Remember when jhonen vasquez hated the same self righteous sycophants who bitch and whine over activism? Me too...

>slice of life
Live in America, get shot, etc

>There's nothing wrong with activism.
Everythings wrong with being a self righteous annoyance who wants to dick stroke their ego by flaunting how much theyre a better person they are then their peers because they donated money to the poor blacks or something.

Am I missing something or are you just going full seethe because a cartoonist triggered you with a topical joke about American conservatards?

>conservatards
>>>/twitter/

How old are you? Whens the last time you believed information outside of shit you read on here?

Is there anything you believe in, user?

Owning the libs.

>Whens the last time you believed information outside of shit you read on here?
You kidding me? I learnt why so called activists are the most insufferable people through life itself. The difference between them is that i at least admit i dont care about total strangers, they want to feign compassion in some misguided popularity contest, trying to show off who has the bigger activist dick in order for more IRL (you)s and accolades. Its not even contained to the left, look at all those bleeding heart faggots crying over some unborn rugrats. Activists fucking disgust me.

What happened to your cartoon pilot Jhonen? Did it get picked up Jhonen? Haven't heard anything about it for a while now Jhonen. Did people only like you for your edginess back then, perhaps, Jhonen?

>i at least admit i dont care about total strangers
Do you think this makes you better than other people?

Dilate ans seethe.
Anyway I will take that as a yes.

>Do you think this makes you better than other people?
No but it makes me less irritating

Reminder that many places that ban guns also ban body armor.

Yet here you are, being a whiny bitch. Doesn't seem to have worked out for you the way you think.

>also ban body armor.
Literally for what reason would anyone do that?

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>complaining about the annoying thing makes you worse than the annoying thing

every time

Do you think charities function entirely on the public donations of shitty celebrities? I mean clearly you're dense but a vast majority of activists get no popularity or recognition for their work belond a simple"That's nice" in a forgettable conversation. Please understand your lack of empathy and compassion is not remotely normal.

You don't consider non-irritating people to be better than irritating?

>I'm not annoying
>Yes you are.
>NO I'M NOT REEEEE REEEE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Wow you really convinced me that you're not annoying user good job.
Dumb faggot.

>Do you think charities function entirely on the public donations of shitty celebrities? I mean clearly you're dense but a vast majority of activists get no popularity or recognition for their work belond a simple"That's nice" in a forgettable conversation. Please understand your lack of empathy and compassion is not remotely normal.
>muh empathy
Its a superiority complex for subhumans like you, same reason why feminism is so cancerous now because millennial women have a superiority complex and want to vent their man hating impulses in a coordinated and destructive way. Its that type of thinking that gets the “youre not empathetic enough” because some faggot thinks some bleeding heart insults will coerce people into doing what they want.

The push for gun control is to ensure state dominance in preparation for a surveillance state. It's not about keeping people safe, it's about keeping people subjugated. Less body armor for civilians = less protection. Same with guns.

Can't criticize anything in that case

You're clearly just a kid if you think something stops being correct just because it's "irritating". You're more concerned with how some anonymous people on the internet treat you (also an anonymous person) than you are about real people dying in real life. It's typical teenager self-centeredness, except you have to be over 18 to post on this website, so you're just pathetically immature.

You sure do seem to focus on the "superiority complex" of other people while also calling me subhuman. Implying that you think you are better me fundamentally better than me. Doesn't that seem hypocritical of you?

Yeah I really feel much safer having some random white supremacist kill 9 people in under a minute.

People don't care about any sort of logic when it comes to gun control, they just want internet points from their peers. That's what's irritating about the situation.

Also your arguments are basically text versions of the 'I AM SILLY' comics. You ought to stop trying.

>You're clearly just a kid if you think something stops being correct just because it's "irritating". You're more concerned with how some anonymous people on the internet treat you (also an anonymous person) than you are about real people dying in real life. It's typical teenager self-centeredness, except you have to be over 18 to post on this website, so you're just pathetically immature.
>WAGHHHHHHHHH BUT MUH PEOPLE ARE DYING SO YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO ME
This is the exact type of annoying mentality that makes you swine so offputting to regular people. I do t fucking give a rats ass about the majority of the world, hell certain so called “victims” of these mass shootings clearly deserved it too (ie: emma gonzalez), and your attitude stinking up the news and sinking into media just makes me wish that you become the next victim of a national tragedy.

>to regular people.
But user, you don't speak for regular people.

What is the government doing to stop these shootings? They are only helping to increase them so far. You need to stop believing they have your best interests in mind.

>But user, you don't speak for regular people.
Neither do you, social justice shithead

Based and youngpilled

You made the claim, though.

So caring for things makes you childish, not caring for anything makes you an adult?

>So caring for things makes you childish, not caring for anything makes you an adult?
Being a bleeding heart faggot makes you a snowflake toddler, yes

forming your opinions exclusively around what's popular makes you a child, like a school boy trying to get in the in-crowd.

Im not talking about gun control anymore, little man. Im talking about you and your shitty, emotional, hypocritical logic. Also my arguments have been based on your responses far, none of which you have actually responded by the way. Other than some regurgitated slurs and internet terms nobody uses or believes in beyond Yea Forums

You realize that we already exist under a surveillance state, right?

If owning a gun helps numb you to the reality of it, then I guess that's fine.

you are a complete waste, being online has rotten your goddamn brain. Go outside.

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Do you think caring for the victims of mass shootings is childish?

All I've said so far is that you can complain about vapid socialites attempting to gain social capital through regurgitating the popular opinion.

more than one person is replying to you because you're an idiot and nobody is countering your arguments because you haven't made any valid ones

user, it costs fucking nothing to say mass shootings are bad.

