Now that the dust has settled, why the fuck didn't Allura and Keith just end up together...

Allura and Keith would have been the blandest couple possible.

I think it was a good choice not to give Keith any romantic end at all.

They are also the canon couple of the original source material. Having them not be together is blasphemous. It's like Lois Lane not getting with Clark Kent

Exactly. And I think that it would be a happy, companionable silence. Totally emotionally satisfying for them, but not necessarily very interesting television, so there's no point in devoting screen-time to something like that.

I think it's worthwhile for subsequent remakes to find ways to be their own distinct entity rather than just retreading the same material over and over again.

I agree, but there is always a fine line that a creator walks when making adaptations. It has to be faithful to the source material to an extent and stand on it own. VLD starts out strong, but shits itself near the end. I'm not sure what was going on behind the scenes but those final two seasons do not add up narratively to the first 6

Yes, seems like It's easier to find media products in the West where that doesn't happening.

DUDE KEITH IS BORING
DUDE SOKKA LITE IS SO COOL LOOOOL

Let not kid ourselves, there were a lot of discrepancies on a pure plot basis even before the last seasons. The finale just sshines a big light on them.

Because Klance was the endgame, but they chickened out and had to pull out every lame, ridiculously OOC trope possible to stop it.

Phew. One of EPs say that she end up with the Uggo's sister.

If Keith had been confirmed not gay someone would have burned their studio down.

Shiro was just the better girl.

Keith was too autistic to seal the deal, though, so ended up leading a gang of lesbians around space.

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Heck, this answer was for this

>The way they were writing Kieth, he just wasn't the sort of character you could realistically write a romance for.
Sasuke Uchida
Heero Yuy
Saosuke Sagara
Setsuna Seirei
Gray Fullbuster
Vegeta

>in a way that would be interesting in a show like this
*crickets chirp*
Are you serious? Did you see anything romantic subplots even remotely interesting in this show?

>I see him as […]
Are you aware that Keith's a leader, a warrior and an intergalactic hero in a sci-fi opera and not your orthodontist?

>if he didn't get the girl, would have just come across as really sad
Oh, well, if you put it that way... we cannot let our favorite boy to be sad. Fuck the story.

>happy ending together
Leaving aside the question of the HUUUGE difference in average life expectancy between humans and alteans.

Why would you throw gray in there

>Sasuke Uchida
Oh yes, because his romance is so believable

He kind of reminds me of Keith.

At least as much as Alluras feelings for Lance.

Anime and manga are just as guilty about being convoluted. In fact a lot of fanbases will just handwave the stuff that doesn't make sense because it gets in the way of them enjoying something.

I really think the studio was just tired of the harassment that "fans" or antis were throwing at them and got the greenlight from DW to just burn it all down last season. That's why none of the other boys besides Lance and Shiro are shown with anyone. Because Lance was someone's baby boy and Shiro was already outed as gay and we don't want to piss off the LGBTQ we have been trying to bait so give him a happy ending! But not with any of the ships that have been made. It has to be with someone no one has made a ship name for!

written was BY lance shippers

But in terms of romance, especially in the sci do space opera genre the main guy will always get with the heroine. When it doesn't happen, its always some contrived bullshit that weakens the plot, not strengthens it. What did Lance offer Allura plot wise to uplift her and make her stronger? What scenes did they have of character building and chemistry in relation to the story? Barely anything compared to better more plot centric characters like Shiro and Keith.

>who, frankly, if he didn't get the girl, would have just come across as really sad

He could've just ended up with a different girl. Not even just Yea Forums's favorite pick for him either.

a girl who's alive for change

Again, at that point the damage the fans had done was too great and DW just decided no one was gonna be happy

Did anyone else get the feeling Pidge was supposed to have one-sided feelings for him, but they cut that subplot at the last minute? You had her get pissy whenever he hit on Allura or other girls, and when she hears the news about him dating Allura, she seems sad instead of genuinely weirded out.

>when she hears the news about him dating Allura, she seems sad instead of genuinely weirded out.
Yep. There is even a video game that Lance and Pidge were looking forward to playing that has been referenced in various merchandise regarding them. Then the episode comes out and she just gives it up and does look genuinely sad/ offput by Lance being with Allura. Additionally, Keith responds with a "good job" or "good luck"? Its like the last season went full clown world and only a few characters realized it.

As well as they should have. In the age of social media, it appears that the best action is to not engage with your fans.

