What the hell is their problem?

Tapas now let's you wait a week and the next chapter will be free (at least for some of the comics) but you'll still have to buy the last five chapters once a comic is complete. It's bullshit, I have unfinished series just sitting there because I don't want to give them money

Does anybody on tapas even get their series in physical copies (it's the only way I'd buy their stuff)?

I fucking hate that webtoon ad on TV.

>webcomics moved away from aggregators
Objectively false. Aggregators are still the only way to get noticed, and as a result many private websites have vanished. Remember Project Wonderful? Died because its model relied on independent websites.

The reason it's so hard to find good, new content these days is because everything is dominated by a few companies, and those companies are ad farming above anything else.

I think it depends on whether or not the author wants to produce physical copies themselves, I don't know if tapas as a company has any sway in it at all

No one reads anything that isn't on the front page and the front page is always the same shit, they don't even showcase the "new and recently uploaded" bit of the frontpage which only increases the stagnation.

Their picks are just things they like personally so naturally it's gonna be the same korean weeb shit love drama each time

Thank you for answering.

>Aggregators are still the only way to get noticed, and as a result many private websites have vanished.
Read my post again. I am saying that the moment a webcomics get popular enough, it leave the aggregator to make its own website, precisely because its readership will follow., something that is almost unseen for other media.

And I'm saying that the dead websites and dead infrastructure for independent websites clearly proves your hypothesis wrong. Viewers will follow by small percentages, and abandoning the aggregator will cost you like 75% of readers.

Some sites even substantially reduce your promotion if you post links off-site. On YouTube it's a bannable offense to try to relocate traffic now.

>And I'm saying that the dead websites and dead infrastructure for independent websites clearly proves your hypothesis wrong.
And I am saying that most of the popular webcomcis are self-hosted. The moment they meet success, they leave.

I imagine you're one of those retards thinking of comics that got famous in 2006 and still run their own websites, and you think that those few relics represent the vast majority of comics just because it's all you know.

I post my comic on Tapastic.

The reason to do so is that it is very very hard to get readership without traffic being directed your way. There's just so much high quality free entertainment out there, you need every tool at your disposal to get anyone to even look at your work.

I think ideally on top of having tapastic host my work I'd also run my own site, but that in itself costs time and money, and can be hard to rationalize.

We live in an excellent time for consumers, but a pretty darn competitive one for creators.

It hurts was fairly recent. And this one didn't even start on an aggregator.

>Comic doesn't follow your rule
>Cite it as proof of your rule anyway

It hurts isn't on an aggregator. And it backs the point that even recent webcomcis don't need aggregator to succeed something you seemed to imply isn't possible anymore.

True, there will always be breakout successes. And I know "It hurts" did well here on Yea Forums. Still, how much traffic does the creator really get? I think the twitter they have has less than 700 followers- and they make $100 on patreon, which isn't a great sigh of being able to pull in a living income.

A single comic taking off without the help of an aggregator doesn't prove the rule that "webcomics start on aggregators, then leave and make their own site after they build an audience".

I mean it should be clear the comic you're talking about is exceptional and had it's own method of advertising outside the norm.

And compared to the 2006 comics it is doing poorly.

What's your comic, user? I might be reading and enjoying it as we speak

A Better Place: tapas.io/series/A-BETTER-PLACE

Enjoy if you aren't reading it yet, and continue to enjoy if you are!

What do you mean by "their problem?"
They're just another way for people to upload webcomics for people to see.

>A Better Place
Oh shit, user, keep up the good work, been lovin your comic!

Thank you! The most ridiculous moments are yet to come!

It's not even a great time for consumers. It's a good time for tech giants, and we just deal with what we're given.

>we have tumblr artists on Yea Forums and this is enabled

Check out my work- I somehow don't think it falls neatly into "tumlbr artists", but maybe it does in your definition, I'm an artist not a cop.

Most drawfags had tumblr pages before the porn ban, dummy.

Retards, the character design is appalling and falls into that category.

That's exactly what a cop would say.

Why is it so triggering to you user

Someone is sharing some good shit with us for a change, don't be an idiot because you don't happen to like a certain website

We used to shit on this garbage and not welcome it.

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Dammnit you saw through my disguise. You're under arrest.

You are also under arrest, because as an artist and a cop my thin skin is backed up by a gun.

>if they share it you have to like it you might hurt their feelings
>also tumblr style clearly means nothing you are just scared of a website
Thanks for self demonstrating what I was talking about.

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So you want a safe space?

No, no. My style is clearly not tumblr style because the noses are neither pink, or geometric triangles.

Sorry user, I don't make the rules, I just enforce them. As an art cop.

That fat nose and the way you draw the tears is tumblr as fuck dude.

I didn't say you had to like it, I just happen to enjoy it as it's better than most of the faggy shit that permeates on tapas
>also tumblr style clearly means nothing
Stopped reading your second point there, because tumblr style does mean nothing, who gives a fuck, you're the one obsessing over "tumblr style" and whatever the fuck that means

This hurts to look at and read.

they both basically do the same thing except tapas is A LITTLE better at showing off new creators, i mean i can't even find the newest updates page for webtoons
plus tapas lets you post in pngs while webtoons only lets you post jpegs

but its a wonder why they even bother being an archive for new creators when they only like to show off their "premium" content. they'd probably save up a lot of money if they only focused on that. still glad i can post my webcomic though

either way the only people who read on either website are just interested in korean yaoi

obligatory self shill, read my webcomic tapas.io/series/AEON

Ey, fair enough-

Sorry to disappoint you user, "it hurts" is a far more popular comic discussed early in the thread

Tapas isn't fantastic, but they've given some considerable traffic to my comic before through Staff Picks and the like. Webtoons just outright sucks and formatting pages for it is too much of a pain.

tapas.io/series/witchwayswitch

How's it going, Harry?