Caring for the things and people around you isn't whats popular. Its a fundamental part of being a human being and a cornerstone of humanities progress. Nobody gets a medal and a pat on the back for doing the very basic of what is expected

>Do you think caring for the victims of mass shootings is childish?
You have never met nor have any association to these people, yes it is childish to feign sadness for total strangers for popularity points.

post this on twitter. you can't get any likes here. sorry

>Its a fundamental part of being a human being and a cornerstone of humanities progress.
You forgot your clap emojis you fucking millennial shitbag.

>nobody gets a medal and a pat on the back
It's that little heart icon, the follower count, it's a measurable unit. They want the number to increase. It makes them feel accepted.

>feign
wew

>nobody is countering your arguments because you haven't made any valid ones
You're welcome to complain about any perceived problem you have my man. Just be consistent and self aware at the very least. And I'm not the only one replying to you in this thread man.

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>you're welcome to complain
at least you conceded your original argument to (my) post. Thanks now please leave

Let's consider whether it's real or feigned, then. If it's feigned, one would expect it to manifest in response to people talking about it (on social media, say). If one actually cared about such things and felt genuine sadness, that person would be expected to keep track of such things independently of news or social media fads. So a question. This last weekend, were more people shot in the widely-reported mass shootings, or in the business-as-usual shootings in Chicago?

Hes right tho; The whole "too soon to talk" argument is bullshit and both sides of the retard game use it to stall.

>You already get fucked in the ass you surely wont mind having something else up there
Actual shit-for-brains

Compassion and empathy are not new concepts. They didn't suddenly appear with the invention of facebook. You think we got to where we are through exclusive rape and murder, you insufferable sacks of filth? You think that massive social, political and scientific progress was done by sheer force of malice?

No, but again society didnt come to be from lying self righteous narcissist who lord over other people by screaming “YOU ARENT EMPATHETIC ENOUGH LIKE I AM”.

>this thread
Jesus Christ, is Yea Forums getting its first mass shooter?

I'll agree that he's right to say the problem should be addressed. The issue I have is that it's incredibly obvious which side he's chosen, because this is a very common way of strawmanning everyone who says we should look at the facts.

People against gun control want to know exactly how the person acquired his weapon. If it was illegal, that hurts the argument for gun control considerably. Leftists always try to obscure this little, crucial tidbit of information because they want to focus on the knee-jerk reaction of "oh people dead, GUN LAWS NOW"

I dont agree with them but you are a fucking retard too
>You think that massive social, political and scientific progress was done by sheer force of malice?
Actually yes, mostly, anger and war get shit done moreso than goodwill, open a book you dumbshit fairy

Someone wasnt here for randy stair

>First
Somebody tell him

don't we already have the guy obsessed with Ember from danny phantom

I want to remind you that we got to space through a dick-measuring contest with russia, and we haven't been since.

They way in which you care is what makes it childish

It doesn't matter. Under the system we live under anything can be profitized and is highly incentivized to do so. Media became diversified because they wanted to attract a wider audience, but it still has a positive impact socially. The outcome is what matters. Imagine going through all members of the civil rights movement and grilling them and questioning their motives. Nobody cares. If people repeating popular sentiment can pressure Congress to take action against right wing extremism and gun violence, good

>Being a bleeding heart faggot makes you a snowflake toddler, yes
Good thing that's not hat he is doing, then.

Explain, oh galaxy brained user

It completely is though
>right wing extremism
Reeeing at guns because you want twitter votes makes you a conceited douchebag, faggot

Most charities are scams. Africa is kept poor thanks mostly to charities taking money away while simultaneously making people think they have already done something to help.

>society didnt come to be from lying self righteous narcissist who lord over other people by screaming “YOU ARENT EMPATHETIC ENOUGH LIKE I AM”.
Well, it's mostly not the case, so what's your issue, there?

Making a strawman comic and showing it to the world is childish dude

>It completely is though
How so?
>Reeeing at guns because you want twitter votes
It's time you grow up and accept that sometimes, the reason people express opinions you disagree with is because that's their actual opinion, not for the sake of popularity.

>It's time you grow up and accept that sometimes, the reason people express opinions you disagree with is because that's their actual opinion, not for the sake of popularity.
Wether theyre actually retarded or playing retarded to win points doesnt make it less retarded, champ

He's gonna shoot em all cause he's Tranny Phantom
gonna shoot em all cause he's Tranny Phantom
gonna shoot em all cause he's TRANNY PHANTOM

>Wether theyre actually retarded or playing retarded to win points doesnt make it less retarded,
Except you haven't established what is retarded about OP.

I'm not saying war wasn't a major contributor to the progress of men, many wars were inspired through compassion and empathy. Compassion towards your homeland and family. Empathy for your nations allies and such. I just hate this guys way of thinking. What soldier would die for a country filled with people he hates? For his sweetheart back home who he believes will cheat while he's gone? On who would go just for an excuse to kill, and theyre no soldier at all. Just a dog

Because jhonen has sold out his vision and integrity to become a gun control bleeding heart.

Sure it does, but how do you know that are you omniscient? And why do you care? Your argument boils down to "But these people are insincere". How do you know that?

What can they do?, hate speech and automatic weapons are already illegal and heavily discouraged

What's retarded about jhonens comic is that its a strawman of people asking for the facts. People on his side want to obscure the detail of whether or not the gun was acquired through legal means, so they use this to evade what hurts their push for harsher gun laws.

>It doesn't matter
The thing is, it does. If people are feigning sadness to score social capital, their supported policy proposals will be tailored to signal virtue rather than fixing the problem. Vaguely-defined "action against right-wing extremism and gun violence" is fashionable, but what are the underlying causes of the undesirable state of affairs? Will the proposals actually fix things? Do you think that the problem of "right-wing extremism" would be solved by shutting people with undesirable views out of public discourse and telling them that their concerns are not just irrelevant but morally wrong? Do you think that violence would go down if law-abiding people were prevented from having guns?

>Your argument boils down to "But these people are insincere". How do you know that?
Their way of acting gives it away

Its fucking bizarre how you oscillate between crying about hate and glorifying the motives for war. Are you just trying to say that what matters is that you do something because of love? Because theres a saying for that...

