This USED to be powerful

>FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT
>IF YOU COME AT ME IN A PUBLIC SITUATION

Literally wtf. Like, is this some sort of depraved fetish?

>Implying 9mm was ever powerful
FBI glass wrist faggot please go, 10mm auto +P or nothing.

Probably some kind of desire to have a "harem of sisters," which is to say, a whole group of females who are forced to associate with you because there's no other way you're ever gonna get a chick near you.

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....do each of the sisters have a suicide pic?

That shit is dope. sauce me?

nvm I found it

nah but I do have this I did have one for Lana where she puts on a bomb suit but I can't find it

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I remember not even caring back when it first aired.

If someone wants to use a gun, I don’t think a static shock episode is going to deter them.

WAKE ME UP

Already have one. Having 4 sisters and being the only boy isn’t fun.

did you like walking into bloody warzones in the morning bathroom?

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test

AND IT WILL BE AGAIN

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Why is he using the sights?

lmao

>not .600 Nitro Express

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>Calling me a faggot wasn't funny! >Ruining my Simpson threads wasn't funny!

Yo did it update already

Yep, new one out now

Shag and Scoob is God-Tier media.

This is also why brother-sister incest has crept into anime over the last few years. Declining birthrates over the last few decades have led to the current generation being far less likely to have a sibling, so a lot of otaku have grown up with this notion that a little sister is basically just a cute girl that lives in your house and don't realize that siblings raised together tend not to be attracted to each other. They know it's considered a taboo but don't quite understand why.

What being white or having a gun?

Remember when some guy in Las Vegas shot 400 people, the media forgot about it in a week, and no federal reforms were made to gun control?

America was fucked from the start, honestly. It's the only developed country in the world that allows its citizens to so effortlessly kill each other.

No.

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SHALL

Not to mention that sisters/cousins are often portrayed as being madly in love with the protag and constantly doing "onni-chan!" shit, basically making weebs and otaku think sisters are pretty much the perfect innocent and pure virgins that love them unconditionally, unlike the reality where at best they're basically bros and at worst you despise each other and living together with a woman who has zero sexual or romantic interest in you (and thus no reason to make her self seem better in your eyes) very quickly destroys the idea that women are in anyway purer, or more hygienic, than males.

>"The level of carnage I could UNLEASH with a GUN in my hand?"
I can get what they're going at but this just feels hilarious, since it's a universe where powers exist that let you casually level city blocks

You fool! Your puny weapons will have no affect on the Didio and his power of shitty reboots and realunches!

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A terrible tragedy that when we frirst saw it made us cry, but now we make fun of it and meme it to the point of ridicule like 9/11

Do you feel lucky? Well? Do ya, punk?

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This is mostly because it's unusual in Japanese family to have more than one child so siblings work as that kind of fantasy.

It's no different from American mom fantasies, milf porn is extremely popular here because it's a taboo to see even the family members of opposite sex naked thanks to sexual puritanism.

about half of those developed countries you mention let you have guns after a month's worth of paperwork.

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>Germany lucky to have a pea shooter

Why was Virgil's Dad such a self-righteous cunt?
>What were you thinking having a gun?
He was probably thinking that he lived in a crime-ridden hellhole of a neighborhood, you fat faggot.

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Who needs webs?

This can't wait a month!

Is this a belt-fed submachine gun that Batman holds with one hand -slanted?

He should have shot that kid, then everyone else.

>bunch of gang members with super powers running around
>not owning a gun, something that most are still effected by

>but because by their very nature a fired gun is extremely anticlimactic
nigger a fucking explosion?

>Shooting at my kid's school
How many people are going to respond well when they realize that 1 or 2 details could have changed everything

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>there's already been another shooting since this thread was made

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BEBEBEBEBE

>the only country in the world that allows people to effortlessly kill each other
As oppossed to most of the Fucking world you Fucking retard, how about afrika or the middle East or china?
Im Fucking tired of arguing with mouthbreaders like you all day

>caring about some failed FBI weapon sting
cringe beggin ya to have sex

One of the better episodes. Though my favorites are the homeless ice girl and the Superman crossover where they fight Braniac

>a month
>less time than a car
wtf, fucking nazis taking away my guns! If I cant walk into a seven eleven and exit with a gun shoved up my butthole I just dont want to live in this country anymore

he did say developed country. he's talking about the actual civilized world not foreign shitholes.

If you check racial distribution, American Whites are as homocidal as European Whites. The reason why American commit more crimes per capita is that they have more non-whites per capita.

That's a lot of words to say "it's all the niggers' fault."

What was the link for this webcomic? I read it in here a long time ago and it was mind-blowing.

YOU SCUM

I would say "this post aged well" since just yesterday a white boy killed 20 innocent people and injured many others, but I'm sure you already knew it and want to seethe at brown people anyway, most of them victims of said attack.

YOU'RE A BIG GUY

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kys Yea Forumsshitter

There have been 3 shootings so far but "some people" are trying to convince people that the obvious white supremacists aren't actually white supremacists but jewish falseflags meant to make the people who keep talking about race wars and executing all nonwhites look like violent unhinged psychopaths

This applies to any kind of incestfag in this site. They're always self inserting like this.

Also it's funny that they keep saying all varied forms of "we love Trump" and whatnot through livestreams and manifestos, yet they, who constantly talk about white genocide and misread crime statistics keep implying there isn't a correlation whatsoever, just a way to smear him through a very intricate and complex conspiracy against them. Just makes you think, really.

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Is he just bluffing here?

In Australia we had the biggest massacre on earth and the government went "That's it, no more guns!" and we went "yeah, alright then that seems fair enough..."

In America you had Sandy Hook happen with little dead kids and your government went "Maaaaybe we can...get rid of the big guns?" and you all went "FUCK YOU DON'T TOUCH MY GUNS"

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They banned bump stocks,

I love that episode of Yea Forums where when you talk about gun laws working for Australia you got people talking to you about blacks with machetes. If you actually looked it up, there were no machete deaths, just blacks walking around.

