She deserved better

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She's going to be in the Falcon and Winter Soldier show and she'll slip Bucky the tongue and once and for all finish killing the Stucky fandom.

But seriously the actress just had the bad fortune of working for Directors who wanted to wank it to ScarJo whom they put her as the co-leading actress (despite the fact that the callsheet for Sharon was as main female co-lead) while said Directors also rushed a very poor romance between her and Steve.

>said Directors also rushed a very poor romance between her and Steve.

That was Ike.

>Mogged and cucked by her own great-aunt.

The absolute state.

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What makes you say that?

I remember reading the Marvel Creative Commitee pushed the more overtly romantic overtures of their relationship, namely their kiss in "Civil War", so people wouldn't misinterpret Cap's dedication to Bucky as romantic/sexual.

The Russos themselves felt the kiss was not needed.

>Implying she didn't fuck older uncle Steve when she was younger and that's why she got with younger Steve
>Implying she wasn't the one that told him to go back so another Sharon could have her Uncle Steve.
>Implying Steve didn't go back to Sharon Carter once Peggy started menopause.
>Implying Steve didn't fuck any other Carter niece
Evans did say Steve liked to keep it in the family for a reason user.

Yeah unless you have sauce I'm going to call bullshit on that.

It's not a stable time loop, user.

Old Steve was back so he could have visit unsnapped Sharon. Also he probably is slipping it to another Sharon then.

Also the writers and Directors can't agree on that.

I can believe it. There was a steep decrease of textbook romance subplots present in Phase 1/Phase 2 when Feige fully took over around the time of Doctor Strange.

>Also the writers and Directors can't agree on that.
part of me thinks that's intentional so fans can pick which ever ending they like more or hate less

Unless you have concrete proof I'm still going to call it bullshit. Seems like Stucky fan conspiracy, especially with how the Russos humored the Stucky fandom until they completely lacked on Bucky and Steve stuff in Endgame and suddenly had Steve pinning for Peggy again.

The Russos had no clue what to do with the character at that point, I mean they even said Iron man wasn't a character that sacrificed himself when the previous movies proved them wrong.

Also I doubt anyone in the CC gave a shit about Sharon, if they wanted a romance they would have pushed for Widow and Cap.

The ending is the same though.

Black Widow had already been permanently paired with Hulk at that point, and I recall the Russos being in favor of them staying strictly platonic.

After seeing this board, I deserve better

I knew it, I liked widow in winter soldier but it made way more sense for it to have been sharon

That was Whedon's doing and Age of Ultron had killed it that romance.

It's more prevalent in Waid's run and Brubaker's run but Sharon serves kind of a foil for Steve and challenges him. She's the realist to his idealist yet Steve's idealism also rubs on her from time to time and she's the one who props him up when he stops believing in himself. They have a good dynamic that would have been fun to explore in the MCU.

Heck M&M are big comic fans (they're the reason why Strange had more comic accurate spells in Infinity War) and before Winter Soldier happened and the Russos were involved the top three character Markus and Mcfeely wanted to tackle where MODOK (who they love), Falcon, and Sharon Carter.

SO what you're saying is there's a solid chance they'll pair sharon with falcon now

>I doubt anyone in the CC gave a shit about Sharon
Yeah Bendis was in the CC and she's one of the characters he openly shat on in the comics. The only reason Sharon is even in the comics right now is because the writers Cap has been getting like the character. Waid brought her back in the 90's after she had been killed in the 70's and Brubaker mentioned that had Waid not brought her back he would have. Coates likes Brubaker's run and he likes the character so he keeps her around.

I honestly don't know what they're going to do with her but they better just build on the character before they take that decision. But if they and they build up to it I would be OK with it, especially since Mackie has chemistry with everyone, he even had more chemistry with Evans and SebStan than they had with each other.

Markus and Mcfeely are also the reason why we had Zola in Winter Soldier and why we got a comic Zola homage.

>She's blonde because of Steve giving the old salute to Peggies womb in the new timeline.

And now that Peggy is back in comic, expect a lot of synergy! I fucking hate normies!!

