Is Wasp really that iconic? Could Bumblebee perhaps have her own solo series? Janet has't really done much...

Is Wasp really that iconic? Could Bumblebee perhaps have her own solo series? Janet has't really done much, and Nadia's books haven't sold very well. This isn't a company wars thread, I'm just curious how one would fix The Wasp, and how Bumblebee could stand out on her own.

Which do you prefer?

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Give Jan her original color scheme back maybe? I dunno I think comics are big enough for two shrinking ladies but it's just a matter of setting up villains for them to fight

But I like Janet in yellow. Yeah I know the red is classic, but it's not like Iron Man is just gold/grey anymore.

Janet was really good in Busiek's Avengers run, probably the most competent leader the Avengers ever had. And she had a pretty iconic role in EMH. Not having her as a staple on The Avengers is a huge over sight, but then again, I don't want her written by hack Aaron anyway

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well, what niche would she fill? what is there to explore about the character?

EMH Janet was best Janet
Which character?

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I prefer Bumblebee to be honest, Wasp being a completelly normal woman without any skill besidess a suit made by someone else was always strange to me.

She is not even a genius businesswoman her daddy made her rich, she got no skills at all.

janet. would you want stuff that calls back to pym and ultron or just leave it all behind?

I feel like Wasp is in the tier that Martian Manhunter at DC and Ant-Man is in Marvel - a vital member of the “A-list solo book-holding heroes band together as a team” group, especially as a founder of said group... but explicitly as a uniquely-gimmicked hero WITHOUT a solo series or supporting cast (fellow themed heroes, civilians, villains), as an enticement to read the team’s book and to provide a new personality the main heroes, ones with solo books, can bounce off of not found in their own corner of the universe.

Actually Janet's powers are all her. She's irradiated with Pym Particles

Well you need the Hank and Ultron stuff. They're her fucked up family. Is it weird that I've wanted Janet to be the "Edna Mode" of Marvel?

it's a core part of her history, but Hank and Janet should never be a couple again, just friends.

This could be really cute if done right and they're explicitly good ones.

>Hank constantly makes cool and useful upgrades to Janet's powers when possible
>Janet hypes up Hank as the smartest guy she knows, allowing her influencer status to nab him valuable contracts and speaking appearances
>they fret over each other and vet one another's new dates and love interests
>affectionate to each other so much the other Avengers good-naturedly wonder if they're back together, but nah, they're just being cute to one another

I would love Hank to be supportive of Janet's new boyfriend...but it really can't be Tony.

Isn't she one of the Agents of Wakanda in Aaron's book?

going to be written by Zub

The Wasp, Wasp, and Red Hornet should get a team book with Red Hornet as the bumbling sidekick.

Call it Hive

>Hank
Didn't he die and get his soul eaten?

>There's a matriarchal secret society of were-wasps in Marvel that has existed for hundreds if not thousands of years
>Literally never fucking interacted with Janet
Make her the queen of the Sisterhood of the Wasp. Current one's been dead for years and Marvel almost never uses the group.

Are you thinking about Red Locust?

Because Red Hornet is pic related

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>Red Locust
Literally who?

>Because Red Hornet is pic related
Yes, that's who I meant. Hornet's niece.

Yes...? But Marvel has been really dicey with what Pymtron is. We will have to wait for the pymtron event this fall to figure out what the hell is going on.

Red Locust has more appearances and relevancy than Red Hornet who had only shown up in a single story

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Right, but Red Locust isn't a fucking wasp, dipshit.

Hey I'm just surprised anyone else remembers Red Hornet exists and wants her to show up again

I say throw in Spider-Wasp and Shathra while you're at it

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they shouldnt be friends. you cant be friends with someone when you constantly remind them of the mistakes they made in your care

Jan's powers don't come from a suit, Nadia's do, Jan was both infused with Pym particles and genetically altered with wasp dna in order to grow wings. The process also have her the ability to charge up dielectric energy which she fired out as her wasp sting.

>you cant be friends with someone when you constantly remind them of the mistakes they made in your care
I mean that would explain why all the X-men hate each other.

you aren't friends with your parents?

Isn’t the new Wasp gay?

Or bi. IIRC she's hooked up with the Viv twins.

She loves everyone

No, she's bipolar maybe you're thinking about Vision's daughter.

my parents dont always bring up my faults when they get mad, or when it suits them. and i dont do it either

ANT-MAN THE WASP AND STATURE COMING REAL REAL REAL SOON

Isn't she Stinger now?

Astonishing X-Men proved you could make any character centric comic provided you've got a good plot

you shouldn't gauge reader interest. gauge writer interest.

So how can we make Bumblebee cool?

We need all our cute bug themed heroes in one team

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Real shame that Ant-Man and Wasp are the only characters with a movie that don't have a book and only have minis. I guess Unstoppable Wasp counts but it was canceled and there was barely any Ant-Man in it.

Give her and the atom a mini series

To be fair Bucky doesn't have a book right now and he was the title character in Cap 2

Beetle isn't a hero, user

Maybe pivot to her being big, that was a lot of fun and she worked it well. Since cassie is stinger now you could try it

Call em Hive, and I want one cover where they all have beehive hairdoos

Scott doesn't care

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Give bumble bee some fur, maybe a boa or fuzzy leggings? The super hero girls costume where she has a big sweater is a great work for the name

He's apparently great in the sack