>Because jhonen has sold out his vision and integrity
How so?
>become a gun control bleeding heart.
This isn't about bleeding heart, this is about seeing an issue and trying to find a a way to make things better. Better background check is supported bu the vast majority of Americans and two bi-artisans bill have passed the house already.

>Do you think that the problem of "right-wing extremism" would be solved by shutting people with undesirable views out of public discourse and telling them that their concerns are not just irrelevant but morally wrong?
If anything actions like these will create more mass shootings.

>This isn't about bleeding heart, this is about seeing an issue and trying to find a a way to make things better.
So a bleeding heart then?

Think about this: when you make a post on twitter, what are you hoping to achieve? The likes and retweets obviously. But if you were sincere about your opinion, and knew that millions of people had made not only a similar, but the EXACT same argument, why even make the post? Just retweet someone else.

>is that its a strawman of people asking for the facts.
No, it isn't. Its not a strawman, because people actually say that. And it's not asking for facts, it's saying to remin silence and not talk about the issue under the guise of "respect". He is calling out people who don't even want to debate about it. How is this selling out?
>People on his side want to obscure the detail of whether or not the gun was acquired through legal means
He hasn't been guilty of that.

>So a bleeding heart then?
Nope, That not what bleeding heart is about.

what people often say is "let's wait for the facts to come out before we jump to conclusions" thats not being silent, that's being pragmatic.

>? The likes and retweets obviously. But if you were sincere about your opinion, and knew that millions of people had made not only a similar, but the EXACT same argument, why even make the post?
Those kind of thread have been made a millons times already, why even make a new one?

Because people want to express yourself and only a moron would attempt to paint that as an act of bad faith.

>Africa is kept poor thanks mostly to charities taking money away
It's actually from free charity-given goods preventing local people from establishing local businesses to meet local needs. The low average IQ doesn't help, but counterproductive charity is what shifts economic incentives to prevent development by people who are otherwise willing and able. It's like the saying: Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach him to fish, and feed him for a lifetime. Deliver a fish to his house every day for generations, and produce a society in which people only know how to live on handouts.

Yep, it is

>what people often say is "let's wait for the facts to come out before we jump to conclusions"
But that is not what the comic in OP is about. So basically you are a moron who fail at reading comprehension and get easily triggered by people who don't even say the things that trigger them. Alright.

How so?

It's actually being kept poor by corporations who poor money on corrupt governments so they can keep exploiting those country without Africans getting anything n return.

Which is how we know that the people pushing for that are insincere.

Think to the potato salad kickstarter. One joke kickstarter got actual money from a bunch of people, so a bunch of imitations popped up shortly after trying to capitalize on the same thing.

People who use arguments like the OP comic aren't forming their own unique opinions, they see an opinion that gets a lot of social capital and realize that maybe if they do the same thing they can also get attention. How is that not in bad faith?

I believe love and hate are equally crucial and but lopsidedly volatile.Love is beautiful and the spice of life and all that hippie shit, but it pales in comparison to the hard boot of war in terms of getting any kind of shit done. Hates gotta be contained, channeled. Like a unruly beast of burden. This guys spouting his shit in all directions and being a sloppy idiot all the while

It's not the same thing because it's a strawman. Do you know what a strawman is? it's a misrepresentation of an argument. That's exactly what the OP comic is focusing on.

This sounds like concern trolling, if the FBI would identify these people as terrorists like Trump is trying to do for Antifa, which you probably wouldn't object to. Then they can study their ideology and find out how they radicalize. What is the benefit of letting this toxic ideology fester? Shutting Alex jones out worked, he is beyond irrelevant. These aren't regular people they slip through the cracks, they have histories of violent behavior and one of them was even dishonorably discharged and was still allowed to buy a weapon. If you think certain rights are off the table at the detriment to society that's fine, but I don't agree.

They are fucked for many reasons, the point is that charities actually do more harm than good.

So you are super butthurt because they think virtue signalling is vapid but you have no problem assuming they must be just hatemongers because they hate something? You dont know them dude

>It's not the same thing because it's a strawman
Again, no, it isn't. There are people who actually say that.

>Do you know what a strawman is?
Putting a flawed argument in the mouth of your opponent and then attacking that flawed argument instead of what he is actually saying.

Seeing that there are people who effectively say this, it is not a strawamn fallacy.

>it's a misrepresentation of an argument.
It was not misrepresented.

>the point is that charities actually do more harm than good.
Most don't.

Everyone has said everything. They choose the weaker versions of an argument to focus in, because it's easier to attack. Nobody in the world think we should just not talk about an event.

Pure deflection.

>This sounds like concern trolling
You sound like a fag, irrelevant but so is this part of your reply
>Then they can study their ideology and find out how they radicalize.
They have already done this..., they have been doing it since WW2 ended idiot
>Shutting Alex jones out worked
What it accomplished besides less people buying water filters?
>If you think certain rights are off the table at the detriment to society that's fine, but I don't agree.
Same goes for you

Are you really trying to equivocate gang violence, that is barely reported on to a nationally reported mass shooting hate crime?

Janis should be a little more vigilant since we're approaching election year. This thread being evidence

the level of media focus is exactly what he's talking about. People don't care about things unless they are trending and they can get likes for talking about it

>If you think certain rights are off the table at the detriment to society that's fine, but I don't agree.
When certain rights are specified by the Constitution, they really are off the regular table. Actually changing them would take a Constitutional Amendment. But perhaps you were talking about morality rather than legality. What do you think about birthright citizenship combined with universal suffrage?

I note that you didn't answer the question. If you need a news headline to tell you about the normal reality of gun violence in the US, perhaps you don't actually care very much about the issue.

Why does it matter? No one has been able to answer me this question. What does their supposed insincerity mean to you? Is it because they want gun control in response to these events? Why do you care?

