Thoughts on Ben 10?

Thoughts on Ben 10?

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Big fan

OG Series - Great
Alien Force - Meh
Ultimate Alien - Meh
Omniverse - Good with some flaws like Ben and Kai's forced relationship
Reboot - Garbage
Live Action Movies - .. no

Original series is fantastic however after that it got consistently worse and worse at each new version

AFOG>UA>OV>Reboot
Only contrarians with an autistic hateboner for Jetray disagree

I disagree because I found the series boring and failed to live up to it's original premise of an older Ben training new heroes.

People hype up the first arc, but it wasn't good at all. They keep jerking around instead of looking for the Highbreed base that's obviously hidden in Los Solidad. It takes a planet getting blown up for Ben and the crew to get off their asses and do something about it.

What’s the status on him now?
I remember when he added the fish and the plant alien, and that arc where they would combine or something, but now there’s like 100 different aliens.
Can anyone give a rundown?

OS and OV work because it understands that the series shouldn’t be too serious or too silly. While they don’t always toe the fine line (esp OV in later seasons) they do it the best overall.

AF/UA takes itself far too seriously and is often more juvenile as a result. Magic is at first retconned because they couldn't reconcile a world with magic and mutant powers with edgy all-alien themes.

Reboot goes the reverse and is genuinely aimed at kindergarten and younger.

I actually didn’t mind Jetray, but Ultimate Alien was so mind numbing boring that my son bailed on me in favor of watching repeats of Spongebob. If Omniverse hadn’t brought back the fun, I likely would have joined him. It was bad, user, really bad.

Actually a pretty big fan of jetray, but if you think UAF were anywhere near the level of OV let alone the OS your judgment is suspect

I love it. Wish we got ben 10K instead of the reboot.

bueno

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>acknowledging the fact Ben chose to be with the worst girl
no just no

Lol you missed a lot
Dude aged up to 15/16
Saved the whole universe several times
Is an intergalactic celebrity
Is an intergalactic police officer
And has 60+ aliens, with more constantly added

His cousin is an alien sorcerer now, too

This desu, alien force had the Kevin and gwen forced relationship if I recall that pretty much ruined it, plus she wasn't as cute as before, then again she was perfection in the og series.

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Look they have literally changed the future on several occasions. So, we can say that they broke up later after kai refused to fuck anyone but Blitzwolfer, and it's just as valid as anyone else's predictions

Worse fandom I’ve ever had the unfortunate experience of being part of.

>His cousin is an alien sorcerer now
With a much more annoying characterization and no fun bantz

>It started when an alien device did what it did

No that would still imply Ben got together and put a baby in that literal shit tier girl known as Kai instead of Julie or the alien girls that were begging for his D

I agree it should have been Julie or the 4 arms girl. And i like Kenny but i think it would be interesting if he had a daughter as well. Have her be just as much of a shithead as her old man

The only thing I liked about Alien Force was Ben becoming a mother.

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Lets all be honest now, the only girl he should have put his super seed into was Gwen, sure a bit too much sweet home Alabama but damn it, she is the only one worth it.

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>sure a bit too much sweet home Alabama
The only thing you're being honest about, only redneck pedos would choose Gwen with Ben, that's a fact.
Ben with Looma or literally any other girl aside Kai are way better options.

>Wanting Gwen to stick with Kevin
>His name is fucking Kevin for fucksake and he tried to kill her and her family a ton of times, makes no damn sense.
>not also being down with Ben having a harem.

>thinking I care about Kevin at all
>into harem shit
Welp.

Why is it always a pedo thing?
They're all underaged.

>not being into harem shit where the MC gets all the girls because fuck only picking one.
>Welp

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OG - Cool
AF - Absolute neat/ baby teen show
UA - bland
Omniverse - TTG tier aka irremediable shit , waifufags will think is on par with the original but nah their brain is just rotten
Reboot - Cheapest stuff , canadian tier

I'll give you OV > UA but AF is generally considered far better than OV by most people and the debate tends to be over AF vs OS

OS- Great
First 2 seasons of AF- Great!
Rest of AF- Meh
UA- So boring I literally don't remember it
OV- Good

Reboot- Didn't Watch

Why hate specifically Jetray?

