Today makes 3 years since the corruption of Jasper and SU's peak

she's healed but it still feels like she's corrupted because it happened in a montage and the show hasn't returned since
Blue's entrance in Stevens Dream was fantastic

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Weird how she feels remorse after getting fixed, you'd think corruption would be like some kind of primal black out

>a confirmed rapist and torturer
Nobody mentioned Lapis user

so did Jasper ever come back or nah? i haven't seen the show in years so i can't remember.

She did during the last episode that aired before the never ending hiatus started... in January

well she immediately did summon her gem weapon and was going to attack Steven, but seeing all the Diamonds was what stopped her

She's embarrassed more than anything. Yellow gives her a stern look and Jasper promptly shuts up.

You know what's ironic? It is her VAs birthday too

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>season 3
>SU's peak
SU went downhill after the Cluster arc.

She appeared briefly in Mindful Education, starred in the first of the six Dove Shorts where she was getting along with Amethyst which was probably a psuedo-official sneak peak into the future since the shorts were produced after season five was finished and are written and directed by Sucrose, made a full official return in Change Your Mind, and her VA has been coming in to record for season six

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>SU's peak
No, pic related is the peak. Everything after is downhill.

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Why does Greg look like he's from a different show in this shot?

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Steven Universe ending will be its peak.

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>it's been 3 years already

Why is peter doing that to lois

I'll never forget the watchback threads reaction to
>MY DIAMOND! YOUR DIAMOND!
>PINK DIAMOND!

Same, is there an archive to that?

Where's our redemption arc, crewniverse? please?

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Has it truly been that long? I kept expecting the next eps to deal with the fallout/possible redemption arc (but it never came)

I still haven't seen anything after season two!

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came here to say this

>tfw ywn watch Jasper have a complete meltdown over the Pink/Rose reveal.

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name literally one (1) instance in the show where Lapis being rapey/abusive is clearly demonstrated

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Jailbreak is overrated as fuck. Earthling's art may not be as good but it's infinitely more important to the story (and just better overall) than Jailbreak.

When she raped and abused Jasper over the course of a year by forcing her to stay fused and chained up her in her rapist dungeon at the bottom of the ocean just because she wanted a prisoner to exert control over and torture.

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God that shit was so fucking hype

The Return and Jailbreak together offered great payoff to all the stuff Steven slowly learned about the crystal gems and the war during the second half of season one, everything surrounding homeworld in later seasons never really compared to the hype and expectations it set up. I still think it's the best season finale.

Freaking stevonnie could clown on jasper while garnet needing everything she had and still was getting pushed back

Jasper retreated before she could really be beaten by Stevonnie because Malachite and losing against Garnet gave her a fusion complex, she thinks she isn't strong enough without Malachite/fusion, it's why she also gives up against Smoky Quartz and almost immediately resorts to fusing to fight her

Let's not forget that Lapis admitted that she liked having control of Jasper. But actual moral ambiguity? That's too much for SU, crewniverse and the fanbase to handle. Better just to quickly forgive her and then push all difficult questions under the rug.

Jasper didn't forgive her. She actually enjoyed it and wanted more.

I see So her confidence was down to zero and her performance took a major hit. In her heyday she could brawl with rose 1 v1 in physical melee at least. I'd argue Purple Garnet would of lost if the fight dragged out. Nothing garnet had was putting meaningful damage on her. The power reactor defeated jasper.

>But I think you're just mad 'cause you're single.
was Garnet right

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I dunno, they do make it clear that what Lapis did was wrong, the main problem was that they hardly devoted any time to exploring the impact it had on both characters, and that Jasper has yet to get any of the help and support Lapis was constantly offered even though she was the one literally being tortured by Lapis and becoming defendant on fusion just made her other preexisting issues worse.

A lot of stuff regarding Lapis is left dropped, underdeveloped, or kept offscreen, but I think this is because her character didn't have any attachment to the main plot with Pink Diamond and the main obstacle she had was overcoming her mirror trauma, Malachite had to happen for her to start moving on by realizing she didn't want to become like the gems who trapped her in the mirror and no longer wanted to take her anger or control issues out on others.

Jasper suffers far harsher consequences for her actions that any of the other characters on the show and went through a chain of unfortunate events that lead to her getting corrupted but Rebecca was trying to make her arc more tragic, her character and issues with self worth are supposed to show the consequences that the homeworld system and Pink's actions had on their victims, her treatment after Malachite was probably meant to depict how being alone and not getting help for your problems will ultimately lead to self destruction in contrast to Amethyst and Lapis. Now that Jasper is back they have the opportunity to send a different message by letting her heal and giving her closure for Malachite.

The crewniverse wants to make flawed three dimensional characters that learn how to accept their differences but they are also too lazy to commit to developing them properly and it resulted in all the characters coming across as a bunch of unlikable psychopaths that never have to apologize for the shitty things they do.

Jasper didn't want to get help or get apologies. She violently rejected it. Lapis apologizing to Jasper would be the biggest and most out of place bullshit in all the series.

What's the bigger bullshit reason for Lapis never apologizing to Steven or Peridot then?

For what?

Trying to drown Steven, breaking Peridot's tape recorder, running away and stealing all of Peridot's stuff when she and Steven were in danger and needed her to defend Earth?

> Trying to drown Steven
It was during a fight.
> breaking Peridot's tape recorder
Maybe the only valid point.
> running away and stealing all of Peridot's stuff when she and Steven were in danger and needed her to defend Earth
There was no time for proper talk.

Lapis also initially rejected Steven's help but he persisted and she eventually came around.

The only time Jasper was offered help was in Earthlings as she was corrupting, but it was coming from Steven who she saw as the person that ruined her life and murdered her diamond, as Rebecca explained it was also partially because her low self worth was getting in the way and she thought she deserved to be corrupted for being a failure. She spent all her life hating Rose but the revelations with Pink Diamond change everything, she was alone and hated herself too much to feel worthy of help but she now has Amethyst to guide her.

