoman
Not something they completely forgot about, but something that wasn't handled well:
Snyder made Bruce and Damian have an off-panel falling out at the end of No Justice. The Teen Titans kind of touched on that, but Batman comics never mentioned anything until Tomasi got detective comics several months later and solved the conflict with Bruce asking Damian if they can sort out their issues and then solving them off-panel.
element woman had a story with the Doom Patrol, kind of
Boxes containing Batman's countermeasures. He used them in Forever Evil. They were pretty shit desu.
Superman's was a kryptonite ring because of course. Ultraman just snorts that shit up.
The Flash had a lightning rod from the future, I don't think he ever used it on Johnny Quick but Luthor ended up using it to beat Mazahs.
Green Lanterns was a yellow lantern ring with 10% charge. Bruce tried to use it but it didn't do shit and Sinestro had to bail him out.
Aquaman and Batman didn't have theirs revealed.
Cyborgs was a mother motherbox iirc. I don't remember exactly.
He didn't have one for Wonder Woman either and was counting on Superman to take care of her just in case.
As I read these out I realise that Johns is a bit of a hack
Bendis shits on everything yet again.
Who knows Doomsday Clock probably isn't gonna explain it, and Bendis is definitely gonna ignore it.
He went on the run with Maximus and after Secret Wars she ended up chucking him while he ran a nightclub for some reason.
What was up with the night club BTW? Can anyone explain that?
Was genuinely excited to read those comics.
Had no expectations of actually becoming part of the batfamily, but seeing her interact with others in the universe seemed fun.
Then her entire existence got blinked out
There's a bunch of Remender plot points from when he left. A bunch of them have been resolved but clearly not in the intended way.
Remember how Havok and Wasp were married with a kid?
>At the end of Batman #691 Dick finds a USB in his robin display that has the case file for his parents murder that Bruce had hidden away for unknown reasons.
While I wasn't thrilled his origin might be revisited yet again it doesn't make sense for Dick to not follow up on it.
>she's also a lesbo?
She is bi if anything.
That's not tracing, that's using a reference. Just because you saw the Greg Land Screencap doesn't mean every artist is tracing. Why is this board so stupid?
are Selina and Bruce still together? Kinda not been reading for a while.
When did you stop reading? The wedding didn't happen in issue #50. Selina left Bruce at the altar and ran away. She reappeared in issue #75 to help Bruce, but he's still unconscious and they haven't talked yet.
I did say it was an homage, didnt I ?
>When did you stop reading?
not too long after the proposal
She's still around. She showed up to Selina's bachelorette party.
Nice moment in theory, but completely shits all over his character. The reason he never makes a contingency for himself is the same reason he made them to begin with
Priest denied that. He just didn't go anywhere with it because shit was rebooted with Emerald Twilight shortly afterwards and Priest quit the book before he could go with his actual plans.
Ah ok. I assume they will get back together again in some way or form, but they are not currently in a relationship.
But he always makes contingency for himself. That's the point of the whole thing. Batman doesn't hate the Justice League. Nor is envious of them. If anything, he admires them. The contingency plans are just check and balance because they hold too much power. Himself included. They need to be stopped in case of going rogue. Something that can happen easily thanks to mind control.
They got 3 runs ready to print the moment the doctor calls it.
reminder that Caitlin Fairchild is my waifu and was in a Supergirl teaser and the Wildstorm 25th anniversary book
As a member of a covert super team doesn't she KNOW FOR A FACT that the world is run by a hidden network of conspiracies, though?
>I assume they will get back together again in some way or form
Lets hope not.
>Jackal made a hybrid clone of Cyclops, Spider-Man, and judging by her human form’s blonde hair Gwen Stacy as well
>neither Peter nor Scott seem to be aware that she exists, and if they are they don’t acknowledge it at all.
Life must suck when you have two deadbeat dads and a literally dead mom
She was brought to Wolverine's school, so Cyclops gave some fuck at least.
I said that's what I assume is going to happen, not that that's what I want to happen. I found their reasons to get married weird and the fact that it was pretty easy for Bane to manipulate Selina to cancel the wedding makes it even more obvious that it's a bad idea.
I mean she supposedly flunked out afterwards according to Tom Brevoort. It wouldn’t surprise me if she ended up getting randomly killed by the Terrigen Cloud like a bunch of other mutants did.
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Is a reference the head is on a different position and its not one to one, this one its the same angle and expression with some details added in.
I guess Alex Ross is a shit artist and a trade my hack huh?
Originally Uncanny Inhumans was suppose to star Black Bolt and be set in street level setting, I think club owner Black Bolt was going to be the story.
I sincerely believe the recent Ben Reilly was supposed to be Spidercide, but everyone figured it out thanks to the shitty costume and they changed the plan.
Besides an entire event? Trinity War into Forever Evil.