>"it hurts" is a far more popular comic
It's really shit since you decided to cheekily bring it up. I can't believe people read shit like that and Ava's Demon, at least that one webcomic I can never remember the name of is called out for being shit in an essential story time of pain, although it gives it publicity and actual fans show up from time to time.

Pretty good Mitch- I want to see more pages of your comic!

you should make your own website at this point. might now give you more views but i would be a lot better for archive purposes, these websites suck for catagorizing webcomic pages

would make the reader experience a lot better if you're creative

Out of curiosity user, are there any new webcomics you'd recommend?

Should be a new page later on today.

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You are 100% correct. It really is high up on my priority list!

It's hard as all fuck to find a good webcomic, especially new. The last one I remember reading was Achewood and even that dropped the ball hard towards the end and at best was always a 6/10.

What's a new comic you really like?

>The last one I remember reading was Achewood
I haven't read any comics in the past few years, and none that would be considered new. Like I said, it's hard to find a good one. Either the style is appalling or the writing is, I actually haven't bothered looking in at least a year because it became tedious to try.

user, is it possible you just don't really like comics that much, at least not anymore?

excellent!

That's pretty much what I am saying. I don't dislike them on principal of being comics. I just don't like the writing and directions of the ones I keep coming across.

Speaking of webcomics, anybody remember Paranatural and how good that was when it first started? Anybody have any recommendations that scratch that itch? Paranatural turned into hot dumpster fire, sadly

>Anybody have any recommendations that scratch that itch?
yeah, mob psycho 100

Shit, Mob is way better than Paranatural so he better take that advice.

I'll check it out anons, no worries

That's really good. Any chance you give me some advice

Comic artist here.

Where should I post then?

I am literally always happy to give advice, ask away!

(The quality of said advice is subjective)

Lookism is pretty solid.
Erma is too.

In my country Comico is only webcomic site that can compete with Webtoon. It's pretty much the same except i think their comics have slightly better quality but not variety as Webtoon

I also found lots of good shit in Comico japanese site that make top raking comics in Webtoon look poor when compared with. I still wonder why this site haven't support english language yet

Really? It almost doesn't matter, user. The internet is a walled garden now.

So that said, anywhere. Everywhere. Maybe one site will share you.

Ugh this is dogshit.

This on the other hand is actually funny. I like the little rat thing.

Any other comics good like this?

>omen and fags read webcomics, so they're just catering to the target audience
That retarded webtoon ad with the women falling into fantasy space in a dramatic and beautiful fashion reinforces this.

>Reeeeeeee tumblr
Get with the times user, its supposed to be reeeeeeee calarts these days.

Use your brain a bit and understand that those buzzwords still have their original meaning. "tumblr" references similar art, while calarts, even if not from calarts, means the beanface smile. I can't actually remember what Reddit meant, I think it was just a juvenile sense of humor before the elections made it a political buzzword instead. I think that's all the site buzzwords.

Lore Olympus, scoob and shag, and Bastard are all pretty good.

>Lore Olympus
webtoons.com/en/romance/lore-olympus/list?title_no=1320&page=1

Never recommend anybody anything ever again.

I know what they mean you mongoloid. I just don't let the hivemind dictate what I can and cannot like based on superficial aesthetic choices.

tumblr aesthetic is fucking awful

Kill yourself for your bad tastes.

Are there any good superhero webcomics?

I love webtoon.
It gives me something to look forward too every week before going to bed.

Well, I do notice Koreans seem to make several Super Hero comics but they're, well, Korean.

Link them anyway, I'm desperate.

New page.

You guys are too kind.

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One of the best I've read in a long time. Not exactly a superhero, but a hero indeed
webtoons.com/en/drama/family-man/list?title_no=85

I was going to link the same thing!

This webcomic is so underated.

Keep up the good work Witchways.

Yeah that looks like a good one.

>A Better Place
Thank you for not only making it, but actually bringing it (presumably) to conclusion soon. It's honestly a breath of fresh air in that shithole of an aggregator, and I rank ABP up there with Dragonet, Sammy and Step Aside. Eagerly awaiting your next update!

As for hosting costs, maybe if IPFS or ZeroNet matures enough, you could have a 'serverless' website/permanent seeder run off a pi.

Hey you asked
co-comic.com/

GO
TO
HELL

Iron Violet (discontinued AFAIK) and Work Experience: Superhero (try to overlook the ESL) are both diamonds in the rough. Though it's more that their setting features superheroes rather than being classic superhero genre comics, but you have a whole industry for the latter.

>inb4 you're taste a shit
Read Worm or webnovels in general if you want decent quality cape 'kino'.

>Worm
Your taste is awful. Worm is bottom of the barrel capeshit.

Thank you user this is good.

You go to hell to.

Any other cape comics?

Never said I liked it, just that it's decent quality. Honestly its worldbuilding is the only thing it has going for it to me. Anyway, I also remembered liking Sidekick Girl and Magellan but no promises on quality since it's been a while.

>Decent quality
Yeah if it was a Goosebumps book maybe.