Both the Malachite arc and Jasper's personal character arc won't be finished until Jasper gets the chance to heal past her issues and she and Lapis come to terms.

This. While there were bigger moments in later episodes, Return/Jailbreak did the best job of buildup and payoff in the series.

Yep, all bullshit
>it was during a fight
Steven was just a harmless kid yelling at her to stop stealing the ocean (another thing she didn't apologize for), not fighting her
>there was no time for proper talk
You mean she didn't give Steven or Peridot time to talk, she ran away a few episodes later after Steven talks to her at the moonbase too. This must be the level of stupid that the crewniverse is operating on.

It also had one of the best songs and some of the best action, reveals, twists, as well as several new character and fusion introductions. There's a reason the show's popularity skyrocketed alongside its first airing.

Not going to lie, I liked the way it raged at fatboy.
Up till then, it was just a salty bully team rocket type of villain who show up every know and then to put some fear pressure on the cast. It's motive? Getting revenge on fatboy and his mineral lesbian harem for his crimes as a fa- chunky bulky pink mineral humanoid revolutionary that supposedly brought the demise of its big boss's "sister".
>"FOR WHAT YOU DID TO MY DIAMOND!"
>"ya mean, yella diamen? lmao"
>"W-WHUT? MY DIAMOND! YOUR DIAMOND! PIIINK DIAMOND!"
>"w-we always save the d-day??"

Then it finally succumbs to spacerock aids and gets impaled-sniped by the puny green one.

The pacing of this show is ass

it starts off okay but by the last season it becomes off the walls fucktarded

>the entire Steven/Connie bomb
>the bomb after Jungle Moon
I don't know why people are praising S5

>just because she wanted a prisoner to exert control over and torture.
Stop making up this stupid shit. Lapis indeed wated to hurt Japser at the beginning, but as being shown in the dream sequence, she wanted to warn Steven as it clearly shows Lapis' forced fustion reason was to protect him from Jasper's harm.

>it's been 3 years
What the fuck
It literally feels like yesterday since I watched this episode for the first time.

>as it clearly shows Lapis' forced fustion reason was to protect him from Jasper's harm.
Wrong

What a loser

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This is true

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>"just let me do this for you"
Fraud and libel have just become ordinary weapons for Jasperfags. How long will you slander this fandom with your pathetic lies?

Definitely.
The worst part is they´re gonna say in the movie that Lapis apologized to everyone she hurt off-screen and we don´t get to see it.
Fuck that bitch.

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Retard, Sugar, Lapis told herself that it was for Steven but was deep down doing it for a punching bag of a person she could release her anger onto, Sugar even said so in the SU podcast

You do realize that this was retconned on Alone at Sea right? Where Lapis literally says to Steven that she did it to hurt Jasper and not to protect him?
Also, it was written by Zuke, so your argument is based on a writer who was fired for obssesing over ships.

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Source?

no idea. Found it on another Yea Forums thread

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I want Jasper to squish my head between her thighs like a watermelon

>Lapis told herself that it was for Steven but was deep down doing it for a punching bag of a person she could release her anger onto
Nobody denies that you fucktard, it's just you jasperfags who entirely dismisses Lapis' reasons to protect Steven and turn it into a one sided revenge.
>it was written by Zuke
If it's in the show, it's in the show. At this point you're clearly refusing the canon.

Did Steven gain his neck from drinking Quartz milk?

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>Lapis told herself that it was for Steven but was deep down doing it for a punching bag of a person she could release her anger onto
That doesn't change the fact Lapis tried to save Steven by fusing herself with Malachite and forced Jasper to hold her under the ocean even if her inner reasons would differ. What are you even trying to imply?

Are you retarded? They literally just told you that she was LYING. She wasn´t trying to save Steven at all.

>lapis fused with Jasper to torture her
>show the scene where Jasper is the one proposing lapis
>but she only accepted just to hurt jasper, not to protect steven
>shows episode when she's clearly warning Steven about Malachite
>nah she's just lying, she' s stupid bitch
Jasperfags are the most one sided retards that I've ever seen in a fandom. Just admit that you hate Lapis as a character and refuse to see her in SU instead of trying to bring up stupid headcanon to defend Jasper which entirely contradicts with the show.

What's worse, Jasperfags blanatntly deny when Lapis clearly sad about everything she's ever done before that she was wrong and feel sorry in Alone at Sea.
>"I'm terrible! I did horrible things! I-I broke your dad's leg. I stole Earth's ocean! Go on! Tell me I'm wrong!"

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>Where Lapis literally says to Steven that she did it to hurt Jasper and not to protect him?
She never said anything like that in that episode, on the contrary, it was Jasper who said that she had actually enjoyed the forced fusion.

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Only two episodes of that Steven/Connie bomb are mediocre (Dewey Wins+Gemcation) and Pool Hopping+Letters to Lars are great and good respectively. The pacing of the latter half of the season was way too fast but individually those episodes represent the longest streak of quality since like S2.

Peridooter is based

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It was a retard Lapishit faggot that started this crap in this thread, Lapisfags never want to admit their waifu's flaws

It´s amazing you complain about Jaserfags being one-sided when you´re being extremely one-sided ignoring canon and word from the official creator. And yes, I admit I hate Lapis, but that doesn´t change the fact that you´re wrong. Lapis has confirmed to be an awful piece of shit in canon and the fact that you refuse to see that shows you´re a retarded Lapisfag.
She hasn´t apologized to anyone about doing those things though. Feeling bad about your own horrible actions means nothing if you don´t at least try to apologize to the people you hurt.
>I broke a guy´s legs. I feel sorry about it.
>Did you apologize to that guy?
>Lol nope, but I feel bad about it.
Retards

Lapis is nasty, remember when she casually responded to Connie with "I almost drowned a lot of people"

Actions speak louder than words. Some characters might apologize, some don't or won't. If they continue to act in a certain way after reaching that point of redemption then there's a problem. Plenty of shitty people IRL say sorry merely as a means of placating someone so they can carry on as they were before.