I like this one. She's a good mix of badassery and cuteness.

Steve is an idiot.

I hate it so much.

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The only thing that's maybe fun to think about is Sharon and Peggy passing Steve back and forth like a sex toy. Or Steve gangbanged by the daughters of liberty. Or Peggy and Bucky cucking him. Okay, it's great from a "let's lewd Steve" perspective. And Sharon gets to be cool.

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I don't know why people continue to suck the Russos dicks when they've shafted so many characters and ruined a few others for good measure.

they churn out decent villains. a lot of earlier marvel villains suck

The Russo worship died massively after endgame though.

I still see plenty of people praising the Russos especially after Endgame outside of Yea Forums. But they've definitely lost a lot of grandstanding from fujos like the Stuckies who are still seething because they thought the Russos and Marvel would actually cater to them in the end.

The Marvel committee was already kicked out by Feige, they had no say in the movies by that point.

that's not how nieces work, user

hope to see her in a few phase 5 movies

>the call sheet for Sharon was as main female co-lead
the source?
However it would make sense. I thought it was odd that in WS:
1. Cap suddenly can't trust Widow, despite the fact they had become comrades and friends already at the Avengers time while he trust Sam, a guy that he just met.
2. The ship-tease moments between Cap and Nat that have come to nothing.

Sif also deserved better, I'm still mad at how she was treated in the movies. I hope she has in Thor 4

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Emily vancamp sexy all she need is a bigger booty

I wanna suck on her toes

He can't keep getting away with this!

Post some pics of her feet

IMO, they're trying to clean the MCU up as best they can. All bad decisions like pointless romance plots that no one really cares about have to be tied up and laid to rest. OR, at least DO something with them.

Heard a rumor Sharon will be back for the captain falcon and thunderbolts movies

You kidding? Her actress being unavailable for Thor 3 was a blessing in disguise for her. She escaped the purge.

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Ant-man The Wasp And Stature

It's Super Soldier sperm, dumbass. Having conquered Peggy, the sperm re-mobilized and entered her bloodstream: naturally, her immune system couldn't stop them. From there the sperm was ingested by a mosquito while Peggy and Steve were at a Carter family function, and the Super-Sperm took direct control of the mosquito's simple brain, piloting the thing around like a troop transport vehicle. They set their sights on Peggy's sister-in-law, the other young (and currently ovulating) female at the picnic. They piloted their hijacked ride to Peggy's sister, the mosquito bit her, and the sperm entered her bloodstream to her uterus and conquered her as well.

Any other stupid objections?

She got to fuck her uncle for years something she's clearly wanted to do for her entire life

Writers say you're wrong

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Almost like they're hacks who will literally say whatever to make the fans happy or something

You know what she deserved? An actual character arc and that delicious tight white suit
Uhh...
This, Just imagine
>Sharon and Peggy passing Steve back and forth like a sex toy. Or Steve gangbanged by the daughters of liberty.
H-Hot
>Or Peggy and Bucky cucking him.
Why would anyone want that?

Yeah sadly she never had a prayer. They decided to take the opertunity to push Widow in Winter Soldiers instead, and then when they got the go ahead to make Cap 3 Avengers 2.5 that was basically the end for her.

Plus Peggy was insanely popular and the only reason she wasn't the main love interest in every movie was because of the time jump that was too critical to his story to avoid.

Still maybe Falcon and Winter Soldier will finally give her something to do since she won't have another female to compete with anymore.

Eh that's not entirely her fault. Alexander got injured filming Thor 2 which basically sidelined her the whole film, and then she was busy with her tv show for 3. And she'd probably just have been unceremoniously killed with the rest of the Asgardians.

"Civil War" was the last movie they had influence in. In fact, disagreements between Feige and Ike over RDJ's salary in it is what led to Feige disbanding the committee.

Man, Classic Sharon is hot, but current Sharon is just an absolute GILF

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Jesus, Raimi

i can understand near every taika descision except that one. thor barely has any supporting cast, the hell was the point of killing them all off

Honestly? There was no point in them. Marvel has course corrected so much over the years despite people thinking they have shit set in stone.