If banning guns were that easy, we'd be rewriting our entire constiution, which is what it takes to actually ban guns. And that just opens it up for people to change all sorts of shit.

Obviously.

>We're better than regions we intentionally destabilized to feed our empire

Wow

>Muh per capita meme again

Ben Shapiro should be beaten for popularizing this stupid shit.

It's exactly like implying Norway is a violent shithole given their 10's statistics skewed by that one shooting in Utoya. And the worst part is that a lot of dumbasses here repeat the statistic argument every single time and pretend it's a surefire way to end every debate.

>oh no we'd have to update our laws to current times

Amendments are constitutional, so slippery slope remains a logical fallacy and the joke isn't banning guns, it's letting people bear arms, just not all arms. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED = the right to own more than one gun shall not be infringed. Owning multiple hunting weapons and sweet ass revolvers could still be okay.

What are those? Supposedly they make a semi-auto weapon close enough to a full-auto where it makes no practical difference but I never heard of them.

>no practical difference
You can unload on a crowd more efficiently. I don't understand how you both never heard of them and know what they are.

Bitch can't do maths. 20 people is still a small number in the overall number of deaths. Just because you don't read about others killings doesn't mean they never happened.

Almost like there's a homicidal pandemic in the US where 20 people dying in a single incident is still "a small number" compared to the rest of the stats. And that's not even counting the other mass shooting that took place today.

I know this was from way before your mom and uncle conceived you in their trailer but we actually did ban guns once in America in fact we banned these EXACT guns and it was pretty damn easy

Nah we went "We need MORE GUNS, GIVE THE TEACHERS GUNS!" Because that somehow would solve the issue and not somehow make things worse given that arms would just make it that much easier to get a hold of from an inexperienced teacher leaving one around. Plus how many teachers do you know that have the training and physical prowless to handle a firearm?

Plus note that Hook wasn't the first incident where little kids got caught up in a shooting. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Elementary_School_shooting_(San_Diego)

At least a good song came out of that one. I still play it every time a shooting comes up on the news. Just a kind of irony that after 40 years this shit hasn't gotten better, but far worse.

You could literally do the same thing that add-on does with a shoestring. It's a pretty worthless ban.

Do you have a single fact to back this all up?

I only know what they are because of the discussion that cropped when it was talked about making them illegal. I hadn't heard of it prior to that nor have I ever seen one.

Works just well

ever wonder how much easier it'll be to get rid of your first amendment rights too?

your wiafu is waiting for you, user

Yes because that's another thing you retards keep crying about

>MUH STORMFRONT
>MUH ALEX JONES

seething with one post thats a new record

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And it did jack shit to the amount of murders in the US

I can't wait for nogunz to finally get what they want and ban everything but 'hunting guns' and then for three crazy motherfuckers to lay down an absolute wave of destruction on some public space with a few punps and some well synced reloads.

test

We already get those, though.

>I can't wait for more killings to happen
Now who's the psychopath?

It's not about wanting them to happen, it's about the inevitability of them continuing to happen under certain circumstances, like a half-assed gun ban.

HIS SPECIAL ATTACK IS [GUN]

Anyone else find it strange how these shootings keep happening in gun free zones?
Or how the shooters always seem to target gun free zones, but invariably end up killing themselves anyway or look drugged out of their minds when they get arrested?

>Anyone else find it strange how these shootings keep happening in gun free zones?
This literally happened in El Paso TX, an open carry state. Try again?

>but invariably end up killing themselves anyway or look drugged out of their minds when they get arrested?
I just can't imagine a single reason for that.

There haven't been cases of "assault style" weapons stopping people with "assault style" weapons. The hero fantasy of stopping a mass shooter is still achievable with a "hunting gun". Not sure why removing them from the equation suddenly makes a difference in that regard.

I thought Walmart was a gun free zone

It isn't. twitter.com/lbeckman/status/1157826414546173952?s=19

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>Orange Man Bad
>Orange Man should have all the guns.

some of them are, but in texas thats unlikely

Open carry but they'll ask you to prove it's a legal weapon.

>Yea Forums pass
>Dogshit opinion
Like clockwork

Statistically irrelevant

What was his motive?

Was Jimmy an incel?

That's why I like green man. He gives out guns.

>19 kids in bumfuck nowhere died so let's deny the rights of 7 million Americans
Eat dick.

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>Owning multiple hunting weapons and sweet ass revolvers could still be okay.

What is a "hunting weapon"?

There was a manifesto posted on infinity chan (funny how that one became the edgiest), in which he was basically citing Trump and Great Replacement theory. More of the same since Christchurch.

Wooden stock, no scary black plastic

>"We need the government to outlaw and confiscate guns!"
>"Trump is LITERALLY a fascist and the second coming of Adolf Hitler!"

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I'm talking about the Las Vegas shooter.

The American fetishization of guns will never not be pathetic. You don't need guns in the modern day, at least not the big ones. The red coats aren't coming to get you anymore, you won that fight.

Oh, I don't remember if there was ever a manifesto or motive, dude killed himself. That was fucked up though.

The 2nd Amendment was not enshrined in the Constitution for the sole purpose of fighting Britain.

We still don't know his motivation to this day. At least as far as information released to the public is concerned.

You think DC is ever going to have Jim Gordon and the GCPD respond to a mass shooting in Gotham during the middle of the day?

it's purpose was to repel an oppressive government, should the need arise. but with tanks, drones, and other advanced weaponry owned by the gov, it's just not possible anymore. it's an outdated relic based on yesterday's world.

The US will fall apart if they actually use those

>but with tanks, drones, and other advanced weaponry owned by the gov, it's just not possible anymore
Just like how a bunch of middle eastern goat fuckers with rusted to shit AK's got absolutely fucking stomped by America... Oh wait.