>it appears that the best action is to not engage with your fans.
I agree with this on the subject of making your own story. If they had adhered to the outline of the show that was done since S1 and told that story instead of having executive meddling get involved because of the popularity of Shiro and the increasing LGBTQ audience, we may not have had the shitty as fuck ended we got. Just tell your own story and keep its integrity, regardless of how the fans react.

>Too aloof and disengaged

There are a lot of shows and stories of similar writing quality that get even those characters to like someone else. All they usually do is pair them with someone who's the complete opposite (ie loud and in your face) to get the other to come out of their shell.

That being said it is a pretty tired trope that can feel forced and I personally think Allura as a character that can not do that for Keith since she's a completely different archetype.

Heero Yuy is not someone I'd have put on a list of viable romance MCs. That whole debacle with Relena was as senseless as trying to drown a fish in water.

>Lance on the other hand was this outgoing, emotive, passionate guy, who, frankly, if he didn't get the girl, would have just come across as really sad. And not in the euphemistic, demeaning sense of the word "sad," either. I mean that watching him would have just been this unhappy experience for the viewer if you cared about him at all.

It's funny and sad that this could also describe Finn

Difference is, Finn was the main character and hero of his show. Lance plays second fiddle to two superior characters Shiro and Keith and yet got the main heroine and the all powerful tragic love scene in the final episode.

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Shiro should impregnate Allura before dying (for real this time) and then Keith can take of his wife's son. Everybody wins. Shiro gets a tragic send-off, leave a kid behind for Allura to remember him and Keith can pretend that kid is Shiro and his

>But throughout the first 6 seasons his relationship with Allura had story driven chemistry
How do you figure? The episode where they run off aside, both were kinda shitty to each other.

When did Allura actually fall in love with Lance? She kind of just goes from being his friend to absolutely smitten with him.

Obsessed gays and fujoshis ruined this show.

Allura x Lance shippers like to say its because he always showed an interest in her and his continued hovering eventually paid off once she was heartbroken by Lotor. I would say she never organically fell in love with Lance, it was just contrived bullshit meant for the sake of having her sacrifice pack that much more of a punch because of how rushed and awkward it all was.

Lance was still sad during and after he got the girl

i know people meme about autism, but i think you could validly read keith as an autist. dude did not get people.

>TFW when you wanted Lance to just have off screen fun with other aliens.

Seriously Lance/allura did not need to happen.

I miss Shallura

>Lance on the other hand was this outgoing, emotive, passionate guy, who, frankly, if he didn't get the girl, would have just come across as really sad.
How so? All of his flirting was inconsequential and never hinted that he held anything more than surface level attraction for her. I could very easily have seen her turning him down, him being a bit sad but then getting over it with Hunk and Pidge and the story moving the fuck on.

As a Lance/Allura shipper I hate how they did it in the show and agree it wasn't necessary.

When they took all the progression of Keith's relationship with Lance and shifted it onto Allura with no buildup. That's why it's uncanny valley-tier shit writing that anyone who'd been paying attention just ends up scratching their head about because it's so senseless.

This. If you actually paid attention to Allura and Keiths character growth together throughout the show, you'd realize the very stark shift that Lance suddenly takes of having "serious" moments with Allura that never previously happened and that seem more like what Keith was supposed to have with her.

Every single of those romances was atrocious, user.

Allura should make him pregnant instead of giving him those weird Altean cutie marks. A piece of cake for her Space Jesus powers, and
Lance the Sad Farmer obviously needs something to distract himself from putting a shotgun in his mouth.

This is the happiness he deserved.

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I'm just a fan of princess/knight romance tropes. Sad that Allura had to settle for the jester just because the head writers are morons

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Princess Shiro wasn't enough for you?

Nope

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An user claimed that a character-type like Keith is not fit for romances.
According to him, only over emotional sissy-boys can be written like a LI for a female lead.
My point is that in mechas and shonen Keithtype of protagonists are pretty common, and it may happen that they're involved, more or less explicitly, in some kind of romantic sub plot. Also it's not unusual that they're object of ladies affections despite their abrupt manners and poor social skills, in fact, those last is used as element of the melodrama or comical intermezzi.

In all candour, I much prefer the interactions between Heero/ Relena, Sousuke/Chidori, Fuu/Ferio, Setsuna/Feldt than the completely childish sappiness of Finn/Bubblegum, Ang/Katarra and so on.
Obviously, it's a matter of personal taste.