>Ultimate Carnage Gwen
What was dropped about that? they repeated over and over that they extracted carnage from Gwen and her body became stable
What Bendis actually dropped was Furry MJ
I mean, the kid got yeerted along with that entire future when they beat the apocalypse twins and Havok and Wasp broke up definitely during AXIS.
The Harley book isn't cannon user.
Is it just me or are loose ends that went nowhere mostly DC. While Marvel has some sort of conclusion like "than he died".
And the loose ends with DC are mostly set up as mystery plot hooks as Marvel just have a cameo thing?
No one raped his legacy worse than Miller himself
Not anymore. Leviathan wipes them out along with all the other secret organizations
Nah there are plenty of Marvel plotlines that went nowhere. Remember Black Swan from Hickman’s Avengers having the DNA of her race saved inside her so she could bring them back later? Dropped.
>Our lives
Fuck you user.
Ok, But was this a mayor plotline mystery that needed to be solved like the 4 jokers in Rebirth?
Not saying that you are wrong.
if nothing else it solves the massive narrative plot hole of Joker being a world class mass murderer but some how being not a justice leauge threat
a murder joker, a ganster joker, and a crime joker solve the narrative dissonance between the three
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Brevoort continues to be scum
I thought it was Suicide Squad Guy
...
Speaking of Captain Atom, they also introduced his son, who looks like he starts to develop powers similar to his dad.
Considering they went back to CA's normal design rather than the new one the mini introduced, I guess they're ignoring that. .
Yeah, but that was it, done. Why did Earth-3 coming to main Earth require Pandora this time around? Why was she shown as the new timeline/universe formed at the end of Flashpoint? None of it was needed or went anywhere after TW/FE.
Marvel used to be like this, and in recent years the higher-ups at DC included some of the same people who ran Marvel in the 90s.
Is crime joker the actual comedy-themed Joker?
And nobody fucking mentioned it ever again
I still enjoy the implication that somewhere in Gotham there's a store that sells the slutty Robin costumes that none of them actually wore in universe now.
>but Luthor ended up using it to beat Mazahs.
I thought Luthor beat Mazahs by the retarded fact that they apparently have the exact same voice, despite being in different bodies, so Luthor could "MAZAHS" and cause Mazahs to transform back, and then Luthor could kill him.
That's not what those are
That wasn't dropped, it was central to Death of the Family
Yeah I've always wondered about this as a casual fan. Joker has like threatened Gotham's entire populace and even gone on mass murders before, yeah? I know, I know, comic books, but seriously why hasn't the Justice League thrown him in Superman's closet? Seems weird that Joker's treated in-universe like a street level villain when his big plots are just below cosmic level.
Evil Clone Voodoo gathering a Daemonite army
You now remember Helspont.
Back in 2013 during the NEw 52 DC was going to introduce Superman:TAS Volcana into the mainstream universe in Superboy and Supergirl, however they never refer to her by her name and outside tow single appereances she was never mentioned or used again.
I don't like how comics are just starting to blend together to me. Like this page, looks like a hundred other pages, eye candy woman, panels with text over a TV or scenery, then the obligatory close up of an ugly face.
Why don't they experiment more? Is this really what the audience that consumes comics wants?
That was a fucking awesome fight, it was straight out of DBZ. I had such high hopes for Lobells run after that and everything after that was shit.
There were a fuck ton of 90s Marvel plots that went nowhere. Like that one Spiderman guy during the Clone Spiderman arc who was a time traveller or some shit
Johns did a lot of great things during his time of the New 52, but his JL sucked a cock
Did they ever explain how Two Face came back from the dead after he shot himself in the head?
It will. Even though they're kicking King off of the main book, they're letting him finish his planned arc (which he said would have some kind of lasting mark on the character (lol)) in some kind of mini called Batman & Catwoman or something.
No idea, dropped the book once i saw they weren't following through with storylines
Johns didn’t do anything great
For the best. Nobody even knows what the void's suppoesed to be anyway.
Like half of these are from The Spider-Man Clone Saga, and that was prolonged by Bob Harras.
Guess who WB appointed to be EiC of DC Comics in 2010?
He stuck the lightning rod in him to make sure the lightning hit iirc
His Aquaman run was great
So is she or is she not some lol Xd so random carpet muncher?
It was good, but the following Parker run was an instant improvement.
>It's just a gun
I mean seriously, what else could be in there? Controlling interest in Wayne enterprises?
I mean, they kinda *had* to drop Bluebirb, y'know? At best she was Skub and at her worst she was toxic.
In comparison, Duke's problem is he just kinda... exists, really. He's trapped in that kind of weird limbo where they want to do something with the character but it almost always fails miserably.
I've not read Batbooks in a while- can somebody catch me up to his latest gimmick? Is he still using those retarded kama-things?
