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what is her best costume Yea Forums?

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Darwin Cooke Goggles Catwoman= best Catwoman

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nope, this one

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For me it's the purple 90's costume.

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This one

The arkham knight one

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And I thougt Yea Forums had taste!

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This

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Seconded. Though I kind of prefer the Tim Sale's version.

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Yes. Though I am a fan of this costume with different colored goggles she sometimes wore.

yes no head hair outside of costume!

For me, it's Guardian of Gotham

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Yup.

Best costume is no costume.

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Gotham City Sirens had the best costumes for all 3 girls

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i mean, unironically, yes

zip up the jumpsuit, that's it

That is Barbara.

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>That is Barbara.
That is Barbara fighting Catwoman.

Ah, you're right. The ugly short hair threw me.

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I'm right here.

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I second this.

Who here is armpits gang?

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These are all roughly on the same page aren't they?

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I think she would look better with that shit fully zipped up.

Nah, that's stupid. You're stupid.
Roll that shit down to her navel.

It's a rather simple concept later depictions chose to avoid for some reason.

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I love the Cat Woman outfit in OP's pic.

yes

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More tactical/practical that's for sure. But then we just have Darwyn Cooke's version.

A fellow man of culture I see

Based and navelpilled

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Love this look, honestly.

Not a huge fan of this particular art, but I do like the concept of vents on the side of her outfit in the shape of tiger stripes. Something skintight is bound to get stuffy, esp while running around all night, so some breathability would be a plus.

Joelle Jones overcomes this with her "armpit windows" as we see here
But if you want to avoid this look, you can still make the thing look more comfortable from a breathability standpoint by adding vents on the side, legs, or arms. You could even give it more of a uniform look by making them of a different material from the main suit instead of just flesh revealing cutouts. Like if the main suit is black lambskin you could make the vents a breathable black spandex, so you get that black on black look.

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>No Adam Hughes
Pathetic, Yea Forums

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I don't have a picture of it but there was a single issue where she had a mech costume designed to battle another cat-themed thief named Cyber Cat. Shit was glorious.

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I miss the glory days of cheesecake. Catwoman is too subdued these days; both in personality and body.

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Goggles or fuck off. That said, it looked better on her Asian girlfriend.

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That's what fanart is for today, mate

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Imagine the smell

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Batman wears lipstick?

It can look good zipped as well

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Are you going to tell him not to?

It's not Batman's lipstick. Shit was weird.

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It honestly looks better zipped in most formats.

Not like it can't look good unzipped but the original cooke design usually has it zipped up, and it looks really slick and cool in motion.

Oh, wow. I forgot I read this.

I wonder what Matt would smell on her?

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For me, it's the original

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i really like the short chunky boots

Jim Balent's Catwoman. Joelle's design is a close second, but I'd love to see the Balent design back in an updated way.

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I like the purple/green classic, but in a "finding it attractive" way not a "this Mardi Gras outfit is great for a thief at night" way.

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Wasn't Catwoman more of a criminal mastermind with her own henchmen than a cat burglar when she mostly wore this costume?

>TFW we never got prime eva green or jessica biel to play catwoman

Purple w/ tit socks

> Tit socks
What?

Simple basic black is still the best.

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Why would you subject yourself to such mediocrity

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>be me
>catwomansupermegafan.jpg
>have 27 statues

The 2002 Cooke design is the best, it was easy to meddle with, as seen in Hush, Arkham and several other great runs, and made the most sense from a practical standpoint.

The Jones redesign is stupid, no NVGs, pits and wrists showing, nope. 90s one is silly too, the Sale one is alright, hate the tail, liked the Returns and BTAS looks, Rises, 66, pretty much anything with a cape, or is blue, green or furry is ridiculous.

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Any re-designs you liked?

Here, kitty kitty

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This was created in 2001, is this the most modern costume that is accepted as a timeless classic?

Catwoman sexually assaults Superman! Read all about in the Daily Planet!

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Body molded to fit the tits and not create a uniboob is what user surely meant.

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Best Catwoman suit hands down.

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She was whatever the story needed back then.
I swear I remember a story where she did a "around the world in 80 days crime spree" with stuff like her and Batman chasing her both piloting biplanes.

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>CATwoman
>looks more like a bat or a chihuahua
>or at best, a hairless cat

hopefully the new Batman movie has catwoman nude but just covered in Latex Body Paint to really give us that comic book feel

Sexual harassment too.

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Based Burton almost killed Michelle Pfeiffer because he literally vacuum sealed her into the suit every day

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>This was created in 2001, is this the most modern costume that is accepted as a timeless classic?
It's not completely original, it's very similar to the Batman Returns costume.

Not her Silver age/Brave and bold one with the impractical cape or the Long Halloween one where she looks like a fucking rat.

But if you ask me, real men prefer Felicia Hardy.

Was there ever a version where her whole face was covered?

Virginity thief no doubt.

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It’s more or less the default look now (goggles, bodysuit, no mask)

It's really not outside of being shiny and black. Cooke's costume is essentially just the Emma Peel suit, not sure where he got the idea for the goggles though. Those are brilliant.

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Wish there was more stuff of her with Ivy.

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Would it be out of character for her to pounce on someone, restraining them with her arms and legs against their protests while viscously kissing their neck/face? Like a toned-down Fifi la fume.

