Attendance drops at Disney's U.S. theme parks

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>Attendance drops at Disney's U.S. theme parks
I guess opening Star Wars Land with only one of the planned rides wasn't a good idea

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higher prices is whats truly killing it.

Isn't a one day ticket to magic kingdom almost $150 now?

>raise price of tickets
>bar annual passholders from visiting all of the summer
>attendance drops
They finally hit that wall of how much normies are willing to pay to visit their parks. Tickets are too expensive or the attractions just don't do the job anymore.

Overcrowding is hell and killing the parks. Why would people want to visit more then once and spend thousands on a vacation for that line? There's no offseason anymore with the way Disney shifted attendance
This hurts for second-timers planning a vacation, especially those on the northeast coast who have wealth that Disney would get more of besides park tickets and hotel. I hear a lot here about making Universal trips instead

How can overcrowding be dealt with aside from price increases? Surely if the prices dropped significantly, they'd be slammed with unimaginable crowds even worse than before.

there's not really much they can do about it

Lobby Congress to keep the Chinese out?

They're already trying to contain the chinese market with 2 theme parks

Damn straight. My girlfriend and I visited with our family this summer and found a lollipop for thirty dollars. Thirty goddamn dollars. For a lollipop.

>How can overcrowding be dealt with aside from price increases? Surely if the prices dropped significantly, they'd be slammed with unimaginable crowds even worse than before.
put a hard cap on how many people can be in the park at once seems like an easy solution, as for how to keep things balanced between Local visitors, US Tourists, and International Tourists, have quotas of how many of each category can be in the park at a time as well(with which group gets priority changing on a day to day basis)

of course for this to work out well you'd probably have to change it so that Tickets and Passes to the parks have to be bought ahead of time and can only be used for specific dates(or maybe a range of dates)

They just opened a japanese restaurant at Epcot with a Omakase Tasting Menu starting at $130
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>only pander to liberals
>liberals don't have kids nor jobs

Shut up and cry someone else /pol/

It's impossible to be this wrong

>Shut up and cry someone else /pol/
Why should I cry, I didn't lose my job unlike the Disney workers due to identity politics

/thread

dont /thread your own post

It's $120 at WDW.

Build a 3rd park. Drop it in Texas or somewhere else between California and Florida where it doesn't snow.

damn, that's not far off.
I wonder how many US people try and import those special UK tickets with everything included?
They planned to build a park in Virginia (Disney's America)

>willing to pay
Or just can't afford in the first place.

>Why aren’t millennials buying diamond rings?: the park

It’s only a few hundred dollars.

and a trip across the country plus lodging expenses
go back into cryosleep, Walt

This.

You've got it wrong, right now it's "why are millennials spending money at Disney World?" Also travel and lodging expenses aren't going to be much higher than visiting any other vacation destination area within a given travel distance.

>special UK tickets with everything included?
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by that.

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Cool

I work at Disneyland. Can confirm. It’s harder to get hours because of this.

Are you retarded? Stop giving bloody secrets away!!!!

WE DID IT UNIVERSAL BROS, THE MOUSE IS FUCKING CRUMBLING

EPIC UNIVERSE HERE WE COME

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One million mom's complained about the gays in Toy Story 4 so that might explain the decrease in attendance.

One million moms.com

Building another, perhaps smaller parks around the country probably would be best.

>Disney World is a great family vacation place. However, children of those ages will not remember a thing in a few years from their trip. You will of course have wonderful pictures. Other friends suggested to us that we wait until our children were between 6-10 to go and it was perfect for both
Example of advice I don't want


Next week, I'm taking my four year old niece to Hollywood Studios, IOA, and Universal. It was not paid for by me so I did not pick the parks although I am super excited about going. My question is what tips do you have for someone who is going to the parks with a four year old? Do I need a stroller? Do I need to worry about child snatchers? Should I eat there or bring my own food? I also have a Grandmother coming with me. She's 78.

I don't think there are enough cartoon loving software engineers making 200k or more a year to make up for Disneyland's operating costs.

it depends, because a lot of people spend more then a 2 or 3 days the price can drop to just under 70 bucks but you also got hotel costs and food.

Probably because she's going to get tired long before you are. Not really, her wandering off and getting lost if you're not paying attention is a bigger risk. As far as Disney goes, they really screw you over on snacks, but eating in the actual restaurants doesn't have a huge markup compared to most tourist areas. And it depends on the health of your grandmother. Most important, wear plenty of sunscreen and keep hydrated.

Universal and Disney should work together like Facebook Twitter and Google do. Make a monopoly. It'd save them a lot of stress.