If an oppressive US government got to the point of obliterating its own citizens and infrastructure en masse, it would have already lost. Drones and tanks can't go door to door confiscating firearms. The retention rate on drone operators is bad enough when the targets are foreign enemies, let alone US citizens. Foreign governments would inevitably intervene, and the military would have to deal with defections. A government in all out war with its own people is destined to collapse.

Even the joker will be disgusted

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Now it's an average thursday in Murica

How far can DD "see"?

Punished can get a scope and see his target hundreds of yards away, DD needs to be able to hear the echo from his target.

Plus, wouldn't firing a gun be bad for DD's hearing?

What if there were some villains like Poison Ivy and the Riddler pulling some heist only to be seriously injured or killed by the a mass shooter in the nearby voicing? Imagine all those inmates in the asylum hearing about a random Gotham citizen who just snapped causing more mayhem and death than ever did in their entire careers.

Yes, because a militia of overweight, unintelligent, and mentally-ill Americans has the logistical or technological capacity to prevent the largest, most well-funded and technologically-advanced military in the entire history of civilization.

Every time I see this dumbass rhetoric of "we need our guns to stop the government from oppressing us with the military”, I don't see anyone volunteering to go out there and kill some random cops / soldiers in order to prove their loyalty to the USA.

If America is in danger of becoming a police state at any moment, why don't you shut up, nut up, and prove your point by committing some domestic terrorism against the nation you claim to oppress you?

> militia of overweight, unintelligent, and mentally-ill Americans has the logistical or technological capacity to prevent the largest, most well-funded and technologically-advanced military in the entire history of civilization.
>who are the Vietnamese
>who are the afghans
I swear everytime i see a Yea Forums pass a dumbass opinion follows shortly afterward.

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His pc and sneakers were made with slave labor in China he bears that burden just fine.

He’s right, though.

Please write an essay on how invading a foreign country with centuries of military experience thousands of miles away with terrain and strategies vastly different from any prior engagement allied with a foreign government that doesn't want you there and against an enemy government whose military will commit endless war crimes and atrocities just to see you defeated is different from oppressing your own citizens on home soil with infinite military infrastructure whose only experience in combat comes from shooting cans in their backyard.

Please look up basic history before posting again.

>the police are racist fascists who kill you at the drop of a hat
>only they should be allowed to carry guns

Because a country is unwilling to murder their own civilians and destroy their economic centers. Can you imagine how much that will cripple them. They need these people to pay taxes, corpses cant do that.
> oppressing your own citizens on home soil with infinite military infrastructure whose only experience in combat comes from shooting cans in their backyard.
Do you not know how revolutions are started? Who the fuck do you think the original american revolutionaries are?
>Please look up basic history before posting again.
Look up how nazis forced the jews to give up guns before committing genocide. I know my history just fine whereas you know the bare minimum.

>centuries of military experience

Mmm yes just nuke and firebomb all your own major cities and infrastructure. Fantastic plan. Fucking retard.

(You)

We banned alcohol too
Easy right

He was right tho

Maybe we should address BOTH issues user

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>Rewriting laws for "modern times"
>Let's get rid of pesky things like free speech the peasants no longer need

Alright, I don't know where you get the idea that countries where citizens aren't allowed to carry firearms will suddenly turn into literal Nazi Germany, but that's a really strange and paranoid perspective that shows a general ignorance of world affairs outside the USA's borders.

All I'm saying is a Venn diagram of countries where police carry guns, and countries with high police corruption, is a circle

I heard that he used the internet before and got ideas from it
The fact that we allow it after he killed kids is unacceptable

If you're referring the 1991 AWB under Clinton, it did jack all. There were still mass murders.

Maybe, just maybe, we need to focus on the fact that people are going collectively insane?

He didn't suggest any way to improve society. Shitty, ill-informed gun legislation made by rich boomers who go everywhere with armed security isn't doing shit.

Dude remove the goddamn pass tag, it undermines your argument and distracts those who are looking for an easy way to dismiss your argument, it's completely unnecessary to announce it. (Only doing it just now to appeal to your sensibilities)

>Maybe, just maybe, we need to focus on the fact that people are going collectively insane?

Well maybe if Yea Forums stopped saying "kill yourself" because of a disliked opinion, that might make some headway.

Well it's easy user, you see when a nation takes away guns it means they intend to enact laws they know the common civilian won't accept.
Hitler wanted to kill jews he can't do that if the jews fought back and shot his nazis
But you're right one example is too little. How about Communist China and there culture revolution? Or pol pot? How many millions need to be killed in order for you to see that gun rights protect their citizens?
> but that's a really strange and paranoid perspective
It's better than being a dumbass who can barely remember 50 years of history.

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were you trying to give yourself moral support.

You can get arrested in the UK for saying negative things about Muslims online, seems like an authoritarian shithole in my eyes.

Distrust in the government, plain and simple

>Hitler

Took away guns from Jews... while trying to increase gun ownership in non-Jew Germans.

You find a politician saying "I want all the citizens to have guns! It's their patriotic duty! But not those guys, they're not REALLY citizens" and you can make the Hitler comparison.

>a reasonable response to address an actual issue on the site
Fuck, this Sunday is WEIRD.
No, I just don't get why that guy has to do that, at least a trip makes sense, but not the pass. Here, I am removing it.
Based Onions (I actually didn't type the vegetable name)

Really, it goes all the way back to Columbine. This shit has always happened and will likely never change in any big way.

Fuck the NRA and the Congressmen whose pockets they keep lining with money.

Last time I recall the US is not the only place where shootings happen
Unless you think it's the only place it exists
Either way I think the internet needs to be banned and if you argue otherwise you support child killing

>while trying to increase gun ownership in non-Jew Germans.
bull fucking shit, he took away the guns from Austrians and all the other parts he reconquered. The only ones who could get guns were if you were in the Nazi party.

The thing is that they only allow guns that are designed to defend yourself and not designed to kill.
If you try to shoot a crowd you'll hardly kill someone making mass shooting impossible with legally obtained weapons.