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This suit is more about Tim Burton than it is about Catwoman.

Probably just looked up cats and saw they could see in the dark and equated it to night vision goggles.

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God I wish that were me

Probably not.

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I think in the movie she will use something very different
very wide and tactical style
screencap this

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where's the fuck webm?
Catwoman have fans here?

Something better than TDKR I hope

Nice

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any where her outfit is zipped down halfway

Considering how old that clip is I don't think a webm would necessarily increase the quality.

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Brubaker is her definitive run, correct?

One good grope deserves another

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>Would it be out of character for her to pounce on someone, restraining them with her arms and legs against their protests while viscously kissing their neck/face? Like a toned-down Fifi la fume.
That basically happened.

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>Brubaker is her definitive run, correct?
Yes. Read it.

Yeah, I kind of already knew of that. I was thinking should it be within the character? Or is her playing hard to get more in tone?
Probably depends on mood.

Catwoman is thirsty sometimes.

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It's more unorthodox, but I always loved this one most, yeah.

Is this the adaptation where Batman never finds out who she is?

Based

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Goddamn, Cooke had a looming deadline with this page huh?

I like to think she dabbled in other kinds of larceny (bank robbery, home invasion etc) before settling on cat-burglary.

I like JJ's costume as an alternate/back up. Selina would own more than one suit, and it makes sense she would slip into this one as a change. I do like the throwback to the Michelle Pfeiffer mask, and the pits are interesting (makes sense to a degree. Many modern gym outfits have incorporate what is essentially a ballet shrug, even if it doesn't make a ton of sense for a cat burglar), but the bared wrists are a bit much. All I can think of is sweat and blood leaving a trail of evidence.

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We doin cosplay now?

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Shitty sluts wearing normal clothes and daring to call that cosplay.

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Did some girl turn you down, Heartthrob?

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Nobody gonna post the one with black lipstick?

Alrighty then.

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I really miss long hair catwoman

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I really dislike goggles catwoman. I hope she is gone forever!

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Is this joelle jones? Like a concept sketch or something?

This isn’t cat burglar, this is just dominatrix fetish fuel.

It's joelle jones concept yes.

>Hey there, kiddo. Heard your dad has a safe somewhere...

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The idea of an athletic person smoking is just ludicrous.

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Smokes or doesn't smoke?

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Such a poignant image with the cigarettes telling her to die like that. Shows you the truth.

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Maybe over a decade or two. Depends on how much as well.
What if it's pot?

True.

The one on infinite crisis was pretty good.

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Pretty sure she lowkey does. Even Frank Miller said so.

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Selina looks the sexiest when she's just in normal clothing.

Also short hair>>>>>>long hair.

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Long hair is definitely better

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wrong a million times over

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Meeeooww~

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Black Cat wore the black suit before Catwoman did, too. Before she wore purple dresses, grey suits, and THEN the Black Suit. At least in the comics. Catwoman wore the black suit in the Adam West show

> "Ah, ah, ugh, uhhhhh, ahhhhhhh! Mmmmmm, that was fun sweetie. I'm not done with you yet. You saw my face, so I'm really sorry about having to keep a secret. Oh, I really want to believe you, but there's little room for risk in my business. Now, just hold still, and I promise it won't hurt."

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I like the unkempt, frazzled short thair look. She looks wild and mischievous with it.

Oddly enough, Lois Lane does too

Before that too.

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Dark.

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Nothing too odd about that. Classically, writers smoke more than Pope Nicholas in hell.

What about cannabis?

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Yeah, Batman ain't gonna go for that.

Blame him for larping with a Selina who forgot her mask.

>Lusting after young boys I understand, Selina, believe me, but the killing!?

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Fun!

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>Picking up some of Ivy's habits are you, Selina?

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Speaking of Ivy...need more of Catwoman being her drugged plaything. Remember, Ivy is an equal opportunity rapist!

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> "You should know already about us crooks leaving witne-. Wait, what do you mean you understand?"

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Long hair is superior

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>Uhh...

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short hair is superior

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I wanna play with the kitty so bad!

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>Teleports behind her
>"Nothing personal, Cat. Pick on someone your own size."

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>tfw you will never get to marry Selina

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Don't worry, neither will Batman.

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> "HA HA HA HA HA! I knew ya had it in ya Bats! It was you wasn't it!? I read the paper, and watched the moron box!"

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>Now let's ruffle those feathers in all the right places...

I know there are a lot of different versions of Ivy, but the more I read about her, the more I'm convinced she's one of the more evil of Batman's villainesses. Catwoman has always had a good side to her (regardless of how a given author might play it up or not), Harley is just manipulated and insane, and Talia, while an international terrorist, still has a very strict moral code and vision.

But Ivy is basically just an amoral drug dealer, for whom people are disposable at best. I know back in the 90s they played up the whole environmentalist gone wrong angle, which just comes off as a little dated now, but in the end, she's more of a purveyor of narcotics and psychedelics than anything else.

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Long hair is Superior

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There were the orphans in No Man's Land, but that's the only compassionate thing I've known her to do other than taking in Harley and taking care of plants. Does that count?

