Why did spiderman become popular in Japan(iirc even rivaling Kamen Rider as a cultural icon)while Supes and Batman...

Superman kinda looks like Inoki(one of the most iconic figures of post war japan)

i mean, spider man started the super sentai series

because superman and batman are very gay and dated

but super sentai predates the japanese spiderman by 3 years...

The ones with giant robots, then.

no, sentai does. super sentai comes after spider man with battle fever j

sounds an awful lot like goalpost moving.

>goranger and jakq don't exist
lol ok

their sentai series, not super sentai

they didnt date eachother, superman dates lois lane and does not respond to batman's advances

Batman is popular as fuck.

They also love Doctor Doom since that 60's cartoon.
Marvel is too dumb and don't know how to make money.

Goranger and JAKQ are grandfathered in to the super sentai classification, and are considered sentai. The super sentai classification started with Battle Fever J, the first sentai series with a giant robot which was an idea carried over from Supaidaman.

gotta move those goalposts

>They also love Doctor Doom since that 60's cartoon.
user you can't make such claims without providing proofs

What goalposts? Sentai predates Supaidaman by 3 years, but super sentai was the result of bringing over the mecha idea from it. This is literally basic fucking sentai knowledge.

>Marvel don't know how to make money.
idk bro, the last 22 or so marvel movies made some decent profit. not great by any means but decent

Simple, Spider-Man came out at a time when Kamen Rider was really big in Japan and it appealed to the Jap masses.

>What goalposts?
the ones you keep shifting.
>SPIDERMAN PREDATES SENTAI
>no it doesn't
>WELL HE PREDATES THIS SPECIFIC POINT OF SENTAI SO THERE

I'm not trying to prove a positive fact user, I'm just speculating.

Neither of them had shows

because they loved Marvel

Here's an ancient interview with the dude who helped run that shit. Basically Japan wanted the Christopher Hammond live-action Spider-Man show and Marvel went "hey, better idea."

Ironically Marvel assumed the US show would kick ass and the Japanese one would tank so they let them do whatever they wanted.

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I don't keep moving any goalposts. Both and are factually wrong.
Sentai does predate Supaidaman by 3 years, but super sentai, which is classified as a sentai with giant robots, resulted from Toei carrying over the mecha idea into Battle Fever J. Goranger and JAKQ weren't considered super sentai until 1994, when Toei grandfathered them in.
Just because you only have superficial knowledge of sentai, doesn't mean it's goalpost moving.

Can we get Supaidaman in the Spider-Verse sequel?

An american wrote this post.
A lot of the world doesn't have the same race obsession as you. people dln't care if the hero is whote, yellow or green.

theyve talked about it

>while Supes and Batman didn't?
I don't know, maybe it has to do with this
youtube.com/watch?v=NjubbG_XPqg
youtube.com/watch?v=-YDO8HR_2Xg

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>can we get Doraemon in the Spider-Verse sequel

now you're talking

>A lot of the world doesn't have the same race obsession as you. people dln't care if the hero is whote, yellow or green.
Then why is Japanese Spider-man Japanese?

Did Batman never slap for war bonds?

Wasn’t Japanese Spider-Man originally conceived as a different show?

Originally he was going to be the sidekick to a Japanese prince that fell into a portal into the Marvel universe. Marvel nixed that. Then the studio turned the prince into the main character who is visited by a spider alien.

They should make a Supaidamn sequel with NotMiles and Takuya as his mentor.

You could do all sorts of things with it if they decide to go more towards Marvel lore:

>NotMiles' mecha is Black Panther to continue the feline motif of Leopardon
>NotMiguel/Supaidaman 2099 is a time-traveller that is part of the "Supaidaman Core"; a legion of Spider-Men that acts as cops in the future that was misteriously wiped out
>Daredevil is rewritten into a Zattori-esque blind superhero who lives in the Kabukicho red-light district of Tokyo Why yes, I have played Yakuza
>Black Cat is a Doronjo-esque villain who used to be Takuya Yamashiro's old flame; she works alongside her henchmen Shocker and Rhino
>Carol used to be the Cutie Honey-esque heroine called Miss Marvel known for her spunky attitude and sex appeal; she's now "Lady Marvel" a serious and Jotaro-esque heroine who scuffs at her past
>Camilla Kon is a brazilian "halffu" and a doujinshi artist with most works based on superheroes; she's inspired by NotCarol as she was once saved by her during her Cutie Honey days
>Doctor Strange is an Onmyōji that works to protect Japan from ancient spirits hailing from the Dark Dimensions such as Dormammu; often coming toe-to-toe with Majin Mordo
>Wolverine is the codename for Sasaki Kojiro, the man who was cursed with immortality after his fight with Miyamoto Musashi

