Can someone please explain what is happening?

I think if the timelines exist after Moira's death, things get too complicated considering the story takes part at 4 different time marks of 10th timeline

>TFW The 6th Life is The Juggernaut Bitch! Timeline.

>mfw Chartman makes the Cucks' fantasy of niggered Jean noncanon
>mfw Chartman gives us the Summers Clan Epic in the years to come
>mfw everything Post-AvX gets retconned
Can I get a Based?!

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In Hawkman's new origin when he dies he can reincarnate across space-time so maybe it's similar to that.

Why everyone ignores how 4th timeline is almost identical to the 616?
cringe and bluepilled

Go to bed Rosenberg.

Revised Days of Future Past? Then again, where do Cable & Rachel fit in this? Could their time jumps cause this change?

If he makes Rachel and Cable residents of the 4th universe my brain would explode

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I can see Rachel being from the 4th, while Cable is from the current one, just Pre-Secret Wars.

So why don't/didn't Moria go to Reed, Strange or Stark? The robot problem would quickly go away.

All of the events would be compressed into 10 years regardless. It has only been 14 years since the Fantastic Four formed, and it will always only be 14 years.

She went to DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM in her 6th life. DOOOOOOOOOOOOOM created a machine that stole the powers of all mutants and made him omnipotent, but thrn he lost his powers because "muh hubris" and everyone was killed by Sentinels because it's inevitable.

makes no sense

Yes, but that's Marvel editorial policy for you

Does Chartman have the power to retcon the reign of Benis and retcon turning Bobby gay?

I doubt he'd do that due to the backlash it'd cause, but in theory he could. I'm really getting the feeling that he's going to seriously retcon and turn back the clock.

All those people get killed in dofp.

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>her mind is flung backwards in time to her time in the womb and she lives her life again.
So ... Groundhog Days of Future Past?

>Can someone please explain what is happening?
Shitty writing.

>big name writer big dicks everybody so only his stories should be considered canon
Shocking I know but that's how modern comic writers work. If it helps it would be ignored even faster than they ignored the end of Planet X.

I can buy MOST of those, but did they really expect me to buy it that Sentinels killed the fucking Hulk?

killed in Banner form, its not that hard.

>did they really expect me to buy it that Sentinels killed the fucking Hulk?
Nigger, they had fucking HAWKGUY kill the fucking Hulk!

Basically yea

Doesn't Hulk have this thing where if Banner comes within a second being killed, he immediately becomes Hulk and his healing factor fixes Banner?

I might be misremembering, but wasn't Banner shot right in the head once, and the second the bullet entered the brain, he Hulked out and that saved Banner too?

(Of course, if it did happen, maybe it happened after DOFP was a thing, like Wolverine's ridiculous healing factor power creep. I dunno)

For real? When was this? Got the pages?

>For real?
Totally.

>When was this?
Bendis' Civil War II shitshow.

>Got the pages?
30 seconds on teh googles, senpai:
comicnewbies.com/2016/07/13/hawkeye-kills-bruce-banner-civil-war-ii/

I wonder how they killed Doom and the F4. I'm pretty sure Reed & Victor have toasters that can fight Nimrod.

>Bendis' Civil War II shitshow

Oh. Then I'm prepared to discredit it as bad writing if I have to

>Doesn't Hulk have this thing
Depends on the writer. He's tried jumping off of a cliff and shooting himself in the head and both times she shifted, but here:
He made a pact with Clint to end him and took an arrow to the face. Bam: dead.

Of course this is Big Two Capeshit so that eventually got retconned and now he's literally Immortal.

>Then I'm prepared to discredit it as bad writing if I have to
I mean: you're not WRONG ... but it was a Big Marble Event That WIll Change The Marble Universe For EVAH!!! So most of the damage was allowed to fester for YEARS after that.

Bruce stayed dead for quite a while being replaced by Totally Awesome Hulk ( Cho ) and later Jen ( in her fucked up PTSD not-She-just-Hulk form which is STILL what's being used in Aaron's Avengers currently ).

Have you ever seen the movie groundhog day? It's that, except instead of one day, it's her whole life.

>which is STILL what's being used in Aaron's Avengers currently
Despite the fact that she reverted back to her normal form at the end of the ongoing. The sole reason she's "Hulk" instead of She-Hulk right now is because Aaron wanted to use Banner Hulk but editorial told him no so that Ewing could tell his story.

So Aaron just turned Jen back into Hulk instead.

This revelation is unironically kino now

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Banner had already been depowered when this happened. Also, the arrow he used was given to him by Banner himself. It was a special arrow that shuts down gamma activation to stop Banner from hulking out. It was supposed to be used in a situation where Hulk was going out of control and the only option was to kill him.

Obviously, it didn't matter in the end because of the whole "gamma resurrection" thing.

Dofp sentinels weren't jobbers like the usual ones. 80s Nimrod was very powerful, so were the Morrison mega sentinel and nano sentinels. Current man/machine alliance seems pretty OP.

Idk I know ur memeing but that sounds like something he'd do

He would, but the shit storm from idiots who don't even read the comics or care about Iceman would be huge

Yfw 70 years of X Men continuity and alt timeline X Men continuity are beamed straight into your mind

Wonder what Charles' favorite storylines are?

Moira is actually a Stand user using an immature form of D4C

>Despite the fact that she reverted back to her normal form at the end of the ongoing.
I'd forgotten about that, desu.

I dropped it after the first arc was such a wet fart of wasted potential.