Wow that looks romantic!

>My question is what tips do you have for someone who is going to the parks with a four year old?
enjoy it? Kids can pretty much ride everything at that age except the mountains and even then, barnstormer is there and big thunder is a maybe. I wouldn't try space mountain till you're sure, tho.
Also if the ride has a drop, DON'T SCARE THEM, make it seem fun like "READY READY WEEEEEE!!!!" on POTC

> Do I need a stroller?
yes. until that fucker is 8 they'll tire out and get back into the stroller and pass out midday.

> Do I need to worry about child snatchers?
about as much as any place else.

>Should I eat there or bring my own food?
depends: do you got the cash to eat there? Where are you eating? the bigger resturants are expensive but well worth the price.

>I also have a Grandmother coming with me. She's 78

You're not getting special treatment if she can't walk. old people are a dime a dozen in florida and they don't give a shit.

This. 100%

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There's also a growing problem...

youtu.be/i9_RSok8SEw

>themeparkinsider.com/flume/201908/6933/
it the price in incress and the economy in general

Onemillionmoms.com

>implying US citizens have kids or jobs in general

Elon Musk and Kanye West would probably offer their design advice for free. They genuinely care about improving the world.

Hollywood Studios CM here. Been to Galaxy's Edge once already, going again in a week. AMA

>Galaxy's Edge once already, going again in a week
Why would you put yourself through that?

Thank you so much for the information! Any other advice is appreciated. I'm 28 but I am bringing two people who obviously do not have the energy or abilities I have. I"m worried about pushing a stroller in the heat all day.
Whats the best way to stay hydrated? Can you bring in a cooler? Should I just buy drinks all day or bring my own?

It's free. I'm luckily not working in there, though

Bring reusable water bottles. There are drinking fountains in the park and Quick Service restaurants give ice water for free. Otherwise the bottles they sell are $3 each. They also rent electric scooters for $50 a day. You can bring a cooler, but there is no loose ice allowed as of May 1st, so bring cold packs instead.

the best way to stay cool is to literally just ask the stalls for water. free, but sometimes the water smells cause it's purified swamp water.

>attendance down
good, i hope it keeps going down
shits too expensive

Thank you so much for all the great tips!

>disneyland hiked their AP prices up to insane degrees probably because of star wars land
>star wars land flopped, or at the very least didn't perform to their expectations
>now attendance is flopping because day passes are still insane and buying an AP now costs the same as buying an iphone
Fuck them tbqh

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Do they have the straw issues that California has? I really like cups with ice water and straws.

Can YOU(you) do better? Play Planet coaster.

Also, download and use the MyDisneyExperience app. You can change fast passes on the fly, check wait times across the park, preorder quick service food, make full service dining reservations, etc.

I want to keep my phone charged all day. Does anyone know if the parks accept portable battery chargers for phones or you're not alllowed to bring them?

I think WDW is using paper straws now. Definitely at Animal Kingdom, but not sure about everywhere else

You can bring your own charger or battery pack. There are no charging stations around, but you are free to use an outlet if you find one. Every park also has a location that sells Fuel Rods, portable batteries that you can use, then exchange for a full one when it runs out. I think they run at $30

Magic Kingdom too.

Why are they bringing California bullshit to FL???? They're ruining our lives!!!!!!!!

>why is a big ass zoo/wildlife reserve would they use biodegradable materials.

user... are you retarded?

Fun fact, Animal Kingdom also doesn't have balloons and CMs aren't supposed to give out the free stickers

Since when is Magic Kingdom a wild life preserve?! Even at zoos, no is throwing straws at the animals! This is another example of green tyranny these Liberals keep pushing!!!!! Stop taking away our happy things!!!!

Rode Smuggler's Run yesterday. It's neat at first, but finding out it's the same route each time was the most disappointing part of it. Being engineer fucking sucks.

They're hiking prices up to keep away these types of people. youtube.com/watch?v=JELARubcPlo

Doesn't Disney world have security to deal with these people and situations? I mean they're on private property.

>I really like cups with ice water and straws

Fucking americans, I swear. You don't need a straw.

I've only ridden it once, I was left pilot and paired with a right gunner, no other people rode with us. It was terrible. The up/Down right autopilot crashed into so much, and with only 1 gunner we were unable to steal the 2nd coaxium because you need to fire both grappling hooks. Didn't even need engineers. The best part of the whole ride is pulling the hyperdrive lever

It simplifies logistics to only use one kind of straw. Plus plastic drinking straws didn't really come about until the 60s.

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That poor janitor

>Yea Forums will defend this price gouging
Get fucked, Mouseshills.