I dig the long hair, but it's very much of the era. Balent draws her like a 90's supermodel, all with big hair, huge boobs, and mile long legs. In context, it works, but I prefer short hair/a more petite body type overall. As shows it's supposed to be reminiscent of 50's-60's Hollywood. It even plays up the connection between her and Audrey Hepburn/Holly Golightly, which makes a lot of sense narratively. Adam Hughes got that connection as we can see here.

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Pretty sure she was fucking Harley, so no. It doesn't count.

>Catwoman
Are you hype for the new movie, bros?

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Shh, the kitty needs to be trimmed. You know...for play.

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>no insta-bulge the second you see her lurking about on your solo-patrol
>no insta-bulge when's she on top of you
Fake and gay.

That's not an edit, is it?

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I meant the plants.

>practical
Go away

>As thanks for letting me use your room as a hideout I'll show you how to really play, kid.

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>Caring about fucking shrubs in Gotham
>Not caring about the zillions of tons of pollutants put into the ocean by China.

Like I said. The environmentalist schtick is dated.

Please, I have shit I need to do.
Please.

Give him a break, he's still a growing boy. Luckily for Robin, Selina likes them young.

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Damn. Which one is this from? Looks either like it's a Darwyn Cooke or something from the early 90's.

>Ywn appreciate tactiCAT

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> Poison Ivy takes over China.
That'd be something.

Whichever one I can take off the fastest.

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No kidding.

> "I bet Batman never taught you how to be a man, did he?"

Just the pussy I've been looking for...

Is that from Telltale Batman? I remember that costume looking better.

Batman: Prey (LotDK #13)

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Legit.

Yeah. More in it for the story and concept desu. The animation is...ok.

a couple pages later

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Have something weird with audio

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First Shredder beats the shit out of Batman then he takes out Catwoman!? Can anyone save Gotham!?

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>dat nipple

>yoto will never deliver

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Tank top and panties

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>Catnap

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all catwomen are awesome

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Seconded.

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Selina is queen

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There needs to be a Poison Ivy storyline where she tries to "mellow out" human destruction of the ecosystem via supremely potent marijuana.

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Sale really went all in on muscular Catwoman. Look at that back.

SECONDED.
Selina's apartment wear in general is just cute

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Any pornstars with this exact look?

I love muscular catwoman

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I love phil cho but sometimes his faces are dire. He did an amazing terra for me once, but his raven made me cringe.

Her best outfits are the ones where she's wearing minimal clothing. Also seeing this thread in general makes me sad about how DC has been handling her lately.

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How do you mean?

A drawing of the Square Enix -Kai- Catwoman figure

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i love it when single milfs take their kids to cons to get praise and looks (not to mention all the photos they take, while their kids are standing off to the side looking all sad.)

mariedoll and celeste martinez 'wear' it better. esp celeste with that ass.

girl on the left was a regular here in houston every year and in austin. wonder what happened to her.

What a wonderful ass.

Probably referring to King's whole Batcat stuff. I actually don't mind the whole push for a serious Bruce and Selina by DC lately, I just wish Bruce's character was handled better. Also the Catwoman series written by Joelle Jones was pretty meh too. Though the variants for that run are pretty damn good.

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>mariedoll and celeste martinez 'wear' it better. esp celeste with that ass.
Pics or you're it didn't happen

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Yeah. There was a fair bit of cringe there. But not as cringe as the guys on this board that endlessly bitch about it. Tom King is overall a very subpar writer. There were some good elements in his run, but overall it's been kinda meh.

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Story where Batman is in fact Catwoman when?

>Also short hair>>>>>>long hair.
This.

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I kind of like the 2011 comic run crazy look it had.

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Here's a clean version of that cover.

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Same artist (Paul Gulacy) a few years later in LotDK 139

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Women, always be in your face messin' with ya until you gotta choke 'em.

That Guillem March's art was was always...interesting

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Imagine hating short haired Selina

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Most images like that never made it to the run right? Unless they were just meant to be promotional or side art?

Well...

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Is there a Catwoman recommended reading?

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dc.fandom.com/wiki/Catwoman_Recommended_Reading

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Kinda digging her muscles here desu

Long hair = Pure
Short Hair = Slut

Does this apply to all women?

Just catwoman

Never a fan. Looked kinda corny and went on waaaay too long.

Hnnnnng

She looked the best in the original New 52 and Sirens with her zipper down. The lower the better

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Based

This is Guillem March top right?

lol

Hell Here

>Liking Black Cat

>Ratwoman
No

>top right
?
Both series were original drawn by him if you mean that. I think among all the people who got the chance to draw her, he did it the best. He always made sure to underline her teasing and cockteasing nature. It makes sense for Catwoman to show of her body to distract her opponents and make them underestimate her. I wish more modern comics would take that in mind.

She cute tho.
Doesn't really look like a cat. But still cute.

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Shit she looks like my gf.

Pass. Same really with almost every The Batman design for me. Just not a fan. She was nice outside the costume though.

Nice to see a Catwoman thread take off. She's been getting a lot of shit lately.

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Get a load of this Parker dweeb

There are some hardcore cat haters on Yea Forums. Or at least one guy with too much time on his hands.

Idgaf about King being good or bad. Catwoman is bad. Fuck the haters

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I love Selina but I can still dislike King and Joelle's writing. The two aren't mutually exclusive you know. To be honest though King isn't really fucking up with Selina, it's mostly his handling of Bruce that's getting shit.