Just makes stupidUglyJen that much more infuriating.

X-Staitx. He would be proud of the way he helped Guy and Venus D.

Based Hickman. Araki was inspired by Shadow King vs Xavier psychic battles. Hickman is tieing it all together.

they shot him into space but told everyone they killed him. how's that

John-Egbert-style timeline-replacing canon fuckery

>There's too many charts in your mind Moira

Its reincarnation with a Groundhog day loop, hows that difficult to understand.

Why didn't Moira just go to Cyclops when he got the Phoenix?

>Onslaught? I become...that?! And who is the Beyonder? And why do I help shoot this "Hulk" into space?

Pre-Secret Wars is life 6, current life isn't Post-Secret Wars.

>The most important revelation has 5 panels
>4 of which are copy pasted

The absolute state of comic

Also filling up the books with charts so less pages for the artists to do. Marvel is showing their desperation.

The Phoenix is too much of a wild card and doesn't give a fuck regarding muties. You're lucky if you get Phoenix-empowered Cyclops, you're fucked if it's Phoenix-controlled Cyclops.

Except, the graph at the end has the Magneto/Xavier split at Year 47. And HoX at Year 52.

Which makes it less than 5 years.And when you factor in things like the 5 month prologue to HoX #1, and time for Xavier to get crippled by Lucifer, set up the school, and go recruit the O5, its more like 4 years. And this squishes not only X-history, but the entire Marvel history to match that.

So now we have shit like characters who have to be born less than 5 years ago, who are obviously older than that.

Its not reincarnation. Its just a Groundhog day loop.

Reincarnation means she's being reborn into different bodies. This is just resetting the timeline.

the answer is Hickman is a hack

More like Hackman, am i right?

marvel is finished!

based

Even if she succeeded in a timeline, she would die and start all over again. This is not the evolution of mankind, it is literally a celestial aberration.

Moira was absolutely right to want to create a cure, at first.

He's literally Gene Hackman, geddit?

>Even if she succeeded in a timeline, she would die and start all over again.
Its possible for Moira to permanently die after her X-gene has activated. Destiny says Moira 10 is the final life unless she makes the right choice at the end. There's no way that is not going to come into play, and Moira obviously has her power activated right now.

My guess is that power negation tech and x-gene negation tech prevents her from resetting. And there's a bunch of that already out in the world.

Even then, Moira 11 is implied to be the final life if Moira 10 manages to reset. So who knows whats going on there.

>How does Moria reincarnation work?
Exactly like this ( seriously ):
youtube.com/watch?v=YHcKoAMGGvY

Just like it always was 7 years, until they decided it was 14.

it's not exactly 10 years. it's scientific calculation C*10^n. Jordan White confirmed it's just rounded to 10. This is the best way to do it, it's never good to give hard dates in Marvel and this gives them wiggle room.

the day Kitty used the N word or both times.

is this Netflix jojo?

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EXCEPT HICKMAN POSTED A FUCKING TIMELINE WITH THE DATES(as per Moira's lifespan) YOU DONKEY

And fuck 10 years. That would still be nice. The fucking timeline shows pre-Hickman X-history being crammed into under 4.5 years.

always subject to changes

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>mfw I don't give a fuck about Muties, never read the books and am only reading HicKino, so I don't care about timelines and canon and such and such and such
It feels good to be free lads.

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Two questions. What does this double "And then" mean? It leads from her 9th to 10th life, and reads as if it skips or glossed over a life? But that can't be right.

Also why is the 10th timeline already set in stone with her marriage and Proteus and stuff, if she intends to break all the rules? She's just locked into the 616 fate we know anyway?

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Apocalypse ongoing to address his timeline please

Same feel.

And then they wonder why no one reads comics.

Hulk power creep hadn't fully set in?

To further elaborate on user's statement. Cyclops would help mutants. Phoenix would take what it has learned as proof that mutants are a failure of evolution and burn them all down in a best case scenario. More likely it would just burn down the earth.

We could have some bullshit where house of x is tenth life and it ends with them jumping back to the 6th life (616) with some changes made to it because of knowledge gained since. Moria going to sacrifice herself at the end of this.

Mutants dont kill themselves in most timelines. But the inevitable rise of the sentinel singularity probably means earth gets the torch.

That's kinda the point. The phoenix has Apocalypse ideology. If humans beat mutants, then the Phoenix sides with humans.

Shell end her looping if she succeeds. She can find a way to suppress her power during death. She can probably remember how to make that cure.

More like the humans inevitable create machines that beat both humans and mutants so fuck it time to burn earth down and start over.

It's a stupid fucking retcon done in order to have a big, yearly crossover event.

Have you ever read a single fucking Marvel comic?

That option was also presented in my original statement. I'm not sure why you're just repeating it.

That was 70s/80s Hulk when he didn't have stupid infinite power resurrection bullshit. Also they could just kill Banner.

And Days of Future Past sentinels were a way more serious threat. Two or three of them were enough to kill adult Colossus in his armour form, and one blast of their lasers was enough to kill Wolverine by flaying all the flesh from his skeleton.

This isn't an event comic

Wut

Magic

user, her 10th life is the 616 we've always known. It's set in stone because all those events already happened over the past 50 years.

I don’t know, but the X-Men books are officially garbage.

Hickman is completely full of shit

>Implying 616 isn't the redacted life 6

Lol no. 616 is definetly not 10th life it is either 11th or 6th, maybe even 4th but not 10th.