Chad six flags > Virgin Disney parks

I thought they got rid of all the animals after some retard let his kid touch a gator?

Yes we do

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I'm willing to pay more to keep people who don't know how to behave out.

They are a wonderful invention! Why do you hate comfort?

Yeah I’m actually surprised how much Disney dropped the ball on this dhit

The kid got killed at a resort with DANGER signs near the natural water, and he was alegedly messing with the gator. The only lasting consequences were more DANGER signs, and they didn't make jokes about gators on Jungle Cruise or Kilamanjaro Safaris for a few weeks

>Chad six flags > Virgin Disney parks
This is unironically true

>Star Wars Land
episode 7-9 land
I would love a 1-6 land, even a 4-6 land would be ideal

Disney let the Gators get too big and people were feeding them. The two gators killed a kid who was wading in a pond at a resort. The pond looks like a beach. Disney could have prevented this because you're supposed to kill gators who are accustomed to humans.

This gator was not at their Animal Kingdom park.

Thanks for the ad, I just realized I haven't been to Six Flags once this summer.

>The father did his best, tried to rescue the child, however to no avail. A struggle did ensue and the father has some sort of minor lacerations to his arm, so he was able to get over there fairly quickly.

“You know how a father who witnesses this must have felt. It is tragic, it is heartbreaking, there’s no other way to say it. We’re just going to keep searching and searching and searching.”

Plastic straws are for fags who want an extra hit of chemicals and xenoestrogens while they sip their bitch drinks

I'm against homosexuality but why do you have to call people the f word?

Your girlfriend is cheating on you with the male cast members

It's fucking Florida. You can't keep the gators out of any body of water for long. The family were Nebraskans that didn't know any better and thought it was okay for their kid to splash around in Florida water after dark.

They also filled the beach with rocks as part of its closure.

Disney needs to do what universal is doing and EXPAND.
Disney is more then capable of building several new parks. But they refuse too, which means crowds will only get worse for the parks that already exist.

Make the other locations more viable. Disneyland Paris doesn't compare to either of the US locations as it is, the only reason you'd choose DLP over Florida is that you're bored of Florida. Give the international parks genuine E-ticket exclusives and when doing rides across multiple parks open them closer together. Waiting four years to get a clone of the ride at another park is kinda shitty.

More crowd soaking attractions. High capacity dark rides that last 20+ minutes, stop closing theatres and stunt shows. They can take 1000 people off the paths for 45 minutes.

Bring back the places where you can sit down and have a cake and coffee for half an hour. They've slowly removed all of these and replaced them with Starbucks without any seating. The only places you can sit with a drink now are the cramped noisy fast food outlets. More people sitting down, less people queuing and walking around.

>The best part of the whole ride is pulling the hyperdrive lever
Rode it four times and got stuck as engineer twice, watching the pilots on both rides not know what to do when it was time to pull hyperdrive was frustrating to sit through and I don't even care about Star Wars enough.

The secuirty cast members aren't allowed to touch guests or they lose their jobs. No cast member is really allowed to touch guests. I heard a story of a college program kid that gave CPR to a kid that got off Mission Space and it was what saved the kid's life and the managers wanted to fire the college kid.

Instead, they have Orange County police on property to manhandle anyone that needs it.

Don't worry. The South American teenagers are still going to plague the Florida parks no matter how much they hike the prices.

The problem is that you can't really give parks a bunch of things that are totally exclusive as otherwise you'll breed negativity. If DL had things completely unique and WDW had things completely unique, then the people who have to travel equally long distances to either would be fine, but the people living in proximity to the parks would be upset. Then you've got the issue of what happens when a unique attraction is really popular or unpopular. If it's popular there is zero reason to not add it to the other parks, and if it is unpopular it means one of your parks is going to be down an attraction if you remove it.

Though I think you're right in that they need more "canteen" style areas where you can get a drink and snack and just sit.

Man, the Brazillian school tour group that was there when I last went to Magic Kingdom was pretty well-behaved and the chaperones had their shit on lockdown.

GUYS DID YOU KNOW THAT HORIZONS IS THE BEST RIDE EVER
n-no, I never rode it.... I was three months old when it finally shut down...
BUT HORIZONS IS STILL THE MOST EPIC RIDE TO EVER BE A DISNEY. ALL THE DISNEY VIDEO ESSAYISTS TOLD ME SO

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this is 100 percent the truth

plastic straws are the only way to drink a frozen drink

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The best way of doing it is providing alternatives rather than completely unique.