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Redpilled

Great Design but it's not really Cat-like.

Would go great as an alternate Bat costume tho

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Selina looks annoyed here.

Her 90s run is pretty fun too, if you don't mind the art style. It's actually surprisingly solid up until Jim Balent leaves, so just read #1-77.

She's legitimately in my top 3 favorite DC characters. There's just been a lot of autists lately who think a less than stellar run means the character itself is bad.

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Never really worked as a stand-alone design, but bearing in mind the stylistcs of the series it is an absolutely superb design.

I love Joelle's art (even if her suit isn't my absolute fave), but I'm only a little ways into her solo run. I've heard a lot of ppl complain about the writing. What's the problem with it?

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This.

Not that user but just felt weird, especially coming off of Batman #50. Also personally I don't think it's bad but some aspects of it felt a bit dumb. Like the random rebound love interest that was being set up but was dropped at the last second before it even began (and thankfully too) probably because some editor at DC intervened due to the whole Batman/Catwoman run that's being set up.

I don't have a Tom King hateboner like a lot of people here do, I like his style

I haaaaate how he writes Selina. IMO Selina's best as a grounded eccentric, not a massive obsessive weirdo on the level of Bruce.

The way Cooke portrayed the relationship where she could coax the human out of the insane vigilante and likewise he could coax the human out of the amoral thrillseeker was great.

she is no longer fun or sexy flirt. basically a totally different character

So like there was too much executive prying. That's unfortunate. I'm all for a BatCat thing, but only if it's done well. Tom King is painfully mediocre imho, and doesn't know how to write a romance to save his life, much less the fun/flirty one Selina and Bruce would need to have to make it work. He literally goes the opposite way with it.

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Yeah. My point exactly. Less Twilight, more early 60's romcom.

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>the way cooke portrayed it
Brubaker, sorry. Though cooke did illustrate.

Sale and Loeb too.

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>So like there was too much executive prying
Not necessarily. It only felt like that with the shoehorned new love interest and honestly I can't really blame them if they did. Regardless of King's writing ability, you can't have Selina go off and start fucking some random guy she just met when after abandoning Bruce at the altar when DC is trying to push this entire Bruce and Selina romance as a serious thing.

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That scene caught me right in the feels, bruh.

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Fuck yez

I miss the pre-sjw DC, back when they were not afraid of drawing Selina and other female characters as eye candy

Its such an unpopular opinion but I agree, the goggles always looked like granny glasses to me. Plus I never liked having them pointed and giving her two sets of cat ears.

I like them in principle, but yeah. All the best iterations of her with the goggles have her wear them on her head. There's a reason for that. They kinda look geriatric and buglike.

I hope she goes back to just showing her face soon. I hate all the costumes which cover her have

the red goggles are amazing

bad opinion

The Burton style mask is cool tho.

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If done well, yes.

That series really was underrated.

very bad opinion

masks are rad

Red is a good secondary color for her in general. But like
says, all the good versions with the red goggles are usually with them above her eyes.

Having her in silhouette with nothing visible but her outline in the glowing red/green eyes is such a cool look, though.

She did it before Sam Fisher, too.

Show pics

shows up occasionally in the cooke run i know that

can't skim it now

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Post when you can

Cute.

hairless cat is a cat.

Someone likes it shaved...

Not him but I like a landing strip

Pussy is pussy muh nickah.

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So many bad opinions.

>so many withheld opinions

just the first example i could find skimming the run, there's more like this.

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Legit af.

Iconic

Nostalgic

and Favorite

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Well, yeah, but every kitty wants to look pretty

BRUCE'D

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Correct

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Meant for

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I don't mind what she wears as long as she still has green eyes and short black hair.

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Good times and the bad...

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Context?

She had one bad day.

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That's actually pretty sad :(

based bondage fetishist

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Why doesn't Catwoman steal shit anymore? She's based on the "cat burgler" idiom, isn't she? I want a series where Selina just breaks into places and gets away with it.

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>tfw no animated adult catwoman show/movie based off of darwyn cooke's style where she's just stealing shit across america

Other writers decided to run with Brubaker's anti-hero characterization, but didn't understand why it worked at the time or why it should be dropped for later stories.

Pretty much the problem with modern DC in general; copying what worked in the past without the conditions that made it successful before.

She does. That was one of the first things she did in Joelle's run, and she stole her wedding dress in Batman.

Valentine made it worked. There's no reason to drop it, Selina's a much more interesting character when she's trying to be a good person and getting shit on by the world for it.

What if there was a Catwoman who pretty much a sexless husk with no interest in making advances toward Batman?
Wasn't that what the Batman Beyond Catwoman basically was?

Selina can't look the way she looks and be asexual. Maybe if she was reimagined as a weightlifting hulk transitioning into a woman.

... Holy shit, that would actually be an interesting character. DC, I give you permission to make tranny Selina. Her dead name was Steven.

I'd like to see a comic run exploring her youth within the slums.

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Did Selina find his boys magazine?

This is cute

In sickness and in health...

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Pic related.

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one of my favorite issues is her killing the original black mask

Isn't it a little hard to believe Catwoman doesn't have a higher body count giving the business she's in?