He's not a hatemongler, he is a hatemongoloid. He just brings up random groups he hates to compare them to me or just call me one without answering any of questions or arguments. He's just spouting buzzwords he heard in some infographic or youtube video. I don't need to assume anything about a man who has laid himself plainly on the table

A reminder that activism is nothing more than a government tool to distract you from the pointlessness of your shitty life by pretending anything you do matters.

>Couldn’t get more work in the animation industry because of years of calling people homophobic and racial slurs
>Force to return to make more invader Zim after shifting Zim fans for years to have a new career
>Bitching about leftwing politics on twitter
How soon until SJW on twitter eat him alive or #MEtoo him? With his history. He should stay away from anything political. Especially if half the John K 2.0 stories are true.

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Well, do you care about people being shot, or do you care about looking virtuous on social media?

You sure did, you want a gold star for that?
It's deflection because your a terrorist apologist.

I care because they don't care and it's annoying to be constantly barraged with vapid non-arguments like the OP comic.

Hopefully after EtF is released because it might actually be good and I don't want it pulled

You're a definition of a self-righteous twat up his own ass, you realize that right? People don't like it when you tell them to they should live their lives.

>birthright citizenship combined with universal suffrage
How are these things a detriment to society? Also prisoners and illegals aren't allowed to vote. Actually our democracy functions more like an oligarchy.

You say that like you are any better buddy

wouldn't it be more accurate if the guy was hit by a car?
I mean, it happens way more often than a mass shooting.

>It's deflection because your a terrorist apologist.
What the fuck are going on about?

Same. But that other user right. Jhonen a self-hating Hispanic that shat on Mexican people for years. Twitter probably the last place he wants to be. Calling people spics and cunts at work tends to backfire on creators.

>They choose the weaker versions of an argument to focus in,
>Nobody in the world think we should just not talk about an event.
Nothing in this comic indicate it attacks people who want to think about it rationally. "respectful silence" is more a jab toward "thoughts and prayers" gabbers and those who complain that it is not the time to talk about it.

Once again, you misread the strip and made a point to be triggered about something that wasn't there.

>wouldn't it be more accurate if the guy was hit by a car?
Excepting a literal racist to be logical?

Hey, if black science man can do it then I'm sure other people can too.

"thoughts and prayers" are just a generic wish-you-well type thing. The average person can't seriously impact this trend. The only reason to hate on it is because you think everyone should be using it as a vehicle for political agenda like you are.

See >What does their supposed insincerity mean to you? Is it because they want gun control in response to these events? Why do you care?
I live in the US, and I would prefer it to be a nice place. That means fixing problems. If policy discussions are dominated by virtue signalers concerned with scoring social points rather than fixing things, the problems won't be fixed. Did you know that there were fewer mass shootings back when people could order fully-automatic machine guns through mail catalogues? In the US, do places with stricter gun control tend to have more or fewer murders? Do you know anything about Mexico's gun regulation and crime? The focus on a vague method ("gun control") rather than the specific underlying causes of particular events shows that the goal is not to prevent future events.

Black of science becoming black /pol/ after being feminist tried to #MEtoo him. How would Vhonen Vasquez handle being #Metoo?

Context? He's not making these comics or publishing in book format seriously, is he? He just needs to understand Zim was his only claim to fame and he will never outdo that.

Jhonen is one of those guys that would admit to false rape accusations because he too beta to defend himself.

He would be annhilated, hes too white and he made JtHM which is already a bad track record

>illegals aren't allowed to vote
But their children are. There are enough of them that they're substantially shifting demographics in many places. The major parties have realized this, and have adopted strategies to accommodate it. If this continues, it will lead to Balkanization as immigrants and their descendants form cultural and voting blocs at odds with the native population.

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>He just needs to understand Zim was his only claim to fame and he will never outdo that.
I do like Johnny the Homicidal Maniac. But I can’t but to feel like he isn’t more grateful for invader Zim like he should be. Nickelodeon okayed a cartoon made by him. Yet he called his boss a cunt. Most artists are not that lucky.

>you only show despair for multiple mass shootings in one weekend for attention
Imagine being this edgy

Showing despair isnt the problem, it's the exploitation of it for political gain, and people will regurgitate arguments in that vain because they see it will get them attention

>The thing is, it does. If people are feigning sadness to score social capital, their supported policy proposals will be tailored to signal virtue
Once again you have to accept people have opinions you disagree with of their own, not for the sake of scoring points. Complaining about "virtue signalling" is just a cheap deflect that allow to not adress the point expressed.

If a proposal is bad, it is bad on its own and has to be attacked on its own flaws, not on where it stem from. Alternatively, a good idea remain a good idea, regardless of the reason it was proposed and has to be taken on its own merit.

Attacking an idea with genetic fallacy (attacking where the idea stem for rather than the idea itself) is just a cheap deflect.

>He would be annhilated, hes too white and he made JtHM which
I have a feeling Pan pizza not pursuing a cartoon pitch because he knows he could get #MEtoo by just acting creepy for comedy. Mr enter one of the few people #Metoo proof because no one believe he could be interesting in sex. Plus Mr enter already dealt with a stalker in police records that tried to fuck him.

>But their children are. There are enough of them that they're substantially shifting demographics in many places.
And? Texas used to be a blue state, but many other americans from the middle states moved to texas, which resulted in a switch of color.

Same things here.

and kids who were born in the US are also Americans. They get their education and cutltural upbringing here. (unless the government decide to go cheap on school).

That may have been his high point, but Johnny the Homicidal Maniac did well enough that Jhonen was given a cartoon to play with.

>it's the exploitation of it for political gain
Except you haven't established it isn't simply his own opinion yet.
Also, see

If they are regurgitating an existing argument, per the comment you replied to, then it's not their own opinion.

>it has to be an original opinion for it to matter
Well that would make your opinion null too.

>if you are not as much of a bleeding heart as me you are edgy
Imagine being this simple

>opinions can't be shared
Now you are just arguing in bad faith.

