Rocko's Modern Life Static Cling thread

because it's rocko's modern life but set too make fun of and talk about modern day shit. and regardless of how hard people pound there head against the table lgbt shit is certainly covered under modern day.

>Twelve Forever
>She-Ra season 3
>now Rocko
you think this is enough all-nighters?

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eh more for the watch list for this weekend, not like i got anything better to do.

Kill yourself Helen Lovejoy

Trans shit, trans shit everywhere. Ready for IZ to be about some trannie shit as well.

I think the lack of Helen Lovejoys in the world is why everything is falling apart.

Wasn't the "modern life" part specifically about making fun of modern topics? What's the point in implementing an occurrence from today that can't even be the subject of friendly ribbing without a bunch of people shitting down your throat for it?

>Trans shit, trans shit everywhere.
Everyone fucking says this but where actually is all this trans shit besides Stevens universe

>friendly reminder they exposed us to sexual innuendos when we are kids

>Wasn't the "modern life" part specifically about making fun of modern topics?
from little clips have been made available, yes.
> What's the point in implementing an occurrence from today that can't even be the subject of friendly ribbing without a bunch of people shitting down your throat for it?
haven't seen the scene nor how they plan to talk about it, who knows, frankly by the end of the night someone will be ass pained.

Who cares?

Watch that show and you'll see. Certainly full of gay shit.

I knew this thread would be derailed.

Why are fags in Yea Forums media though?

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>implying kids give two fucks about Rocko's Modern Life

Where the fuck is the dickgirl porn already?

>Implying children are the intended demo of a Netflix special of a 90s Nicktoon

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What? The cow?

>Why are fags in Yea Forums media though?
they've been in Yea Forums media for 20 or so years, user.

user is an faggot. It should be obvious by now. If there were an official, fully-transparent system for assessing whether a user's actions are offensive, then we would have none of these problems. This is because, as the Supreme Court explained in a 1986 case, "an individual who repeatedly makes offensive comments that seem merely to have fun or amusement while continuing to maintain that he is not doing so is probably harmless. One might not consider such behavior offensive at first, but once it enters the public mind he becomes so dangerous that there is no room left for polite polite discourse" (p. 25). While the courts will often concede that users of social network systems may have the right to free speech, they will not give blanket permission to users of any other online activity.

The reason for this is straightforward: as the justices explained in their 1986 case,

An individual who takes such a position by himself does not constitute a direct threat to anyone and is thus, by his own words, protected from being punished by law by public opinion....[T]he mere expression of a personal opinion is not an advocacy for violence. It is speech only when it is thoughtfully and effectively expressed in the exercise of choice-making power. If, on the other hand, a user makes inflammatory or derogatory comments about the police force or the clergy in the midst of a conversation with the group

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>why are fags promoted in Yea Forums media in such obvious and outright ways, and why are trannies there too
>especially like Steven Universe's lesbian orgy known as Garnet

better now, user?

I still don't understand why it's ralph that troons out. Why not Heffers brother?

Can somebody drop the MEGA that has all of the episodes? And can you drop Zim too?

Nice, because these assholes Keep spoiling shit. I got 5 threads hidden

What part of 'THEY'RE TURNING THE FROGS GAY' do you not understand?

why would they build the plot around Heffer's brother, dude

I hope she still has a penis.

Please tell me Dr Hutchinson is in this.

Whoops was mean for

Are you the same faggot from the other thread?

You'd better believe it!

Because if any character from the series would go tranny you'd think it would be the crossdressing dancer guy.

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It's 2019 user. Keep up or die

back to /pol/ with your subhuman kind

>why are fags promoted in Yea Forums media in such obvious and outright ways, and why are trannies there too
your error is thinking this a new thing, cartoon creators are just allowed to be more open about it rather than keeping it in the background or tongue and cheek. second verse same as the first, broadcast regulations become less restricting all the time, outside of certain countries of course, but at the end of the day if someone really want's to they'll find a way to pirate it regardless of broadcast laws.
>especially like Steven Universe's lesbian orgy known as Garnet
you seem to have mixed up garnet and fluorite and i have no idea how you managed to do that, considering one is the gem equivalent of the human centipede but mormon. also garnet is a low risk character as far as lgbt shit goes.

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I hope they make a Camp Lazlo reference

Maybe they shouldn't be allowed to be so open

Also yes, I meant Fluorite.

Garnet is just normal lesbian faggotry

youtube.com/watch?v=dy-6I8f89K4

It could be worse- there would have also been a #MeToo moment with Gladys.

Someone said Joe said the villain was based off trump but I can't find the source anywhere, were they lying?

>If, on the other hand, a user makes inflammatory or derogatory comments about the police force or the clergy in the midst of a conversation with the group
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I think your post was cut short there.

>Rocko's Modern Life (DVD Remux, NTSC Shout Factory)
Season's 1-3:mega.nz/#F!7fJl0YCT!znB_DaxwO6sooZTlmW3C0Q
Season 4:mega.nz/#F!DOYVjKbS!r8xXd32NjTgZZLi3QAgQiQ

Much like every other time someone has said that, I'm certain it is a fucking lie. I remember when this shit started when faggots lied about there being an orange alien who runs up the camera acting like a retard in Rogue One

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Lumpus is in one shot of the Comic Con sneak peak.
Pic's low quality as fuck, but hopefully you can make out that it's him.

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dude as someone who knows about the early hell that was an entire era of so many broadcast restrictions that people couldn't psychically punch one another and guns merely being on screen was a no-no, more restrictions isn't a path you wan't to go down it just fuels peoples victim complex, just ride the wave until it's not some special thing to include and not watch the shows you don't like that have it, the last thing we need is government regulation on what art can be produced, especially in an era where tv broadcast laws hardly effect shit when you just stream everything.

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You can not deny a certain bias among the cartoon making crowd.

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Rocko's MODERN Life

>2019
>The state of Rocko

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Sure is! Best toons of all time my man, that's all Im gonna do and I can't wait!

The antagonist is probably Mr. Bighead. He's not going to approve of Ralph's transition, and I mean.. he already looks like Pepe.

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It really was, a Rocko’s modern life...

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Rocko lives in a society

All 90s cartoons did.

And now I'm a super degenerate. Shit, maybe he has a point.

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Underrated post.

BUMP

I wonder if she moved on from filbert?

>using the Shout DVD rips instead of the Germany Blu-Ray rips

Pathetic.

>"think of the children" moralfagging

Are you a boomer by any chance?

Not watching transfaggotry, thanks anyway.
#GetWokeGoBroke

Try not watching every gay show Netflix shits out, dumb sodomite.

>If, on the other hand, a user makes inflammatory or derogatory comments about the police force or the clergy in the midst of a conversation with the group-

Damn I hate cliffhangers.

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Hating something just because it has progressive elements is just as retarded as liking something just because because it has progressive elements.

i'm curious to hear what you watch in terms of Yea Forums media desu.

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it's been out for like an hour in my country. can confirm that it's great

Does Rocko get laid?

You'd better cover that answer with black text!

Well, I also never thought the entire plot of the movie would be centered around Ralph being trans, so anything goes, I guess.

I'm fine with there being adult trans characters in kids characters. It's when they push the idea of there being trans teenagers and children that seems out of whack. They haven't even fully developed yet, how would a thirteen-year old feel like the wrong gender when they've barely been alive long enough to know what it means to be their current gender?

Like some of the staff trying to push Princess Marco as a trans icon. Marco never felt like a girl, he was just simply fine wearing a dress like it was a normal article of clothing. It's insane to think that because a guy isn't humiliated wearing a dress, he must deep down feel like a woman inside. Severely misguided fire.

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i don't want to spoil too much because so much of the special's has been shown off already, but he doesn't :(

the special's plot*

I guess they'll keep it open for if they actually bring the show back, but damn, if this actually is the last we see of Rocko, then my man's never gonna find love

You shouldn't, because it's adult trannies who push the tranny meme on children.

Sabrina Cotugno and Joe Murray aren't trans.

I think with teenagers if they say they feel like they might be trans you should let them explore that within reason without pushing either way too strongly.

It's forced as absolute fuck, but I'll tolerate it if it doesn't get preachy or make Ed out to be evil for not accepting """""""""""her"""""""""""""" right away. Clownworld etc

Id be fine with trans characters in general if they\d just treat them like any other character in the show, but they're always a big deal and can't have flaws or bad things happen to then.

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I can't tell if this is an argument for or against the ability to criticize lgbt media

It shouldn't be released early for anyone.