Ah the NRA, another boogeyman to blame instead of blaming bad parenting, media obsession and especially lack of mental health programs. Because it can't be OUR fault

>The thing is that they only allow guns that are designed to defend yourself and not designed to kill.
What?

Regularly [ reg-yuh-ler-lee ]

Adverb
At regular times or intervals.
According to plan, Custom, etc.
Usually; Ordinarily:

All guns are designed to defend yourself and kill you retarded liberal.

>The thing is that they only allow guns that are designed to defend yourself and not designed to kill.
You mean guns designed to kill the person trying to kill you? What the fuck kind of retardation are you gibbering about here user?

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You could easily commit a mass shooting with pretty much any firearm that isn't a musket. The University of Texas shooter killed 16 and wounded 31 with basic hunting rifles. Vast majority of gun deaths are caused by handguns.

The fact that all "legislation" focuses on the scary looking guns should tell you something.

I thought Democrats loved killing children though.

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Yes, shootings happen here
This is not the only country where shootings regularly happen
Need anything else?

>The thing is that they only allow guns that are designed to defend yourself and not designed to kill.
Remember this is what liberals actually believe.

How many AR-15s are currently in circulation?

Of those, how many have been used in mass shootings?

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>Cops should be trained to shoot for the legs instead of center mass!
Same energy.

What other places are you comparing America to? Third world countries? War zones? We are also talking mass shootings here

>all those libtards seething at guns
KEK

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>norway
>third world

>it's a Yea Forumsmblr politics thread

There's a strong neocon zoomer energy oozing from this post.

whoops meant for

>it's a /pol/tard raid thread

A new record! It only took 190 posts for the "muh Yea Forumsmblr" posters to arrive, all in succession (if it's not the same person that is)

If you are refering to Anders Breivik, then let me point you back at

There's a strong libtard tranny energy oozing from this post.

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In the US it's impossible to know.
But we know in Canada there's about 70,000 in civilian hands, if adjust for population number that would mean at a minimum 715,000, probably way more since gun culture is just larger in America (Canada actually has a fairly significant gun culture most people don't know about, but a smaller population and licensing means a lower number of guns)

People tell me all the time "YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION!"

Yes you can! They're called "Amendments!"

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You can but you need people to actually agree with what you want changed. Which the majority obviously does not

Mass shootings is irrelevant. If 20 individual murders happen in one country and one 20-person mass shooting happens in another, that does not mean one does not have a gun problem.
Even so, mass shooting refers to at least two targets of a shooting. Many countries have that. That's not to say the US doesn't have a problem, but saying it's the only one where it regularly happens is naive

you know norway has a higher rate of murder right?

>250 mass shooting since the start of the year in freedom land
>lol it trigger libtards so it's ok
I remember being 12 and edgy, good time

They never learn.

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and yet even with all that death other first world countries still lead us in death and violence. Really makes you thinkl

You ever notice how shootings start to ramp up during election cycles?

But is it possible without being career suicide for politicians?

>Finland that high

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You can also ban the constitution so why not do that

Now in the ten years leading up to guns being banned in Australia we had ten massacres. After banning guns, there haven't been any.

Why did this happen? I don't know! Could be coincidence, I suppose....

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Millennial Senators will see to that.

ib4lobbyingchangeseverything

>He thinks it would be as hard to get guns into the US as it is an island nation
Cool and now they can't share videos big daddy government said no no to without going to prison

>After banning guns, there haven't been any.
There is no need to lie

Cars kill more people, that is a fact.

Alcohol kills way more people too. More children drown in swimming pools.

>he thinks forcing the entire supply of guns to turn black market on a country as utterly fucking massive as the US wouldn't result in insanely high prices for black market guns, pricing out the vast vast vast vast majority of would-be shooters
Columbine fags don't have 80 grand to buy a rifle, the reason they can do what they do is because their buddy Steve will sell them his dad's rifle from wal-mart for fitty bux.

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Note that Brazil has had significantly more murders then the US so this is misleading

Well, most people in comics have never held a gun before, let alone even understand how one operates.

Is there anyway to know how many are gang related?

Huh? The intentional homicide rate of Norway is 0.5 per 100k. The US is 5.3

The obvious solution is to ban cars, alcohol, and assault swimming pools.

we don't talk about that

ITT: Eurofags that don't know what causes civil wars

Yes that worked last time didn't it

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>they keep lining with money.
They're regularly outspent by Everytown and other gun control groups. Gun rights organizations in total are outspent 2:1 by gun control groups on average. The primary backer for gun control in America, Michael Bloomberg, could spend a billion dollars a year of his own person money every election promoting gun control and would still die a billionaire. Dianne Feinstein is worth more than 3 times the NRA's total assets.

México has way more mass shootings than that, and of course more killings, and that is with guns being illegal lmao.

That dude in vegas did that and injured over 400 people. If he only had "hunting guns" odds are he would've hurt/killed a lot less people. I wish we had a reasonable response to 20 6-7 year olds getting murdered like Australia did in the 90s

The dude was rich, he could have got full auto if he wanted

Mexico exists, user.

And the bump stocks he used were banned almost immediately after so it's a moot point anyway.

mexico are full of third worlder thats not the same

Awesome style!
You sir, win the internet!

Never thought I'd die fighting side-by-side with a beaner.

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The US is filled with Mexicans and blacks.

This seems racist user

haaaaaaaaaaa....hahhhhhhhh....
youtu.be/b11ZU2HceDg

The point is that with Australia guns either have to shipped in by boat, which is a massive bottleneck, or constructed clandestinely, which if you follow Australian news is actually a something that happens all the time and most criminal organizations will run a machine shop or two dedicated to churning out guns. With America, guns can simply be smuggled in through the Mexican border.

>we gotta protect the children
>who cares if they do nothing except play fortnite and eat tide pods
Begging you to have sex

They havent been integrated into america yet.

Hell, you can even make them in your garage. Some Brit even published a book about it before they took him away for not having a loicense, there's pdfs online.

Forgot the link youtube.com/watch?v=sIhGCRIQnCA

By which metric?