>Synder's most enduring Batman sidekick is going to be a Starro clone
Man, I loved Forever Evil, but for some reason, they used it to sort of kill of Vibe. I mean, he was stuck in the Firestorm Matrix alongside everyone else, but when they got released, he ain't nowhere to be seen
pandora was trying to stop manhattan its why she added vertigo and wildstorm to earth-0 as manhattan changed things
Huh, forgot that.
Ah.
Currently, Duke is a metahuman with "Ray"-like abilities (that were awakened in Metal event). During an arc (that's a prelude to B&O) he was taken out by a villain who was targeting Bat-Family members that were still in Gotham. Duke got his ass blasted by the villain, and has since been traumatized. Cass has been trying to get him to cope, but future solicitations show that Duke falls to the tempation of Ra's.
Forever Evil was great
Who even is that supposed to be?
It's all moot now but I honestly would like to get some official word about how this was going to play out
Who is that? Wonder Woman's boy toy, Steve... whoever?
steve trevor
It was all actually answered in her Future's End issue. Of course, that was just ignored afterwards and she was randomly killed to hype Manhattan.
Is it a link to 50 ways Superman could kill Batman video?
Yeah, Books of Magic has been kinda shit outside of the original miniseries and Life During Wartime.
Lasting mark on the character? I would be happier if it turns out this has been an elseworld story all along and we can all pretend it never happened. Then again, it's comics, if you ignore something hard enough it should go away on it's own.
Ra's has taken in quite a lot of the batkids over the year. I'm not sure if all of that is still canon but off the top of my head: Cassandra, Jason, Damian and now Duke.
Red Robin? Did he purchase a burger joint or something?
Bendis set up Dani Cage to be a Skrull and nothing happened.
Immortus basically told them when/where to bang to ensure they give birth to Hope, but they never did. And did anybody in-universe recognize the inverted heroes were not acting normal? Is Sabertooth still inverted? How did Havok revert his personality? I know Marvel was pushing the "their personalities weren't changed, it's who they are now" but I don't know if they really stuck to their guns on it. Characters clearly hated Superior Tony up until Secret Wars but I don't recall if anybody tried to help him.
>Malvolio
Just one of many dropped plot points from the late 80's to early 90's GL.
I could've sworn this was someone else and not Steve.
I miss her, bros.
Yeah, basically it's supposed to be golden age Joker who is based off of him.
Aren't most villains absolutely terrified of him though?
That doesnt make a 4th Joker a thing any more than the Fake Joker stand in in Arkham during The Killing Joke counts as The Joker.
Whatever happened to those two Justice League 3001 members in pic related
Popped up at the end of Gillen's Blue Beetle run where the future shit got wrapped up
why is green lantern cosplaying as the Phantom?
Why does Larfleeze look totally different in every single appearance? I swear, he has the most inconsistent design of any comic book character ever created.
It's an alternate dimension lantern called Lord Malvolio that overcame the yellow impurity of his ring, gained immortality and became the supreme dictator and god-emperor of his realm. He was created by Christopher Priest in Action Comics 632 to 635. Sadly, he has never been mentioned up again nor his appereances reprinted.
she was gonna fuck EVERYBODY
the difference is it'll be the best drawn Miller stuff ever
it actually is
Didn't Hal take and use his Ring? Before the whole Parallax retcon I thought it was implied that Hal using Lord Malvolio's ring helped cause he's insanity
no.
I will never not be bummed that they didn't do anything with ultimate Peter's weird Scorpion Clone. I was hoping Fury would at least use it for his howling commandos or something.
>Didn't Hal take and use his Ring?
Yes
>Before the whole Parallax retcon I thought it was implied that Hal using Lord Malvolio's ring helped cause he's insanity
After Hal had been buried as a villain Priest said that it was an easy fix since he's using Malvolio's ring but it was useless to point out since Marz & Dooley were 100% committed to pushing Kyle as 'the one true Green Lantern' (and cashing participation checks).
>participation checks
say what you like about the big 2's treatment of creators, but Marvel not paying participation means it doesn't have this problem of creators totally overwriting everything that went before and killing any possibility of coherent continuity
The Ultimates from 1610 hunting Makers at the end of Ewing's Ultimates2. It pisses me off because it's such a cool premise, but no one picked it up.
Hopefully at some point he will at least mention what happened with that.
...
yes.
She is, but her book is noncannon.
thats future Larf
Apparently people used to speculate that this guy was the reason Hal became Parallax
Which sucks because Helspont is fucker baller
Bendis said he literally did it just to have a wacky twist at the end and that it wasn't actually indicative of anything beyond that. It was just Bendis being a hack like usual and not an actual plotline so she's not a Skrull.
>book gets retooled to look more like Harry Potter in 2001
>That premise gets tossed out immediately
I thought everything was canon because something something multiverse. DC needs to make up its fucking mind.
By which I mean DC needs a hard reset. Banish everything to Limbo and start over.
>Then again, it's comics, if you ignore something hard enough it should go away on it's own.