>how would a thirteen-year old feel like the wrong gender when they've barely been alive long enough to know what it means to be their current gender?
You'd be surprised. It seems incomprehensible to people that don't experience dysphoria, because not having to deal with dysphoria means the idea didn't even cross your mind. I may have been a more contemplative child than most, but as far back as first grade I expressed dissatisfaction with the idea of growing up to be a man, and felt that I wanted to be like the girls in my class. My mom found some drawings I'd done around the time I was in 2nd grade that showed themes of transformative gender and I've been told that at least once I was caught putting a Ken doll in Barbie dresses, though I don't specifically recall that. I didn't have a word for what I was feeling, but I had definitely been feeling it. Had I known about the idea of being transgender, I may have been able to identify that in myself.

I'm not going to pretend that's true of everyone and I don't even know if you could call it typical, but I do know that it was a recurring thorn in my mind even in my adolescence. I'm fairly certain that having dysphoria makes anyone more likely to have thought about what gender means to them than an average person of the same age. Before anyone jumps to it, no I'm not advocating letting literal children transition.

do you have any evidence of this? the only trans member of production i can think of is that person who made that show crunchy roll fags are upset about. and even then the main cast is just all magical girls, a brown elf and a "dwarf"

there is some lewd stuff in the special though

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WHERE IS THE PORN

That's too lewd for one spoiler, user. Figure out how to spoiler that spoiler.

But then what about the idea that dysphoria can also come from a society who aggressively pushes stereotypes? If dolls and skirts were gender-neutral, would people still feel like the wrong gender? A big problem I have with identity labels as of late is that it goes against the 80's and 90's trend where people were trying to push, "Yeah, so what if a girl plays sports? She's still a girl." or "Yeah, so what if He-Man likes to paint and watch musicals? He's still He-Man."

It hits a point where people now-a-days would go, "Oh, Spinelli HAS to be a lesbian because she likes sports!" or "He-Man MUST be a gay icon, because he's a buff man who wears pink". And the whole non-binary shit where if you're a woman who goes against social norms, you're non-binary? Why do you have to label yourself a different kind of woman just because you don't act like Pacifica?

To me, the big rise in people feeling like they have gender confusion is because groups have been aggressive in enforcing stereotypes and saying, "If you don't follow this, you're something else".

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Even speaking as a liberal who genuinely believes in trans rights

This feels hollow and disingenuous and frankly I didn't want Rocko of all fucking things to talk about it. I get what they're going for, Rocko was always a satire about the state of the "modern" world, but something about this feels tacked on for the sake of it and it being "trendy" in the same way environmentalism was in the 90s fittingly enough.

It feels misguided at best.

I'm still going with my original theory that it would be better to give it a funny cartoon metaphor like Ralph dressing up as a hotdog and wanting to be called Frank instead of just having, "Here's Rachel" with no joke.

The clowns episode was funny because it layered an issue with a funny metaphor. There's nothing funny if Mr. Bighead was just shouting, "I'M NOT GAY!".

Honestly, this ia a good discussion that needs to be had, but until we really do some research into how sex, gender identity, gender presentation, and gender expression relate to one another, we're never going to get anywhere.

Define trans rights for me. What rights do they not already have?

I have faith this won't fall in line with those "woke" stories because Joe Murray one of the most humble artists I've seen in the industry right now and I feel this trans story is just a trans story and nothing more.

Just because trans people exist that doesn't mean it's "propaganda" to turn the frogs gay... Okay so we have a gay frog in this but still.

Do we know if Ralphchel is gay?

Everyone is talking about Rachel but nobody is talking about how fucking bad Rocko has been drawn in all of these screenshots.

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Is the villain really a trump parody? And does Rachel keep the same voice the whole special?

If they make a straight tranny I’ll still watch but if Rachel is a transbian I’m not watching it.

I swear, I feel like the length of the movie decreased with each article I read over time. Unless I'm just making shit up, I swear I saw the original runtime was 75 minutes like, a year and a half ago. Then it got boiled to 60 minutes. Now it's a 45-minute special. I feel like when it's actually released on Netflix, it'll end up being a half hour cartoon.

That's a weird distinction to make.

Wikipedia is already updated with the usual experimental pronoun retcon. Not even trying to bash it too hard, but people really do have trouble figuring out the appropriate language for all this, huh?

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>Is the villain really a trump parody?
nah it's more like a parody of large businesses that's typical for Rocko
>does Rachel keep the same voice the whole special?
yes

What a nice birthday surprise.

His model was always pretty shifty. They even made jokes about it in the old show. I just feel like it's more noticeable with the brushed in computer animating. Imprecision stands out more.

I agree with this user. Really not a fan of this, but I'll reserve judgment until I see the special myself

>nah it's more like a parody of large businesses that's typical for Rocko
So Trump?

There is a learning curve. Kinda varies from person to person too. One of my friends is Trans, and she prefers we use her new pronouns, even for referring to her int he past. However, I have another acquaintance who is fine either way. Honestly, most trans people I've met are chill about it, as long as you aren't being a dick intentionally.

That's always been par for the course with Rocko though. The show has always been fairly anti-corporation.

It’s really not if you know what you’re talking about. There are plenty of straight trannies that are normal people but if you see a tranny that is a sociopath, a pedophile, insane, extremely ugly or just a freak in some nature, there is a 98% chance they identify as a “lesbian”. If you don’t believe me go to /lgbt/ and ask them, people who are trannies or surrounded by them on a regular basis, and they will tell you the exact same thing. Pic very much related.

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So far, based on what Joe has said about it, I'm optimistic. He was worried the network would make him water the idea he had down, but they didn't, and GLAAD mostly liked what he already had, and only suggested they tweak the design and how the character was introduced as Rachel.

The only tran I'm close to is a lesbian, and she's pretty cool. I think you need to spend less time on the webbernet.

It probably did run in an hour timeslot including ads.

When's it airing?

>my personal anecdote negates all other data

I’m sure she is a good person but that doesn’t change the fact that I could give you over one hundred examples proving otherwise.

If not longer, given modern day Nick. I be it'd be longer had it been made for Netflix.

If you're a thin-skinned Trump voter who takes every stock anti-corporate message as a personal attack, then sure, it's Trump.

I'm not disagreeing with you user. It's just that one of those cartoonish businessmen that Rocko parodied back in the 90s is now a prominent world ""leader""

>What I've read on four chan dot org negates all other data

Provide some data and we'll talk.

it's not, the rights got sold off to netflix because the hey arnold movie didn't meet nick's spongebob standard.

Not me user. But I guarantee they're going to see it that way

Look, it's not Joe Murray's fault that the world has come so close to what was once parody.

It's something of an issue with the brain collecting societal behavior patterns. The actual trappings of gender stereotypes are less important than the fact they're seen as gendered one way or the other. So the brain, thinking of itself as female, tries to copy what it sees as being part of a female social role.

You're right that there's probably some amount of misattribution going on though. Just liking girly things doesn't make you trans, but a female-identifying trans person is going to be likely to want to like girly things. In your examples, people are superficially focusing on the what instead of the why. Stereotypes are essentially mental shortcuts, a method for the brain to quickly slap together a profile for someone that it knows very little about in order to hopefully have a reference point for predicting how that person will behave and how to interact with them. It's theorized to be something humans developed in order to have a better chance of surviving encounters with other unfamiliar humans, but humans also commonly ascribe certain stereotypes themselves. It provides something that a person can latch onto and give themselves confidence for being part of something. One way this affects people is prompting them to want to find ways to fit something they like into their stereotype, because it strengthens the "group" they're including themselves in.

They literally had a character named Donald Frump who was the elephant CEO of Conglomo back when the show originally aired

>just Yea Forums

Literally go to Twitter, Reddit, and Tumblr or any trans related forum and you’ll see that the weirdos at best and predators at worst are nearly always transbians. There is a reason they are hated by literally every other letter in the LGBT. I’m a fucking tranny myself so I don’t have an agenda, I’m just stating the facts.

Ralph was always the most out of place character in the show. He's voiced by and based on Joe Murray, right? I dont assume Joe is trans

its out in the UK

I'm Bi, and I've literally never had a problem with trans people. I've met shitty ones who identify as gay and straight. Like I said, you can't base your opinion on internet cesspools.

I know user.

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>provide some data

kiwifarms.net/threads/jonathan-yaniv-jessica-yaniv-trustednerd-trustednerd-com-jy-knows-it-jy-british-columbia.49790/

I can post a lot more if you like.

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If he has, he hasn't said anything about it. Honestly, I think this arc kind of makes sense for Ralph/Rachel, given their previous story-lines.

And there was that whole Recycling episode.

This isn't data. This is just more, like you said, anecdotes. Anecdotes are not data.