"A single fact" would be called cherry-picking and still ignored and discarded.

do they have "a single one"

>comparing an easily-detected permanent good with a consumable
You're retarded.
Getting a gun on the black market is insanely fucking expensive, which prices out most of the yokel fucks that do these shootings.

>go to Mexico for a cheap gun
>go back to US
>gun gets caught at the border
>go to pound-me-in-the-ass prison
Good thinking

>It'll be slightly easier for a gun black market to operate in the US than in Australia
And? How does that prevent gun prices from skyrocketing when the black market takes over?

>this thread is still up

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>can't even catch migfrants
>can catch guns
good joke

>Hey guys, let's give the government MORE power over us and get rid of our last resort! Surely they're all upstanding individuals that would never harm us!

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>donald trump, please take our guns away so we never have a chance to revolt against your fascist government!

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This is the fifth time this argument is mentioned in this thread.
Has any Democrat proposed banning all weapons?

At least we're finally past the point of people lying and saying "we don't want to take your guns". It makes this all so much easier.

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Sure, they don't want to ban ALL guns, just the ones that kill people.

>Hey guys, I'm fucking retarded enough to think untrained backwoods cunts hiding in trees with wal-mart rifles can stand up to flying killbots and other modern military technology
Yikes.

The right to bear arms didn't exist so the people could protect themselves from the government, it existed because the founders didn't want an army period. They knew that a national standing army would be too powerful for any group of citizens to combat and would therefore be a possible threat to sovereignty (military coups are a thing), so they established the right to bear arms so they would always have a ready populace armed and able to form temporary militias.

It became utterly pointless once we abandoned that way of thinking and built a standing army.

No, because they know it would never pass.

Instead they go the California route and just make being a gun owner a pain in the ass instead.

Which is ironic since gun control laws pretty much only affect poor people.

Yes several, including a former Supreme Court Justice at one point.

Look at Europe and England. They will, if given the chance.

"SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" you libtard!
Any regulation is step one on a slippery slope to taking it all!

Yeah, look at that country with virtually no gun violence. The crazy fools.

see

>ban apples
>apple related violence falls to 0
>people are still stabbing each other and throwing acid in each other's faces

>mission accomplished

Can you give me examples?
It’s plausible but I want to see the context.

>a drone cannot patrol a street corner
Stopped reading there.
Don't form your political beliefs around retarded military LARPers on a Korean Underwater Basket Weaving forum.

He needs an ak47, then

Maybe they should ban trucks, I hear they've been having problems with those.

>I'm sure your guns are gonna do great against the entire a drone strike

>ban guns
>gun related violence falls to 0
>but death as a concept still exists
Mission unironically accomplished

This was also meant as a reply to

>patrol
confused with
>enforce "no assembly" edicts
nice reading esl

They did ban trucks from several parts of the city.
When was even the last truck attack in Europe?

>karl marx literally says communism is impossible with an armed revolt
>leftists are STILL trying to disarm the public

I don't get it. You're literally working against your own agenda.

>a drone cannot patrol a street corner
Thats not what it said at all

>banning a weapon made for the sole purpose of murder
>banning a vehicle that is flat-out required for the supply chain of the country to function
Yeah those seem like exactly the same.

>Drones can't enforce "no assembly edicts"
>It's not like they're flying death machines with targeted strike capabilities that can monitor every movement in the country
hurrrrr
durrrrr

>America is now at the point where we're having 2X mass shootings in one day

Time to do absolutely nothing again. Because it worked so well before.

Fuck off back to R3ddit you stupid niggerfaggot poltard,get fucked back to pol/ and have sex.

They switched to Katannas. See the beheading in Germany last week.

Feinstein literally said she wants it

>monitor every movement in the country
You don't know how drones work at all do you?

SHALL
NOT
BE
INFRINGINATED

>retired justice AKA a private citizen
>resolution introduced by private citizens
Your point?

>Drones attack with surgical precision and aren't known for causing collateral damage or just flat out hitting the wrong targets.

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Meant to reply to npr.org/2018/03/27/597259426/retired-supreme-court-justice-stevens-calls-for-repeal-of-second-amendment
cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/hawaii-democrats-want-us-congress-consider-repeal-second-amendment

banning guns would still mean guns would be around for 20-30+ years because nobody's gonna just hand them out. illegal market already exists and would just flourish, and people tends to see their guns as family assets so they would hide and keep them no matter what.
Also the idea that someone who's committed enough to attack a mall isn't committed enough to get a few weapons is pathetic.

Mexico

>Drones can monitor every movement in the country.

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Look, you're not gonna beat back an army with your tiny dick guns, you don't fuckin' need 'em for protection (who the fuck are you that you think someone's trying to murder your family? The cunt who breaks into your house just wants your TV!)

The only valid and reasonable argument for not banning guns is "Fuck you, I like guns!"
And that's a valid argument! It's ok to say "I like something, don't take it away from me!" but don't give me this stupid John Wayne bullshit.

>"I need my guns to take down the entire government, whenever I determine they're corrupt"

Why should these people be armed again?

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At this point I'm finding it hard to believe the people who are arguing against gun control (which is different from a gun ban, not that they care) aren't people who enjoy the fact that these mass shootings are happening. How many of the ones from the past 24 hours were done by people with pro-Trump manifestos? They probably agree with them. They're probably privately cheering for them. They know the second amendment will never be used to overthrow any sort of government - they've got exactly the government they want, and what they want is to kill anyone who disagrees with them.

>The cunt who breaks into your house just wants your TV!
I’m sure that’s what every home invader victim thinks before they start raping

>Also the idea that someone who's committed enough to attack a mall isn't committed enough to get a few weapons is pathetic
It's not a question of commitment, it's a question of resources.

If a 16 year old kid has 100 bucks and no social skills, and you can buy guns for cheap at wal-mart and there's no legal risk for just leaving guns out, he can probably steal his dad's gun or get his friend to sell him one of his family's guns.