Very true
She was supposed to be Two-faces bastard daughter with the Irish Mob twin, it was gonna tie into zero year, but Miller nuked it.
What do mean dropped It’s the current plot of the current 3 justice league books.
Harper Row retired in Batman and Robin Eternal to not a dropped plot but an ending.
Duke Thomas was in All Star Batman, then the Signal mini series and is now in Batman and the Outsiders.
So not a dropped plot.
Snyder realized that’s Tomasi was a glorified backup writer and promptly ignored it.
Does pretty much the entirety of Future's End count as a dropped plot?
This entire fucking comic
If I remember correctly, this was a dream sequence and they all woke up in the good ol' 90s, with Clinton in the white house and xxxtreem comics everywhere.
Remember whe nthe Justice League (of America) met their future children from an alternate future?
Dropped? Eh, it kind of resolved itself in a dumb way that was supposed to continue in the Batman Beyond book, but no one liked that, so it quietly ended
literally no one was paying any attention to what Hitch was writing in JL, especially since he did similar plots over and over
Bryan Hitch is a fucking retarded hack
This. I dropped it when Hitch came on and the rest of DC just ignored it as it was happening so there was no reason to care
To add to this, I don't think there was ever a more usless, more ignored, JL run than Brian Hitch's run.
Nothing was accomplished, no one acknowledged it, it felt like a completely separate Elseworlds story.
Remember when Bendis introduced Killraven and the Next Avengers, those kids from an obscure animated movie into the 616 and he teased The MArtian War and an Ultron Singularity as THE BIGGEST EVENT coming and then nothing came out? Killraven stayed in the current era while the Kidvengers only showed up in some issues of Avengers World as back-up characters.
>These descriptions
Yeah, I'm glad those were dropped, Jesus.
Killraven was brought back up in Robinson's Invaders.
And the Next Avengers were in fact in Spencer's Avengers World run, which should've been retconned out of existence since the whole "Earths crashing into one another" premise for Hickvengers never happened anymore.
Ah, did they stopped the Martian tripods?
>Listen to me, New Yorkers! Get the hell off the streets!
was it her first time in new york
has Bendis ever been there
see
If I remember correctly, Beetle captured Venom and brought him to Latveria, then a while later Venom (Maybe not Eddie, but someone else as Venom?) fought Miles with no explanation of what happened in the mean time.
This as well as the plot line about things from battle world being scattered over the 616
Justice League 3000/3001 is an entire run of abandoned plot lines.
that looks like a classic "solved in one throwaway panel of a team-up annual" situation to me
nobody cares what happens in events, the worst events are the ones that bloat over onto the rest of the year's output
What the fucking point of making contingency boxes for all your teammates if you're just going to give yours away to one of them?
At that point, if Superman DOES go rogue, he has what is apparently a guaranteed way to incap/kill Bruce, the only person who has the Superman contingency box.
The system only works if either A.You believe yourself to be beyond corruption or B.You believe that the others will be able to handle you in the case that you go rogue (As is the case in the cartoon)
the whole thing just felt like a movie pitch in comic format. I even remember him calling it/DC pushing it as a "CINEMATIC" comic experience
What happened with the 3 different Jokers thing?
Hitch was the guy who jumped off widescreen/cinematic comics, that's just his style
Havok got mind-raped back to normal.
Sabretooth sacrificed his humanity to stop Stryker's latest resurrection (speaking of, nothing came of the reveal that he didn't kill his son) and to save his and Mystique's son from Hell (nothing's come of that either).
And boomers who were reading 90s comic tell me the breakdown of this dude and why the story was dropped?
Doomsday Cock and Tom King happened
Bendis is never getting back to the arson storyline, is he?
Didn't Cyke take it into his head, with the justification of "I've boned telepathic bitches exclusively all my life, I know how to guard my fucking mind so that's the safest place to put the Void"?
Yeah but I wish Bruce met his great great great granddaughter
people think the protagonist of Millennium might be that fire fighter
Like half the shit set up by Humphries in Green Lanterns. Baz's Emerald Sight shit wound up going absolutely nowhere.
The Monarch plotline that got changed because people figured it out? That's way older than the Bludhaven crap, but I may be wrong and you meant something else.
In general, they just don't know what to do with Captain Atom. He's Monarch, no he's not, he's related to Breach somehow, no he's not, he fucks off to Wildstorm, returns, wait he's Monarch this time for real, then he's Dr. Manhattan Lite, then he's not.
This is only tangential, but I used to be a huge DP mark, and stuck with it even through Way's run, but fell off for unrelated reasons shortly after the start of Duggan/Posehn. So I've been trying to catch up, and fucking hell, they put him everywhere in the events and teams, and it's a pain to follow him. Why the fuck did I have to read Axis, Uncanny Avengers, Pleasant Hill, all that shit.
I don't know if it's a mostly DC thing but based what's been said so far in this and other threads it seems to have been a big problem with the New 52.
Red Mist was the responsible.