You're likely responding to an NPC who thinks consuming MSM propaganda constitutes "being informed about issues".

>showing emotion distress at the loss of human life is a bleeding heart
Try "most basic human reaction," you reptile brain.

>Imagine being this edgy
Speaking of edgy. Why does the cartoon review community on YouTube give jhonen a free pass yet they go after John K before people found out he was a pedophile? They both used gay as an insult. But go on racist rants. Both use self-harm and suicide as cheap shock humor.

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But its not a good idea

>it will lead to Balkanization as immigrants and their descendants form cultural and voting blocs at odds with the native population.
Cool. I made it back to the turn of the 20th century. Now I can invent uber and be madly wealthy.

>calling someone an NPC instead of addressing their point
Genetic fallacy again.

Nobody said anything about racism.
Are you okay? Are you feeling victimized?

>only my subjective experience is valid and I will readily reduce your status as human if you doubt it or criticize it
yikes

>>showing emotion distress at the loss of human life is a bleeding heart
yes. Especially strangers. You only pretend to care for the attention you'll get from the people who'll listen to you. You will never feel for them the same you will when your parent dies. "empathy" is a myth, something religion and now politics pushes to keep you obedient and generous to their cause

>Attacking an idea with genetic fallacy (attacking where the idea stem for rather than the idea itself) is just a cheap deflect.
That's not what I'm doing. You actually have it backwards. It goes more like this:
1. In response to a mass shooting, social media blows up with calls for "gun control".
2. Since the evidence is in, freely available, and clear that the availability of guns is unrelated to the incidence of violence, and since there has not yet been an investigation into what actually led to the specific shooting in question, it is obvious that such calls are not made to actually fix whatever problems led to the shooting.
3. It's possible that the people making those calls actually believe that "gun control" would fix things, but since a cursory examination of the actual evidence shows otherwise, they clearly don't care enough to inform themselves about the issue.
4. As such, even among these people, we can conclude that their desire to be viewed as virtuous on social media is a stronger motivator than actually fixing things, since otherwise they would have informed themselves before joining a chorus of righteous indignation.

>beep boop

You can share an opinion, you can agree with someone. The average person doesn't see an argument and think "maybe I should look into this a bit further" they see the surface of the argument and if they are successfully appealed to they latch onto it regardless of any sort of logic.

Within certain social circles, ideas are nearly uniform, and people will gravitate toward the beliefs that their peers hold, and won't think any further on it, because doing so will only be to their detriment from a social standpoint.

That's the type of thing we're seeing, just on a global scale, because social media has connected us in that way and the average person hasn't evolved to match our technology

Because John K was being a massive windbag who was constantly antagonizing modern animators

>downplaying jhonen well known racist rants because he calling for gun control

Do you have brain damage? Human reaction and fear of death is not subjective.

>empathy is a myth
Spoken like a true edgy retard.

Biggest irony of John K. He wasn’t wrong when he talk about the business side of things.

nice try stonetoss.

LIBTARDS PWNED FR*CKIN EPIC STYLE
SJW PWNED HECK YEAH

This is your mind on clickbait bullshit

Isn't the majority of clickbait from leftwing sites though?

None of the top three promotes violence to whites

But it is, are you really so materialistic as to think people all across the board fear death? Your worldview is black and white

But the US-born children are native.

>None of the top three promotes violence to whites
>die cis scum
>white lives don’t matter
>Kill all men
You ether blind or stupid.

Says the retard who believes in MSM

I don't care about woke bullshit, stop moving the goalposts and accept your buzzword bullshit isn't an argument

When it does come up, they move the goalposts from legality to morality anyway. The only weapon in a lefty arsenal once law comes into play is to appeal to subjectives.

>nice try stonetoss
>Don’t have an argument
>Delete someone post because it’s challenges you
Yea Forums is /leftypol/

I'm not him, I know he's an idiot. You choose to reply to him when I'm over here trying to talk sense, so that's your own fault

You know the artist is clearly warping it

oh do I now?

Ironically, that's how Texas became Texas in the first place.

Virtue signalling is woke bullshit

I hate that mentality that whenever you criticize the right wing it's always met with "WHAT ABOUT X PART OF THE LEFT"

>Same things here.
Except, this time, the people moving in have a different language and substantially different culture. Those things matter. Remember the Biblical story of the Tower of Babel? The point was to give an explanation for different languages and to warn against hubris, but consider how it conveys those messages. It was obvious even in those days that societies could not function if they were too diverse. Linguistic diversity is particularly damaging to societal unity. Quebec has come to violence in its secession debate, and most everyone there is bilingual. There are places (largely former black neighborhoods, so news organizations don't cover them much) where everyone speaks Spanish, and people who don't speak Spanish can't get a job. And because they can form these monocultural neighborhoods, the people there don't assimilate into American culture. In so doing, they recreate many of the problems Mexico faces, like gang violence, that derive from a dysfunctional culture.

You mean like you just did for the left by bringing up right wing youtube clickbait?

>Portland and black lives matter rallies
>Not calling for violence against whites
Journalists wrote a fluff piece over black lives matter we want dead cops chants.
thenationalsentinel.com/2019/07/02/portland-mayor-claims-he-didnt-order-cops-to-stand-down-in-face-of-antifa-andy-ngos-lawyer-blasts-him/

msnbc.com/the-reid-report/the-truth-about-the-dead-cops-chant

We learned texas history in public school down here, too. I always found it a bit strange.
>We immigrate to country
>complain about country
>instead of going back we start shit and eventually secede
basically an invasion. The weird thing is though, we shouldn't treat this as an example of why we should accept immigrants. Same with the "we invaded native americans' land" argument. Morality aside, we should 100% be opposed to unchecked immigration of the results are anything like those two examples.

>Your worldview is black and white

>Empathy is a myth

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So I can't criticize right wing lingo and retards who abuse them in every argument?