Based Greg

Source? I'm gonna saviour this and mr. Murdercock is hella based

Cause they're aloud to be bombastic and dramatic, hero's aren't for some reason.

Yes, not cause she wanted to lezz it up then, but because she was without her diamond

Apologizing to Jasper made no sense in the context of Alone At Sea.

>lapis demonstrates multiple times over that she is more OP than any other gem on earth and was capable of defeating jasper without the use of fusion rape and torture in alone at sea
>JASPER WAS ALREADY SELF ADMITTEDLY DEFEATED BY GARNET and would not have been able to defeat the crystal gems or hurt steven in her weakened state, which is the only reason she had asked lapis to fuse in the first place, and lapis could have either let them poof her or helped them subdue her in another way if she didn't have selfish intentions and wanted to help anyone
>steven tells lapis NOT to fuse with jasper in jailbreak and she ignores him, again tells her to STOP fusion raping jasper in chille tid but she tells him to fuck off
>rebecca sugar flat out says that "IT DIDN'T MATTER THAT IT WAS JASPER" because jasper was just a scapegoat for all the other gems lapis was mad at for mistreating her in the mirror and she felt like she "needed" to vent her pain and anger and wanged control after not having any for so long
>"I'm done being everyone's prisoner, now you're my prisoner and I'm never letting you go" is the first reason lapis gives for fusion raping jasper, matching what sugar said, then later confirms that she was doing it because she felt like she needed to take her anger out on something and enjoyed it, again matching what sugar said about jasper just being a scapegoat and lapis just needing a punching bag
You keep ignoring that Steven did not need "protecting" from Jasper at the end of Jailbreak, she was already weakened and backed into a corner by the crystal gems, and Lapis definitely didn't need to torture her for what she meant to be eternity to do it, she did it for her own gain and selfish desires, and both Lapis and Rebecca confirm this. Lapis is never shown to be in the right in Malachite until Alone at Sea where she admits it was wrong and refuses to do it again. Stop trying to make unnecessary rape and abuse out to be altruistic.

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> she was already weakened and backed into a corner by the crystal gems
CG's were also pretty weak and Jasper cound easily shatter them, in fact she was attempting that before she has seen Lapis trying to escape. Jasper simply manipulated her anger and tried to use Lapis against CG's to destroy them.
>and Lapis definitely didn't need to torture her for what she meant to be eternity to do it, she did it for her own gain and selfish desires, and both Lapis and Rebecca confirm this.
Jasper had it definitely coming, she tried to use a Machiavellian "we are together on this shit" trick on Lapis by disregarding her contempt towards all gems, not only including CG's. That was all Jasper's fault by persuading a psychologically broken gem to fuse with her.

Why are you arguing that it was for Steven if you admit that Lapis only did it because she wanted a punching bag? You can't spin her doing something needlessly sadistic for selfish reasons into something that was helping anyone, especially not when Jasper was already beaten when she chose to fuse with her, and she refused to stop even when Steven told her to stop, and it just caused bigger problems when she and Jasper got addicted to it and Malachite fought Alexandrite in Super Watermelon Island.

>be Lapis
>treated like shit for thousands of years
>finally escape thanks of a human named Steven
>arrive in Homeworld
>treated again like shit, thanks to Diamanteführerschaft
>forced to go back to Earth even though I have nothing to have in this shit
>By some miracle, our spaceship gets destoyed and we are stuck on Earth
>I'm done with it, try to esacpe
>This orange jasper asshole catches me, and tells me to fuse togethr to defeat CG's even though she's solely responsible for eveything happened in here
>I say, yeah fuck it and control Malachite
>for over a year, after the re-fusion, I now feel guilty and wish it would never happen also feel sorry for Jasper too
>Jasper re-appears, says that it was good by completely disregarding how I felt during that horrible moments
>I just told her to fuck off
>afterwards
>get adapted on Earth, not a bad place after all
>try to make amends with CG's and people I've hurt by knowing or without knowing
>one day discover Yea Forums and Yea Forums
>see this thread
>see a bunch of jackasses try to make me guilty just because of their anger towards me
>mfw

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>art may not be as good
That reminds me, at premier people thought they were introducing the first male Gem when Jasper fist appears in Return.

Yeah she did look masculine in The Return.

Lapis you blue whore, I'd gladly spit in your face you rapist

Id rather have her spit in my mouth desu

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>CG's were also pretty weak and Jasper cound easily shatter them
She was beaten up enough to stumble around and have a hard time standing, and she admits defeat with "You only beat me me because you're fusion!". The CGs were protected by Steven's bubble when the ship crashed and aside from Garnet they were unharmed, they had lion on their side too, Jasper wouldn't have stood a chance

>Jasper had it definitely coming
"Did Jasper deserve it" is what the argument comes down to when the "Lapis did it to protect Steven" bs is pointed out to be false and cleared away

She was a dick to Lapis, but she never hurt her. For her, fusion was initially just a last resort to beat the CGs, she knew Lapis was angry at them too and her attempts to convince Lapis to act on her anger and desire for revenge are pretty much the extent of her toxic behavior in Malachite, but it's not really comparable to the months Lapis spent using her as a physical punching bag to take her thousands of years worth of anger towards other people out onto and torturing her with the intent of making her suffer as much as possible

Again from Jasper's pov, she was only trying to kill Steven because she was severely mislead, she had no way of knowing that Steven wasn't Rose who she only wanted to get back at because Rose/Pink lied to her about her murder, and it turned out that Pink ruined her life even more than she thought "Rose" did. She is a victim to Pink's actions, and Pink is responsible for her existence and antagonism, and she was just as fucked over and damaged before Malachite as Lapis, she didn't deserve to have her issues piled on with being fusion raped until she became dependant on it

But I don't hate Lapis over Malachite, I think her canon motives behind it are interesting and liked seeing her acknowledge that it was fucked up and wrong, I just think people who act like she had to do it are stupid. She didn't start deteriorating as a character until she got barned

You know what surprises me? The fact that after Alone at Sea the Malachite plot was one and done, I expected a follow up and some expanding on it since it was so important for not only Jasper, but Lapis too. But that aspect of her character is just never brought up, not even by Garnet who could give her a talk about fusion, they just stuffed her in the barn to sit and do nothing

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This.