From what I understand, it's mostly about wanting to make it more straightforward to get yourself legally recognized as the gender you identify as, which is varingly complex between different countries and even different states. You may be required to have undergone bottom surgery to be able to get your legal gender updated depending on where you live, and you may be required to get your legal gender updated to be allowed to undergo bottom surgery, creating a legal deadlock for some.

Ralph's story arcs have always been about some sort of identity crisis.

Bleh, forgot to reply.

Being honest, despite airing when I was around 5 or 6 years old and watching a few episodes here and there I never really got into Rocko. Maybe because the comedy was more for grown-ups who knows. But I liked the music, setting and character designs plus the comedy seemed solid so even if I wasn't the biggest fan back then im still looking forward to watching it tomorrow. I'm happy for anything that makes me remember my childhood

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Exactly. This fits pretty well. Assuming they did a good job. I'm reserving judgment.

>its interesting, perhaps we should think about it
I dont think it needs much research and development at all, the best thing to do is realize that while its all arbitrary, gender norms are all curated ideas you can use however you'd like. Obsession and stress is probably really bad, so avoid that, but personally the actual sex change surgery is a very experimental step beyond and I dont think its the type of healthy enlightenment we're really shooting for here.. Im not in charge of other people's lives though, and am not a doctor.

Ah political red tape.

Thats fine and all, but people arent really petitioning in uproar just over that.

Rocko was always more like an adult newpaper comic about work, home ownership, and other adult issues

The problem is we haven't really done much research into why trans people exist, and why gender identity exists. Until fairly recently, it's been too taboo or pathologised to really study impartially.

Why is this bad? It's not like any of Murray's cartoons are supposed to be super tight or clean. Not strictly going by models is fine when your aesthetic is wacky and loose to begin with, it's just not okay when your aesthetic is supposed to be solid and tight constructed with perfect circles. That's when it becomes distracting. The more precise your designs, the more obvious it becomes when you draw off model. Rocko is far from being conservative, so if anything, drawing more loosely but within the perimeters of the basic design only benefits the look.

Yeah it matches up, i wonder if this will actually be a significant part of the movie or will just be a small thing. It probably is just one of a deluge of references to the times changing, which is what the movie is about

What about it?

>Mrs. Bighead ends up supportive of Rachel
>Mr. Bighead will do the classic "I have no son" schtick.

Just saying Joe Murray has always had a lefty bent in the cartoon.

Joe would have outed himself in the EW article for the most points so what's the point of waiting until Friday?

He's also like 58 and looks like this so that'd be one ugly transition.

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Which is pathetic because I think most people have a prerty clear idea its just none of it is recorded on paper or in scientific ways so we have to go around pretending like nobody has any data on this, when fucking everybody knows we all have been trying to meet gender standards for intimacy and family purposes, and some people love it and some people are suicidal over it. Thats basically it. Just don't self harm over it okay?

Yeah pretty much

You're not allowed to have jokes with trans people user, thats transphobic

I actually totally agree with all of this. The attribution of certain traits as gendered is the problem. So a guy wants to wear a dress and make-up sometimes, that's fine. I honestly think it's weirder that our society won't let him do that without having to re-establish himself as a woman 24/7.

I've talked at length with a friend about this and I think the weird gendered boxing that's implicit within the entire practice of classifying of people as either male / female / trans is just our society sorting itself out on the way to becoming truly non-gendered. I think within a few decades we'll be able to wrap our heads around the idea of a guy wanting to wear a dress without having to say he's a woman but right now the entire idea of the binary is too culturally ingrained to shake. It's funny though, I know a lot of people have a harder time (myself included) wrapping their heads around the strange half-way point we've reached at the present.

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I can believe we've reached a point where a rich person being evil in a children's cartoon is viewed as a political statement.

I mean... Ed's not wrong. He has no son.

i would only be okay with Rachel Bighead if they did this kind of joke.

>Ed: So, you're Rachel now?
>Rachel: Yeah dad, it's who I am
>Ed: Oh no, you don't have feelings for Rocko, do you?! Or any of his other disgusting friends?
>Rachel: Heck no, dad. I have standards.
>Ed: phew, dodged a bullet there.

Bonus points if Rocko and the gang are right there.

>Rocko: Uh, Rachel, we can hear you, you know?
>Ed: CAN'T YOU SEE I'M BONDING WITH MY KIN, ROCKO?!

I wonder how many times a father is supportive of their LGBT child while the mother isn't. I don't think I've seen it in any media.

So we're going to stop giving kids puberty blockers and discourage awkward teenagers and manchildren from taking HRT and getting major surgery?

Something I noticed on Joe's website while crawling around for any sign that he's an egg.

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That's what happens when your government is run by evil rich guys.

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That'd be a slam on transgendered people user

>"I HAVE NO SON"
>"I have a daughter"
>cue music and hug
Where do I pick up my fruity little queer writing award?

Gonna leave that tot he doctors who actually know shit about it. I'm just some guy on Yea Forums.

Jesus Christ man, that's some cringe. Have some decency.

You wouldn't happen to know where I could find those, would you? I've been meaning to watch it, but hate the censorshit.

So is it Chewy Chicken or Chokey Chicken?

Chokey Chicken.

It's Chokey, they had a promotional still and it had a "health conscious" version of the logo where it's scrawny

Dib is going to come out as trans and his father, Professor Membrane is going to tell him science dose'nt work that way, which will lead to the show being pulled from netflix for transphobia.

There's a pretty decent idea of the general mechanics of it. Animal fetus studies show the brain and the genitals develop gender differences at difference stages of growth. Brain scans and postmortem autopsies of individuals that have expressed gender dysphoria show that most of the structures in the brain that develop differently between men and women tend to be closer to what the individual identified as than to what is typical for their birth sex. Even stimulated brain activity, such as exposure to certain pheromones, follows the individual's gender identity over their birth sex.

In essence, the current understanding of it is that dysphoria is correctly identifying a disconnect between how your brain and body developed. As for the specifics of what is causing the different development between parts of the same body, that's still a mystery and one that'll be tough to crack, especially with it being difficult to really get a large sample of transgender individuals at different stages of development. You'd be very hard pressed to be able to confidently tell whether or not a fetus is transgender and could contribute relevant research data.

Why not both?

Yea Forums's OC transgirl's backstory is like that.

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The recent comic mini-series had Filbert living alone in his trailer again.

God I wish Yea Forums wasn't collectively afflicted with ADHD. Sometimes we create cool stuff.

>dumb tranny shit
>"cool stuff"
Yeah dude, also dilating is awesome.

I think, given VRchat, if people could easily and reversibly change their sex without consequence, you'd have a shitload of people who casually spend some time as a cute girl regardless of their gender identity.

The worst part is that someone who seemed to have a really good grasp of the character was doing art for her and outlined the story, but never got around to doing a proper comic.

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Reminder that transshit isn't normal. Especially SRS. Wanting to mutilate your body has never been normal, no matter what the reason. Also, gender dysphoria is a mental illness, and people who have it should be helped, rather than celebrate it. You see anyone celebrating depression, anxiety, or any other mental illness? Generally, transshit isn't sustainable or safe for anyone involved. Especially not for kids who unfortunately get dragged into this shit.

There are also gay guys and sexually generic dudes who just let loose and party with whomever, who wear dresses and lipstick because it makes their dick hard. Not to be crude or dismiss transgenderism, but there's no denying a lot of people are just screwing around or trending towards it due to bipolar behavior or other nonsexual identity issues

>a fag on Yea Forums telling people what is and isn't normal

Up yours pal. I'm at least trying.

We get it, you hate trannies. Geeze, learn a new song.

What if I just wanna look and dress like a girl but wanna keep my dick

They are helped. The way we help them is by allowing them to transition into a social role that fits the psychological reality of their gender identity.

Literally the only treatment for dysphoria that has proven somewhat effective is HRT and surgery.

Then you're a trap

Yeah, 'trying' to blame the writing of a movie you haven't seen yet for not handling a notable inclusion like a toddler would

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>did someone say "really really big man?"

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Do you identify as a girl, or do you just like acting and dressing like one?

>broken record Yea Forumsermin screeches buzzwords and demands dick suck
god i hate the eternal summer.

Read the thread and learn something 2D man

Then what about detransitioners

That's a lot more redpilled than surgery. People using norms and memes the way they want to create that new generation of life they were born for, that shit's awesome. The surgery right now is just too ambitious. Again, I'm not a doctor, its just a real step beyond and frankly I think it has nothing to do with the rest of the condition.

No, the only effective treatment has been an anti-psychotic called pimozide. Mutilating trannies doesn't help shit.

Very few

Everybody hates trannies.

Yeah, mistakes and misdiagnoses happen, but they make up an incredibly small, if vocal, amount of those who transition.