If a 16 year old kid has 100 bucks and no social skills and goes down to the docks to try to haggle with a russian gangster over the gun that he wants 15k for, he's gonna wind up chopped up in a shipping container.

I know which world I'd rather live in.

>>It's not like they're flying death machines with targeted strike capabilities that can monitor every movement in the country
we got a bad case of "I'm 12 and COD is REAL " there boys

>you don't fuckin' need 'em for protection
Yes, because no one in history has ever used a firearm for self defense.

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>Imagine not wanting to protect people from being genocided by the government

>we got a case of "I'm 12 and COD is real"
>said the guy who thinks he can put down a military coup with his wal-mart AK

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I assume this was a reply to my post, thank you for the examples.
I would like to point out two things.
First, these two attempts appear to be extremely fringe, and do not appear to have any support from the Democratic mainstream. Pretty difficult to connect them to the average Democrat.
Second, repealing the second amendment does not imply removing all weapons from the public.
Most European countries have no equivalent to the second amendment.

>wanting teenagers dead for having an interest in firearms
I know I'd rather not have you living.

How about we start effectively enforcing the gun control laws that are already on the books before creating new ones?

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Vietnam stopped America with tiny dick guns.

>It's not a question of commitment, it's a question of resources.
I'm French and I can get a gun if I want, you just have to know a few people and get some cash. I'm FUCKING FRENCH.
You think any place near mexico can't do the same? You literally don't live on this planet.

>guns are the only form of protection in existence

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>only the government and criminals should be armed
The fuck?

Brazil had 60k homicides in 2016

Guns are force equalizers. Why do you hate women?

These are, quite coincidentally, the same people that get offended every time somebody criticizes the police or the military.

>some cash
>3,000 euros
>~3,500 US dollars
Yeah I'm sure every picked-on high schooler has three thousand dollars in cash laying around

Piss off you cunt

>farmer stops an entire soviet corps
>but thats impossibru

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Try defending yourself against a criminal with a gun with a knife.

I don’t see how a little old lady can be an adult male in a knife fight

>country with 300+ million people
>dozen thousand killed per year
>hmm 20 people died yesterday!
They should really invest in basic edumacashun for american schools huh?

So what is the conservative proposal to stop white terrorist mass shootings?

And the same people that see the police as corrupt pigs who can't be trusted want to trust them to be the only people allowed to own firearms.

>rewrite laws for modern times
>let's ban guns and become even more defenseless
I love me a bootlicker.

>former military sniper in a tundra is a military sniper in a tundra
>in fucking WWII
Yeah, I'm sure the military realities of WWII russian and the modern US are exactly the same.

Keep enjoying that fantasy that you'll be able to stop a military coup with a militia. Fortunately you'll never have to find out how insanely stupid that idea is.
Not so fortunate for all those dead kids, though.

teenagers use there parents money to buy mobage garbage by the thousands.

But nobody is calling for a ban on all weapons.

Improve mental health resources and toss Epstein's ass in jail so he stops orchestrating these distractions.

>wanting to stop something they support
??
Look at everything conservatives say about Muslims and terrorism and how even non-terrorist Muslims are in league with the terrorists.
They say that because they're projecting. They say that because that's how they're like themselves.

>little old lady fires a pistol
>breaks her wrist, misses
>gets stabbed anyways
or
>gun vs knife at close range
>get stabbed before you even get it out of the holster
Even your made-up situations are fucking retarded. Have you ever even held a gun?

Invest in mental health facilities, which should also help with the rampant homeless and drug abuse problem.
Put them on a list if they seem to be organizing and have the FBI actually do their damn job.
I'm not a conservative for wanting guns.

Thanks buddy i'll do just that, at least i wouldn't be mowed down by nazis when they want to kill blacks.

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Scroll up.

Ahh. Yes. Finding a black market contact and giving them thousands of dollars in cash for contraband is exactly the same as hitting "BUY NOW" on a videogame pre-connected to their parents credit cards.

You are an intelligent and reasonable individual with good arguments.

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Enforce existing gun laws, improve quality and access to mental health institutions, raise awareness about mental health issues, preferably do something about our fucked up healthcare system, and stop demonizing large groups of people and then acting shocked that they wind up radicalized, whether they're Muslims, White, Black, Mexican, whatever.

There never is one. Orange Hitler radicalized an entire nation of autists who would otherwise just play FPS games to vent their retarded frustrations. After enough massacres, they figured it was more profitable to let them keep killing than to lose a few hundred thousand dollars in NRA checks

The mainstream leftist position is to trust the democratic system enough to hope that police corruption can be defeated by laws and reformation.
And it has worked so far. Every victory of civil rights in the last half-century has been won peacefully.

>little old lady fires a pistol
>breaks her wrist, misses
What kind of fucking old ladies do you meet?
>gun vs knife at close range
>get stabbed before you even get it out of the holster
He's not the one with retarded scenarios

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I feel you need to be updated into the realities of modern warfare and counter insurgency operations and why they are extremely expensive and ineffective, specially in a nation that is large, populous and largely covered by rough terrain. Also might want to read the dictionary definition of "deterrent".

>Invest in mental health facilities, which should also help with the rampant homeless and drug abuse problem.
Obama's gun control plan had that but Republicans shot it down. So clearly you don't actually support it when you can.

Which conservative group is working towards improving access to mental institutions?

Massively easier, you mean. While prices will increase due to lack of supply versus demand, it won't be anywhere near comparable to the black market prices seen in other nations. Also, keep in mind that gun prices are at historical low points.

so no, you've never held or fired a gun before

>let me conveniently ignore the other people responding to this post

Yes thats why we have so many illegal drug related deaths, wonder how those kids found those black market contact.

>but some random anonymous person who may or may not be me samefagging said it
Let's move the goalposts to where it should be: Nobody who MATTERS. You can find some random anonymous person for any claim in existence.

>limiting magazine sizes
Gee, I wonder why.

youtube.com/watch?v=xB7iz1HTh9U
have you?