Right?
Way's Deadpool established tht Norman Osborn developed a cure for cancer and he used to kill Deadpool
New52 started with a million promises, hints at new versions of old stories, the implications of characters from different worlds now coexisting, etc.
Most of it was so poorly executed that it didn't take long for most books to try to get back to a facsimile of the old or mainstream status quo, and all the promises either got quickly and half-assedly tied up, or forgotten entirely.
Yeah well, a lot of people have cures for cancer in Marvel, but they don't share them or people don't take them because "huuuuh?"
>I don't wanna cure cancer, I want to turn people into dinosaurs
>I wanna kill Deadpool
>Non-Wakandan nations don't deserve it yet
>Alien medicine/Magical healing is for weirdos, here we fight cancer the old fashioned way!
This actually confirms Wakanada's approach.
Imagine if Osborn weaponizes AIDS or autism.
>Red Mist was the responsible.
>Right?
Was she? The last I remember was the black kid saying he saw Superman do it, only to turn around and say he lied or something.
desu I completely forget she's a character that exists until she shows up.
What does he think of the TTGO version?
I'm kind of surprised they stopped doing stories where Superman fights corruption.
>I mean she supposedly flunked out afterwards
That was Marvel code for a soft retcon. She had the mind of an infant. She couldn't flunk out of jack or shit.
>Plotlines that went nowhere
Pretty much all of McDuffie's JL run, senpai.
Deadpool isn't actually Wade Wilson. He's just an evil crazy dude that stole the identity of Wade Wilson.
for what purpose?
I actually just finished reading this. The only interesting reveal was Hippolyta but the rest was pretty lame.
He was until he jobbed and got killed by Red Hood, Red Arrow, and Starfire.
>goes from this to being killed by RHatO.
Jesus.
New 52 was poorly planned.
I dunno. This is Wade Wilson incidentally. Deadpool killed him when he stole his identity and then he got superpowers and came back pissed. He's currently dead and hasn't come up in a while mostly due to the whole his existence means Deadpool's just crazy and evil, but Marvel's been pushing the whole reformed Deadpool angle for a while.
It's better that way. Such a thing only worked back when Deadpool was a new character.
I will never not be mad
Pretending your backstory isn't a thing isn't "better". If they wanted to do right by the characters they would do an in universe retcon, either a reality warp or reveal elements to be lies, or fuck, do a redemption arc.
yes
And thank Fuck for that.
>New 52
>planned
pick one
Wakanda doesn't have a cure for cancer. Yes, I've read that page too.
Also, we have cures for certain types of cancer right now, we just can't cure the whole thing because it doesn't work that way. In a few decades we should get rid of most forms of cancer anyway (not bring optimistic, just realistic).
I doubt that’s what happened
I recall in his last appearance or so, his story of being the real Wade was dubious as well, and they both kinda agreed that it didn't matter.
Deadpool's entire career has been a long, wobbly redemption story.
Also, DP's backstory gets shuffled around all the time. I think there's 3 separate and mutually exclusive versions of what happened to his parents, the latest being that he killed them under Dr. Butler's orders, then had the memories of it erased.
Butler himself seems to have replaced Killbrew in DP's backstory. And that's just the tip of the retcon iceberg.
also this
>Deadpool's entire career has been a long, wobbly redemption story.
Step one of a good redemption is always confronting your past so you can move on. Fix what you can. Live with what you can't.
None of Deadpool's redemption years have actually had with him dealing with how he ended up where he is. In that respect he's always 1 bad writer away from being sent back to square 1.
Don't get me wrong, you can't good deed your bad deeds away can make for a compelling character who knows they're damned but keeps doing good anyways because who gives a shit, redemption isn't the point, doing good is, but it can't make for a redeemed character.
That's why it's really fucking hard to redeem killers.
That was retconned. Although it was all part of the same run, so I'm not sure if it even counts as a retcon.
And they event talked about it again later in Cable & Deadpool to drive the point home since some fans thought that was too vague.
It's a cock ring made of kryptonite isn't it
I dun get it
Gosh shes sexy.
Near the end of C&D they had another fight, because for some reason DP had no soul and he ended up sharing T-Bone's soul.
Anyway, they treated it like it was still an open question
And for what it's worth, current canon is he killed his parents when he was already Deadpool, but was under Butler's control at the time. I think his backstory is irreconcilable at this point.
All versions of Toyman were retconned to be just his robots. That's pre-flashpoint though. Hiro Okamura still did appear in a pre-flashpoint Superman/Batman arc right afterwards which just ignored that though. And, of course, post-flashpoint that concept hasn't been acknowledged at all, with Hiro now going by Toymaster too.
What was with DC and trying to retcon villians variants as being robots of the original?
Toyman, Brainiac, I think there were others
All Geoff Johns.
The God of Light?
Yes, because unlike most other villlains, Joker is basically a wild card. The fucker would strap a kryptonite dildo to Metallo and have him butt fuck Superman to death if he thought he could get a few laughs out of it.