I was misdiagnosed with depression as a kid, and given treatment that fucks up my brain, but that doesn't mean depression doesn't exist or should never be treated.

Given the suicide rates, at least 40% "detransition".

you tried your autistic screeching fit last night, it's too early for a rerun user.

> me
> not a tran
> doesn't hate trans
Nah, it's just you and your weirdo friends.

That's a hell of a misdiagnosis if it results in you becoming infertile and losing your dick

Get your final predictions in will they make anyone else fags besides the trans thing

>a tranny on Yea Forums telling people what is and isn't normal
Goes both ways. Also homoshit is at least a biological thing. Transshit revolves around gendershit, which is more a societal thing.
Eh, wear what you want. Just don't go around telling people you're a girl.
That's not helping them, that's further reaffirming their delusion that they are the opposite sex than they were born.
I'd be hard pressed to call it even somewhat effective. HRT has been shown to have negative effects on kids, with feelings of everyone growing up around them, not experiencing attraction to others, and more. And SRS as a whole is horrible. Hear about the Alzheimer dude who forgot he was a tranny and freaked out about his dick being gone?

>(You)
>is a tranny
>hates yourself
fixed

It's pretty rare.

Sure it has nothing to do with how trans people are treated in society and the despair that comes from that.

>comedic movie needs to be 100% no joke and serious about the trans stuff
Beyond retarded , what the user said is not even bad stuff

polchan does. Almost all of other social media is fine with them. I don't care what anyone does as long as they're nice to me, and I got a trans friends whose nice to me.

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Nah. I like my dick. Thanks for your insight though.

I think they'd have said it along with the trans news, but I'd like Rocko to try and date dudes.

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I've always felt like he should. I wouldn't be surprised if he was, at least, bicurious.

The Universe hates Rocko. He would have just as much bad luck with dudes as he does women. In fact the only person the universe hates more than Rocko is Ed.

He could get it on with heffer. Also are Hutchinson and fil still married?

It literally doesn't.
Even Jews had a lower suicide rate in Nazi Germany.

They don't have the guts to do it with the main character

Post-op suicide rates are closer to 11%. There's a pretty marked improvement.

Talking about dysphoria gives me dysphoria. In my daily life I feel absolutely nothing like this, but in these threads and these discussions, its fucking stressful as shit and it honestly makes me reject the whole concept pretty hard. That being said I have one MtF and one FtM coworker and the whole thing is completely effortless, because yeah they DO handle it and none of it is as mentally ill or inconsolable as these Yea Forums or twitter discussions.
And I guess that's the stigma? Maybe I'm not built for it

In OP's screenshot, dumbass

We already know that trans who live comfortably in their new identity, are accepted by those around them, and have strong support structures are far less likely to commit self harm or suicide.

But trannies aren't nice.
100% of them aee both disgusting and obnoxious.
That's why there's so much propaganda being pumped out in a futile attempt to "normalize" them, when one look is all it takes to realize "No, that is not normal".

Time to get off Yea Forums, mon ami.

There's no way trans studies are complete. I just don't accept that the current experiment of transition and support is the be-all-end-all solution to this. There's got to be more.

>100% of them aee both disgusting and obnoxious.
Where do you think you are?

Do you know any in real life? I was surprised to find two functional ones.

I've known nice ones and shitty ones. You ever consider that you're just a bigot? Seems more likely than an entire group of people being universally bad.

I honestly think Brianna Wu was controlled opposition and the most damaging individual to the transexual acceptance movement in the modern age

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people aren't caricatures i know /pol/tards who are actual functioning members of society and go about there daily life as such while working hard, i also worked with a /pol/tard who couldn't control his power level at all until he told our manager that he doesn't take orders from women, just because i end up seeing more of the later, especially here, doesn't mean everybody of x thing is the same.

you reminded me that she existed , totally forgoten about her at this point

All the trans ftm (I've only seen ftm) I've met are the kindest people user

>/pol/tard gets mad that cartoon reboot kids won't watch includes a trans character
Don't you have a braindead president to be sucking off?

That's kind of whats scary about genuine bigots. You often never know when you are dealing with one.

I have a slight bias in the fact that I worked with a trans support group, which naturally means that most of the trans people I met were the sort of people that had the wherewithal to join a support group, but I met some of the kindest, gentlest people I've had the pleasure of knowing there. A lot of the support leaders were also older transwomen that had lived through much harsher times and had a resilience to them that they did everything they could to impart on the new generations.

Never truer. Lol

Transbians are autogynophiles 90% of the time.

heres what i think , since they are such a small minority of the population (less than 1%) , the few that act like insane on twitter etc about being trans and all that end up reprensenting the majority of their part of the population to the public eyes

Literally no scientific basis for that. Just the ramblings of one pseudointellectual and his lapdog.

All peoppe on twitter are mentally ill, and like I already said people like Brianna Wu have destroyed the trans reputation online due to their cocktail of other mental illnessness

I love Hisone!!!!!!

That's what happens when most people get their socialization from the webbernets.

The more is is that transshit is a societal issue, focusing on gendershit. It was sort of okay when it was just people with gender dysphoria, (and even then, they should get help to settle into their sex, rather than present as the sex they aren't). But now you have people just deciding "I want to be a boy now" or "I want to be a girl now" and when you say that it doesn't work that way, they scream "BIGOT!" People these days like that are either men trying to push themselves into women-exclusive shit, or fujoshit women. There shouldn't be any transition shit. People gotta learn how to cope with the fact that they can't just become a woman or a man.

It might be something he'd never have considered in the 90s, and now that he's in the 2010s, he'd try it at least once.

Zzzzzzzzzz

id say that another thing that ruined trans reputation and the trans debate would be this :
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money
im pretty sure if that guy didnt do that fucked up experiment , the debate would be easier today , not easy but easier for sure

ITS A FUCKING CARTOOOOOON

What episode is the one where we see Mr. Bighead as handsome before he gets his head stuck in a blender when Heffer is a paperboy?

i personally think that social media was a huge mistake cause it made peoples that are legitimately mentaly ill etc group up with each other and think they are ok etc

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You'll die eventually, do whatever you want. Dress like a girl/boy, fuck your own gender, I don't give a shit.

Exactly. Trans people on twitter represent the community about as accurately as alt-right people on twitter represent conservatives.

Seeing how creepy and entitled transbians act it’s really hard not to believe it’s sexually motivated. Especially when they act like lesbian not being attracted to male genitalia is literal oppression. Also this is the same group that came up with the cotton ceiling. I don’t know...Sorry seems to be a patterns of creeps

And then people try to downplay things like that and it gets called censorship, because really it technically is, and nobody trust's each other

This guy gets it.

Who are you talking about, CWC?

I agree with this.

>and even then, they should get help to settle into their sex, rather than present as the sex they aren't
The problem is, people that are genuinely experiencing dysphoria are doing so not because of a delusion, but because they're accurately recognizing that their brain developed differently from their body. HRT causes anxiety and depression rates to plummet among dysphoric individuals, because the brain's finally getting the chemical responses that it's been expecting for years.

I can understand thinking there needs to be a better means by which to determine whether or not someone is experiencing dysphoria or just confused, but all the current medical practices are born from the fact that transitioning shows a significant improvement in quality of life.

The creepy ones are just the loud ones. Everyone loves to point out the squeaky wheel, rather than the three that work quietly.

anyone know how long the movie is?

Jessica Yaniv
#WaxMyBalls

Trans people denying that biological sex is real and that ladies can have penises is what destroyed their reputation

45 min. and it's a Special, not a Movie

45 min

the problem is the impact twitter have on society , even tought a study showed that like only 20% of the population actively use twitter peoples believe its the majority of peoples thoughts etc

It's always astounded me that people classify trans people as delusional. Like, if you've ever met one, there are no delusions. If anything, they are more keenly aware of the realities of their bodies than anyone else on the planet, especially if they experience dysphoria.

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I don't think many trans people actually believe that. Just that there is a difference between biological sex, gender identity, gender presentation, and social roles.

>transitioning shows a significant improvement in quality of life
In what world? I've seen so much evidence to the contrary. It's just buried under all the bullshit that TRAs spew. Suicidal rates actually go up in the long term for people who go under SRS. Also, gay people's brains also develop differently from their bodies, specifically in that they are structured like that of the opposite sex. Which is what I *believe* is being mistakenly believed as transshit evidence.

Boys to me when I was a kid: "Haha! You're a big sissy! You're not a real boy! You're a girl! Hahaha!"

Men to me now, as a trans adult: "You're not a woman, and never will be. No matter how feminine you are or dress, you'll always be a man."

Wtf. What a ripoff.