>Kingpin is basically Kaoru Hanayama from Baki

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he's cute. look at those big cute white eyes. wouldn't you take him home?

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>>Carol used to be the Cutie Honey-esque heroine called Miss Marvel known for her spunky attitude and sex appeal; she's now "Lady Marvel" a serious and Jotaro-esque heroine who scuffs at her past

Oh god I want this

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Superhero we’re fairly popular when the Spider-Man show came out and it boomed with the Super sentai stuff so it isn’t that much of a stretch that he’d become popular but I doubt he was ever rider levels

>Batman didn't?
Batman the top 5 most referenced superhero in anime and manga dimwit

>Batman is grimdark, which doesn't appeal to them either.
>all anime is moeshit before 2008

Eh? Isn't Japanese Spider-Man actually just an alien being from the planet Spider, who just happens to be played by a Japanese actor, because the Japanese Spider-Man show is being made in Japan, where it's safe to assume that almost everyone there is Japanese, and thus the actor for Japanese Spider-Man would have to be very likely Japanese?

Technically it doesn't
Sentai existed prior to Supaidaman and Battle Fever J, but it was those two series which were the result of a Marvel partnership, that got the franchise rebranded to Super Sentai. It's a technicality and only really about nomenclature, but there it is.

Nope. He's a Japanese guy named Takuya that gets alien DNA injected into him. The alien is from Planet Spider.
And while we're on the subject, there's also the other Japanese Spider-man, Yu Komori, from the manga. And Sho Amano from Spider-Man J.
They all showed up in Spider-verse, which states "there's like four or five Japanese Spider-men".
I'm guessing Peni and Aikman were the other two?

No cape.

Isn't this basically Mangaverse?

Superman was too Americanized.

Batman was too divorced from Japanese reality because no one there is that rich and just decides to be a crimefighter.

Ironically, Batman is big in Mexico, ostensibly for his similarity to Zorro.

>Because they didn't make a Superman or Batman tokusatsu.
instead they made a superman anime

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>>Black Cat
its basically Fujiko Mine

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>draw a man
>add boobs
bravo Marvel

Because Marvel kind of lets Japan do whatever it wants. Spider man is now a motocross champ with a giant robot? Sure. The heroes are now trapped in pogs? Why not. Blame it all on Pym.

As it turns out the japanese usually know what japanese people like. DC controls their IPs too much. It makes it all look great but you lose that touch.

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gay post

Are you on the turkey? The world is worse, so much worse. And if you tell them racism is bad they call you a canadian while making lewd gestures.

Superman and Batman were both popular in Japan at points. Superman's mainly in the 50's where it influenced a lot of other liveaction heroes like Moonlight Mask and Supergiant. Batman was popular in the 60's and 90's after the show and 89 movie.

Seems like a bunch semantics. It seems like most people just include Goranger and JAKQ when they talk about super sentai anyways. It's dumber than the super robot vs real robot debates.

reminder that japs love our cartoons better because the story is told as the cartoon progresses and isn't stuck following a manga.
Japs also suck dick at story telling

I'm just here to post not-Hela from Denziman

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Machiko Soga was too good for this world

He had a giant mech and the other two didn't
Very simple logic

Why did you remind me of that shit?

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Like I said, after 1994 they were grandfathered in. But when people say stuff like Supaidaman had nothing to do with the creation of super sentai, or super sentai was created before Supaidaman, it becomes necessary to clarify.

Stan Lee is a better salesman

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the nukes turned them into a country of bitches and as we already know...

He was also a weeb on a tremendous level.

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I'm kind of interested in Kamen Rider. Anything I should look into? Are there any heroes in DC/Marvel that are like Kamen Rider?