>"Did Jasper deserve it" is what the argument comes down to when the "Lapis did it to protect Steven" bs is pointed out to be false and cleared away
Not at all. You just simply ignored that. Lapis did it to PROTECT Steven and it still stands.
>She was a dick to Lapis, but she never hurt her. For her, fusion was initially just a last resort to beat the CGs, she knew Lapis was angry at them too and her attempts to convince Lapis to act on her anger and desire for revenge are pretty much the extent of her toxic behavior in Malachite, but it's not really comparable to the months Lapis spent using her as a physical punching bag to take her thousands of years worth of anger towards other people out onto and torturing her with the intent of making her suffer as much as possible
This is also misleading as it completely disregards that Lapis did also suffer alongside with Jasper in Malachite fusion. They were both sadomazoshistic dykes.
>Again from Jasper's pov, she was only trying to kill Steven because she was severely mislead, she had no way of knowing that Steven wasn't Rose who she only wanted to get back at because Rose/Pink lied to her about her murder, and it turned out that Pink ruined her life even more than she thought "Rose" did. She is a victim to Pink's actions, and Pink is responsible for her existence and antagonism, and she was just as fucked over and damaged before Malachite as Lapis, she didn't deserve to have her issues piled on with being fusion raped until she became dependant on it
Soo, Jasperfags try to use "she was misled" argument on Jasper's actions on trying to kill Steven when they refuse the listen the equally relatable stuff about Lapis' actions?

In fairness, Jasper did at least think Steven was Rose, her worst enemy who she's justified in hating and wanting to kill, whereas Lapis just thought he was a random human

>
You're ignoring that according to Sugar, Lapis herself, and all logic in the show, she did it for selfish reasons and Jasper was just a scapegoat for the other people she was truly angry at, it wasn't about protecting Steven. See and >
Lapis wasn't the one being violated and forced to fuse, or being trapped under the ocean, or being drowned in their shared mental space. She had all the control and was inflicting all the abuse, confirmed by Sugar, using all her energy to torture Jasper and keep her trapped exhausted her but she enjoyed doing it. Jasper didn't enjoy being tortured but she came around to feeling like she needed Malachite to feel strong despite the suffering Lapis caused her
>
Lapis wasn't ever mislead or manipulated by anyone like Jasper was by Pink Diamond, Lapis was semimisguided in her hatred towards the CGs but not in her several month long fusion rapefest that she premeditated on and deliberately did just to feel in control over someone else for once and vent her anger

Jasper's the one who initiated the fusion, Lapis' first instinct was to flee. Jasper could have easily poofed her right there leaving her in a vulnerable state again, last time she was poofed she was left in a mirror for thousands of years.
>premeditated
It was spur of the moment brought on by Jasper's actions. It's easy to understand why Lapis wouldn't consider someone like Jasper's feelings, she was the enemy. Lapis realized how much she needed a punching bag but initially you can't honestly say protecting Steven wasn't on her mind considering Jasper was literally planning on squishing him if given her way.

It was completely different situation. Lapis attacked Steven because she saw him being friends with her enemies. So she assumed he changed or could change his mind on all mirror issue. It was a misunderstanding.
Jasper tried to kill Steven because of purely autistic idea Steven about being Rose Quarts. She had no reason to believe it. It's purely Jasper's and Diamonds' gimmick. Other gems including Lapis and Peridot were easy to grasp the concept of one person being different from another.

Jasper redemption arc never.

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why would she need redemption if she did nothing wrong

She is still a villain.

Her first instinct was to flee, which really shows how much she cared about Steven, but as soon as Jasper reminded her of her imprisonment in the mirror and put the idea of revenge on her mind she realized that fusing would give her an opportunity to vent all the anger she still had over the mirror incident and give her her own prisoner to torture.

It was premeditated because the scene in Jailbreak shows her taking time to consider her options and then deciding to fuse with a fearless pissed off look on her face even while Steven told her not to, and she bluntly gave away her true motive that had nothing to do with Steve
as she dragged the fusion into the ocean. If it was spur of the moment it wouldn't have lasted for months, she could have let Jasper go if she wanted and Jasper would have been even more powerless against her in the ocean than she was on the beach.

You can't honestly say Lapis had intentions of helping Steven when Jasper was already weakened and beaten and it doesn't stand against all other evidence and confirmations of her doing it for selfish reasons. She doesn't stop acting selfishly until two seasons later in Reunited.

Lapis and Peridot didn't have a prior history with Rose like Jasper and the diamonds did and didn't have much reasons to care or distrust him, Jasper knew he had Rose's gem but didn't know enough about humans to assume that it was anything other than Rose shapeshifting or pretending to be someone else, and nobody tried convincing her otherwise until Steven did in Earthlings while she was literally losing her mind

>She had all the control and was inflicting all the abuse, confirmed by Sugar, using all her energy to torture Jasper and keep her trapped exhausted her but she enjoyed doing it.
It was painful for both of them. The only difference is that Lapis felt remorse while Jasper became addicted.
>not in her several month long fusion rapefest that she premeditated on and deliberately did just to feel in control over someone else for once and vent her anger
Again, you're completely disregarding the situation they're in. Jasperfags think it as if Lapis is the one who controls the situation, but on the contrary, it's more like a see-saw. It's just a shift of power. Jasper controlled Lapis as much as Lapis had controlled her. And in the end, Lapis felt that she is completely losing control over Malachite/Jasper and warned Steven about it.