I was talking in general. what are you talking about?

OP's pic is about people who want everyone to remain silent. It's not a bad thing to call that out.

So I can't criticize right wing lingo and retards who abuse them in every argument?

Different person retardo

>How do you know that?

Because a lot of us have been paying attention for the past 20 years and have noticed patterns forming around your incremental dismantilist efforts.

You all are like a bunch of rats trying to pull out the cat's teeth and claws before you raid the food storage.

Unfortunately for you, the cat isn't as stupid as you wish he was and will swat your ass for even getting near his mouth with a pair of pliers.

Pattern recognition is the foundation of human intelligence and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to look back a few years and see what you REALLY want.

all white people r cops?

Its kind of suspicious when you dont criticize retarded leftist lingo in the same thread

How is the comic in op's post virtue signalling

It has a point and a message

This isn't #RIPDEADVICTIMS there's an actual commentary regardless if you like it or not

Do you get upset when people take stances?

>2. Since the evidence is in, freely available, and clear that the availability of guns is unrelated to the incidence of violence,
See this is where you have an issue. there has been several mass shooting that could have been avoided with better background checks.

>4. As such, even among these people, we can conclude that their desire to be viewed as virtuous on social media
Wrong again, Once again, even when someone is wrong, they can still be sincere about it. your 4th point is a genetic fallacy.

also, OP's pic is not about the points you disagree with, it's about those who would prefer to not talk about the issue in the name of "respect".

1. It's certainly not as abused and retarded as the right, at least in this thread.
2. I know my side, do you?

>dead cop chants
So five years ago?

Using memes because you actually can't defend your point. I guess you are unable to have your own inner thinking.

>The average person doesn't see an argument and think "maybe I should look into this a bit further" they see the surface of the argument and if they are successfully appealed to they latch onto it regardless of any sort of logic.
You haven't established it was the case for the OP's pic yet. Every time you accuse anyone of being insincere about the opioinion they express, you have to prove it first. And even then, doing that doesn't invalidate the expressed opinion.

then you must be blind, how are you typing?

Fr*ckin rekt that sjw libtard npc and his leftist lingo

>Except, this time, the people moving in have a different language and substantially different culture.
That's literally the case for every State.

Also, once again, you ignore the fact those kids got their education and culture from America. You are not making a point. The US is a nation of immigrant.

>PROCESSING...
>PROCESSING...
>NO, YOU ARE [INSULT]

"virtue signaling" is what people can't find a valid argument use to deflect the point.

I've already shown why the OP pic is insincere, because it's a strawman argument.

And that just means they were born in a particular geographic location. It doesn't confer the cultural heritage that values the institutions that underlie effective democracy. For example, The US is built in part on the ideas that people should have the freedoms of speech and to bear arms, and that the government should have limited power to control those things. Mexicans place a lower priority on that, and are more in favor of government limitations. What this means in practice is that Mexican immigrants tend to vote for policies that move the US more in line with Mexico. The problem with this is that nice countries are nice not because of their geographic location, but because they managed to structure their societies in a way that people are incentivized to do nice things, and ruining that is as easy as changing the policies that set up the incentives.

I just see a facetious bitch for what it is

>You need to criticize the culture of mass shooters and the culture of people who at their worst broke a window EQUALLY muh HORSEHOE THEORY!!!!
No.

Its a nation of colonists, you retarded cuck.
And unless we annex Canada, we don't even need immigrants anymore to colonize the entire western half of the country.
Fuck off, we're full.

But it is effectively the case that you are a NPC. All you can do is post meme and when you get pointed out they do not consitute valid points, you can only post more meme.

you were the NPC all along, using deflects instead of actual arguments

Bitching about virtue signalling is a deflection

>I've already shown why the OP pic is insincere
You haven't.

You said it was a Strawman falacy, but failed to make that pint, as there are effectively people who act like in the OP's pic and this is who it is calling it out.

You are the one who made the baseless assumption that it was about an other issue the OP's Pic isn't actually calling out.

>PROCESSING...
>PROCESSING...
>NO, YOU ARE [INSULT]

What's some quality political commentary?

>because it's a strawman argument.
It's not a Strawnman argument. there are effectively people who say what is called out in the OP pic. therefore, it's not a strawman fallacy.

Quite. Rather like pointing out how unrestricted immigration wasn't very good for the natives in colonial times. If we don't want it to happen again, past events suggest certain courses of action.

I didnt know there was a serial killer in the thread

Just ignore the fucking retard

It's the same issue, you just aren't good at connecting the dots in any way. The "we shouldn't talk about" is clearly just a misrepresentation of "wait for the facts"

The children of Mexicans born in the US are as American as you, user.
Even the mainstream right acknowledges that.

My point exactly, thank you.

>Its a nation of colonists, you retarded cuck.
You have skipped a lot of history there.
>Fuck off, we're full.
The US actually has still plenty of room

So you admit its virtue signalling then

Still failed, from beginning to end to provide any actual arguments.

im already expecting
>but its not the same
because its a misrepresentation. I need to go to bed good night have fun arguing with retards

>It's the same issue,
No, it isn't.
> The "we shouldn't talk about" is clearly just a misrepresentation of "wait for the facts"
See what you did, there, you committed a strawman fallacy. you literally put in the OP's pic moth an argument it didn't made. see the difference, now?

Perhaps it depends on their intentions? Do they really want to try to change the world to being a better place, or they just appearing to do so for personal gain, attention, validation or conflict. It's a difficult to determine.

Not really, You can bitch about something and yet that somethign might actualy not be there. See OP. He has made a whole rant about a point Jhonen never made.

>"Look at that man fucking that goat" said user as he shoved his cock into an angry ostrich's cloaca, "how disgusting one must be to fuck livestock in the ass"

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Is this the "retarded liberal gun grabber comic" thread?

