>the entirety of the story arc of the original Avengers team is finished >they never once faced the Master of Evil, or any form of their greatest villains joining forces against them >they adapted civil war instead
When did you realize that the MCU was absolute trash?
Who even cares about old Avengers comics man. I'm not Kurt Busiek, Marvel aren't paying me to read old back issues about Immortus the Time-Lord or whatever
Sebastian Howard
probably uninformed theory but the reason we don't see films with like the legion of doom, masters of evil, crime syndicate, etc. just large villain teams is movie studios have no idea how to pull that off. Think of how big those casts are, and giving each character enough screentime to develop them
Matthew Barnes
>writers can't write how is this allowed
Brayden Williams
First of all, Ultron without Hank Pym absolutely blows and makes no sense, second, the "Age of Ultron" lasted about 3 days, and third, they fought no team of villains, they only dealt with elements of Hydra and the Chitauri remnants.
Ultron made sense for their second villain, but he was done poorly. It would have made more sense if he was just trying to enslave the world unde his robot surveillance dominion than pulling another world ending scheme. In any case, no dramatic showdown against their evil opposite rivals, which is what was needed
Austin Gutierrez
film isn't just writing you fuckin knob. it's a visual medium and half-business too. Think of the budget. Think of how to direct that.
Xavier Campbell
After watching The Avengers in 2012. It was a simple cinematic abomination ala late 90s dtv Universal Soldier sequels or the Nightman tv show.
Camden Torres
That is one of the major complains that I have with the Avengers movies, seeing a team of heroes fighting against a faceless army is cool the first time but it gets old. It would be way better to see them fight against a team with unique abilities.
Nathan Edwards
It doesn't seem that hard man. In fact it seems like an extreme pleasure to be given that task, to develop a charismatic cast of super villains playing off each other.
In what scenario is the villain team not more fun and entertaining? Cobra, Decepticons, Skeletors squad, they were all vibrant and hilarious characters. Imagine the banter of the Masters of Evil.
It would have also required an actually well done and imperious Baron Zemo though, which was not delivered
>>they never once faced the Master of Evil, or any form of their greatest villains joining forces against them How much do you want to bet that they do something with the Thunderbolts before the Masters of Evil?
Jacob Rodriguez
Nah that makes perfect sense. We've seen so many instances where crowded villain teams leads to such rushed clusterfucks as Spider-Man 3. Usually what most capeshit films will do is rename one or two minor characters or antagonists to some established hero name and pass that off as enough. Villain teams work better for the serialized television format, where you can actually have individual establishing villain beats and play the villains off separately against the heroes without having to dedicate a disproportionate amount of time to them.
Hunter Wilson
It would have been so easy to establish a rival villain for each hero for a team up too, there was SO MUCH time and room to do it
Eli Cruz
i agree, this is what the sinister six should be, hopefully.
Angel Russell
>make huge roster of well known well liked protagonists playing off each other >make separate huge roster of well known contemptible but still charismatic and ultimately engaging villains playing off each other >creating interesting scenarios where these two groups of characters can fight each other giving as many characters their needed screentime as possible >doing this with a coherent and original story
Dylan Ross
Potential members? Loki?
Nathan Sanders
The MCU is literally serialized, are you really saying they couldn't have set up a big pay off of vengeful villains in all of those sequels?
Zemo is going to appear in the Falcon and Winter Soldier TV show.
Jack Phillips
bro you listed nothing but children's cartoons, what movie has an ensemble villain cast and doesn't suck?
Anthony Diaz
A precedent isn't necessary for something to be good.
Jaxson Young
face it most of the fans of marvel movies are just chad bros who mostly only know the characters due to movies and shows, and they just know were gonna go watch them anyways
Liam Martin
no, but saying "it can't be that hard" when it's literally never been done before is dumb as fuck
Jaxson Thomas
if they even remotely followed the comics they could have built it up to usher in the next decent avengers team but next there probably gonna focus on the next avengers which is a a shame i don't even think those comics took off, they were boring garbage as far as i am concerned
Landon Flores
It should have ushered into the X-Men as the main team
The first X-Men movie had Magneto, Mystique, Sabertooth, and Toad.
Dominic Gutierrez
First of all, we should have had Hank and Janet instead of Black Widow and Hawkeye, and their first villain should have been MODOK
Cameron Young
>Ultron without Hank Pym absolutely blows and makes no sense
Ultron as a direct creation of Tony Stark for the MCU would've made perfect sense you autist.
Alexander Lewis
Nobody gives a shit about comic books and what happened there. Comic book readers are literally 0.1 percent of the movie going audience.
Benjamin Nelson
Only if Ultron was trying to over exert control over the earth, which would have been a dark expression of his personality, trying to destroy the world and remake it was a dumb plot
Parker Carter
The MCU heroes are too good at killing their villains.
Camden Morgan
Basically this.
Dominic Young
That's less a team and more standard villain with henchmen, the difference being the henchmen have powers.
Caleb Wilson
Fuck off mutie, we've had 2 decades of your shit
Jacob Phillips
Dilate
Brayden Rivera
MCU Tony is all about reinvention, and his well intentioned goal in AoU is a shield around the world. Ultron's goals are a direct corruption of Tony's more general motif and his stated goals in the movie. Like, that movie sucks for numerous reasons, but it's thematically coherent.