Is he the scummiest, most immoral guy on the current roster? >Cheated on fiance while saying he hates her >Apparently fucks Paige while Maddox is dating her >Did softcore gay porn >Is a full blown atheist >rejects fan interaction, unless he gets paid for it >Accused by Kaitlyn's ex husband for sending dick pics to her while they were married >Tells kid to leave him alone when he approached Seth in public
Is there anything I'm missing? Why is this a face? Let alone the face of the company?
He's also on a serious Stand Up For WWE tear, bitching at all kinds of people on twitter. He got into it with Will Osperay and basically told him his paycheck proves WWE is better.
>>Cheated on fiance while saying he hates her >>Apparently fucks Paige while Maddox is dating her >>Did softcore gay porn >>Is a full blown atheist >>rejects fan interaction, unless he gets paid for it >>Accused by Kaitlyn's ex husband for sending dick pics to her while they were married >>Tells kid to leave him alone when he approached Seth in public Honestly, sounds like a pretty fucking cool guy. Seth is the Chad to the Virgin Roman.
Cooper Smith
Of course it is!
Matthew Morales
Seth appeared in at least one comic so he's Yea Forums related
Matthew Torres
Why does he hate her fiancee?
Michael Thomas
Which Yea Forums characters would be mega draws in modern WWE?
Yeah because christians just loved WWF in the attitude era. Lol.
Jaxson Clark
The irony is he's probably getting more actual discussion and less rape memes here on Yea Forums than he would on Yea Forums.
Asher Torres
In any other companies hands, Seth and Roman would be fucking Megastars. In wwe's hands, they are booked like Frank Grimes. Both of them. The Frank Grimes push works like this: > wwe is in desperate need for a company ace. > it's aproaching mania season > Seth and Roman are relatively over > Time For The Frank Grimes Push! > wwe makes Bork Laser the champion > he destroys all challengers, in every single title defense. > he beats everyone clean with his finishing move > the company only books him for a limited amount of dates > the company gets seth and roman to cut promos on Lesnar > all the promos consist of this: "sure Brock may be a beast. But I am here every week. Brock is a coward because he isn't here all the time. Cheer me for always being here." > this kind of promo turns Roman and Seth into bitchy, tattletale-esque dorks. > this kind of promo is the only one they are ever allowed to cut. > despite being the babyfaces, they come off like Frank Grimes: a great worker, who no one likes because he keeps getting jealous that other workers are slackers that everyone else likes. > this goes on for weeks, with Seth and Roman talking shit about Lesnar, when he isn't even scheduled by the company to show up. > then when Lesnar does appear, he kicks the living shit out of both seth and roman. > Every single time. > they NEVER get the upperhand on Bork unless they have a weapon. And even then, they still get stretchered out. > They talk shit. > They get hit > with an F-5. > Frank Grimes hinself wasn't this much of a jobber geek.
Then comes the big match. Roman gets 2 chances at Mania against Brock. Each time Brock beats Roman's ass from bell to bell. > the only reason Roman beat Lesnar at summer slam (on his 50th consecutive fucking try) is because of Braun Strowman distracting Lesnar with the MITB briefcase, instead of cashing it in and making it a triple threat match from the get go (effectively character assassinating poor Braun Strowman). > likewise, the only way Seth was able to beat Brock at Wrestlemania, he had to hit a lowblow when the ref was ko'd, like a shitty heel. > Despite the fact that Lesnar was DOMINATING Seth the whole match. > Seth is treated like a big hero for beating Brock, even though he took the cowards way out, no ever one mentions he cheated to win. > NO ONE let's Brock have his obligatory rematch, he is treated like a pariah for daring to only show up the dates he is booked, and kicking too much ass. > Brock has to win the Money In The Bank to even come close to a rematch with Seth. > Seth keeps bitching at Brock to tell him when he is going to cash in, even though Seth has used the briefcase on Brock before, and never told him when he was cashing in. > Brock humors him with little hints and clues. Outright telling Seth he is cashing in at the Saudi show. > instead of being a fighting champion like he claims, Seth grabs a chair and ruins Lesnar's chances of a cash in, like a coward > Lesnar finally cashes in, easily wins back his title. We are supposed to feel sorry for Seth, even though he won his first title by cashing-in on Brock during his match with Roman. > And last week, Seth continues to talk shit, he gets beat up by Lesnar so bad he had to be stretchered out... > again. > We are supposed to feel sorry for Seth.
tldr: All wwe has done is made Lesnar the biggest babyface fighting champion ever and turned both Seth and Roman (their handpicked company faces), into bitchy, geek heels. How can one company be wcw levels on inept?
Who do you think should be the top face of modern WWE? Seth/Roman but better booked or someone else?
Cooper Sullivan
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>Cheated on his fiance. Nothing wrong with this. You are free to be married and engage in extra martial affairs as you wish. Don't disrespect his individual freedom and she has the right to leave him.