Their brain developed different than their body. That sounds so fake, unless they’re intersex there’s no evidence that a man can just have a perfectly normal male body but a girly brain!! It’s just a dismorphia

All the brain scans done with trans people were after they were taking hormones. The body doesn’t just randomly assign a gendered brain to you at birth.

There have been no changes in the suicide rates with trans people, doctors are selling trannies a dream.

just finished it, was good

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I was up at 6am two days ago, and this was the first thing they showed on CN.
It was "Stevonnie" doing a photoshoot, then checked his twitter then whined how toxic the internet is.
It was a "internet safety" advertisement by CN.

It's because twitter and overeager 'allies' as well as tumblr types think it's activism to make demands and be inconsolable on other people's behalf.

You’re just a sissy boy, own it

Twitter legitimately helped a president get elected. And I'm not saying that as some meme kind of, "/pol/ got Trump in the White House!". I'm saying if it was not for Twitter being a viable platform where Trump was allowed to post his thoughts unaltered, he would have been forced to have everything he said 100% filtered through the biased media who are known for editing footage, taking quotes out of context, and play favorites. They absolutely despised Trump, if those outlets were the only way of him communicating to the public, he would've had a much higher chance of losing.

Is it pandery? Or is it just classic rocko

Well I hope you didn't do it for their acceptance

This is basically the truth. I am a guy and I prefer to wear a skirt but if I do so in today's society people will assume I am transsexual because that is what is in the public consciousness right now. It's a bit irritating but better than things used to be I suppose. I support trans people but the trans "movement" as a whole isn't very appealing to me.

Why not?

>doctors are selling trannies a dream.
Creepy. Wanna know how I know you're a delusional freak? Either way, check em: journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885

Let's boil down what you just said.
>People who can be what they want to be, and are accepted and supported for who they are, have less suicidal thoughts than those who don't.

Wouldn't normal healthy people benefit from these things too and doesn't normal healthy people struggle with these things too?

Nigga, shut up. Stop acting like trannies are some saintly beings. I’ve seen enough screeching troons to know they’re mentally unstable. stop feeding everyone this horse shit that their lol normal folks like you and me

Yup. Everyone struggles with those things to varying degrees. Some just do so more than others.

>Suicidal rates actually go up in the long term for people who go under SRS.
See, that's a great example for you to have brought up because that's a very well known misunderstanding of the data. So, basically, the paper you're referencing here showed that, compared to base population, people who had undergone SRS were shown to have a higher suicide rate in a longterm study.

So, the meme read is that "SRS makes you more suicidal". The problem with that read is that the suicide rate is being compared to base population, which is 4%. The post-op suicide rate concluded by the paper was just under 11%. As you can probably tell, 11 is higher than 4, so yes, the suicide rates are still high compared to general pop. However, I'm also sure you've heard the oft mentioned overall 40% suicide rate for gender nonconforming individuals, which paints a drop down to 11% in a very different light.

classic rocko, the only pandering ish part was where ralph comes out so to speak, n heffers only response is "WOOOW AWESOME"
besides that its kinda just goof

Gender is a social construct, not physical. Fucking dumbass.

you ever consider that you've been fed thousands of screenshots and it's built up a biased stereotype that you now apply to anything that is x.

Was it on the internet you saw these people?

I don't think they are saints. Some are good, some are shitty, just like everyone else.

There is the biological aspect however

This.

>Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.

This paper doesn't consider those who identify as Trans, but don't transition. And it concludes that greater physiological care needs to be taken after SRS and hormone therapy.

Yeah, I'm not going to believe Yea Forums on this. You guys said nu-thundercats was good when it came it too.

Who the fuck is "You guys"? Been on this board over a decade and I'd never.

Notice we haven't seen a peep about Roar since it was initially announced

They will never acknowledge that the vast vast vast majority of all gender dysphoria is treated naturally with patience as a phase. Anyone who has had feelings like this or worried about it, and then got over it, has successfully treated gender dysphoria.

What's your proof user

>All the brain scans done with trans people were after they were taking hormones.
That's actually not true at all. They've done studies like analyzing brain activity on young male-identifying trans boys that had yet to take any sort of hormones during spatial reasoning tasks that have consistently been shown to prompt different neural activation responses in men and women. Similarly, they've tried pheromone responses on both young, pre-transition ftms and mtfs and shown their brain activity to be within the expectation for their identified gender. Also, most of the affected brain structures are ones that have been shown to not be affected by hormone balance.

It's a conceptual criticism of the way we make statistics. You don't agree that somebody who has a month where they worry they should have been born female, but then who learn something about themselves and life and move forward without having to identify as a female, would be considered someone who has overcome dysphoria?

pretty sure he's talking about 11 t cats

Expected behavior and social roles associated with genders are a social construct. Identifying with a gender has strong evidence for being biological.

Yeah but temporary dysphoria is different from persistent gender dysphoria from kid age onward

That's classical, anyway. Nowadays you can be a 14 year old and transition before you can finish developing fully. That's what I'm against.

Older trans people can do whatever they want since they're adults. Doesn't mean they'll pass very well.

"Gender' was made up by psychologist John Money in the 1950's and is responsible for convincing the Reimers to go ahead and cut of the rest of their sons cock after a botched circumscion, create a vagina and raise him as a girl.
He then had therapy sessions with their 2 sons (one being the botched cock girl one) in which he had them do sexual things and took photographs of them naked.

Because of all this confusions and lies, he blew his fucking head off.

Go back to tumblr, you cock sucking faggot

Hm. I'll give you that. Even still, SRSshit is bad all around. Mutilating your body like that should never be considered an option. It's like allowing someone to replace an arm with a leg because it gives them dysphoria. Like, what's the difference there?

I just hope we can remind people going through phases and regular puberty that they can be comfortable navigating those feelings without being drawn towards surgery and transition. There really are people who will try to catch kids in a phase like that and draw them in for life.

If it's something that can be overcome with a change of perspective, it wasn't dysphoria. Research makes a very strong case for dysphoria to be rooted in a physical condition of the brain. It's like people who were sad about something saying they beat depression by just not being sad anymore, when depression is a neurotransmitter deficiency that isn't solved with a simple "chin up, lad".

There are people who are "transabled" who feel compelled to cut off their healthy limbs

Or kids do it to themselves and effectively castrate themselves.

I don't get adults in their 20s and 30s who do it nowadays. I doubt they even had the vocabulary for their feelings before the 2010s.

he's not trans, he just wants lib's bucks

That's called "sex", user. Gender is a social construct through and through, and there's a reason the words for "biological sex" and "gender" are different.

Terms like 'dysphoria' are purely diagnostic and designed to prescribe treatment in an evolving field that admits it doesn't have total mastery over the human psychology it attempts to treat

That's what I mean, I just refer exclusively to the male or female sex organs unless requested otherwise

Yet we have people who change their birth certificate to reflect their gender transition.

Then why do we need the gender parade? Is it all because gay marriage was ratified and they decided the fight wasn't over?

You don't need pills to be a homosexual.

I agree we don't need a gender parade, all that is just an overreaction to too much evangelism in the last generation. I think it's ridiculous and pathetic and the healthiest people get over it rather than revolving their life around doing what they assume would offend their old priest

Where, and how?

SRS is in a complicated spot. It's surgeons doing the best they can with very limited tools comparatively. It's something that should ideally be used only in the most extreme dysphoria cases, and not something that should be expected as the default endgoal of transitioning, until a better procedure is possible. If the difference is between knowing for certain that a person is going to be miserable and very probably end their life if they don't undergo SRS and having even a slim chance that they'll be happy with their life after the operation, then the doctors consider it their duty to roll those dice. However, there's a significant drop in depression and anxiety shown from just HRT and assuming the social role of their identified gender, so the bulk of quality of life improvements can be accomplished without SRS.

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>There are people who are "transabled" who feel compelled to cut off their healthy limbs
And those people need help, just like transgenders need help. Wanting to mutilate your body has never been natural, and the fact that people are being given that option is appalling.
>Yet we have people who change their birth certificate to reflect their gender transition.
What kind of retort is that supposed to be? The people who do that are retarded. You can change the shit on paper, but you're never going to be able to change the fact that biologically, you are a male or female. Chromosomes, and all that.

is it actually any higher quality or just upscaled from 480 with filters like avatar

But what about the trans people who don't take HRT and don't get surgery and yet demand the entire litany of rights of a woman or a man?

Easier said than done to "get over it" for the strongly dysphoric.

???

What's the difference between people who want to cut off their arms and those who want to cut off their dick/balls or breasts?

I was emphasizing how their gender identity apparently overrides their birth sex on the record, which is ridiculous.

If the body and the brain are truly in conflict with gender dysphoria, then which matters more?