Paris gets a Space mountain that's a full on white knuckle launch coaster. Other parks get the traditional "family coaster in the dark".
Shanhai gets its modern Pirates of the Carribean, other Disney parks get the traditional ones.
California gets Indy, Florida gets Dinosaur.
Etc.

Make people jealous of rides but make them recognise that they themselves have a version of that ride or technology in use already so they won't feel too bitter.

you just know

six flags are the poor mans park dollywood is the real kino

wow, who knew having a place that costs hundreds of dollars to go to, and is located in the middle of florida would have people getting into fights due to basically snapping under all the pressure to "get your money's worth of fun".
>OneMillionMilfs.com
>ARA ARA

they should cook the gators and serve them in some kind of cajun stew or something.

Do not insult our lord Figment

>promise Rise of the Resistance to be their best new attraction in years
>they meant that it wasn't going to open in years

lol is this a bit?

literally I'd have more fun at an arcade that just had flight simulators hooked up to some online thing.

and I'm talking the full-flight simulators, the kind where you can be spun upside down and shit, like those stupid rollercoaster sims at malls but with like a joystick, throttle and rudder pedals.

did that once at an air and space museum, it was fucking awesome.

They have a majority monopoly in the Orlando area
Problem is they will never tack on national parks in other places of the country so that couldn't work

the problem with the way disney does things though is they need to make it accessible to idiots and retards, while also ensuring that they can "move the fucking lines" quickly enough that people don't just give up on it.

I'd give anything to be able to fly a TIE Fighter in one of those flight sims.

Keep guzzling that corporate cock user.

nah, you see space/tie-fighter-stuff has a downside... mostly "no ground" to watch out for or "energy" to manage (energy being both present-forward momentum and altitude that you can turn into forward momentum)..

my problem was the lack of eastern-front stuff..
I kind of like IL-2's and soviet-light bombers.. there's something interesting about them and soviet aircraft in general.

now a tie-fight simulator could be cool, but it would (at least for me) require that it's got a lot more "BS roleplay shit" like engine management and startup procedures and all that stuff which could make !!!FUN!!!! happen

Six Flags St. Louis has gone WAY downhill. On the other hand it IS mostly coasters, which I prefer to animatronics and mascots.

say it with me:
>ceader fairs!
(yeah it's meh, I only did ceder point in middle school and got sick)

>six flags saint louis
Oh you poor soul, you got dealt the hand of one of the parks Six Flags doesn't give a fuck about.

The main stay six flags parks that ALWAYS get yearly rides are as follows:
Magic Mountain, Great America, Discovery Kingdom, Over Texas, and Great Adventure.

The rest are basically left to die as they are either in horrid locations, or don't get enough traffic to warrant a new ride.

Anyways, cedar fair > six flags

Trust me I can tell. I hadn't been in like five years until this summer and the place has gone WAY downhill. All the themeing has been removed, all the rides break down frequently, all the chain restaurants have pulled out.

The Boss is still my favorite coaster though

They've been trying to get a third park area in the states for decades. No city or town will agree to it because it will bring hundreds of thousands of jackass tourists and basically give Disney control of the town.

For once America is smart.

nah, Disney doesn't want the midwest cause of tornadow alley and the shitty hail and snow storms.

as much as you guys go "lol cali" some fires in the hills and a bit of wiggling from time to time is a lot easier to build against.

Damn, is it really that bad? Six Flags St. Louis is the closest major theme park to me, and unless I want to make a daytrip of visiting Branson or Kansas City, virtually my only option that doesn't require a multiple day vacation. Or settling for a water park, which is a very different thing.

>The secuirty cast members aren't allowed to touch guests or they lose their jobs. No cast member is really allowed to touch guests. I heard a story of a college program kid that gave CPR to a kid that got off Mission Space and it was what saved the kid's life and the managers wanted to fire the college kid.
What in the actual fuck is the point of security if you don't let them manhandle people. If people come on to your property you should be able to beat them if they chimp out, fuck'em.

That's why Walt wanted to do an indoor park in St. Louis, called Riverfront Square. Would have primarily focused around Westward Expansion (including a Louis and Clark water ride, an Audubon Birds show) and what became New Orleans Square as it featured both Haunted Mansion and Pirates.

Ended up getting canned because of Busch throwing a fit over the concept of a theme park without any beer.

is park Rey still cute?

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still cuter then movie rey

youtube.com/watch?v=y9NLEpLV94s
how can disney and universal compete?

That would get robbed so fast in America.

Jewry sucks

It's not worth the price but it is fine for a thrill ride park. It's got the feeling of a mall that is about to close down but the rides all work and everything.