Create clones of Moira using Krakoa

>create clones of Moira using Krakoa
>put them to stasis
>when shit goes wrong kill one of them to reset the universe back in time
Here you go, no need to worry about running out of lives!

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Don't the rules of time travel in Marvel mean she just creates a whole new universe when she dies?

Isn't this MCU exlusive thing

bump

I used to have doubts, but now I LOVE HICKMAN

I like how Hickman intertwines mutants with terminators-tier AI

No, this is basic Marvel multiverse theory dating back decades.

>Destiny is supposedly always able see Moira, who is an undetectable mutant, and kill her if she doesn't use her life to help mutants
>Can't fucking see GIANT MUTANT KILLER ROBOTS wiping out mutantkind on several different timelines

And this is why Hackman is a hack.
>But it's all actually according to Destiny's keikak-
FUCK OFF!

Like Marvel has ever been consistent about that. All the stories with time loops alone throw that out the window.

Her power isn't normal time travelling.
The best way to describe it is that she has built in Doomlocks. Any change she forces is restricted entirely to that dimension.

What if this whole X-Men run is actually a pretense to make a desperate attempt to destroy the sliding timescale, or at least make it a bit more bearable?

Pretty retarded since Hickman is the guy who told a story dedicated to the creation of the sliding timescale as an in-universe phenomenon in S.H.I.E.L.D.

Muties constantly break the rules of time travel

It just makes me sad that they're most likely gonna backpedal on this at the end and go back to the same status quo.
The end of the latest uncanny run really soured me on the x-men as a whole.

>>But it's all actually according to Destiny's keikak-

You know that is the answer. The only solution she had was to push Moria along the path we are getting now.

I want Hickman to somehow merge all the timelines into one so that the entire history of the X-Men happened because of Moira.

cheer up user, maybe the writers will get creative and come up with some new reason for mutant extinction once Hickman leaves :)

there's an entire timeline about how sentinels are an inevitable problem to deal with

This its going to be like Morrisons run all over again.

It literally was stated in this issue that Sentinels are inevitable. No matter the fuck you do

Perhaps I'm too stupid to understand what happened her but does the universe stop at Moira's death? Like once Moira is born the universe is just on a 20-30 year trajectory that resets back to Moira's birth every time she dies? And which life timeline have we been in this whole time since the X-Men were created? I like the ambitiousness here of the entirety of the X-Men being caught up in Moira's reset ability but I'm pretty confused on the details.

So why is a mutant cure awful if the alternative is literally always being brutally murdered by sentinels, Destiny?

>its a time travel story

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no she just reincarnates, she's kinda living through multiverses?

According to the diagram at the end of the issue, we're on her 10th-and-final-or-possibly-second-to-last life right now. The other nine iterations are all timelines which have been either overwritten or just left behind already.

It would be interesting if it turned out that her powers still just create branching timelines, though, and those other nine are still out there in the multiverse.

Yeah, let's have two anti-mutant problem instead of one

What confuses me though is #4 sounds like our 616. And we've read comics with Moira in them for decades. So has Hickman just reset the entire Marvel Universe to tell House of X?

So Groundhog Day is a time-travel story for you?

So choosing to drive your species intentionally into bloody extermination is good because muh principles?

who cares, he will inevitably reset house if x himself with 11th life. Continuity of the 10th life in the chart was wrong anyway

Wait so is "The Most Important Moment in X-Men History" life 10? Because Moira and Xavier have obviously known each other for a while in X-comics so is this supposed to be a flashback to their meeting, meaning Xavier knew all of Moira's lives for the entirety of 616 X-Men comics or is this a new timeline? What the fuck Hickman.

Don't forget that the 6th life is omitted, which means it's a game-changer. 616 as we know it is either 6th, or 11th life. House of X is definitely not the normal 616. Depending on which one it is, it's gonna end with either the whole thing being the true authentic ultimate ending for X-men for realz, that will always loom in the future, but never actually comes to pass, or "we went too far and it got all wrong" scenario, where they decide that fighting old-style is better morally, even if not as effective, respectively.

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No him, but yes

Ah shit I didn't even catch the missing 6th. I need to read more closely

If it's the 6th, that'd be Marvel literally saying nothing X-men related that you read in the future matters anymore. They could never do that. It would be the ultimate jumoing off point, sabotaging the very reason they had Hickman do the books in the first place.

What matters is the story being told right now, not whether the next writer runs with it.

>They could never do that. It would be the ultimate jumoing off point, sabotaging the very reason they had Hickman do the books in the first place.
On the contrary, that means Hickman gets to write the definitive final X-Men story, while also being able to return things to status quo at the end, since the general narrative we follow in X-Men comics will never leave the 6th life timeline. The whole thing will be like Spider-Man 2099 - the supposed future, but it will never actually happen in 616.

Only Tempus was able to do that, that's why it was such a big deal.

If we're going off this chart, then yes

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>Moira dies
>The timeline where you created Moira Clones never happens
RETARD

Exept she is 50% at her last life. Or she could die with power blocking collar on. RETARD

Say ONE got their hands on Moira's cure that would be game over for mutants.

It's actually kind of astounding to me how the same general book/characters can go from being some of the worst trash in the industry to one of the most exciting things happening with a simple writer change.

Yeah, sucks we are back to worst trash in the industry.

the most interesting part that aside from Groundhog Moira its not even that original. We already had the cure, sentinels, dark future and time travel before. It's just feels different this time

You know the final panel of the last issue of Hickman's run is gonna be Fetus Moira

>everything lives

I think Hickman just has a unique voice that makes what he writes feel like a structured event rather than just ongoing comics.

Hickman confirmed the genosha/Moira thing was a misprint and it's the other way around.

White needs to get his shit together, Jesus fuck

this is the first time in a long time that i have been excited to read x men garbage.

For a long time it felt like writing an x title was some sort of twisted gang initiation into the marvel short list of go to writers.

I think it is pretty obvious that the "big reveal" will be that 616 is her 6th life.

Even Mystique gave up on Destiny's shit. At this point, if the world is doomed no matter what, the blue bitch will gladly kill as many people as she can along the way.

this can't be true. It either makes all future runs meaningless or gets retconned as soon as possible. 616 being mindwipe+11th life is more possible

Is it not

Why would future runs be meaningless? The 616 universe should still be there and running. House of x would just be in a different universe/reality aka Moiras 10th life.

it means that all events in 616 timeline would eventually be erased and 10th/11th one would be the only true x-men ending

No. Each life is its own timeline, it just happens that Moira resurrects in a different one each time ahe dies.

Well I think the issue is each life is considered a "failure" timeline. So I don't know how you get to 11 and then go ehhhh I guess 6 was the least shitty so we'll go back to that one. That one already happened and Moira already died and reset to a new one. So the only possible explanation is things got better in 6 after Moira died and she just didn't know it.

I don't think we're actally gonna see the 11th life, I think Hickman is just setting up a "get out of jail free" card for any future writers who maybe wanna change anything they don't like

>people trusting Hickman on the X-Men

Get ready for Doctor Doom to swoop in at the last minute again to make all the build-up pointless.

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No that’s how time travel has worked in Marvel forever. Unless you have a Doomlock which locks the timeline to your own, you create an alternate universe

Magik used to timetravel without creating new universe, but it was way back at new mutants

Than how Rachel and Cable and Bishop ended up in 616 universe