The thing is, how many people would you say you've interacted with on a chromosomal level? You don't need to be able to change chromosomes to live as the opposite sex societally in most regards other than reproducing.

>But what about the trans people who don't take HRT and don't get surgery and yet demand the entire litany of rights of a woman or a man?
I think they have the right to have their dysphoria acknowledged if they are experiencing it, but they're being unreasonable to expect people to accept them unquestioningly. If you can throw someone out of a store for not wearing a shirt or shoes, you'd have to be naive to think presentation doesn't count for anything.

At that point I wonder if it's actual dysphoria or if it's just crippling narcissism projected onto the world in the form of an extended psychotic episode.

If these people don't even bother to pass then why should I give them the validation they want?

How do you know you’re supposed to be a girl if you’ve never been one. Like what are you basing this feeling off of.

How? It's not supposed to be out yet. Megalink?

>It's something that should ideally be used only in the most extreme dysphoria cases, and not something that should be expected as the default endgoal of transitioning
This.
>until a better procedure is possible.
Not this.
>However, there's a significant drop in depression and anxiety shown from just HRT and assuming the social role of their identified gender
Yeah, but then you just have crossdressers in the street, yelling "lesbians should fuck me even though I have a dick!" Like, no. HRT shouldn't be an option except in the most extreme dysphoria cases, just like SRS. It, alongside puberty blockers, should not be recommended to literal children, especially not before they even hit puberty cause that's when those kids are like 10. People with gender dysphoria need help, and need to come to terms with their bodies.
>What's the difference between people who want to cut off their arms and those who want to cut off their dick/balls or breasts?
That's what I'm trying to say! There is no difference. Both people need help. They need to go to therapy, or something, and get professional help, instead of being enabled.
>The thing is, how many people would you say you've interacted with on a chromosomal level? You don't need to be able to change chromosomes to live as the opposite sex societally in most regards other than reproducing.
You can't live as the opposite sex societally. If people know you're trans, then in the case that you're a TiM, and open about it, people are going to know you were once a guy, lesbians won't be into you, and might even be wary of you, and a whole lot of people are still going to treat you the same way they would treat a guy. You really can't socially live as the opposite sex. This isn't even going into the whole fact that sex revolves around biology, and not social shit like gender does.

Being socialized as a boy and never feeling like it was right for you, wanting to do girl things or wear girl clothes

>What's the difference between people who want to cut off their arms and those who want to cut off their dick/balls or breasts?
There's no healthy brain pattern for "Person but with only one arm". There's some history, although not conclusive, tracing cases of BIID to brain damage, tumors, and malformations of the parietal lobes. Basically, it can often be considered to be the product of a damaged brain, rather than a brain that is, by all standards, healthy aside from being mismatched with the head it's in.

Define "head". Do you mean "body" ?

I thought I read somewhere that in the 70s they tried to socialize trans people as their birth gender and it didn't work at all, leading to the current procedures of lived experience, etc.

>Basically, it can often be considered to be the product of a damaged brain, rather than a brain that is, by all standards, healthy aside from being mismatched with the head it's in.
If there's no healthy brain pattern for "person with only one arm", why should people believe there's any healthy brain pattern for "person but without cock and balls"?
>in the 70s they tried to socialize trans people as their birth gender and it didn't work at all
Well, I don't know about all that, user. You're going to have to sauce me on that one. But I can tell you it's obvious why it didn't work because if they're just going straight to the socialization shit, (which is what this gender dysphoria shit revolves around, if you haven't forgotten), without actually trying to resolve why the person has issues with their birth gender, then it has no chance of succeeding.

Leave Rachel out of this shit

Not really, it's judging them by the same criteria I use to judge any other woman: if they don't want my dick they're worthless to me.

>why should people believe there's any healthy brain pattern for "person but without cock and balls"?

In theory it makes them feel comfortable that the source of their dysphoria is gone. Thus their brains are without distress as their bodies match how they feel.

Do you subscribe to the idea that a non accepting society is the reason for trans suicides being so high?

>until a better procedure is possible.
>Not this

I mean, imagine if medical science advanced to the point that you could have stem cells grow a perfectly functioning organ and transplant it seamlessly into the body. There's no reason not to at that point.

>Yeah, but then you just have crossdressers in the street, yelling "lesbians should fuck me even though I have a dick!" Like, no. HRT shouldn't be an option except in the most extreme dysphoria cases, just like SRS. It, alongside puberty blockers, should not be recommended to literal children, especially not before they even hit puberty cause that's when those kids are like 10. People with gender dysphoria need help, and need to come to terms with their bodies.
I've been choosing to assume we're talking about people actually experiencing dysphoria and not what you might call "trenders". The help is HRT. The tremendous difference in suicide rates, and instances of depression and anxiety pre and post HRT shows that the best chance of attaining a reasonable quality of life with our current medical understanding is HRT.

>You can't live as the opposite sex societally. If people know you're trans, then in the case that you're a TiM, and open about it, people are going to know you were once a guy, lesbians won't be into you, and might even be wary of you, and a whole lot of people are still going to treat you the same way they would treat a guy. You really can't socially live as the opposite sex. This isn't even going into the whole fact that sex revolves around biology, and not social shit like gender does.
That really depends a lot on the people you interact with and, bluntly, how well you pass. In my experience, people respond pretty instinctively. If their perception of you in the moment is that you're female, that's more important to them than your biological sex. People are swayed a lot more by what they're experiencing than by snippets of information.

Fuck your mom often?

>Define "head". Do you mean "body" ?
Yes, I was trying to make a cheeky play on words.

>"person but without cock and balls"?
It's typically called a "woman", but I understand the new age gender stuff means that's not true in every case. It's not like the just take a cleaver to it and dump the remains in the trash. They attempt to preserve nerve function as best as possible. In this case, I've already admitted to my skepticism of seeing it as a necessity, since it's not something that seemingly affects the problem being experienced at the brain chemistry level.

How do you distinguish between a trender and an actually dysphoric person? There are guides online on how to doctor shop and what to say to get HRT prescribed.

>If their perception of you in the moment is that you're female, that's more important to them than your biological sex.

Which becomes a problem when you get to the bedroom.

Women are not just neutered men, user.

Hey eurotrash, where's the links already? Stop hogging it all to yourself!

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Can we PLEASE talk about cartoons now?

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>Do you subscribe to the idea that a non accepting society is the reason for trans suicides being so high?
Course it doesn't help the delusional fucks any, but first and foremost it's the mentalshit (gender dysphoria) and the SRSshit. And also
>In theory it makes them feel comfortable that the source of their dysphoria is gone. Thus their brains are without distress as their bodies match how they feel. Yeah, so would cutting off a "transabled" person's arm, but you don't see anyone saying that's okay, now do you? These things are one and the same. Mental illnesses that people need to cope with.
>I mean, imagine if medical science advanced to the point that you could have stem cells grow a perfectly functioning organ and transplant it seamlessly into the body. There's no reason not to at that point.
Except that that's not how you help these people? Except for in severe circumstances? Like I said, only people who are experiencing the most severe cases of gender dysphoria should be allowed to have this shit.
>The tremendous difference in suicide rates, and instances of depression and anxiety pre and post HRT shows that the best chance of attaining a reasonable quality of life with our current medical understanding is HRT.
Like I said, HRT should only be used in the most severe cases of gender dysphoria, and shouldn't be used for everyone who has it. If there are alternatives to these things, they should be provided.
>people respond pretty instinctively. If their perception of you in the moment is that you're female, that's more important to them than your biological sex. People are swayed a lot more by what they're experiencing than by snippets of information.
Like said, it's a problem in the bedroom, also, of course people are going to treat you like how they perceive you, and yes people are more emotion based than fact based, but does that mean we should just rely on their emotion instead of the facts? That's just stupid.

^This.

Honestly I knew they were gonna pull something that went in the vein of LGBTQ+ but I didn't think it'd be a BIG PLOT POINT in the movie or whatever the fuck this is.

Like maybe just some chicks kissing in the background or a passing statement.

Honestly it feels so forced and for brownie points. This was a show about farts and masturbation jokes and was hardly ever something serious or political. I mean unless you count that environmental episode.

Watch this movie not even really be about Rocko or Heffer or Filbert -they will be side-characters to the Bighead drama and there to offer rando unsolicited advice until Mr.Bighead 'gets with the program'.

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user, this is Yea Forums. You know we're not allowed to do that.

>How do you distinguish between a trender and an actually dysphoric person? There are guides online on how to doctor shop and what to say to get HRT prescribed.
I can't say I have a perfect answer for that. I've been arguing less from a practical position of weeding out who is or is not, and more from a focus on situations where it's the correct treatment for someone suffering from a physical condition. I can acknowledge the necessity for a concern in false diagnosis, but that's more an issue to raise with diagnosis practices than with the actual procedure of transitioning.