I mean now I kind of want to see what would happen if Tomasi had free reign to do what he wanted
>that page
I'm lucky I hadn't taken a full swig of my drink
>/tg/ and /m/ are the last boards left
...I'd prefer that to be how this site ends. It's better than the more likely scenarios.
It honestly just feels like the only thing being done with Catwoman anymore is shipping.
I prefer the other explanation
He was retconned to be a Mutant who made people think he was godlike
But Wade's power doesn't come FROM cancer, the cancer's growth is a completely separate side-effect
That's the only thing that has ever been done with her. The only reason even she's relevant. Take the shipping with Batman away and it's limbo for her.
That actually was addressed in YJ #5
I thought she was interesting when she was an actual Batman rogue.
This shit pissed me off so much Hiro didn't have to be a fucking robot in a god damn superman/batman book for gods sake just because someone else took your toys away johns doesn't mean you had to take away someone else's toys fuck you johns
This is still the most egregious case of popularity power I've seen, recently.
She's as good as Batman? Superman would be too slow to stop her from snapping his neck?
The heroes have to talk about how good she is afterwards?
She's just Harley Quinn, people.
mediocre at best but still forgettable shit with sycophantic "feelz"
It's the Ultimate Universe.
Dropped plotlines were everywhere
>Geoff Johns' Green Lantern/Legion of Superheroes/Justice Society/Teen Titans story about magic guys.
I was so hype for it.
How so?
That's all Tomasi does
>Okay so what happened again
>One of my villains combined my dead ex gf's dna with Cyclops's and my own
>She turns into a giant spider and has punch vision
>That's the dumbest goddamn thing i've heard all my fucking life
>Logan, you're descended from wolf people, created Weapon X, have contless children running around including one from that universe Miles is from and one with Mystiqe AND one thats just shown up after from god knows where
Dont talk about forgotten plotlines. This went nowhere!
Osborne DID weaponize AIDS, he gave it to one of Otto's girlfriends
>furry MJ
I need to know what this about man
I heard the good folks at HBO are working on a satisfying conclusion to this while paying the highest of respect and care to Alan Moore's vision
Max Lord?
Does this count as one?
Remember Rise of the Seven Seas?
If its like the last season of Games of Thrones and the ending, than i am happy!
It's his mom's pearls
Unlikely.
I liked that JLA story about Rao.
I guess we're lucky they weren't retconned to be cereals then
I mean... to an outsider who's been told they're all mutants, this might seem shocking.
But actually, there's Magik (really a demon from Limbo who took on the form and personality of [dead] Ilyanna and stole a patchwork soul from various other places), Nightcrawler (son of a demon and I guess of a mutant, but he really only takes after the demon), Wolverine (Wolverine and all the other dog mutants aren't mutants, or are they, what's the fucking deal with Romulus these days anyway), Warlock (not even human), all those other assholes from space like that one Brood or whatever. Jubilee! Is she a mutant again or still just a vampire ex-mutant? Who even cares. Still though, if you found a "mutant" who was really a vampire or an alien with no x-gene at all and you weren't expecting it... but then the denouement of that would be so anticlimactic it's hardly worth a panel. Hey I found a mutant isn't a mutant, yeah, we know, Magneto isn't even one he lost his powers and the High Evolutionary faked them back, pretty sure Quicksilver's powers are from Terrigen now too.
>Hey guy that could literally atomize me from orbit or crush my head in under a nanosecond with a light squeeze, take this thing that will make retarded batfags think that this is the only real weakness I have in a sea of other horrible things you could do to kill me
This is stupid and I'm glad it goes nowhere.
Warlock and Brood are mutant aliens
>gods sake just because someone else took your toys away johns doesn't mean you had to take away someone else's toys fuck you johns
Wait, what happened to Johns?
I needed that laugh
Why would he do that? Goblin and Octopus are on the same side.
You mean the /pol/ocalypse?
AFAIK Romulus was faking the dog people thing to fuck with Wolverine. Wolvie is a regular human mutant as are all dog mutants. Romulus isn't even that old and doesn't have real claws.
are you fucking for real? I need to see this
Mephisto has Rogue's soul, having won it in a 1990s miniseries.
Deadpool has half a soul, because he lost his soul not by any supernatural means but just by being a shitty person. So he and T-Bone split the latter's soul and shared it.
X-Men and X-Men adjacents get this kind of shit a lot.
Priest has stated that he DID plan on bringing back Malvolio in the 90s. He pitched a book with D/C-List heroes led by Malvolio which would close off the dangling plotline involving the ring swap, as a favor to DC editorial due to the fact that fans kept pushing the "out" to redeem Hal by claiming Malvolio caused Emerald Twilight.
The series would have revealed that Malvolio was really a good guy and that the arc in Action Comics Weekly was all an elaborate test to see if Hal was worthy to wield his power ring to fight an incoming threat.