>Apparently fucks Paige while Maddox is dating her. His individual freedom.
>Did softcore gay porn. Gay, but individual freedom.
>Full blown atheist Say it with me, individual freedom to burn in hell.
>Reject fan interaction unless he gets paid for it. He has the right to interact with people and to charge them for it. Fans owe him nothing and he owes them nothing.
>Accused by Kaitlyn's ex husband for sending dick pics to her while they were married Individual freedom.
>Tells kid to leave him alone when he approached Seth in public Kids are pieces of shit who shouldn't be born, fuck'em and individual freedom.
I would have gone with Roman, Braun or Finn Balor (injury prone my ass). But I would have NEVER made the horrid mistakes wwe made with any of those guys. Each one is so unique and different, you have something for all types of fans if you book each to their strengths instead of over highlighting their weaknesses. Though personally, I think wwe needs to give up on the idea of having a singular top guy and instead do what Heyman did with his Smackdown 6. Have a handfull of top guys and gals who act as your main characters and position them all over the card. That way, if someone isn't into Roman, they can just wait till Finn comes on. Have a little something for everyone. Game of Thrones did this to great effect. NJPW does this so well. Tanahashi is their Ace, but Okada is their golden champ, while Will Osprey is the rising star, and Ibushi is the spectacular can't miss dude. Ufc had a simmilar set up, until they caught a case of wwe stupidity and decided that john cheater jones was the only thing that matters. Hell back then, even wwe knew not to bank on one guy and had Hogan/Macho/Warrior, Rock/ Austin/ Haitch/Foley, Cena/Batista/Orton.
Kim Jung Gi wouldn't be able to draw in the shit show that is modern WWE.
Joseph Sanders
I've not watched that much modern Raw, I dunno that Braun is really a good idea. I haven't seen him as a face and he seems kinda shitty on the mic from what I've seen. As a monster heel, he's pretty good, but you have goddamn Smoa Joe at your disposal. I'm new to wrestling, I know he's been at it for a while so I don't know if he's past his prime but he's still pretty good.
Brandon Smith
Batman. No debate.
Liam Sanchez
Joe is past his prime, and he's still this great. Braun was actually a fucking sweet babyface who did absurd shit every week, but they didn't commit when they should and now Braun is sorta just... there.
Nolan Wright
So like Kurt Angle? Well, he was a heel, but he did weird shit.
Owen Turner
I don't follow e celeb bullshit
Jason Robinson
That's true. I kinda forgot about Joe. Switch him out with Braun and have Braun be slowly and organically built up. But you get my general gist. One Guy will not cut it with such a loaded roster. I was just picking names off the top of my head. Zayn, Owens, Styles, Nakamura, Rusev, Ricochet, Cesaro, fucking hell this company is packed to the brim, loaded with people who could be "the guy". And instead wwe does nothing with most of them and makes the ones they do push look like dorky chumps. My bois Fandango and Ryder could be solid midcard mainstays and instead are left at catering. Honestly though, I was really rooting for Braun because he was learning fast and what he lacked in ring skill he made up for in character and intensity. And then right at the peak of his heat, wwe made him stand outside of the Lesnar v Reigns 90th rematch, with his thumb throughly planted up his ass, as a prop to get the fans to actually sit through a Reigns match (instead of just getting up and leaving like they had been doing the past few months) and instead of rewarding the fans patience, or doing good by Braun's chatacter by having him join the match at the start, he gets punked out by Lesnar and made to look like such a geek while Roman wins (lol). Then they immediately turned Braun heel as a sacrifice to keeping Reigns on top, when they Easily, could have had Reigns and Braun as top guys with a few others alongside them (perhaps Rollins, Ambrose, Cesaro). I will never not be salty about wwe killing Brauns overness. Because when Reigns went down with cancer, they had NO ONE to pick up the slack and they are still in that directionless rutt to this day, even with Reigns back and healthy.
>Zayn, Owens, Styles, Nakamura, Rusev, Ricochet, Cesaro I was thinking Sami and Kev but I didn't know if they really had that top star material. Same for Nak. Styles I think could handle his own, Ricochet I love his in ring work but I don't know how good he is at cutting promos and I haven't seen much Cesaro >My bois Fandango and Ryder could be solid midcard mainstays and instead are left at catering. I can't remember how but I hear they pissed off behind the scene guys or something. Not their fault, but again, I can't remember how.
Sebastian Walker
>wrestling is so retarded, it counts as capeshit
David Brown
While we're here, what does Yea Forums think of Beko?
It honestly sounds like the bigger issue is letting Bunk Loosenard get a sweetheart deal where he doesn't need to show up, doesn't need to lose, and doesn't even need to talk.
Braun was a better Brick Lester. Brill Licenear never threw an ambulance at someone.
Got to set up the title rematch. Preventing him from getting to the G1 finals would be a good victory for Juice. Especially if he doesn't get his title back.