>she could have let Jasper go if she wanted and Jasper would have been even more powerless against her in the ocean than she was on the beach.
Except fusions don't work that way.

> It was premeditated because the scene in Jailbreak shows her taking time to consider her options and then deciding to fuse with a fearless pissed off look on her face even while Steven told her not to
She made that look just to convince Jasper
RQ was a leader of CG's who kept Lapis in the mirror. How is it not a history?

Lapis says "I was using all my strength to keep Jasper bound to me". She is shown forcing control and forcing Jasper to stay fused by forming water cuffs around Jasper's wrists and ankles in Chille Tid, Jasper never had the power to control Lapis or forced her to stay fused. In Sugar confirms Lapis was the one exerting all the control over Jasper and that Malachite was a punishment Lapis inflicted on Jasper. The reason Lapis freaked out over being offered control of the ship in Alone At Sea was because she felt guilty and no longer trusted herself with having control after forcing control and abusing her powers over Jasper.

>she could have let Jasper go if she wanted and Jasper would have been even more powerless against her in the ocean than she was on the beach.
Nigga, fusion is all about control. Jasper doesn't want to leave Lapis, she wanted complete domination over Malachite. She would even further force Lapis over fusion even if Lapis wanted to break.

Pearl took the mirror, I'm not sure if Garnet and the others ever knew about it.

>Jasper never had the power to control Lapis or forced her to stay fused.
>twist the knife
they both had control over each other as Sugar also confirms in your post. Otherwise that'd be completely against the nature of fusion.
>The reason Lapis freaked out over being offered control of the ship in Alone At Sea was because she felt guilty and no longer trusted herself with having control after forcing control and abusing her powers over Jasper.
She felt guilty because she felt shame over her conflicting emotions, not because of Jasper.

>Her first instinct was to flee, which really shows how much she cared about Steven
can you really blame her for trying to get some distance from the charging violent ape that could poof her in an instant

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I really like that scene. If you pay attention, you can see Amethyst actively shielding Steven which goes to show how close they are compared to Pearl and Garnet.

Jasperfags are all about completely ignoring an actual context while doing their ridiculous accusations.

What are you talking about. It's confirmed multiple times in the show that Lapis was forcing Jasper to stay fused, if Jasper was trying to escape and Lapis ever decided that she was tired of fusion raping her could have just stopped, she didn't because she liked it. Normally fusions can't stay together if one of the gems wants to leave or both of them fall out of harmony but Lapis was using her water powers to keep Jasper chained to her.

>Jasper is literally shown trying to pull apart from Lapis in Jailbreak
>Chile Tid literally shows Lapis keeping Jasper trapped in Malachite with water chains
>Peridot: "so lapis is keeping jasper trapped in a fusion?"
>Lapis literally says she was forcing Jasper to stay fused in Alone At Sea
>pic related
You're fucking delusional.

Where does Sugar confirm Jasper had control over Lapis? She confirms Lapis was the one exercising all the control over Jasper and taking her anger out on her, and that Jasper was angry at Lapis for doing that to her but was willing to go back to it because she's self destructive and Malachite made her feel more powerful. It's impossible for Jasper to have been controlling or abusing Lapis in Malachite when she was the one being forced to stay in the fusion.

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> Normally fusions can't stay together if one of the gems wants to leave or both of them fall out of harmony but Lapis was using her water powers to keep Jasper chained to her.
Lapis didn't chain Jasper to exert her domination. She knew Jasper would control everythng including Lapis at the moment she dropped her power. It was a forced fusion, forced because it was Lapis who was trying to keep things at bay, and failing miserably at it.

>I don't know how fusions work
You could easily admit that instead of a wall of text.

>In "Chille Tid", Lapis struggles to maintain her dominance over Jasper; it is also clear that if Lapis is distracted for the shortest period, Jasper can gain control.
Even wiki confirms it Jasperfag.

why are the crystal gems such dickheads to Lapis, they could have easily saved her
would they have intervened if Jasper poofed Lapis and went to shatter her? I don't know but doesn't seem like it. you'd think they would be a little bit more grateful for warning them about the invasion and also spare a little empathy for keeping her as an item for so long.

where was the Crystal Gem Lapis conflict I was promised, Sugar?

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>crystal gems such dickheads to Lapis, they could have easily saved her
CG's are dickheads to everyone except Steven.

The same shitty wiki that the fucking CREW can't stand.

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You can blame her for agreeing to Jasper's fusion proposition minutes later then forcing herself upon Jasper and not letting Jasper leave their conjoined body for months. Instead of being a sadistic control freak she could of rejected her and used her powers to do something such as punching her away like she did in Alone at Sea or immobilizing her up without fusion rape like she did to Blue Diamond. If Jasper had ever threatened Lapis and didn't just get her ass kicked by Garnet, and Lapis wasn't an OP water bender standing right next to the Earth's supply of water, then maybe the argument that Lapis had to fuse with her to protect herself or Steven might be more justified

Rebecca Sugar:
>"Lapis was using Malachite to exercise control over Jasper and enjoyed it, it didn't matter that it was Jasper because Lapis was angry at a ton of people over their treatment of her in the mirror and she just needed something to take her anger out on"
Lapis:
>"I'm done being everyone's prisoner, now you're my prisoner and I'm never letting you go!" "I liked taking everything out on you, I needed to!"
Retard:
>"Lapis had no selfish motives and was just trying to help"

>"I'm going to ignore characters in the show and the showrunner confirming that Lapis was forcing Jasper to stay fused and scenes depicting Jasper trying to escape Malachite because it doesn't line up with my misinterpretation"
Just say your retarded and go

>one Crew member complains about a technical/personal matter about Wiki which is completely unrelated with the lore
>omg Crew hates it
uh, ok.