They jettisoned a lot of baggage because they don't know how to write that shit and who cares when they can focus on crazy cosmic shit as opposed to subplots with a cast of characters that haven't been endeared to audiences.

Reminder that Cap cucked the Steve Rogers who was still frozen and undiscovered in the timeline created when the gem was removed, and that Steve Rogers woke up to a world that never missed him because he had been replaced by our Cap, who then stole that timeline's shield to take it back home and give it to the guy who couldn't even keep up with Cap while he jogged and got beat up by Rumslow.

that's not how it works

Sure it does.
When he went back there were two Caps existing simultaneously, one that belonged in that timeline and ours. Its been established he cant alter his present, only create new timelines. So he created a timeline for that Steve where he woke up and Peggy never needed to miss him when out Cap came back to his present.

The ONLY way where our Cap isnt a total asshole: the Steve that went into Peggy's house was past Steve, whom our Cap went to get and rescued, just so that in at least one timeline Steve and Peggy got together and he got to see it. That past Steve might've then given our Cap his shield i appreciation, maybe since past Steve would want to live out a civilian life with Peggy. Sure Cap lived to be an old man somewhere other than our own timeline, but it could have been trying to fix the fuckups that happened while they were first getting the stones (escaped Loki, etc.).

And i honestly posted this so someone with some say can redeem Cap. As it stands, he fucked over an alternate timeline version of himself.

Markus and Mc Feely wanted it to be a time loop on top of that, ffs they just didn't care about Cap anymore

what if he got the steve out of the ice and peggy had two steves to choose from

Why would she choose the older Steve that didn't belong?
And setting up the choice makes our Cap an asshole.
>im gonna wake you up and let you see your girl choose me, to say i gave you a chance

Why would she choose a guy so changed from the one he knew that also left all his friends behind when he has literally the one he knows well?
>b-but 2 instead of one!
If Present Cap told her that he came from 2023 after living 11 years and left all his friends behind there she would unironically think that the guy is HYDRA

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>I mean they even said Iron man wasn't a character that sacrificed himself when the previous movies proved them wrong.

He got a a family in Endgame and he didn't want to lose that.

Steve felt so empty inside after the Snap and the counseling meetings didn't help him at all.
Seeing Peggy again made him realize he had a chance at that dance he promised to her thanks to the time machine.

See? Things happen and characters goes trough different development.

Mostly landwhales and shipperfaggettes, nothing really surprising.

>MUH NATASHA!
>MUH STUCKY
>CLINT DESERVED TO DIE
>RUSSO ARE A PAIR OF CLOWNS

Personally i loved to see Peggy reuntied with Cap.

She got chubby in Civil War. Cap made the correct choice.

Who is this actress? She reminds me of this nude model that appears sometimes on Yea Forums in amateur stuff.

Seearch "What could have been" threads on Yea Forums archives.
She was supposed to have the role Natasha has in the final cut.

I dislike her actress got into the SJW bandwagon, she wants Sif to be the new wife for Valkyrie

I would have preferred if it was the right Cap.

If our Cap when back to rescue and wake up past Steve so he could get the dance, that's swell. Otherwise he cucked his alternate self fucking alternate Peggy AND the guy she eventually married after she moved on, because yes, she states she did marry a WWII vet despite his identity never being revealed.

At the silliest of it I think it was so that he doesn't have to keep characterizations established by previous directors and instead injecting his OC Donut Steel take on a supporting cast for Thor.

steve stuck around after returning all the stones and clipping all the branches
Endgame Cap can't change the past
as long as he didn't, it gets to be the same timeline
all the movie said was Back to the Future was bullshit, Back to the Future doesn't have timeloops
time can work in more than one way, just like quantum physicals says something can be a particle and a wave
it's pym particles, I ain't gotta explain shit

>CLINT DESERVED TO DIE
Why?

