All the "how would ____ fare in Marvel/DC" threads got me thinking
>DC crossovers with everything under the sun >Marvel never seems to
Why is that? Does Marvel just not have interest in it? Does the DC Universe just mesh more easily with outside franchises than Marvel does?
Hypothetically, could you see Marvel crossing over with things like Ninja Turtles, Scooby Doo, He-Man, Hanna Barbera, etc? Is there crossover potential there at all, or is it too closed off and self-contained for that?
(I realize that Marvel does have some crossovers under it's belt, Avengers/JL and that Transformers crossover, but by-and-large, they don't seem to bother, whereas DC does this stuff regularly)
>Why is that? Because Marvel doesn't need cheap gimmicks to stay afloat like DC does
Jason King
It needs liberal politics and legacy characters forcefully crammed full of them!
Asher Smith
Jesus just shut up
John Kelly
Joe Quesada and other Marvel higher-ups hate crossovers. They think it dilutes the Marvel brand or something. Marvel and DC had crossovers all the time until Marvel's current guard took over.
Easton Flores
Disney is probably worried that crossovers would dilute Marvel's brand.
In addition, in comic books, Marvel has stuck to one mainline canon since its conception. They've had issues where their licensed stuff was integrated into their universe, then they lost the license. I imagine crossovers would be even worse. DC is a lot looser with its canon.
Andrew Harris
Mostly because, until a few years ago, DC was owned by an entertainment superpower and Marvel was independent.
We'll see how this changes under Disney's stewardship.
Lucas Cook
marvel is just really protective with their ip's and they're incredibly frugal nowadays. crossovers require licenses and those cost money. a lot of dc's crossover are with ip's that wb already owns. idk why marvel hasn't bother to do more crossovers with disney ip's. they did it with phineas and ferb.
>We'll see how this changes under Disney's stewardship. Doesn't seem like it'll change any time soon. Disney doesn't even seem to trust Marvel to handle Disney comics.
Nathan Clark
I think Marvel used to do crossover more often. There was an X-Men/Star Trek TNG crossover but around the mid-2000s they just seemed to stop.
I think editorial saw it as a cheap gimmick.
Jordan James
Yeah. I'm pretty sure this right here.
Aren't they bringing in IDW to make kid friendly comics now?
Kayden Parker
Because DC is THE superhero universe.
All other heroes and brands are just waiting to be assimilated, very much like Shazam, Plastic Man, Blue Beetle, WildCATS and on and on.
I still remember Marvel and Attack on Titan crossover, so no thank you
Chase Johnson
Because when Marvel crosses over with shit it's to get that sweet sweet defense contractor money When DC does it you get some goofy shit with the mascot for a fried chicken joint
To elaborate on my point Marvel seems to take shit way too seriously, most of their shit is super pretentious and seems like it's trying to be way more than it actually is and when they do actually try to do some shit it seems like it's only to push and agenda or to try and bilk people out of their money for a lackluster product
DC on the other hand seems to more readily acknowledge that comicbooks are inherently stupid and filled with goofy bullshit that only makes sense through the lens of the medium and the superhero genre itself, they seem way more willing to have fun with their product when given the chance to ignore continuity
In mine it actually functions as advertised and is a shining Golden Age version of itself instead of being a massive megacorp feeding of the backs of consumers and attempting to assimilate every other company in existence like it is in the real world
Easton Martinez
Fuck off Ladderfag. You have been spamming this for years
Gabriel Walker
Uhm...that Spider-Man and Disney Jessie crossover?
marvel used to do it in past but not as much anymore. Things like Transformers, Conan and Godzilla were once part of the MU.
Juan Gutierrez
Yup, it's this. Same reason why they still charge more for their comics and trades despite using cheaper materials and including fewer pages. They consider themselves a "premium brand" compared to DC, basically they follow the Apple strategy.
Aiden Brooks
Marvel had a few with these 2, it just needs one with Mickey and the gang and The Simpsons each.
>that fucking Hulk I miss when Hulk was a giant monster instead of a slightly taller than average dude.
Hunter Foster
What do you expect it was animated in Korea. Hence why this was brought up... >There is no point in animating in Korea, because you get nothing creative out of it. (Studio Mir excluded). They are really there just to move model sheets from one position on the screen to another. >What we call Korean animation is really just inbetweening. >If you do send them specific customized key poses (which most studios don't) they won't use them anyway. Or even if they do they will tone them down so badly that it takes all the life out of the cartoons. >This causes you to lose a lot of time and money in retakes. >BUT! The problems with trying to get service studios to use the work you send them are so immense and expensive that it has finally dawned on me that it's not worth it. We don't care whether the service studio is in Korea or a block away.
Benjamin Harris
Oh yeah, that was a thing.
Jack Evans
DC I think owns or at least has stake in their copyrights.
Marvel almost went bankrupt only about 20 years ago. They had to sell off some of their properties just to stay alive. DC did not.
Andrew Gomez
>that pic This is just not funny anymore.
Leo Rivera
goddamnit they all seem so happy. sign of the times i guess....
>Still has Star Wars, Frozen 2 and Maleficent 2 to release this year hory shet
Ryder Phillips
Space Ghost needs to be the main continuity. He's perfect to crossover with Green Lantern, which they've done before.
Cameron Sullivan
The problem is that Space Ghost is much cooler than Green Lantern, so you run into the Shazam!/Superman problem again.