>In all candour, I much prefer the interactions between Heero/ Relena, Sousuke/Chidori, Fuu/Ferio, Setsuna/Feldt than the completely childish sappiness of Finn/Bubblegum, Ang/Katarra and so on.
I agree, and also look at the examples you showed. Notice how Finn/bubblegum and Aang/Katara are both western type romances, while the former are eastern. I am not sure what it is about western sensibilities that begs that if the guy is a flirty jokester type in cartoons then that means he is A+ material for the heroine, even at the cost of chemistry and story coherence.

That's just your opinion.

They literally gave the Lotor rivalry and the Allura romance, two things typically associated with Keith, and gave them to Lance.
That's not "they're doing their own thing," so much as it is fanfiction-tier character favoritism.

Why does it smell of fish in this thread

Yep. If they had just adhered to the original source material and stuck to it (whilst adding in minor changes here and there), it would have worked, but no they had to shit the bed.

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2bh I have nothing against flirty characters, I can't see anything wrong with show feelings of attraction for someone, besides, it's fun. However, it's a bit disconcerting that the female characters seem taxable persons not involved in this longingness. Flirting or feeling physical attraction is not allowed at the girls almost as if this would be degrading. If she's the one who starts falling for someone there's no way this is going to end welll, unless she falling for another girl (Korra/Mako/Asami).
Moreover, I don't get how this trope doesn't cause a sort of cognitive dissonance seeing how in US are so insistent with the sexual harassment idea and the - no means no - message.
PS I hope thsi reply isn't offensive to anyone.

All negro imposters must die.

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/pol/ please go and stay go

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I cast you out.

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>Flirting or feeling physical attraction is not allowed at the girls almost as if this would be degrading.
it's not an accident, it's a deliberate thing to screw up relationships as a whole. women are supposed to be the ones showing interest in men, not the other way around.

>women are supposed to be the ones showing interest in men, not the other way around.
How about both parties show mutual attraction like how the real world actually works?

Are you talking about Voltron or GoT?

>women are supposed to be the ones showing interest in men, not the other way
That obviously is not what I wrote.

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This has actually happened to both the series.

It's the principle that if you can make a woman laugh, then you've successfully broken through all her barriers and she'll sleep with you.

>PS I hope thsi reply isn't offensive to anyone.

Calm down, this is Yea Forums. Even /pol/ gets off the hook for things they say. Nobody's going to get offended and those that do are just baiting.

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I wanted Lance to hit on Keith's Hot mom. I love that dumb shit.

is there more of this

I want to be femdomizated by Pidge.

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Atlas>Voltron.

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I wanted Lance Matt Koran and Iverson challenge each other in an arena for her and Kieth in a mad delirium.

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This guy gets it.

dan thas a thicc bih

You make me sick.

Still bums me out remembering all those wasted Shiro clones.

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Keith is too much of a Shiroautist to be with anyone.

This show also did that with Keith killing Sendak instead of Shiro being the one to do it. Instead of the end that is logical and makes sense, Keith comes out of nowhere and does it. Fucking garbage.

>Why did the creators try to reinvent the wheel
Reinventing the wheel is basically what Voltron is about, it's the only reason the classic is a decent show instead of a GoLion.

This. You start to see the flaws, and they're pretty big, as early as season three. Funny how seasons one and two were the most "by numbers" seasons and yet were probably the better ones. Sometimes subverting shit is just stupid.

>Not shiro and ulaz
worst taste

Can someone just tell me, was Lance even really that popular to warrant the relationship with Allura that was supposed to be so damn tragic at the end? He was just the funny character, but otherwise was always on the side playing second fiddle to Shiro and Keith's storylines. What is the reason for shots like this that put emphasis on him when he really didn't contribute as much to the story at all?

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In a better world, Sendak would have had a harem of Shirosluts on his ship.

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He is as insanely popular as he is useless.

Shiro is a wife to every Galra.

I want to live in that world

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An even better world would have a bunch of Sendak clones in it.

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A better version of this show, too.

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Hunk deserved better.

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Such an underrated, yet classic trope pairing. I really love it

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I'd just like to state once again; Shiro's new arm is a fucking tragedy of a design, ugly as sin.

Alteans have shitty aesthetics compared to the Galra.

Look, he got by mostly unscathed. That's more than the rest can usually say

Speaking as a genuine robo-limb fetishist you cannot imagine how fucking disappointed I was