Well, everybody mentions investing in mental health facilities, but I don’t recall Republicans working on that when they controlled Congress.

>illegal drug

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>prices won't raise that much guy just trust me the black market is all about giving people good deals

Yeah, because the kid in your high school selling schwag and the mobsters selling weapons are exactly the same. Totally fucking comparable.

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Can someone explain why we didn't really have shootings like this 30 years ago, despite still having millions of guns? What happened to the nation's youth?

Have a lizard.

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How the fuck could I samefag almost half of 335 replies?

Almost like the people you vehemently call "leftists" in the US are actually liberal centrists with barely any actual left wing praxis.
Way, way more have died this year in terms of mass shootings alone, but you instantly resort to the per cápita statistics because the idea that several thousands die in a developed country like the US unlike any in Europe (or even combined) is apparently too abstract to your tiny brain.
>"Oh but you see, in this country with the population of Texas had 80+ children killed in one island years ago, and per capita that's much higher than our entire country with ten times the population, that means they're more dangerous than us!"

Blame it on the usual suspects (video games, ISIS, the "white genocide" myth, etc) instead of taking responsibilty

Oh, for fuck's sake.
>why don't you support a package of things if it has one thing you support
And I'm not a fucking politician you retard, did you think I was one of the guys deciding on that? Do you honestly wanna say that I am to blame for actions of other people - who I didn't even vote for if you haven't noticed what my original post said -?
If that is what makes you pat yourself on the back, go ahead.

>stock buried deep in her shoulder AND supported by wheelchair
>still can't even hit the target, muzzle flies everywhere
A+ video, user, you're retarded

I swear you faggots think guns are magic

Because postmodernism was a mistake. Also more people had guns, so you could reliably expect to get shot for trying something.

Are you referring to the Hawaiian proposal to repeal the second amendment that went nowhere? It wasn’t a ban of all weapons.

A ban was lifted on something by someone.

>he doesn't know how the drug trade works,
fuck you people are sheltered

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I'm not a republican to begin with, stop arguing like it's some catch 22 game where you try to make me look bad to pat yourself on the back and actually address the answer to your question.

Worked out fine for this one
google.com/amp/s/www.wsbtv.com/amp/news/police-woman-shot-intruder-9-times-in-self-defense/241762740

didnt break her fucking wrists though did it you goal post moving faggot. And if a criminal is willing to stand there like a retard instead of running i've got a bridge to sell you.

Well, it’s difficult to argue that it is the conservative position when no conservative is arguing for it.

>Can someone explain why we didn't really have shootings like this 30 years ago
We did, they just killed fewer people. The perpetrators weren't as good at it and didn't have weapons as up to the task.

>the drug trade exists
>therefore billy will be able to buy a rifle from his classmate for 50 bux if you make guns illegal
Brilliant.

I unironically blame the internet; the ability to rapidly spread information prob also lead to more propaganda/radicalization. Mass shootings have always been a thing but now these losers are leaving manifestos and such that all share a common script

White people weren’t scared.

Don't forget the media sensationalizing these things in spite of psychologists stating time and time again that it'll only create more.

>didn't break her wrists
yeah...because she had the stock buried in her shoulder with her wheelchair supporting her back. The lack of control is a direct result of insufficient arm strength.

I know you American cunts aren't taught critical thinking skills so you don't ken to your parents being dumb cunts but jesus christ have a thought would ye?

>drugs are illegal now
>now our children will not suffer
>Billy is able to continue to purchase his drugs just fine
>But guns will be different this time
Real genius you are

That doesn't explain the Cuban in Florida.

youtube.com/watch?v=rsyBi10MnNU
youtube.com/watch?v=wOyGDIZZY7Q
Here's two more, not counting the dozen more i know, i swear you eurofaggots think guns shatter every bone when fired

cool, just go back to and read in a loop instead of ever posting again.

I'm answering since the assumption seems to be being for gun ownership as a right is a conservative position.
I fail to see how I would be a conservative on other topics since I'm pro gay marriage, abortion, some social democratic measures and hell a bunch of other shit. Plus, not a republican. Rather than argue with me about my alternative "conservative" solution, as opposed to heavier gun control, you chose to assign blame over actions of people I'm not associated with.

Cuban?

>retards literally saying grandma should be packing it's the only way she can protect herself
>when she's far more likely to hurt herself or a family member just owning a gun
>when pepper spray is a thing
>when attacks on little old ladies are not endemic but mass shootings are
God Bless America

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The only one looping here is you, because you can't see the consequences of enacting stupid laws.

you are fucking retarded. There's no real other options at this point.

[Chicken Laughter Stops]

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You are saying she should just let it happen?
washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/04/29/80-year-woman-shoots-and-kills-young-intruder-after-he-stabs-her-husband/?utm_term=.5eaf6cf4fcfa

Nikolas Cruz, Bosmer-looking motherfucker that was responsible for Stoneman Douglas & March For Our Lives

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>when pepper spray is a thing
You know those don't work that well right?

So...where are all the good men with guns when a shooting happens?
Why they never step up? That's the point of carrying a gun isn't?

You mean .700 nitro express

The question was not about your opinion as conservative. It was about what mainstream conservatism proposes.

>when attacks on little old ladies are not endemic but mass shootings are
Attacks on the elderly are much more common than mass shootings

Those thousands aren't dying because of mass shootings.

There's literally been multiple instances of those occurring but they get buried by the media. Like that church shooter or the guy that shot at the courthouse but didn't hit anyone.

"Might makes right" never stopped being the law of nature. If you can't defend yourself, you get what is coming to you. Incidentally, the average police response time is 5-10 minutes, which is more than enough time for an attacker to assault you and then get away

And instances of people accidentally killing themselves or a family member with their own gun is much more common than attacks on the elderly

really makes you think

>people shouldn't have rights because retards exist

Still wrong buddy

>guns are the only way to defend myself!
You're vastly more likely to harm yourself or a family member than an intruder when you own a gun.
Non-gun options for self-defense exist. Like stun guns, tasers, pepper spray, mace, canes, or just running away. The list goes fucking on.