Lapifags are retards, we see Jasper trying to escape the fusion at the beginning before being dragged back in by Lapis and Lapis admitted that she kept Jasper bound to her, they ignore canon

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>and Lapis wasn't an OP water bender standing right next to the Earth's supply of water then maybe the argument that Lapis had to fuse with her to protect herself might be more justified
Jasper LITERALLY had Lapis by the chin, how weak do you think Jasper is???

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>"Lapis had no selfish motives and was just trying to help"
Nobody had said anything like that Jasperfag, you're being delusional again. We admit Lapis had faults, but everything was mostly Jasper's fault, why is this so difficult for understand for you? Why do you keep cherrypicking and altering the meanings of the quotes from the show instead of seeing the bigger picture? Why are you such a retard user?

>Crystal Gem Lapis conflict I was promised
We already had it. Like most conflicts in SU, it was a psychological one. I hope you weren't expecting a cartel showdown in SU.

lapis never even interacted with the crystal gems since...uh...is it actually Ocean Gem? the way Jasper convinced Lapis to stop being fussy was that she could finally beat them up

>In the end, Lapis finally loses herself to the fusion, likely meaning that Malachite is finally herself - clearly a different situation compared to the mental war between the two components up to this point. Because of their new bond, Malachite is no longer restrained to the ocean floor. Jasper and Lapis' fusion is still based on anger and mistrust, as Garnet mentioned, but it is no longer fueled by Lapis' fierce desire to keep Steven safe by imprisoning Jasper.
Lapis didn't imprison Jasper for her own amuse. She did because she wanted to prevent Jasper to take control over Malachite.

>referencing a fan run wiki while disregarding in show confirmation by lapis herself that she was forcing jasper to stay fused
rofl

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I think this brief scene and Lapis' reaction actually demonstrates that Lapis was a former slave before rebellion. We all know Sugar loves to foreshadow things as this might also be a foreshadow of her troubled past (not including that flashback of a joke) which we'll hopefully see more in Season 6.

All gems are slaves to the empire and Lapises are terraformers. I'm not sure why you keep pushing this headcanon when it doesn't make any sense.

That "fan run" wiki is a Crew-approved fan wiki as Crew also refers it as a reliable source on given occassions. Anyway, it's sitll more plausible than your shitty headcanon and more widely accepted.

>hurr durr
It's not like Jasper let her go as soon as she got Lapis to stop and listen to her. It's not like Lapis couldn't have just easily punted her across the ocean like she did in Alone at Sea, where Jasper is no longer in a weakened state but still doesn't show any intentions of hurting Lapis even after Lapis rejects her. It's not like we have a ton of other confirmations that she wanted to fuse for her own selfish reasons.

Dumbass

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>Steven Universe will have a "short" season 6, probably meaning a total episode count of 175 or less after 7 years on the air.
>OK KO's third and final season ending this year will probably end the show with an episode count of about 160, the same as SU has right now after a mere two years.
>Teen Titans GO started around the same time as SU and it has 100 more episodes, one more movie and no official word on it ending.

Hmmmmmmmmm......
...
... Yeah, Steven Universe probably ceased production in 2016 or 2017 (maybe even 2015). CN clearly just held onto the episodes for as long as possible.

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Retard delusional Lapishit

Gonna need a source for that sixth one because production is clearly still ongoing for SU. Rebecca said at SDCC there's still a lot to do, not to mention we've had VA's in the studio multiple times since 2017.

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>All gems are slaves to the empire
Hierachy is different than slavery.
>I'm not sure why you keep pushing this headcanon when it doesn't make any sense.
It makes complete sense within the context of the series. Lapis is the Antigone of this show and she needs something to assert and provoke her tragic nature, a catalyst. What's better than a tragic past than slavery?

Sixth? Clearly I'm drunk. I meant first.

she could punt Jasper away in Alone at Sea because they were right above the ocean/Jasper was charging Steven/had no intention of attacking Lapis, if Lapis tried to retaliate or refuse to fuse during Jailbreak I can guarantee Jasper would have poofed her as easily as Bismuth did. Jasper's a highly competent warrior and Lapis was literally closer than arm's reach. I really don't understand how you can even disagree.

I have my own opinions about the Malachite fusion as a whole and no Lapis is not faultless at all she liked using Jasper as her punching bag; but there's more to it than just "Lapis is evil!"

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>You will never have a muscle harem of Jaspers
Life's not fair

not him but I only accept that headcanon and wish it to be true for I want to see more than a gay space sitcom in the next season.

>That "fan run" wiki is a Crew-approved fan wiki
The crewniverse isn't associated with it at all
>Crew also refers it as a reliable source on given occassions
No they don't
>Anyway, it's sitll more plausible than your shitty headcanon
>>Jasper is literally shown trying to pull apart from Lapis in Jailbreak
>>Chile Tid literally shows Lapis keeping Jasper trapped in Malachite with water chains
>>Peridot: "so lapis is keeping jasper trapped in a fusion?"
>>Lapis literally says she was forcing Jasper to stay fused in Alone At Sea
>and more widely accepted
Maybe by other shameless smooth brains of your ilk who have never watched the show

You and a few others in this thread are completely incapable of logic and are disregarding what's what's been confirmed in the show or stated by the showrunner but stay in denial

>diamond conflict is over
>show is slowly turning into a townie hell
>lapis is the only not fully discovered character in the show
>people just want to see something different and use Lapis for it

>You and a few others in this thread are completely incapable of logic and are disregarding what's what's been confirmed in the show or stated by the showrunner but stay in denial
You're the only one who's ignoring logic in this situation Jasperfag.

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>Maybe by other shameless smooth brains of your ilk who have never watched the show
I suggest you shouldn't take the entire wiki up against just for the sake of defending your headcanon.