When Hal goes insane evil, Malvolio loses his champion to fight the big bad when said big bad finally shows up. So he forms a super team to fight said evil.
Some X-Fans of the "Hate Rightclops" persuasion, have pushed the idea that Scott turning into Richard Spencer like he did was the direct result of the Void manipulating Scott Malice-style.
More like he was setting up the baby getting shape shifter powers, per the plot point that when the Skrulls turn into cows, they can be milked and their milk, when consumed, grants the person drinking it shapeshifting powers. And that, per Skull Kill Crew, if you drink enough milk (or each Skrull cow meat), you can permanently gain Skrull-style shapeshifting powers.
Marz and Dooley actually knew that fans would bring up the ring switch so they explicitly had Hal take off his ring before he merged with the Power Battery and stole it's energy for himself and crowed about it when fans brought up the ring swap in letters sent to DC.
They kept getting so much mail about it pushing the theory, that Priest pitched a new book that would bring Malvolio back just to debunk the fan theory but DC rejected the pitch.
All of Johns' dropped plots hurt me so much.
I fucking hate Zach's new Tumblr-inspired color palette
Yes, because it got dropped in favor of Convergence/DC You, because sales for the event was abysmal and Convergence's pre-orders worse and they panicked and threw it out in order to manipulate people into buying Convergence in order to boost sales by tricking people Convergence was going to be the "real" ending and then said "fuck it" and did DCYou as a hail mary to save the New 52.
Brubaker was the one pushing the Martian/War of the Worlds shit (he and Bendis wanted to do a big War of the Worlds crossover but editorial kept telling them no).
Bendis kept shilling it in his books, when Brubaker left Marvel in hopes of doing the story all by himself. But in the end, Brevoort killed the entire foreshadowing for a Martian invasion out the window via having Nick Spencer reveal, in Civil War 2 the Confession, that the tripods were HYDRA tripods and were from the bad future when brainwashed Cap conquers the Earth.
Batman's murder fantasies was Mark Waid being a godless hack and creating the "Batman spends his time thinking about ways to kill his friends" meme other writers ran with.
In the past, it was explicitly stated that SUPERMAN gave Batman the kryptonite and it was SUPERMAN that told Batman to kill him with it if he ever went rogue. And Bruce was so fucking freaked out by it, he was willing to trade the kryptonite to Lex to get him to drop his Presidential campaign because Bruce was THAT afraid that Superman would snap and kill Lex if he won.
Judas Travelers was part of a group called "The Host". Judas is an illusion casting villain with a God complex and the "Host" that was his companions/henchmen were actually working for Norman Osborn behind his back. Norman had the "The Host" befriend Judas and use their powers to make him think he had God-like powers to fuck around with Spider-Man and Ben Reilly as part of Norman's epic trolling of Spider-Man via the Clone Saga.
HOWEVER, because DeMatties (who created Judas Traveler and the Host and "Scrier", a frienemy followed Judas around having philosophical conversations with him as an unofficial member of the Host) hated this plan, as he wanted to keep Scier around as he originally wrote him (IE a supernatural entity).
It was decided that, to keep DeMatties happy, Scier was still going to be the real deal; IE A cosmic being with Godlike power. But at the same time, it was retconned that Scier had a giant cult of crime that worshipped him and dressed like him and that Norman had taken it over and was running it for the time he was presumed dead. And that through Gaunt, he had recruited the Host and set Judas Travelers up and somehow convinced Scier himself (the real cosmic evil version) to play along with Norman's scheme to make Judas seem like he was a Godlike entity. Because Scier had interest in how Judas would behave with the "power" he had and wanting to observe Spider-Man up close as he was being mindfucked.
The cynic in me thinks it was going to be a SJW type storyline, IE evil white men trying to kill minorities via arson and it got dropped on orders from editorial when the realized that fans were dropping the book in the thousands due to Bendis' arrival and didn't need the extra bad press of Bendis pushing woke anti-white bullshit in a book already in the throws of a sales death spiral before the first Bendis issue ever came out.
That was a pretty obvious retcon, though, since it happened long after the lupine plot thread had been forgotten, so the writer probably just wanted to put it to rest.
Yes, it's really stupid.
DC Universe vs. Masters of the Universe
>Adam promises to separate Orko from Horde Prime and bring him back from wherever Constantine sent them
>He never does
Wolverine murdered a SHIELD medical officer for no explained reason at some point. It was basically a throw away gutpunch at the end of a fairly stupid story arc, but it raised a bunch of questions.
Mariko being in hell did too, although she's alive again so that's a semi-moot point.
Didn't Mephisto get fucked up at one point and lose his hold on multiple souls? Isn't that how Wanda's kids reincarnated? Beyond that, can't Rogue make new souls with her power? IIRC she made a copy of Carol's soul that Doom or Magneto destroyed because reasons.