Jackson Hill
What can Space Ghost do again? The only thing I remember from his old cartoon is that he doesn't fight women.
Michael Allen
It’s their right to do that.
John Richardson
Space Ghost Invisibility, Flight, Heat/Freeze/Energy beams
Green Lantern Essentially Anything. "Why isn't Green Lantern using the Ring to do _______? He's done it 3 times before, and it would resolve this pretty quickly." "Because story, lel!"
Camden Wood
Marvel never did a reboot? I always thought they did just as many as DC.
Also, I always thought crossovers were just considered as not canon?
Eli Anderson
>I always thought they did just as many as DC. Not even close.
Ian James
WHERE'S PLASTIC MAN?!?!
Caleb Nelson
It's not even just those Duck comics. Big Hero Six and Star Wars Adventures were done under IDW
Not even in a mean way. Lurk more. Comfy fandom imagination gone right
Carter Sanders
WB owns a huge amount of properties so it isn't that strange that DC does crossovers all the time. I think Disney don't wanna mix their properties outside of small cheap cartoon crossovers like the Phineas and Ferb Marvel specials and such.
Levi Perry
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Jackson Miller
MCUck cornered by DChads suicide is your only option
Elijah Rodriguez
>Marvel never seems to Godzilla and TMNT
Anthony Price
Well, it feels like it.
Jaxson Rodriguez
I still wonder how this came to be, I mean what disney exec has looked at a concept of Kingdom Hearts and said "yeah, this is a perfect crossover material for our property"
Carter Jenkins
>Joe Quesada and other Marvel higher-ups hate crossovers.
This.
Marvel considers themselves the top dogs and that they'll never need to cross over with DC even if it was fun and/or profitable.
Jim Shooter basically sabotaged the first attempt at a JLA/Avengers since he felt it really didn't gain them anything after TT/X-Men.
When they tried again Marvel was still recovering from the 90's and editorial was more relaxed.
Then Joey Q took over with his burning hate boner for DC and thats the end of it until he finally moves up or out.
You should familiarize yourself with what Warner Brothers/AT&T owns.
Marvel crosses over with stuff- Attack On Titan. Spider-Man crossed over with Invincible. The avengers crossed over with Top Cow. Spider-Man crossed over with Red Sonja twice. Spider-Man also crossed over with gen 13, Badrock, Hulk with The Pitt and The Darkness Daredevil with Shi and Magdalene
Punisher with Archie, Witchblade, painkiller Jane and fucking Eminem The X-Men and star trek, wildcats...
There's a lot. They've slowed down in recent years, but they still come.
Gabriel Johnson
Disney had previously bought BOOM! To handle their comics and they have different distribution goals.
Love them or hate them, Disney is probably the great white hope of destroying Diamond.
Brody Bell
IIRC it was literally the result of two corporate guys bumping into one another back when Square was at the top of their game
Noah Foster
Space Ghost looks cooler though
Blake Brooks
Neither of those are recent....though I wish we could get a new Godzilla crossover
Daniel Ward
(YOU)
Jordan Nelson
Didn't Quesada mouth off leading to the next Green Lantern/Silver Surfer crossover getting shitcanned or something like that? I remember there was a blogpost or something that pretty much killed all good will between the two on a corporate level but I can't find it right now.
Jace Rogers
That soulless abomination of a Lion King movie is probably going to be the highest grossing film of all time and it turns my stomach.
James Thomas
You know Conan the fucking Barbarian is actually on the Avengers right now?
Asher Thomas
Quesada leaving DC made Didio very angry. There was something more to it than just that, but Didio considers Quesada a "backstabber" if I remember correctly. Didio said no more crossovers until Quesada is gone. Quesada isn't in the comics anymore, but he's still at marvel. Don't know what it would take for Didio to channel his inner Elsa.
Gavin Martin
Vastly
Jose Hill
Not if Comcast, Verizon and AT&T stayed.
It would almost certainly make things worse, as hard as that is to believe.
But we'll see after Disney+ has been around for a year, it might be worth it then
Josiah Anderson
Your post implies the latter wasn't paid for by KFC.
Luke Perez
Shitty fanfic.
Xavier Sullivan
Oh they were both corporate propaganda pieces no doubt But I think we can all agree that that Northrop Grumman shit feels significantly grosser than pic related
>idk why marvel hasn't bother to do more crossovers with disney ip's. they did it with phineas and ferb. >Dr Doomenschmirtz creates the Infinity Gauntlet-inator, unwittingly working for Thanos >He must be stopped by Fury the Platypus
Thomas Carter
I like the MCU and want to see it last a while, but it is a shame that one finding success means the other can't even get off the ground.
Wyatt Johnson
Quesada was fired from DC back in the 1990s, long before Didio was on the scene.
Mason Ramirez
I’m pretty sure that Quesada got pissed when Azrael got cancelled and then went to Marvel, he didn’t get fired. Once he started running Marvel Knights and became EiC, he started talking a lot of shit about DC which pissed off Levitz. It was him that said that DC wouldn’t do crossovers with Marvel until Quesada no longer worked for Marvel.
John Gray
>I’m pretty sure that Quesada got pissed when Azrael got cancelled
Quesada hadn't done any work for DC since 1994. Azrael didn't even have an ongoing yet, because he was mainly showing up in the Batman titles during the Knightfall/Knightsend stuff.