Still my favorite cartoon series even though it has its ups and downs. Haven't watched the reboot yet might watch it one day

Because he was used too much despite other AF aliens being used way more often and his design is bad when the only Omniverse alien that doesn't have a shit design or isn't entirely redundant is Gravattack.
Jokes on OVfags though, Jetray is about to be in the reboot with no OV alien in sight

>Ben acting like the alien Unabomber in Flamekeeper's Circle for no reason
wew

i used to watch the original cartoon from time to time when i was a kid,never ay too much attention to it. them when ultimate alien and alien force came along i pay even less atention to them,i watched it a coupe of times but i didnt like it. But for some reason when omniverse came along i loved it,it was great, watching omniverse with you guys was really a blast,those were the days

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>but AF is generally considered far better than OV by most people
Far better by most people? I really don't think that is the case.

If we're just talking statistics, then a simple look at imdb scores throughout both series show that individual episodes where generally considered better in the OS. It's not an accurate measure by any means, but the opinions on the shows are far closer than you think.

OG Series - Top 5 Cartoon
Alien Force - Shit
Ultimate Alien - Putrid dogshit
Omniverse - Terrible but at least it’s the second best
Reboot - Unwatchable shit
If it ever gets a good anime, there could finally be a great spinoff of Ben 10 that actually rivals the OG series

IMDB scores have AF and the OS both at 7.1/10 with OV at 5.8/10.
Additionally, according to viewership ratings here
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It seems to suggest that Alien Force reruns were generally either near or exceeded Omniverse's viewership

he's a shitty combination of bens travel aliens with a lamer version of eye guys powerset

Ah, fuck me, I have dyslexia.
I thought you wrote OS, not OV. My bad.

OS- one of my favorite childhood shows
AF- it was all right with some decent highpoints
UA- one of the worse cartoons I've subjected myself to completely finishing
OV- its high points are the best ben10 has to offer, its low points are almost as bad as UA, all in all, it was on par with AF more or less
Reboot- I really like the 1st season finale

OS was great. Every new alien added to Ben's arsenal felt special and unique. The stories were played out in fantastical ways that didn't care if it was stupid or not. The timeskip honestly dampened what made the OS great.

*father*

You fags can hate on UA all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that the ultimatrix was the best watch.

>Ultimatrix
God that shit had so much potential in both merchandise and cool alien designs but instead we got shit like Ultimate Cannonbolt and Fasttrack. Reminds me a bit about how AF was supposed to have a new set of aliens.

>no one at Cartoon Network has come up with Ben 10 gacha and instead made some shitty mobile game for it
Ben 10 gacha could make so much fucking money if done right it's not even funny

imagine all the swimsuit versions of bens aliens
>swimsuit ghostfreak
>>swimsuit fourarms
>>>swimsuit ballweevil
>>>>swimsuit ripjaws
>>>>>swimsuit alien x
the possibilitys write themselves

>ultimate aliens
>fusion aliens
>variant aliens
>alternate universe ultimate aliens
>alien predators
>versions of aliens for every art style era
>crossovers with other cartoons
>have shit like merchandise and episodes have codes and shit to get free things in Ben 10 gacha
It's ez money

I was just being silly imaging alien x in a speedo but yeah no, your idea sounds way more practical

>Reminds me a bit about how AF was supposed to have a new set of aliens.
This. When Ben got the master control back you'd think we see some new ones, but instead Ben just uses the AF10, along with the OS aliens every now and then.

No, the other user was right. Ben became a mother, because Big Chill laid eggs and had babies. He even defuses Ma Vreedle with this, claiming he knew how she felt, because he was a mother too. Granted, that trick only worked once because his kids fucked off to the coldest parts of the universe to grow into Slightly Larger Chills, but he still canonly refers to himself as their mother.

He's slimy, creepy, fast and strong. He's every shape and size

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I remember when he was nothing but a bloody mess in the floor.