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>if you like GUNS you are FAT, and even WORSE, you are WHITE

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>People who use arguments like the OP comic aren't forming their own unique opinions, they see an opinion that gets a lot of social capital
1. Again, genetic fallacy that doesn't invalidate the point itself
2. You first need to establish Johnene doesn't actually agree with the opinion and only do it to draw attention. As long as you haven't proved that, you cant say he is guilty of it.

Your whole complain is based on baseless assumption from your part.

if this was anti white then why do the normal people look white

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>black lives matter we want dead cops chants.

Did you know that not all cops are white and not all white people are cops? And that cops also shoot white people for nothing all the fucking time? This really should be brought up more. White people wouldn't defend cops if the narrative didn't lead them to believe that their skin ensures their safety.

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>they see an opinion that gets a lot of social capital and realize that maybe if they do the same thing they can also get attention. How is that not in bad faith?
You have to grown up ad start to accept that people who have opinion you don't like might actually be sincere.

I agree but you are also using a fallacy to make up your own fallacy

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How can you accuse cops of being racist in the first place then? Its the entire backbone of their movement

And it also wouldn't make a joke about Somalia being a dangerous shithole if it was anti white.

>Fuck off, we're full.
>stealing Australia's catchphrase
Silly Amerilards

>White people wouldn't defend cops if the narrative didn't lead them to believe that their skin ensures their safety.
White people defend cops the same way they defend doctors; there exist corrupt and incompetent ones, but as a profession, the overwhelming majority are good.
And when some white meth head gets justifiably shot by police, they don't try to turn him into some kind of martyr against police.

I am using no fallacy.

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Great, now even whites are playing the victim.

>How can you accuse cops of being racist in the first place then?
If they are more likely to be violent with a black guy than a white guy suspected of commuting the same crime, then ,yes there is a racial issue.

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Because nobody brings up all the cop-killed innocent white people, so they created their movement without considering it. They created their movement around what gets the most attention, and when their civilian opposition is mostly white it makes it look like a race issue.

But again, their civilian opposition simply needs to see white guys getting shot for holding a wii-remote, or homeless white guys being beaten to death by cops, to realize that they're defending people who have no love for them.

>there has been several mass shooting that could have been avoided with better background checks.
You mean actually enforcing the laws currently in place? Further, laws which are unrelated to the ongoing furor about "assault weapons", magazine capacities, or cosmetic features?

>Once again, even when someone is wrong, they can still be sincere about it.
But if they are passionately wrong when finding correct information is trivially easy, they clearly do not prioritize being right very highly. "Sincerity" in an argument implies a certain amount of due diligence. A child may believe that there's a monster under the bed, but if a child made an argument that he needs a later bedtime so that the monster will have already eaten dinner by the time he goes to bed, would you call the argument sincere?

>If
npr.org/2019/07/26/745731839/new-study-says-white-police-officers-are-not-more-likely-to-shoot-minority-suspe
phys.org/news/2019-07-white-police-officers-minorities.html

Yes you do, its called the fallacy fallacy. You claim that because OP is acussing to deflect the rethoric he used is inherently fallacious.

Yes, and when a white guy gets shot for not following conflicting instructions as he crawls across the ground, like he was told to, with his hands on his head like he was told to, with his arms spread, like he was told to, they don't make a fucking peep. They excuse it, because it had to be an accident! Just like when they shot the guy having a seizure. The only reason the cop who shot the white women who called them about a possible rape was charged was because she was an Australian and thus he created an INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT, because in Australia the police don't shoot the people who call them.

If its also black cops shooting black people the its not a racial issue, at least not in the way its being spun

>Yes, and when a white guy gets shot for not following conflicting instructions as he crawls across the ground, like he was told to, with his hands on his head like he was told to, with his arms spread, like he was told to, they don't make a fucking peep.
No, we say "That particular officer was in the wrong, and should be held accountable for his actions", not "FUCK DA POPO" and proceed to loot the nearest Walmart.

>clip

>Yes you do, its called the fallacy fallacy.
I did not relay on fallacy Fallacy. I did not say I was right because I showed someone's else was relying on a Fallacy.

That's how Fallacy Fallacy work.

>You claim that because OP is acussing to deflect the rethoric he used is inherently fallacious.
I did not.

I simply stated that OP has been bitching about a point Jhonen never made. That much is already established.

The fact that you think all government is one big organization is baffling. You know states exist right? How in the world do you think all state governments are letting mass shootings happen?

How are they supposed to stop them in the first place without stricter gun control?

You realize there are other countries that have gun control and aren't "surveillance state".

>New Study Says White Police Officers Are Not More Likely To Shoot Minority Suspects
that's beside the point.

The issue was never that white cops where more likely to shoot blacks than black cops. The issue was that Cops are more likely to shoot a black culprit than a white culprit, for the same level of crime, and that regardless of the race of the cop.

You are aware that people can be racist against their own race, right?

How many cops do the police have to protect after they commit such flagrant murders before we're allowed to say "fuck da popo", oh wise all-knowing white boy?

Ironic that /pol/tards use so many fallacies despite having a sticky about then.

or maybe black culprits are more frequently armed

When has that happened? All I see is thugs trying to gouge the eyes out of policemen and then a bunch of retards jumping in his defense after his rightful death because he had no weapon

>Be careful not to do your `acts of righteousness' before men, to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.
Criticisms of virtue signalling are literally millennia old.

Despite being 13% of the population...

Dunno, you tell us

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Legally, yes, by way of birthright citizenship. And because of that and universal suffrage, they can vote to make the United States more like Mexico. Do you think that is a good thing?

Well, my melanin enriched friend, we could tell officers to back off. It worked well last time.
usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/07/12/baltimore-police-not-noticing-crime-after-freddie-gray-wave-killings-followed/744741002/

We take up a lot of space, you see. It's not like you have a monopoly on Pauli exclusion.

>You are aware that people can be racist against their own race, right?
So when are those movies that tell black people to stop killing each other coming?