He was penpals with Go Nagai at one point

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>I'm kind of interested in Kamen Rider. Anything I should look into?
Kamen Rider.

>iirc even rivaling Kamen Rider as a cultural icon

Okay retard, stop going to /m/.

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You could start with the current show or the next one that's about to start or you could pick an older show based on if it sounds interesting to you.
> Are there any heroes in DC/Marvel that are like Kamen Rider
Blue Beetle?

>Start with zio

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Superman is more of an American cultural icon. He IS Americana so it would probably be strange for Japs to try to make him their own especially after the whole WW2 thing

If I was going to hazard a guess, both Batman and Superman are too Eurocentric. Batman is distinctly gothic and Supes is Americana incarnate. That said, Batman is considerably easier to adapt.

It's such a shame that Ninja Batman was such a steaming pile of shit. What a waste of a concept.

I figured he could use it to see what suits he likes and go from there. I sorta did that with Decade.

I've only seen Fourze because of the protag.

How popular are comics in Japan?

that's wrong
he popularized tv henshin types having a giant robot though

Berserk is way darker than Batman and most other capeshit, I'm pretty sure it's still popular in Japan, they did make it after all.

There are so many Spider-Men they could do shit like Supaida-Man Noir, Supaida-Man 2099, etc

That could explain why Spider-Man had a robot named LEOPARDon.

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Spiders are good luck

cuz japs love twinks

Berserk plays its grimdarkness straight, Batman's brand of darkness is pussy shit compared to it.

I'm sure Batman is fairly popular in Japan. They get a lot of our American TV shows especially in the 60s when Adam West Batman was airing. Plus they get a lot of our shitty movies so they probably got those too.

Isn't Superman still the most popular superhero in Mexico though after Goku?

So why was the og Spider-Man show from the sounds of it a fun super Sentai show while the manga was an incredibly depressing take on the characters with no happy ending for anyone of the characters

>while Supes and Batman didn't?
You seem to be forgetting that Japan's Emperor was Japan's number 1 Superman super-fan

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For the same reason Spider-Man is popular everywhere else. He has universal appeal and a lot of good media outside of comic books.

Spider-man is the most popular superhero in the world. Batman is not that far from him, but Superman is not even close.

Because spiderman is a kid. And all androgynous and stuff. The japs lick all that shit up faster than girls used underwear.

It's different eras is all it is.

Monkey Punch ans Osamu Tezuka were huge Superman fans, Tezuka was even the leader of the official fanclub.

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Because of that exact same reason op

JAPAN
LIKE
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Batman is fairly popular in Japan but I read that all of the B:TAS episodes haven't been dubbed, which is a shame. youtube.com/watch?v=SatQrIfyxhk

Wasn't this what started the giant monster/robot fights and posing in Super Sentai?
As in this show did it first?

>Batman
They already had one

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>Why did spiderman become popular
>while Supes and Batman didn't?
Nips have shit taste?

One was for kids and one isn't?
Also being Spider-man is suffering.

Yes, Spider-Man is the grandfather of Power Rangers.

back then? supidah-man was gaining more ground i guess. this was in the 70s right? bats and supes have been a round a while and probably had issues with the Japanese still.

No, he doesn't. He looks like a typical aryan ubermensch except he has dark hair. Inoki looks like an asian Robert Z'dar.

Because Spider-Man is pretty based and multilayered while Batman is edgy and one note, and god knows Japan has enough of these fucking characters.

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Which makes it weird that Batman doesn't have one, since he's someone who can easily make his own powered suit and mecha.

>Wasn't this what started the giant monster/robot fights
No, but Toei did make one of the first Mecha shows to feature a giant robot fighting monsters(Giant Robo, known to boomers and kaiju fans as Johnny Sokko and his Flying Robot)

What if we merged Batman, Mecha and Truman Show?

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I think part of it is that Spider-Man's body is completely covered in his costume, so any picture of Spider-Man can be a picture of a Japanese dude. That way it appeals to racists, which is most of Japan, but also appeals to Japs who think that white Americans are cool, which is also a lot of Japs.

Y'know, I actually think it'd be kind of hilarious if you were to make an entire Japan-themed Marvel universe and Wolverine was EXACTLY the same person he is in 616.