IIRC one of Mattie Franklin's friends was turned into a werewolf and never came up again.
The goth chick neighbor of flash in his venom comics
Time to go down the "any character I want is secretly Nyarlathotep" rabbit hole again, I see.
Well, I'm game. Who's marvel's Nyarlathotep?
>Who's marvel's Nyarlathotep?
Chaos King? I mean there's the literal Nyarlathotep, but he doesn't really have the backstory of the original. Marvel cosmology doesn't really mesh well with Lovecraft in terms of behavior of the cosmics.
Did this ever get referenced?
It was completely resolved. 616 Miles got shunted to the Ultimate Universe.
That said, the way it was resolved strongly indicates a complete rework inbetween the introduction and resolution.
It is meant to be this way dumb fuck
So one of them is dead now right? The whole Batman who Laughs thing?
He was an older criminal, friend of Kingpin, got yeeted into a reborn Ultimate Universe and liked it, in Spider-Men 2.
It was the most useless story I've ever seen.
But if you didn't know that as an outsider, you'd easily assume they weren't human mutants of the type you'd assumed made up 100% of the X-Men.
This must have been after I stopped caring about the X-Men.
>IIRC she made a copy of Carol's soul that Doom or Magneto destroyed because reasons.
Sometimes I wonder what sequence of events led to stuff this wild.
>In the past, it was explicitly stated that SUPERMAN gave Batman the kryptonite and it was SUPERMAN that told Batman to kill him with it if he ever went rogue.
Specifically, there was a kryptonite ring that Lex Luthor had. The radiation cost him his hand, and eventually his entire body (which is why he pretended to be an australian bastard son, when he was actually brain-transplanted into a clone body).
That ring got stolen by the scientist who guessed that Superman was Clark Kent. Luthor had fired her because that idea was unbelievable to him. She hired PI's to prove that she was right, and eventually went mad from other events that happened in her subplot.
After deciding to move away from Metropolis, she got mugged and killed in Gotham. Batman found her irradiated corpse, and then an irradiated corpse of the homeless man who mugged her.
Batman found the ring, had a story with Superman about the irradiated corpses, and then told Superman about the ring. Batman gave it away, and the story ended with Superman giving it back, and telling him to use it if things even went bad.
They could literally call back to this at any point in the future.
Honestly that pretty much goes for any plot point in this thread.
That GA looks like he's wearing a cape/cloak.
They were going to do a thing where they cured his cancer so his healing factor wouldn't be kept in check from it and consume him
No, that sounds perfect actually.
I have the feeling this was done before.
The YJ drama of trying to force Superman into being Kon's dad, I'm glad it was dropped for a better brotherly relationship.
I guess unless Priest does a GL related story he probably will stay gone. Not even Morrison has touched Malvolio.
It's funny to me that people were so angry when New 52 happened but New 52 also had its fans who in return were angry when Rebirth happened. And whatever goodwill DC managed to get out of Rebirth they fucked that up too.
Both Didio and Harras should leave.
But it did change, At least in the Batman Inc book.
Wasn't that a bodydouble?
Whats the context here?
During Green Lanterns: Lost Army, the Corps is sent back in time to the universe before ours, and it's revealed that renegade Hal Jordan was the one who sent them, but we're never clued into why or how.
Yeah, obviously they were all created to serve a purpose.
I stared reading suicide squad when this was announced, and then it never happened. I was really curious to see what they'd do with Black Hand.
As shit as Venditti run was, I liked the look of Renegade Hal
Go read Brubakers run, you casual
The one filled with shipping and that was going to end with Selina dying pregnant, and Batman, Slam Bradley, Wildcat, and so on fighting among themselves to see who was the baby's daddy?
This whole thing was absurd, holy shit. Somehow I suppressed it...
As an addendum I'm glad Bendis isn't writing Riri anymore. It might have been his creation but I'd hate the girl if it wasn't for Ewing and Zub.
Knowing how SS usually play out, the Talon would die since he isn't that big of a name. Since Black Hand is kind of zombie he would die often to show how deadly the situation is without having to actually kill anyone important.
What the fuck happened to Talon?
Find out in tomorrow's issue of Nightwing in the comics shop near you!
Oh god every shitty Bendism in 1 page minus weirdly drawn out formal dialogue
They probably stopped, a good amount of Reeds are actually dead. A whole bunch of Reeds were murdered by Mad Celestials. Also most Reeds aren't evil, they probably realized that it wasn't a good idea. Not to mention that one Maker is already dangerous, imagine fighting one after another
Council of Reeds/Multiversal Reeds and spliced versions of Maker/Multiversal Makers are two different groups.
Imagine hating Rightclops, like how can someone sink that low
Yeah the New 52 was a universe reset
When Kyle Rayner couldn't handle the power of the white lantern ring so he split it's power and created a white lantern corps of new and unknown characters.
Forgot my pic
Well you better go find it!