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I think that's what lowkey makes her one of the good guys. Before the comics code went into effect and there was a lot higher threshold for violence and murder in comics, catwoman was unique in that she *didn't* kill, even when the censors would let her get away with it. It's not really her MO. She's a thief, not a murderer, and I think she always tries to find her way out of these situations without killing, Black Mask being the notable exception of course.

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Maybe it's her Catholic upbringing...

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>I MUST DEDICATE MYSELF TO CLEARING ANY AND ALL CRIME FROM THE STREETS OF GOTHAM
>U-unless they're a cutie
Why is Bruce a hypocrite?

>Why is Bruce a hypocrite?
He's a man.

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It's always been that way tho. Robin was giving him shit about letting Catwoman get away in her first appearance, all bc Bruce believed she could be "rehabilitated."

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But all of that I'm kind of okay with. It adds drama to their relationship. Unless you wanna go full Adam West, Bruce isn't a fully deputized member of the law enforcement. He's a vigilante - a criminal himself - who literally trains kids to be criminals just like himself. So when it comes to the legality of what he or someone like Selina does, it's not really that important. After all, grand larceny will get you roughly the same type of sentence aggravated battery will, so Batman isn't exactly in the place to be pointing fingers. I think, as he learns more of the reasons behind Selina's motivations, he softens on her. She still loves the score for its own sake, but she steals as a type of vengeance against those who have unjustly enriched themselves. I've seen their relationship compared to the one between Valjean and Javert, and I think it's apt. Selina never really steals from someone who doesn't deserve it in the end, so she believes in a type of justice, as Bruce does, which is why they get on in the end.

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Dat Beretta

She's an amoral and selfish thief that steals so she can live the grand life. She's not dealing any big vengeance against those that unjustly enrich themselves. That's some tacked on bullshit put on her to make her more heroic and worthy of Batman's attention.

It doesn't even make any sense when you think about it. If she was justified in her actions as a thief because she only steal from those that unjustly enrich themselves, wouldn't she also being enriching herself in the process unjustly too, thus defeating the purpose of the very act? Otherwise she's not a very self-aware person. The only way to break the cycle then would be give back everything she stole to the rightful owners, but if she did that she would never make any profit.
It's all a very modern half-baked idea meant to make her look good. A very inconsistent one as well.

I'd like to see a no holds barred version of Catwoman.
Like that. Maybe not always someone like Black Mask.

I prefer to think of her as pragmatic. It's not that she has an honor code that prevents her from killing or anything, she just isn't overtly murderous. Like, she won't gouge a guy's eyes out or slit his throat, but she'll throw a mook off a train if it comes to that.

I think when you consider the idea of her growing up on the street as an orphan, it makes more sense. It's a raw act of cathartic vengeance to an extent, the same as with Batman. But like him, she has the ability to parlay it into something far more meaningful. Sure, she steals for selfish reasons. But she steals for unselfish ones too. Her relationship with Holly or other girls in shitty situations has been an element of her character since Frank Miller in the 80s. It's always been mixed motives with her, which is why it's interesting.

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Oh sure. Def in self defense if pressed. But she's not a murderer. Doesn't have it in her.

She actually isn't. She looks out for the East End and gives back to the community. Try actually reading her books.

Not every DC character needs to be a planet buster. It's why I (and most everyone else, it seems) hates whenever someone like Selina or Harley takes down Flash. It's so fucking ludicrous that it makes you want to throw the comic away.

Selina can be enjoyable and fun on a smaller scale. Have her break into a bank, showing off the skill she's known for (athleticism, breaking and entering, street smarts), possibly charm a dopey security guard with her feminine wiles, and get out with the expensive jewel.

That sounds like a blast too me. Let Flash deal with the cosmic threats.

I like the simplified look

It's not Cooke, it's Javier Pulido.

Long Halloween is my personal favorite.

Is catwoman being a simple thief that really big of a deal when she mostly steals from rich and corrupt guys?

Superheroes cause collateral damage in cities that cost way more money, and comes out of the taxpayer's wallet. Tell me something, which is more destructive: Some rich guy getting his diamonds stolen, or an entire city blocked destroyed and hundreds of cars totaled? Every time Superman picks up a car to smash a baddie that's like some guys life savings right there.

Does insurance cover super hero shenanigans?

he realized he was gay

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Selina really needs to get more purple back in her costume.

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So sexy and badass.

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She just doesn't work with Batman. Batman is just way to serious and smart to fall for her flirting and lies and also way to dedicated to the job to get distracted by her revealing outfits and cocktease personality.
I always wanted to see a comic which has her face another hero. Somebody like a rookie cop who tries to catch her but keeps failing because she just knows how to push his buttons and mess with him the right away.
I think if the plot was that Batman sees some potential in some new guy but he doesn't have time to train him, so he tasks Selina to do so.

Nice fanfiction

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all comic stories are fanfictions that just somehow managed to get drawn as a comic book user

Sort of. Didn't Bruce learn self-control meditational techniques?

I am sure they are gonna reboot it soon with all the aspects which made if good and fun removed

Bruce has learned whatever the author needs Bruce to get out of a difficult situation.
Unless the author is Tom King, in that case Bruce can do nothing and just get's saved by a woman again in the last minute.

It could be worse. Could be "with one bound, he was free!"