>Which becomes a problem when you get to the bedroom.
You say that, but, and it pains me slightly to fall back on this as an example, the major perception of transgender porn stars is as "chicks with dicks", even when they have their genitals on full display. Studies into attraction towards transgender individuals pretty consistently shows that men who would otherwise consider themselves heterosexual perceive transwomen largely indistinguishably from women, with the genitalia being as relevant as any other feature. So, in that instance, it's once again largely reliant on the specific person that you have in the bedroom.

Correct, men are just overdeveloped women.
Joking aside, the point is that in cases of dysphoria the brain is expecting certain responses and not getting them. The ultimate expression of this, theoretically, is not being able to cope at all with having a masculine sex organ, making male arousal or stimulation, and especially penetration, uncomfortable. There is obviously a difference in sensation between having a penis or neovagina stimulated, and that can apparently affect how the brain responds enough that it is beneficial in some cases, but I don't have the utmost confidence in it.

Still waiting for it to come out.

>tfw this years the first succesful womb transplant was done in my country
>Suddenly after it was made public the medical team responsible started getting calls from men to put wombs in them
Humans need to die.

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>This was a show about farts and masturbation jokes and was hardly ever something serious or political.
Not inherently true. This show was always about social shit, but it was always done in a coy way, instead of on the nose. See: clown episode. When you tackle this shit on the nose like this, you lose so much of the comedic value, and you have to be so much more careful, cause the group you're commenting on is going to end up butthurt as shit. I agree with hotdoganon, who said it would have been better if Ralph wore a hot dog suit and wanted to be called Frank. Instead of being pandering shit, it would have been funny, and there would be plausible deniability of whether or not it was intended to be a trans allegory. Also, since when was LGB shit political? Yeesh.

nope,bitching and moaning about politics and off topic bullshit are all you can expect from this thread, also nothing will be done about it because, fuck you that's why.

>Humans need to die.
This. Any other sapient species would call us fucking insane.

Aw happy birthday user

Yeah, Rocko was always pretty political. A better question is WHY LGBT things need to be "political"

Source?

Damn that’s a comfy gif.

>does that mean we should just rely on their emotion instead of the facts? That's just stupid.

There are a lot of facts to consider besides just original birth sex. And one of those is the fact that it's becoming more societally accepted to acknowledge someone's gender identity. You can argue that it's wrong, but social conventions are, naturally, defined by society. The idea of having gendered pronouns isn't an immutable law, so the case for how to handle what pronouns to use for someone is similarly mutable.

>Which becomes a problem when you get to the bedroom.
Why do you assume that every trans person you meet will be having sex with you at some point?

I just don't understand why they made it a central plot. Rocko's had some messages every now and again but at least it mostly used metaphors. Just straight up making a special about a character coming out as trans is pandering as fuck.

You haven't seen the movie. This is a minor inclusion

Is it central to the plot?

What data? You're basically bringing up your own anecdotes here.

Well I chuckled

I wonder if Murray thought, "people just now are realizing the Closet Clown thing is a metaphor for gayness, I don't want them to wait to get the message this time"

You know what? I honestly can't tell you, user.
But I can tell *you* that society a shit. The mass majority that defines society has always been retarded, and makes retarded choices. And see, this pronouns shit is retarded too. Cause "gendered" pronouns is starting to not be a thing either, cause now you got "he/him lesbians". Pronouns should be dictated by sex, not by "gender identity", whatever that means these days.

Because I'm that good at what I do. *wink*

I'm sure there are things you comfortably do every day that would have people from antiquity spit on your face. You're free to have your convictions, but you have to acknowledge that it's pretty egotistical to assume your the arbitrator of how things really should be and that, no, it's everyone else that's wrong.

Well shit, now you have me intrigued.

>". Pronouns should be dictated by sex, not by "gender identity"

Pronouns are social, not scientific. There's no reason to base them on chromosomal sex.

I'm so glad I commented this yesterday in pol.

I'm not principal Skinner-ing here, bro. Not everyone is wrong, but a lot of people are, in my opinion. I'm not assuming I'm the arbitrator, cause that would also be assuming that anyone actually gave a shit about what I say. We're on the internet, bro.
I mean, I guess. That sounds pretty fair. But, you'd think that even without gendershit, you'd still refer to a male person as a he.

Well,t he whole point of being transgender is to socialize as their gender identity, including pronouns.

To the people with the special. Is Rachel the main plot?

Her being trans isn’t a major plot point but she’s not an insignificant character

RELEASE THE DAMN THING.

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Is Hutchinson still married to Fil?

MEGA when?

Rocko Is upset that the fatheads got cancelled and there are no new episodes... But the fatheads were cancelled in the 90s and replaced with whacky deli... This is what made no sense to me but whatever

The original show had shit continuity anyway.

Why is it out in the UK first? That isn't how releases are supposed to work. It's supposed to be at the same moment for everyone but not the same hour for every timezone, like OP's times.

Space lag made him retarded

when the brits decide to share

Come on you limey sons of bitches. Share!

100% this

>most trans people I've met are chill about it
Great, wish the majority were like that.

Maybe someday kilts will become trendy

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No fucking way, they made ralph trans?

Literally days ago we joked that (((Netflix))) was gonna make someone gay, trans or obviously black. We all laughed.

This isn't funny anymore guys.

Netflix didn't do it. This wasn't supposed to be on Netflix originally. Joe is a heavy leftist.

>all these blogposts by LGBT
jesus fucking christ

he back

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We've known there was gonna be an LGBT character for almost 2 years. We just didn't know who

So I have to just sit here farting around for the next 4 hours? The fuck am I supposed to do while waiting?

If Ralph left to the desert for his self discovery thing and hasn't been back since, and the gang find him there as a woman, what's with the breasts? Is he stuffing with rocks?

Maybe he got HRT in the desert

>suggested they tweak the design and how the character was introduced
Joe shouldn't have brought GLAAD in at all.

Kinda a moot point now.

Signalboosting all it's got (Rocko isn't as popular as Football Head or Zim)

I see. If this trans story is all Joe, I am more okay with it, but still. A topic like that, in this political environment is just not a good move. I just wanted the zanyness of the original series, not a lecture on tolerance, because I highly doubt that topic is gonna be oozing with jokes.

He was actually worried Nick wouldn't let him do it. And when they brought in GLAAD, he was worried they'd water it down. Apparently, they liked what he already had though.

>referring to his crisis for wacky deli and I have no son as the same kind of identity crisis as literally being trans
No matter what shit you bring up from the past this is still fairly out of left field.

You ever have a friend or loved one transition? Nothing can prepare you for it.

Damn it dude that's not what I fucking meant and you know it.

you havent even seen it yet

Nothing he said is out of line in our current situation. People like you try to pretend discussing what we know and what's been told to us is wrong.

My point is, it's kind of a hard thing to foreshadow without an in depth character study. This new plot follows pretty well with what little we know about Ralph.

The people who spout "he plays with Barbies, he's a girl" or "she likes sports, she's a boy" do more to reinforce gender stereotypes than anything

So I guess Ed literally now has no Son.

there's nothing to suggest the movie will contain a "lecture on tolerance"

Winds of change

>The idea of having gendered pronouns isn't an immutable law, so the case for how to handle what pronouns to use for someone is similarly mutable.

Which is why it's stupid to say that people *should* use pronouns based on someone's imagined identity.

You can base pronouns on clear, objective sex, or you can base them on fuzzy vague identity if you want, but either way it's your choice. You can use pronouns how you want, but as the other user said, there's no reason everyone *should* base pronouns on emotions instead of facts.

It's the same as anything else based on emotional belief. You can believe in a white-bearded old God if you want, but you're just an ass if you think that's the right way that people in general should follow.

MEGA WHEN

Trans topics nowadays are purely lecturing.
The point is, you know damn well they're not gonna poke fun at it like how south park did bruce jenner.

Reminder someone at GLAAD laughed at that joke and was fired a week later.

People are so eager to have a special kid these days. Fucks sake, when I was a little kid I used to play with Barbies as substitutes because they didn't make action figures for Sailor Moon. I thank God every day I wasn't born nowadays or I'd have run a very real risk of parents chopping my dick off and pumping me full of sterilization chemicals so they could show off how tolerant they are to twitter

They way South Park did was mean spirited and ugly. And worst of all, it wasn't funny. That whle season was tragically unfunny.

>It's just our society sorting itself out on the way to becoming truly non-gendered.

You're assuming that society is following some destiny towards improvements; we call that the Whiggish view of history.