I think UA had better individual episodes than AF but I still think OV is the best

Original series was great and one of my favorite CN shows from that time. No opinion on the others.

the original series holds a special place in my heart. My main complaint is that things could get a little too goofy at times and they gave up good chances for character development in favor of jokes and maintaining the status quo

Omniverse had the best Charmcaster design

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Poor Charmcaster. She tried so hard and failed even harder.

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You get an Omnitrix. Pick only 5.

Alien X
Ripjaws
NRG
Upgrade
Stinkfly

Imagine Four Arms groping your body, restraining you in a chokehold with one arm, rendering you helpless as he inserts two thick fingers in your hole searching for your prostate. Once he finds it he starts teasing you despite your futile struggle. That's when he leans over and grazes his third hand over your chest as he searches for your now erect nipples, finally pinching your left one ever so slightly. You beg him to stop but your quiet moans betray you. He smiles slyly with the satisfaction that you're secretly enjoying his big, rough hands manhandling your small human body. That's when he reaches under your thigh. Rolls your balls around his fourth hand, dancing between his warm fingers as they retract in response to your arousal. He squeezes you a bit. First your neck. It's warm and comfortable, you close your eyes. He lays a grip on your now erect shaft. You sigh as you feel him switch to your other nipple. He pulls back your foreskin. You furrow your brow. He pokes your prostate. You feel his finger teasing your head. He starts whispering in your ear. You don't hear words, only a comforting deep voice. The hand on your shaft is now lubricated in precum. You feel euphoric. He starts slow. Then speeds up. Then slows down. Then speeds up. You're on a rollercoaster of ecstasy. Your four pressure points in constant stimulation. You feel the warmth of his body against your back, his chest breathing at an increasingly rapid rate. You let your head back to feel him more. He speeds up. You slow down. He whispers more into your ear but you still cannot make out a word, you are too preoccupied with a single sense. You feel warm all over. You feel a pressure about to burst. Overcome by routine, you try to control yourself one last time, only to be reminded of the hulking being wrapped around you. Routine reflexes dissolved into struggle, but you felt satisfied in what little control you managed to exhibit, for the rest came just the same.

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So are the aliens that Ben turns into real beings? Because ghostfreak was sentient and so was the ice bug thing

They're not suppose to be. The ghostfreak thing happened because Ectonurite's consciousness goes down the genetic level. Big Chill was a case of instinct overriding Ben's mind. The Ultimate aliens also became self aware and Azmuth mentions that's not suppose to happen.

so they're still ben then?

I liked Dark Elf Charmcaster

Yes. They’re just Ben with the biological makeup of an alien.

Gwen

It sucks. All of it.

>Kills your ship
The Benbowl was RIGGED

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its ok, its only as canon as the producers decide it is
of course, since we're never going back to original canon ever again, we're stuck with kai

Saddest part is that Gwen gets all the art so we'll never see her take Blitzwolfer's knot, which is all she's good for

which show had the geek(glasses/braces) gwen? best sequel for me

Goop
Cannonbolt
Benwolf
Jetray
Waybig

omniverse, she didn't have braces
she did however, have freckles

>no one questioned Clockwork manipulating Hal's ring to its time limit, NRG's existence or Lodestar being apparently powerful enough to take apart higher dimensional things
I know Hal speedblitzes but you'd think someone would have asked about those things in the DB cast

For something that was only good for a couple of years. It's weird how firmly entrenched into the animation cultural zeitgeist it is.

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A few episodes of the original aired in my country and I loved it as a kid. Unfortunatelly they didn't show them all though for some reason. Later on they aired alien force but I detested the change of artstyle and dropped it

you've clearly never discussed Ben 10 around here. the local consensus is OS>OV>>>AF>UA

That's just Yea Forumsntrarianism

easy way to dismiss an argument you don't personally agree with

can we not do this again? there's already a thread about the DB, no need to do that here

Anybody who does not pick XLR8 or Ghostfreak is lying.

Atomix
Whampire
Jetray
Swampfire
Ampfibian

not lying

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>tfw it's Hal's offspring in Gwen's womb
Nice.