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actually it's celeste ledger. my bad. the ass everyone goes to cons to see.

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best version.

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The whole deal with Batman being super srs is starting to get old. Batman should have a sense of humor, he should *enjoy* being Batman. He can still be dark and brooding, but not painfully so. That's probably the biggest thing Tom King gets wrong, and it shows.

Very based and redpilled take. Batman villains are always gonna be more hard boiled/noir inspired. Cosmic threats don't exactly fit.

Isn't it part of the reason Grayson ditched him? Or was it all because of being in Batman's shadow?

Sure. Depends on the version of course, but you can still have tension between Bruce and Dick without making Bruce *completely* insufferable.

Yeah. Maybe Grayson is part of the reason he lost that seriousness.

This. I'm kind of sick of writers trying to portray her as some super practical, no-nonsense antihero, meanwhile Batman's allowed to be serious and don the trunks at a moments notice. Why even bother writing a cat-themed thief if you're not going to get a little outlandish?

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That's a take that conflicts with almost their entire history. Bruce will always have a soft spot (and blinders) when it comes to Selina and vice versa.

I'm partial to the black tactiCAT look myself, but I'm way into hyper normcore stuff for Batman as it is. You still gotta appreciate those who prefer a bit of camp tho.

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I really miss the purple skintights. Hell, even a splash would be nice. Just wish they'd at least change up the costume more than they have in the last two decades. She's too fancy and modish to stick to anything for too too long.

Honestly the real interesting way to spin their relationship isn't so much a conflict of values, but a conflict of approach. Selina arguably has a 25+ year sentence hanging over her head, and is essentially on the run as a wanted woman, which accounts for a degree of her antisocial behavior. Batman likely does too, but for whatever reason he's able to escape jail time bc of his own resources and his relationship with Gordon. Selina is conflicted bc taking up with Bruce would essentially mean she would be capitalizing on Bruce's own resources/connections to keep her ass out of jail. But doing so would offend her catlike need to always be independent. So how do you solve it? Do you just deus ex machina the problem away like Nolan did with the "clean slate" thing? Or do you engineer some deal with the fuzz to get her off the hook?

In the telltale game, you can just make Selina's pardon a condition of the deal with Waller at the end of the story, which is probably the most straightforward approach. But it still indicts Bruce as a "by the book" legalist to a degree. Which he never really was to begin with.

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Going over this stuff just reminds me how much of King's run was just a missed opportunity. Instead we got pages of high school tier poetry about eyes.

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Tim Sale did a good job I thought.

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Great look, I was thinking of this when I saw the thread

>"You can't keep using that line as your go to, Bruce."

> "Y-yes I can. Watch!"

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Kate Beckinsale is peak tactiCAT

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Yeah, that's one of favorites. She felt the most feline that I can remember. I just like the color purple in the bat world. I think it can pop nicely in the right places. This trend toward all black everything is bothersome. I miss the greys and blues too.

>Biggest tits in Gotham

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And even if they're not the biggest, they sure are the best.

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This one

Priyanka's pretty cool too desu.

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Balent Purple
Current Pitslut

fpwp

> Pitslut
That's a new one to me.

>PITS G A N G

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Comfy Selina is best Selina

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Her breast size is kinda inconsistent. Sometimes they're modest sized and other times they're fucking huge.

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C cup gang checking in.

that's literally every single character's problem

Not necessarily. Some literally have big boobs as part of their character. Like, there's no room for debate.

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Yeah but some are more consistent than others. Like for the most part Babs is pretty stacked and Steph is on the smaller side.

Finally some consistency

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Honestly, you should start a thread dedicated to comic book characters with small boobs.

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This upsets me. The Cat & Bat shit I don't mind when they're not being edgy. I actually don't mind the pet-names. I hate that the Bane shit was so autistic & ruined even the small good part of the run.

How do you mean?

I wish the focus was just Cat & Bat instead of Cat, Bat & their retarded step-brother Bane.

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That she is.

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It was cartoonier, but I actually liked Arkham City version better.

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The white one...

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Very based.

Well you see in the past comics were still allowed to have sexy women in them but then sjws took over so every female character suddenly saw her breast shrink by about 3 cup sizes

the original one

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Has Felicia ever had a revamped costume? The one get-up does feel a bit stale.

You're right. It looks real good on her.

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BATB design was a stunner

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because from a narrative perspective the character's best runs have had her a bit more grounded and down to earth?

There's just not a whole lot to work with if the character herself is a perpetually meowing saucy femme fatale like she often is as a side character.

Shut up moron. Inconsistent breast sizes have been a thing for fucking ever, it's not any agenda. And Selina still changes from medium to large to small as of this year. As does every female character when there are dozens of artists drawing them every year.

I saw the thumbnail and thought the diamonds were cum splats. I guess I have a dirty mind.....

when i was a kid i thought it was just a bad guy costume but as an adult holy shit he just put Michelle Pfeiffer in latex fetish gear.

imagine the smell

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They tried, but it was worse than the classic. It doesn't help that she was regularly being drawn by Humberto Ramos at the time.

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The one you posted

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Love the reference to the old BTAS costume here.

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Serves her right, the little clown wench.

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Maurijuana so potent that you can even get a contact high just from touching it, or the second hand smoke is enough for a buzz?