Lapisfags are extremely butthurt that their character's arc was entirely off-screen, she's the CG that hasn't spoken to any other CG lmao

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Don't worry user, Rebecca also mentioned at SDCC that humans and gems will interact more going forward. Hmm. Now that I think about it, isn't there a new town being built in the movie? Beach City does look pretty fucked up too...

At least she appears in the movie unlike butch cheeto.

She was in a desert when she got poofed by Bismuth. Lapis can defeat all the crystal gems at once and stand her ground against a diamond, Jasper never showed intentions of hurting her, I don't understand how anyone can try to argue that Lapis felt like she was threatened or forced to fuse with Jasper when she's the most overpowered character on the show and was the one forcing Jasper to stay in the fusion for nearly the entire time it lasted

Evidence piles up against your sad attempts to make Lapis into a victim in the situation, she and the crewniverse have confirmed that she was more at fault and unfairly abusing Jasper, you have nothing

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Most people like Pearl, Lapis, Peridot the most... because they are white-coded. The fucking ethnic gems like Amethyst Negro Lips and Garnet are nowhere as popular

>humans and gems will interact more going forward
That's exactly what makes people anxious about the show's future user. I mean, it wasn't also exactly bright before Diamond Days neither, but at least we had a conflict.

I don't think it's as clear-cut a case as you seem to think it is, this level of fusion detail is very vague and you definitely can see Jasper literally trying to pull away from the fusion not unlike when the corrupted gem pulled away from Jasper's fusion in Earthlings.

But I do think by the time of Chile Tid Jasper wasn't trying to free herself but was wrestling for control over the fusion, which is why when we see Jasper win the tug of war in Super Watermelon Island she doesn't break free and instead takes control of Malachite.
>I'm impressed. You really held out.

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I bet you're the same autist that keeps trying to push his fanfiction about Lapis being a slave as canon, you have no sense of self awareness

Jasper is the man in this situation and is physically larger than Lapis, therefore, Jasper is the abuser

>Evidence piles up against your sad attempts to make Lapis into a victim in the situation, she and the crewniverse have confirmed that she was more at fault and unfairly abusing Jasper, you have nothing
I don't remember Crewniverse saying anything related to "Jasper dindu nuttin" in any of the podcasts.

She appeared in CYM too and got 2 words in the entire 45 minutes. She wasn't even there for the corruption healing.
She got a song and no one cared because of the PD reveal and because she was a coward, people are over her. When Jasper gets her arc in Season 6, Lapis will fade even more.

>when she's the most overpowered character on the show and was the one forcing Jasper to stay in the fusion for nearly the entire time it lasted
She is, but not in that circumstance with Jasper literally close enough to grab her by the chin and we have precedence of Lapis being easy to poof. Jasper's a warrior she did not plan to lose that day if Lapis wasn't going to fuse she was a threat that needs to be poofed. Her holding her by the chin by itself may as well be a threat. Jasper had complete control over the situation physically.
>Aw, don't fly off so soon.
But you don't need me to tell you this, this is obvious.

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>talking about self-awareness in a cambodian silk manufacturer's telnet client
Oh the irony.

Her not appearing at the fountain does make a lot of sense though if you think about it. I doubt she wanted to make small talk with Jasper.

I've not really seen anyone anxious about it, more excited tbqh. Getting stories within the timeskip and after should make for a pretty interesting season.

Lapis being a slave is just a meme as no one is taking it seriously except for what if purposes unlike your retarded Jasper headcanon.

But they're still on the shore of a beach, Jasper was right next to her in Alone at Sea where she simply got sent flying, why didn't Lapis do that here and resort to fusing to trap her and make her, her bitch? Oh yeah, because Lapis was angry at a million things and found someone to take all her frustrations out on

Everyone who keeps bringing up Jasper grabbing Lapis all over forgets that Jasper drops her to the ground when it's decision-making time and there is enough distance for Lapis to act on Jasper using the ocean

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> Oh yeah, because Lapis was angry at a million things and found someone to take all her frustrations out on
>found someone
>found
Was Jasper just happened to be there? Is this what you're trying to imply?

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I already said how Alone at Sea was a completely different circumstance. Fuck believe whatever you want Jasper is a jobber who would just sit their with a thumb up her ass while she watched Lapis attack her despite being close enough to lick her. Why not let's say she gave up on winning.

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Even Lapis being a slave despite how stupid or out the touch it sounds is still more plausible than your headcanon Jasperfag.

Jasper basically had the bad luck to be the person who kicked the dog when it snapped and attacked. On the one hand, she’s not responsible for the previous kicks it’d taken, so the response from Lapis is highly disproportionate , but on the other hand, she still shouldn’t have kicked it

What exactly is their headcanon? What is the argument here? Who's the abuser?

Unlike Jasper, Lapis is actually white. I will always support her and Pearl over Amethyst, Garnet, and Jasper

Rebecca did say that Lapis had no idea who to turn her anger on. Jasper was in the wrong place at the wrong time and like you said REALLY shouldn't have kicked her when she was already down.

youtube.com/watch?v=TZjAoGScbSA (6:31)

Rebecca Sugar drew Jasper as a white ginger with freckles

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Jasperfags unironically claim Jasper was forced by Lapis into Malachite fusion which is complete bullshit.

I think there's confusion between forced into and forced to stay in

>"SHE WAS ABLE TO EXERCISE ALL THIS HATEFUL CONTROL OVER THIS PERSON, IT ALMOST DIDN'T MATTER THAT IT WAS JASPER"
Rebecca confirms Lapis had the control over the situation, and Lapis is especially overpowered in a circumstance where she is literally surrounded by water, overpowered to the point where she can lift the entire ocean while single handedly beating three warriors with a cracked gem. Using her powers to keep Jasper chained in the fusion and torture her for so long her took way more strength and energy than punching her away in Alone at Sea or immobilizing Blue Diamond in Reunited did, Jasper had all the crystal gems against her and Lapis could have helped them, fusing was completely unnecessary and Lapis willingly did it because she wanted the control. You can't justify torturing someone just because they're big and scary.