Fuck off

when you call the filmmakers hacks, I think you're forgetting what kind of audience this is
it isn't a bunch of film buffs that are critiquing the execution of a story
it's a bunch of nerds going NOT MUH COMICS, NOT MUH SHIP, NOT MUH whatever
their whining isn't a rational thing to start with, so giving these babies what they want to hear shouldn't instantly reflect back on the creators as being hacks that can't put a movie together
to me, it says a lot more about who is complaining about this stuff
it's not like Back to the Future made perfect sense either, but they're an enjoyable trilogy I'd call "good movies"

>poor outfit = get chubby
She has a chubbyness that you tard-ass faggot could only dream of.

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She cute

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At least she appeared in an MCU LEGO set

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yes, in a way.

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Man, I loved her in Revenge. It was a comfy show

I have to look for the casting call and I can't recall if backstage had it, but there were several articles that mention it was for a female lead.

>indiewire.com/2012/08/anna-kendrick-felicity-jones-imogen-poots-reportedly-in-running-for-female-lead-in-captain-america-the-winter-soldier-107001/
>collider.com/captain-america-the-winter-soldier-female-lead/

It was after they casted Mackie and actresses like Imogen Poots, Emilia Clarke, Teresa Palmer and Anna Kendricks were going for the role (Imogen Poots) but after awhile none of them got it and suddenly Van Camp got it.

She's confirmed for Winter Soldier, don't know anything about Thunderbolts.

>Plus Peggy was insanely popular
Outside of her titties I really don't get why, she's just a love interest in The First Avenger and her show was pretty boring. Also in TFA she mostly came off as a cunt after Steve was kissed by Margaery Tyrell, her shooting Steve was unwarranted too.

I guess Sharon would have had a chance if they had bothered expanding on the character and giving her something to do but what little she had they kept cutting and Atwell meanwhile got a show and more stuff to make her character popular.

They didn't have much influence on Civil War since the reason RDJ was there in the first place was because Feige fought off Ike.

To be sincere the Russos didn't care much either.

But Stark is one to make the sacrificial play and has shown before, also that is a bad example especially for Steve since the Russos have always argued that Steve doesn't change.

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Oh, I guess we just ignore this now?
Or old Steve was hiding in the closet and her dementia didn't give it away?

I never really worshipped them and never got why they got so much crazy praise. I liked Winter Soldier but a lot of what made it interesting also had to do with the choreographer and Markus and Mcfeely. But people only ever wanked them.

Fuck the shippers but the Russos also enabled them pretty badly, so they reaped what they sowed there. The only person who didn't enable them and th elandwhales were Sebastian Stan and Antony Mackie.

Go suck a cock, Iceman.

>The only person who didn't enable them and th elandwhales were Sebastian Stan and Antony Mackie.
I bad for Stan. Anytime he'd talk about his love for BuckyNat and his comic based wishes for the MCU the fujos would go rabid and "cancel" him only to suck his dick later and call him and Evans the "captains" of their ship ad nauseam when Evans never really cared for it either.

Writers also admitted they can't agree with the Russos if it was a time loop or not.
He would like that.

I feel bad*
Vancamp also got a lot of threats about the whole thing too.

what do you have to ignore about this?
>and her dementia didn't give it away?
obviously a clear headed peggy wouldn't give it away, but her having dementia doesn't guarantee she'd fuck it up
what if her dementia was making her forget Steve ever came back?

Thanks

>Emilia Clarke
We dodged a bullet on this

Evans really doesn't give a shit about a lot of stuff regarding fandom and just laughs it up. Mackie and Sebastian Stan just tell them how it is, like that one time some crazy fangirl got offended because they didn't know the name of Tom Holland's dog and Mackie was like "I didn't know he had a dog and I got a life".

Honestly both of them, Daniel bruhl, and EVC getting a bigger role are the reasons why I am looking forward to the FalconCap and Winter Soldier show.

They also spread a bunch of rumors about the Russos hating VanCamp and saying she got fired. Honestly Peggy ending up with Steve was funny if only for that. Especially since they always propped up Peggy and now they turned on the character.

>I really don't get why
I think it's because she was stuck in the past/old and demented/dead. Moreover, the actress is a stucky shipper.