I'd read it.

The latter. Ivy and some stoners she found would be planting seeds in every open patch of dirt in town (and some parking lots).

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>No Superman no!!! I told you smoking Lucifer's lettuce was bad for you!!!

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Based.

>Balent you old dog

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Cute

>no panties
>panties

Smokes. All pulp based heroes must.

Seriously, why are her nipples so hard?

Prolly cuz of her suit.

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Comes in handy when you need to cut a circle in glass and lift a few diamonds

Balent is mostly just drawing porn these days, or borderline porn. He's probably forgotten how to draw tits without exposed nipples. Or outfits without decorations that allude to hard nipples.

Maybe because he drew Catwoman for so long.

Kek.

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I love this relationship so much and im not sure why
Anyone relate?

Totally. Connecting Selina Kyle to Audrey Hepburn/Breakfast at Tiffany's was a stroke of total genius.

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The relationship always struck me this way: Breakfast at Tiffany's is very much the story of the experience of a young, beautiful, single woman in the big city, and how women are drawn to the kind of lifestyle that affords them glitz and glam, but also a level of anonymity. A place to hide, as well as to be seen. That's why Holly Golightly is compared to a cat, esp at the end of the movie. She's cute, cuddly, and approachable on the one hand, but on the other, she's a stray - running from a bad past and a life she wants to leave behind. And the city gives her a chance to live a life with no strings attached, totally independent and free from connections. She's surrounded by a buzzing social life, and at the same time, is totally alone.

Selina deals with the same paradox, resorting to the life of a thief (instead of a call girl) to escape a life of poverty that she came from. She wields the same power women in her situation have - she's clever, sophisticated, beautiful, and desirable, but also shares the same vulnerabilities as well - being alone, desperate almost to rise up in the world. She loves the thrill of the lifestyle, but also nurses its emptiness, which is a sign of her own insecurity. That, I think is what Bruce sees, and explains the tension between the two of them. Crime is what decides them, but her life of crime is only a sign of her deeper strength and vulnerability.

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>D E E P L O R E

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Would she get along with Atrocitus? They both have a fondness for cats.

Audrey Selina is best Selina.

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>Audrey Selina is best Selina.

True.

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It was still wrong to leave him off Batman #50's artist jam.

I kinda like the bombastic proportions he gives his women, and don't necessarily mind his more recent gravitation towards nipples, even on female characters (in context, in actually makes a certain amount of artistic sense), but I agree. There def a porn-y look he's been trending toward, which is a little distasteful.

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Altho, idk if a women with boobs that big would get away with that little support. Part of the style I guess tho. We're not dealing in the world of reality here, it's obvious.

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And speaking of cartoonish proportions, look at those hands. Christ.

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Kek.

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I'll draw the line at cameltoe tho.

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Kinda cool to see him do the new suit tho. Along with Harley and Ivy.

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CATFIGHT

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I for one can cofirm that she does not in fact have herpes

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Cool to see Adam Hughes doing his take on it.

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Audrey tier Selina is actually kinda wholesome.

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Audrey tier Selina is actually kinda wholesome.

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Diggin the casual look desu.

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I swear its the same guy every thread saying the same thing about this Catwoman. This Catwoman is bae. Just wish they gave her a vehicle.

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>Classic

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I'm honestly partial to Joelle Jones or Adam Hughes, but when Cooke gets it right, he gets it *really* right.

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I kinda get the dude's criticism, but I always loved her look here, especially with the style of the rest of the show.

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>Imagine hating this.

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Cooke gets the real sense of fun across. She's just so damn cute sometimes.

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Much better res.

Billy Tucci did a cool Balent-esque version.

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>because from a narrative perspective the character's best runs have had her a bit more grounded and down to earth?

Maybe so, but it's been almost 20 years since Brubaker's run. Would it really hurt to change things up a little? It's like with Batman; leaning too heavily into the practical side results in monotony. You need the theatricality, otherwise he might as well be some guy in SWAT gear.

I'm not asking for her to go full Lee Meriwether or even go back to the 90s characterization. Just add a little more bombast to the character so she isn't just some generic tough girl in black leather.

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>The cat that caught the canary.

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There's always the high fashion take

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Kane you lucky old sod

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>Would it really hurt to change things up a little?
They tried and it did.

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She looks like an orc lol.

It does get a little overdone, but it's also so ubiquitous since Tim Burton made the black latex so popular that the look as become almost synonymous with the character, for better or worse. There's enough variation to keep it interesting, but if you like a bit more camp in your comics, I can see the desire for a change.

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The tradeoff is, I think, the emphasis on "reality" is that you get more versions of Selina in just normal clothes, which is kinda cool I guess. Gets women more interested in it I suppose idk.

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Joelle Jones actually did some pretty cool concepts for some throwback suits. I kinda dig them.

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Guys, let's stay focused here.

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>Fuck you, (((Penguin)))

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The real issue is that Selina is firmly entrenched in Batman's pulp/noir elements, and deviating too far from those elements really messes with the character. There is only so far you can take it before people start going, "Okay, but is it really Catwoman at this point?"