You're pushing a Lapis was a slave meme while rejecting something Lapis confirms in the show, you need to learn the difference between canon and headcanon

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It doesn't matter how powerful Lapis is when her "waterbending" requires either big exaggerated movement or it's slow and she's specifically very fragile who avoids direct combat (fighting through clones in your example).

Unlike Jasper, Lapis actually looks feminine. I will always support her and Pearl over Amethyst, Garnet, and Jasper

It was good, but it was far from the peak s

Is it just me or Jasper really looks like an abusive Pokemon master who forces Lapis to fight against Team Steven?

Lapis being slave makes sense as she’s the only gem we’ve seen without a shoe.

Okay, we see Lapis quickly weaponize water fists and water chains in the blink of an eye in other scenarios like both of the ones I brought up, but in your world, if Lapis didn't want to fuse with Jasper then why did she keep her trapped in the fusion for months? Why didn't she let Jasper unfuse and then crush her with the fucking ocean? Why did she ignore Steven when he told her she should stop or tell him where Malachite was? Why did she say she enjoyed forcing Jasper to stay fused and taking her anger out on her?

When you use logic to come to the conclusion that she did want to fuse and did so because she wanted to take advantage of the chance to have control and use Jasper as punching bag, like it was confirmed by Sugar and Lapis, the only question you're left with is whether Jasper deserved it or not despite never hurting or threatening Lapis and already being beaten by the Crystal Gems when she asked Lapis to fuse.

Because she liked using Jasper as her punching bag, regardless of whatever the initial situation was and whatever fear for her safety around Jasper she had while not trusting the Crystal Gems to back her up.

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Rose?

The actual metaphor being that Steven could never walk a mile in Rose's shoes because she doesn't wear any or something along those lines

So she wanted a punching bag and liked being fused with Jasper but she also didn't want to fuse with Jasper and was totally forced to, she went into the fusion knowing she was going to abuse her powers over Jasper and torture her and keep her trapped in the fusion for eternity but she was also Jasper's scared victim and had no other choice. K.

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Well I just don't understand why people think Lapis was in control of the situation when Jasper was actually manhandling her, being poofed is the literal last thing she would want. Lapis and Jasper were both victims both characters are understandable from their POV, from Lapis' why should feel sympathy for Jasper? And Jasper knows what Lapis can do, or at least she should, and Lapis was right there I'd like to think Jasper isn't so much of a joke that she wasn't prepared to poof her.

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> Expecting Lapisfags to actually watch the show
> Expecting Lapisfags to use logic and reason

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Jasper is a better character than Lapis
but that doesn't change the fact that Jasper could have poofed her in a split second
>Disgut

Rose wasn’t an original gem, so no.

reminder

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Haven't watched since Larz was in space. Did it ever get better?

Jasper was weakened, beaten, and outnumbered, she didn't have power against the crystal gems and could have been wrecked by Lapis' overpowered ass on the beach, the only control she had over Lapis came from Lapis wanting to obey homeworld authority to avoid getting in trouble. She never uses this control to hurt Lapis as Lapis did to her, the worst she did was follow her mission by using her as an informant with Peridot and then throw her in a cell when Lapis lied about "Rose".

Jasper loses all her remaining power when she tries to convince Lapis to fuse, Lapis' anger towards everyone reaches its peak and she stops giving a fuck about staying out of trouble or going back to homeworld, she is not Jasper's victim when she makes the decision to fuse with her just to trick her and trap her in their fusion under the ocean for that sweet torture rape, she was deliberately making her own victim out of Jasper and cruelly trying make her suffer as much as she did in the mirror, Jasper was being isolated, having her consent violated, and getting stripped of her bodily autonomy in Malachite, not Lapis, this is why Rebecca says Lapis was the one who had all the control and was exerting it over Jasper.

I find it hard to see Lapis as Jasper's victim when Jasper did nothing comparable to Lapis, and I feel like if Jasper did to Lapis what Lapis did to Jasper then nobody would try to defend her like they do with Lapis.

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Let's pretend that that's actually true, which it isn't since Jasper required wind up for the attack that squished Amethyst, but whatever we're living in a fantasy world where Jasper has a form disruption grasp I guess.

Their positioning still makes it so Lapis could run into the sea before Jasper could grab her again. She likely could make any move she wanted against her since reaction time is a thing for Jasper, but running into the sea would be the smartest move here. Even if Jasper had the capability of dusting Lapis in less than a second, Lapis had basically nothing to worry about from this position. Her agreeing to fuse was not fueled by self preservation at least.

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Yes, but Yea Forums will tell you otherwise. Just skim Dewey Wins and Gemcation and you should be fine. The two Sadie episodes are fun but otherwise not important so feel free to skim those too.

I just rewatched S4 and aside from some duds, it wasn’t as bad as I remember it being.

The hiatuses really fucking sucked during the start of S4 and since the episodes weren't top tier (apart from Mindful Education) it can make it seem like the worst thing ever. S4 has the best arc in the show and one of the best finales with some individual gems (ba dum tish) sprinkled in here and there.

Bless you, user. You're a saint.

Also Your Mother and Mine is basically a recap so potentially skim that too at least until you see new stuff being talked about. Just be prepared for the plot to go fuckfast after A Single Pale Rose (sometimes to its detriment but w/e).

is the malachite debate the biggest in the show?

I think so. The only one that comes close is the Steven and Connie falling out during S5 but that was two kids being insensitive and overreacting respectively so it's less intensive than GIANT FUSION IS THE PERSONIFICATION OF IMPRISONMENT AND HATE.

Only because it's been around the longest, the half baked facist dictator redemptions have caused most of the controversy since last year.

Nobody really cared about the Diamonds being redeemed since it actually works in the context of the show. Only retards trying to cause a stir like Lily bothered getting up in arms and it's weird how they haven't said a thing since S5 concluded. Wonder why...