The trends you're talking about aren't part of a step forward, they're just the same old political hypocrisy. There have been people throughout history who rolled their eyes at uptight gender labels, but they've always been in the minority because those labels are a useful tool for telling people how to behave and think.

Your opinion means a lot.

Thank you, I know.

>Thread is about to die
>Britbongs haven't shared yet
ONE REVOLUTIONARY WAR CLEARLY WASNT ENOUGH.

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>there's no reason everyone *should* base pronouns on emotions instead of facts.

Pronouns belong to the social world of language. If you insist on using them in a way contrary to what is socially acceptable, or socially understood, you set yourself up for being misunderstood.

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the level of cross boarding fucktards who don't know basic shit about production coming out of the wood works for this really activates the old noggin.

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Pretty sure most people are in agreement that the last few seasons have been pretty sub par. But hey, that's just my opinion. There, I said opinion, are you happy?

That's odd. Apparently, the asian Netflix somehow released the whole thing early as of 12mn, tho I have no interest to watch it.

Isn't it suppose to release all together worldwide?

No way. Sauce?

That season was actually hilarious. south park did something refreshing by having continuity and tackling SJWs. The season after it sucked.

Anyways, I'm all for gay rights. But trans people...jesus christ. That's a whole different beast I try to avoid.

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We're going to need a new thread before this drops

>stop being mean to trannies
>they cut their dick off for acceptance
No user, they and you deserve nothing but laughter. The kind of laughter that lasts long after you leave this mortal coil.

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Alex Jones Edition.

no edition, one like this OP

why bother it's just going to be 500 posts of political bitching again.

Here

You can do that after it airs
It should be normal stuff until it does drops
Plus someone seems to have done it already lel

I don't care if you make fun of trannies, as long as it's funny.

Because there's an actual special to discuss outside that
Not like no one would bring up this special again if we made this the last thread

Why is it even political? Why is gender and sexuality political?

Because some people think those genders and sexualities should be belittled or destroyed, and other people don't, so there's two sides to the debate

Well, that's gay.

anyone got a link to download it

>belittled or destroyed
>others dont
Spoken like a true faggot.

What's with the rat baby, looks like it'd be voiced by Psychicpebbles

But doing that'd immediatly make you think of the Clown episode. No point on re-doing soemthing you already did so might as well just do it the normal way this time.

you've made this exact same post in the last 2 rocko threads with the exact same dumb meme you shilling little dipshit

>Lets shoehorn Trannies to get more queer baiting views! five stars!

fucking marketing team.

>shoehorn
You haven't even seen it.

>rocko in 16:9
Absolutely soulless. Even ignoring the tranny shit this is a total garbage fire.

>Believing or giving the time of day to an obnoxious minority of a minority

The aspect ratio? It would be dumb not to match it to modern sets

Is it out on netflix now?

>LGBT movies'

Gotta be PROGRESSIVE! GOTTA GET THAT 5 STARS SOMEHOW!

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Same. Jfc I watched rainbow brite and had some of the toys as a kid.

Netflarcks does that for pretty much any movie with an LGBT character in the main cast.

This was an informative thread. Changed my position on something I knew nothing about.

Rent free, always and forever cuck.

>Rent free, always and forever cuck.

Huh?

He is describing himself.

What kind of dude would he even date? I can’t imagine his “type”

Probably no one big and musclebound enough to manhandle him, he'd probably go for guys around his height, or scrawny guys of normal height

Everyone on the internet is a faggot and deserves to be laughed at you mean. Stop limiting yourself.

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Nah, I think he'd have crushes on people similar to him, like that mail carrier girl, shy, a bit quiet, not much bigger than him or similar size. But like the hippo woman, he'd probably have a big (literal) bear be super into him or some muscle bound, masc furry wetdream like a lion chasing after him.

That sexy tiger guy Hutch went to high school with.

>5 year old son plays with dolls
>asks if he can wear dresses
>IT'S DICK CHOPPIN TIME
>revs up chainsaw

Filburt and Heffer would also try to make him over like some queer eye hipster type for his date.

Or maybe with the help of the Chameleon brothers. There would be a grindr joke somewhere in there. Maybe something about men literally going to get their meat grinded.

See? This is how you make funny, applicable LGBT humor. It's really not that hard.

Again, why Ralph, and not pic related?

>The camera pans over to the vegetarian section
>ALRIGHT FELLAS, WHO'S READY FOR THE SALAD TOSSING COMPETITION?

A literal & figurative bear persuing Rocky relentlessly on Grindr would make a great episode

*ROCKO fuck

wish my fiance had this philosophy but I guess the fucking joke's on me haha. fuck my life.

never said i was n but thats what peoples do these days , they see one tweet by some nobody with like 3 followers and suddently this is the general thinking

>Someone went on not only the Show's Wikipedia page, but also went to the Rocko wiki and removed all mention of Ralph ever being male
Amazing

I hate this fey earth.

Any mega in Latino?

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Watching the Rocko wiki has been fun the last few days

Either they have some filters going on with it or the stationary backgrounds are actually traditionally drawn and not digital. They look like they were scanned in based on the quality of the inks and look like markers were used for color. Character animation is obviously digital though.

Yeah ok bud. HES the cuck keep coping

The way I see it is this, You can do whatever you want with your life and I don't care as long as it doesn't prevent me from doing what I want with my life and as long as you aren't annoying about it I won't bother you.
But I do have to question that if society at large seems to believe that people under the age of 18 cannot....
*Seek employment
*Join the military
*Smoke
*Drink
*Rent an apartment
*Have sex
*Be photgraphed/filmed nude or during sexual acts
*Sign a contract
*Have elective surgery without an adult's permission
*Drive a motorcycle
*Have their own insurance plan
*Buy a gun
*Leave the country without their parent's permission
Then how exactly can such a person come to the informed decision that they are living as the wrong gender and begin transitioning regardless of parental consent?

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What I want is this
Ralph:" I go by Rachel now"
Rocko:" Oh, that's cool I guess....So did Wacky Deli ever get renewed for a second season?"
Extreme close up of Rachel's disgusted looking face
Door slams in Rocko's face
Rocko:" Um Ralp...I mean Rachel?, are you there? What happened with Wacky Deli?"
Sound of tires screeching in the background

The issue with Motion from what I recall was that one dude basically tried to take over the whole project and insisted that he was the sole creator/owner of the character and could personally decide what was/ was not canon but at the same time kept asking for everyone else to make everything for him.
It seemed like that soured most people on the whole thing.

/pol/niggers who are insecure and afraid constantly that LGTB characters exist in fiction are even more annoying than the actual trannies tbqh.

Kek, seriously go back to your fucking containment zone already. It's getting sad and predictable at this point

It was aight. A little long tho.

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Of all of the okay shows from the 90s/early 2000s Rockos Modern Life was never a show people wanted to see a revival on.

I enjoyed the unexpected reference it got in Camp Lazlo but even then there was never a dedicated push to reboot it. Hey Arnold, Danny Phantom, and of course KND people still care about, but Rocko?

The show itself was ok, Ralph was a literally who character so him becoming Rachel didn't mean shit. The whole "CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE" beating the audience over the head message was grating.

Gender roles are natural expressions of a sex’s innate disposition. Also Rocko.

Yeah, just another episode of Rocko kinda of. I liked it better in my memories of SNICK and otherwise. My 87 brain is old and mushy now though so it’s literally nostalgia. Honestly watching it makes me feel like a migraine is coming on. Don’t care about the trans stuff in it one way or another, cool, whatever.

>who cares
Obvious people do care. Why expose children to sexuality at all before they are ready? What is the rating of this special?

>To me, the big rise in people feeling like they have gender confusion is because groups have been aggressive in enforcing stereotypes and saying, "If you don't follow this, you're something else".
This is the biggest issue facing modern society. Especially if we have parents trying to figure out if their kid is gender fluid, gay, or transsexual before they even can grow up through life experiencing anything themselves. Instead, parents now think they have to nurture their kid's sexuality instead of letting them have to develop it or figure it out on their own.

Do they exist? Sure. Do they need to exist? Why the fuck do I need to know about the sexual preferences and fetishes of anthropomorphic frog people in a comedy slapstick cartoon?

All of this shit is just bizarre, trendy, and will probably be looked back upon in an unflattering manner like all the after school don't do drugs/smoke cigarettes PSAs inserted into cartoons completely ungrounded in reality during the 90s.

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>All of this shit is just bizarre, trendy, and will probably be looked back upon in an unflattering manner like all the after school don't do drugs/smoke cigarettes PSAs inserted into cartoons completely ungrounded in reality during the 90s.
Just like the cringe girl power revival we've been getting in the last decade? There is always money to be made in outrage culture.

Didn't laugh once. I am incredibly disappointed in how it turned out. Depressingly bad.