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Honestly, you're right. That's why Hughes/Cooke/Brubaker's success was giving her depth by immersing her in the culture of the 50's/60's. Breakfast at Tiffany's, To Catch a Thief, How to Steal a Million, etc. There's aren't pulp/noir, but they are lighter, more fun take that fits aesthetically with the character by pushing things out a decade or so beyond the 30's/40's when the pulps were most popular. It inevitably takes things more into a romcom-y area, which I think has been done to a certain degree of success honestly. The focus is less on Catwoman as a supervillain and more on Selina Kyle as a character.

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I thought it maybe because she's that turned on in that picture.

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>That tan line tho
The uncensored Guillem March pic.

I don't recall New 52 Catwoman wearing heels

She didn't.

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Guillem March is still the best, but she needs bigger breasts

>always draws her flat as a board
how insecure is this woman? that's like if king had batman drawn with stick arms

>if king had batman drawn with stick arms
lol

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> : (
Not even a straight line?

this right there, this is the perfect Selina

Idk if I'd call her flat as a board. I mean, anything looks flat compared to Balent and Hughes, but it looks to be more of the fit of the suit, which is a halter top, rather than the v-neck which brings out the cleavage. She doesn't draw her as small by any means.

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Where you getting all these March pics, my dude?

Least she still has a bit of an ass.

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Idk I think she's kinda hot

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His instagram mostly.

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>Taping her nipples inside the suit to avoid chafing/bleeding

Makes sense if she's not wearing a bra under there.

PITS GANG

Petite Selina is also adorable.

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Why wouldn't she wear one?

How arousing would you guess sneaking out, stealing, and roof hopping (Maybe while being chased) is for her?

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>Why wouldn't she wear one?
I don't know why but she apparently doesn't.

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Idk. She's usually not shown with a bra underneath (except in some of March's stuff), bc it's prolly more breathable. Depends on if her suit is lined, padded, or supported in any way and with what material. But if there wasn't much there, she'd probably wear althetic tape of some sort bc of all the sweat.

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She def gets a thrill out of it. Most thrill seekers are just in it for the adrenaline rush and not necessarily anything overly sexual, so it makes sense Selina would be the same.

When Cooke is good, he's excellent.

Like a toned-down Roxy Rocket.

Yeah this one is just too stripper-y. I could see her playing a role like that for a job, but never unironically.

Yeah kinda. There's also the cathartic element of getting back at the people she thinks deserve it. Like robbing a guy like Jeff Epstein of a couple million here and there. She'd love that.

That'd be interesting. Catwoman cracks down on a kiddie diddling trafficking ring.

Easier for when her and Bruce end the night by fucking on a rooftop.

I'd pay to read that. Hell, I'd even write it. But the current year being what it is, that story is probably already being written.

It's certainly rarer, but it is very cute.

I wonder if she'd be quite merciless. Or just orchestrate their exposure.

That's basically her origin story.

>Petite Selina
>About 5'4"
>120-125 lbs
>About 34C-24-38
Good God, perfection.

Depends on how she was being written and if Bruce was there to restrain/collab with her.

But yeah, I'm going for merciless. Scorched earth.

Maybe she makes it so that those high-profile murders bring as much attention to it as she can get. Makes sense.

I'm kinda thinking both. The Epstein affair rn shows that even here, publicity will only do so much damage. Guys like him usually escape jail, or "suicide" themselves to protect people who are even worse.

That's why I'm thinking someone like at the end of the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, where Lisbeth steals millions of dollars from that one guy's Swiss bank account, and he loses everything and ends up getting murdered. You gotta do both. The justice system doesn't work, so these guys need a different brand of justice. Preferably by losing everything and having it go to the people they abused.

Yeah, but doesn't your head hurt a little when she beats up a bunch of grown men?
I'd at least make her a few inches taller.

Fair point.

Yeah. You gotta factor in those 4+ in heels she's wearing.

A lot of top flyweight MMA fighters are about that height too. Not that Selina is a brawler, but we're talking the same weight class distributed differently - thinner limbs and waist, though still muscular, with bigger bust and butt.

A miracle they don't snap.

Tim Sale's design of her really made her look like one.

Legend says that Catwoman's heels are made from the same material as Wolverine's claws.

Sale made her look very muscular, but still a little too lean to be a true fighter's physique. Female MMA fighters are a bit boxer, almost rectangular in their proportions. Selina will always be built more like a dancer or ballerina, regardless of the height she's drawn at. Thinner, more lithe arms and legs, smaller waist, while still being lean and muscular.

So she'd be more of a kicker, probably.

Basically a more muscular (about 5-10 lbs more) Denise Milani with natural C cups instead of those beach ball implants.

Whips fucking hurt like a bitch. Also she sometimes has razor sharp claws. I don't see the problem.

True.

Probably. Keep enemies at distance, with the whip, kicks, and claws. The claws are good if they get into punching/grappling range, in which case she'd probably just try to retreat asap.

That's how Falcone got his sfregio.

That's how you know Selina was still a good Italian Catholic.

Or a good-old-fashioned headbutt.

Thoughts on him being her actual father? I think it's exclusively Loeb, but I kind of like the idea.

That would be for extremely close range. Seeing her pull some good BJJ with those claws would be epic tho.

I'm pretty sure he was. Loeb is one of the better storytellers in DCs roster, and one of the better writers of Catwoman. It just makes too much sense.

It'd be an interesting to see how it affects her relationship with Maggie too.