>weak and pathetic
>implying that people always act tough and badass outside irl rather than calm and peaceful
This is your brain on American propaganda.

>Police shouldn't protect police who murder people and the institution should answer for that, not just the individual.
>OH SO YOU DON'T WANT ANY POLICE AT ALL HUH?!??
Alright, user. You're clearly arguing in bad faith, the question now is why.

last I saw american propaganda was telling boys its okay to cry

Most black media is about that very thing. Hell a lot of them glorify the idea of "getting out" as in rising above violence in a ghetto and being self made through the classical american dream.

Just to let you know lacking empathy is a common trait amongst serial killers

How many cats did you kill as a child?

nice thread about comics & cartoons

>Saying blacks shouldn't protect blacks who got rightfully capped means they all should get shot huh?
hearty yikes

That's "leftist propaganda", which is decried regularly in the upper echelons of American politics, alongside the concept of accessible healthcare, common sense gun control, and not being a white supremacist.

You really think he doesn't know that? Cunts like him take pride in that diagnosis user.

You don't give a shit whether police violence is justified or not. You just get outraged that some criminal gets put down, claim they were a good boy who didn't do anything wrong that were getting their life back together, go loot a Walmart, and move on to the next unjustified outrage farm.

??? Have you never watched a movie about the ghetto before? Ever?

>common sense gun control

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So a single orange, hated by the majority of the world, is enough to destroy your sea of propaganda? really gets the noggin joggin huht?

explain the usage of "uncle tom" then

It's already out. You should Get Out and watch it with Us.

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I hope you’re aware you aren’t looking tough or cool to anyone, but yourself.

I know you’re excited to go back to school soon and you need to make sure to show us how contrarian you need to be. Give it time. You’ll find your purpose in life once you finally graduate high school, move out, realize how much of a shit stain on society you are, legal own a fire arm, and commit a mass shooting after posting your manifesto online.

>The issue was that Cops are more likely to shoot a black culprit than a white culprit, for the same level of crime
This is not true. For the same crime, cops are equal opportunity shooters. Black people just commit a lot more aggravated assault. scholar.harvard.edu/files/fryer/files/empirical_analysis_tables_figures.pdf

Thats rich coming from someone who just typed a gayass *drops mic* tier post

Who hurt you, user?

I’m generally curious how old you are and how many cats you’ve killed.

This is such a "please give me reddit gold" post that I'm not even sure what angle to take on it.
Do I point out how it didn't even address what it's posting?
Or how the post in no way even implies I'm trying to look "tough" or "cool"?
Do I point out the ridiculousness of them making a post THAT retarded, while they simultaneously accuse others of being underaged?
Or the fact that they come to 4channel.org/co/ in order to try to feel intellectually superior, and can't even manage that?

>Peele later explained in the film's digital release special features that a central theme of the film is American privilege
Doesnt sounds like its related to the topic

Cause gun control has always been about keeping the population in line. Mass shootings are a modern phenomenon that effect almost no one, the vast majority of which are exclusive to black on black crime.
It's all just bullshit, and it never ceases to amuse me that Lefty's are still so gung ho for it. Like what if trump gets rid of the second amendment like you want, and then he declares himself dictator. What the hell are you idiots going to do?

Yes, thats surely the only way you can justify your insistent dehumanization of anyone who challenges you. Personally I think you are just a generally good person who gets irrational when he gets angry.

>common sense gun control

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user I know this is crazy but, maaaaaaybe just maybe, blacks make up disproportionately more of the violent criminals?
also you're forgetting white police shooting victims get no coverage.

Well we are becoming a minority in 10 years or so. Got to start practicing now eh?

>also you're forgetting white police shooting victims get no coverage.
I think that's what gets me the most.
I can totally understand people having different viewpoints, but when their viewpoints are both derived from, and verbatim regurgitation from MSM propaganda, it feels like you're talking to a chatterbot program. It takes an unusual level of thoughtlessness to unironically fall for it in Current Year + 4.
Hilariously enough, these people unironically believe that consuming MSM propaganda is "being informed". Even if you got 100% of your opinions from somewhere like /pol/, that would still be better, because then at least you would be exposed to different and conflicting views/information, instead of the single narrative.

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user, you think people putting some rando they never met as their avatar after said rando was shot is anything but attention whoring?

>Like what if trump gets rid of the second amendment like you want

Only literal retards want this. Ask any average person or anyone who actually puts effort into critical thinking will tell you they want stricter background checks, restricted sales to those who have a violent criminal past, clamp down on gun sales at trade/gun shows, no access to or selling high capacity/drum magazines, no access to silencers, and other various was to help curb the easy access to guns.

Damn near every mass shooter has obtained their guns legally. There is clearly a problem here and proper gun control followed by access mental health care is the direction we need to go in.

Do you think you have to know someone to sympathize for them?

>Damn near every mass shooter has obtained their guns legally
Well here we come to a problem
If you want to hold true to the narrative that mass shootings happen and every day and kill thousands a year, you're going to have to accept that the vast majority are carried out with illegally obtained weapons. Cause that figure takes into account criminal mass shootings.
If you want to hold true to mass shooting guns being obtained legally, then you'll have to recognize they are a tiny tiny risk on par with shark attacks and behind vending machines, and thus really only an issue cause the media sensationalizes them.

>get completely and utterly destroyed
>"B-better put the thread on autosage and pretend it never happened!"
I don't get why you do this.
When this topic comes up again anywhere in the future, and you haven't changed your position, you will get blown the fuck out just as hard as you did here.
It's perfectly legal and acceptable to change your views. No one is even asking for you to debase yourself in admitting defeat and suck their dick.

>It's perfectly legal and acceptable to change your views
I don't think so user, not for the politically correct. You see people all the time getting fucked over cause they held a view that was fine at the time and have sense changed it.

Fuck yt

Being passionate about stuff is for dorks

>no access to high capacity drums or silencers
You're a fucking retard

LOL

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baste black guy the science nye