>her shooting Steve
The lamest scene of the movie, really oc since Peggy was presented as an intelligent right-minded woman and a soldier, not an hysteric. On that occasion, she behaved like a rabid fangirl.

>her show was pretty boring
You take that back

>left all his friends behind

The war was over and he wanted to go home.

>and he wanted to go home.
It wasn't really that far

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>she wants Sif to be the new wife for Valkyrie

And that's bad because...?

MCU Sif never displayed any interest in Thor.

It's almost like his entire character arc was realizing he was still that guy.

>MCU Sif never displayed any interest in Thor.
try watching the Thor movies before you talk out of your ass

Prove me wrong, then.

I've never particularly liked this actress, so I don't really care.

Pic related though?
Something about her makes me care an awful lot.

>just let's erase all the character development he had and go back at square one
>that's a good thing
???
Ever read Man out of Time user?

youtube.com/watch?v=ySq2sAGERyk
youtu.be/GH48c8Z_QA8?t=48

Im with you, user.

Im hoping he just woke up an alternate Steve so in at least one reality he got to have his dance with her. Instead of being an asshole.

>Agents of SHIELD
>Canon

When will they ever learn?

Giving up on his dreams of normalcy and settling for an impending death isn't really character development. He lost and rediscovered his humanity, so to speak.

When did he lose his humanity?

Sif is Thor's sister in the MCU.

nope

Yes, Thor sees her as part of a familial unit. Thus Sif is his sister.

That's even if Sif holds unrequited romantic feelings.

He's already discovered romantic love outside of familial bonds when he gets with the PortJew.

It's over for Sif.

That's why childhood friends almost always lose these triangle situations.

He couldn't have been normal in 2023?

user, settle down and forming a family is not the bad part of it
Going back in time, cucking his alternate self for a woman who already told him to move on is what's wrong with it

People are zeroing in on "Peggy told him to move on" almost as if she didn't only do that because she was like a 100 years old and dying when he came back.

It's not his peggy.

It is.

Should everyone who returned after the Snap find a new spouse because the ones who stayed behind and got older are definitely not "their" spouse?

>because she was like a 100 years old and dying when he came back.
She literally tells him that she already lived her life and had his own husband and kids also:
>"I don't regret it, I lived my life, I regret that you didn't lived yours"
You're really dense or just baiting at this point

She deserved better

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UNF

I do not understand how people can still be arguing about this. He got the perfect ending. The actress that played peggy always believed they should end up together regardless and them getting to have a family is a just reward.

If they do another porn parody I want Sunny Lane as Sharon

>Personally I enjoyed the taste of mouse cock
Shippingfags are cancer but you're worse

Well, he DID Hail Hydra.

His arc was seeing the gray in life and that everything doesn't live up to his ideals.
>First Avenger
Sees what war is really like for the first time
>Winter Soldier
Sees the shitty game states play and how it leaves soldiers broken and forgotten
>Civil War
People are willing to give up liberty for safety even your closest friends
Cap changed over the course of the movies and pretending he didn't is disingenuous

get fucked shipper

Can't read with that rat cum on your face?

i'm not even that user, faggot
>you like a thing? YOU MUST SUCK COMPANY COCK
it's not an argument, it's not a critique, it's just reeeeing into the void

Screaming "it's just shippers" isn't an argument either. You're a mousefag or just have shit taste then

i didn't do that though, I called you a shipper because you went out of your way to say you weren't one

He matured, sure. But deciding he has nothing going on but fighting until he dies is not a good ending. Deciding that he doesn't have to lay on the wire all the time and can be happy is an appropriate resolution.

Why would someone choose Sharon when Peggy has the bigger tits?

His arc could've ended with him fighting for the future. Moving forward instead of being stuck in the past. I would've been fine if he retired with Sharon and rode off on his motorcycle after Tony's funeral. Giving up period is counter to his character

Its not either or, fuck your false dichotomy.

Hela strutting

Yet they are bringing back Natalie Portman, and with her the single worst aspect of the first Thor movies, the romance.
Those two have no chemistry and Natalie phoned it in each movie.

REVENGE!