Certainly not, but there have been 249 mass shootings in the US this year alone; hell, there were two just between yesterday and today, so let's not pretend for a second that it's not an issue anyway. There's way more gun violence in the US than Europe and there's retards above me that claimed otherwise.
And no I don't have a solution, I'm not a legislator, I'm simply stating facts. But I do know that pontificating about "mental health" every time a shooting happens and then shrug and shoot down (pin intended) every proposal to reform healthcare and mental health in the country just shows they simply do not give a solitary fuck about the issue.

He's not, he limited the self defense part to only Elderly instead of all types of self defense.

>Like that church shooter
The latest one in the mosque? Because he was stopped after he had already killed several folks, and that's because he ran in fear into his car, not because he was shot.

There were over 600K attacks on the elderly from 2002 to 2016 apparently, so no.

You want to know the best way to know who's full of shit? Details. Someone who has actually thought about something will have details, steps, will be able to outline how this situation is unique and how changes to it will change the situation.

Someone who is a complete moron repeating bullshit they've been convinced of will stick to single phrases or blanket generalities, often reducing incredibly complex issues to single sentences as if the world were just as simple as them.

Hmmmm....

>pepper spray
>effective
Are you 12?

There are over 100k gun-related injuries in the US per year.
Math is hard.

>2002 to 2016
Wow less than a million in 14 years

Gangs don’t do mass shootings, they find a guy they want to kill and they kill him.

Post a video of you being pepper sprayed
Or just pepper spray yourself and don't video it, either way I'll be happy

Then go ahead and do the same with bear mace

Less than a thousand accidental deaths each year due to gun

>stun guns, tasers
>not killing people and being able to be reloaded
> pepper spray, mace, canes
>working against a criminal with a knife
>running when you're 60
you know absolutely nothing about self defense.

The problem is that within the gun control movement there range a diversity of end positions ranging from "very slightly stricter gun laws" to "immediate confiscation of all guns." And generally speaking, the people who only want a little gun control aren't necessarily opposed to the ones who want more even if they don't support those beliefs. The people at the far end of gun control have their aims supported by people with more moderate positions and get no pushback from them either. Also gun control narrative has always been to ban guns; saying that you don't want to ban guns you just want to ban certain guns and increase the difficulty of owning and using the guns you don't ban would be like saying that you're pro-choice because you only want to ban abortions after 16 weeks, require a five day waiting period for abortions, require patient counselling and ultrasounds before they can get an abortion, ban all public funding for abortion clinics, and require the approval of the father instead of a total abortion ban.

lawenforcementtoday.com/four-five-mass-shootings-year-not-one-day/
The number is artificially inflated to make the problem seem bigger than it is. What most people consider a mass shooting is like 10+ people gunned down in the street, but the legal definition is at least 3. If a person goes berserk and kills their family, or a few gangsters are killed in a drive-by, those are labeled "mass shootings". It's lying by omission.

Interesting example you use, since the NFA that got passed in 1934 in direct response to the violence of Prohibition is why you don’t have street gangs and organized crime walking around with machine guns anymore.

We're discussing the elderly, correct? They'd be likely too physically disadvantaged compared to the attackers for any of those options (excepting maybe stun guns)

>You're vastly more likely to harm yourself or a family member than an intruder when you own a gun
Source me please

That's a very misleading figure. That said there is indeed more gun violence in the US than in Europe, of course. My question is, do gun laws prevent violence, or are there underlying reasons to such violence?
Like mental healthcare, income inequality and lack of access to basic services.
If you compare the US with say, Brazil, large multiethnic nation with a past or slavery and inequality, well, you'll notice that banning guns has no effect. If ou've got a poor, uneducated and very unevenly wealthy population with lots of racial divisions, it doesn't do much, much like Europe didn't really decrease its crime rates after enacting further controls.
I think the focus on guns detracts from fixing the "infrastructure" that allows a nation to be safe in the long term without risking individual rights.
>Inb4 commie

>uzis not a thing

Meanwhile in France a country with way less gun than the US.

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You said deaths vs attacks on the elderly Goalposts moving, stop.

>bro just carry bear mace around lmao
God this place is cringe

>The only viable self-defense weapon is a gun
>"you know nothing about self defence"
God I love Yea Forums

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it wasn't goal post moving he delibaretly chose a small number of elderly victims because he knew the numbers would be smaller than say all types of self defense.
He was arguing in bad faith and you fell for it.

Me too unfortunately this is 4channel, in a die note is Japanese Moot getting any money from the advertisers?

>thinks a old woman can run away from a criminal
>thinks pepper spray and maces are effective
>thinks stun guns are rapid fire
>chooses the most worthless types of self defense items
You don't

No this one npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/07/562483625/man-who-exchanged-fire-with-texas-shooter-i-was-scared-to-death

Garen J. Wintemute, Guns, Fear, the Constitution, and the Public’s Health, 358 New England J. Med. 1421-1424 (April 3, 2008)

Research published in the New England Journal of Medicine found that living in a home where there are guns increased risk of homicide by 40 to 170% and the risk of suicide by 90 to 460%.

Marty Langley & Josh Sugarmann, Firearm Justifiable Homicides and Non-Fatal Self-Defense Gun Use: An Analysis of Federal Bureau of Investigation and National Crime Victimization Survey Data, Violence Policy Center 1, 2 (Apr. 2013)

Study found that for every 1 instance of gun-related self-defense there were as many as 44 accidental deaths.

Pic is from the wikipedia list of massacres in Australia, who implemented stricter gun laws and a mandatory buyback of existing guns a few decades back. Even assuming that you could just grab firearms from the black market over there now, how would you explain the decreased rate in gun violence, or that so few of their gun-related attacks even breaking 10+ deaths?

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fuck you Yea Forumscuck

you realize "stun gun" is a colloquialism and they don't fire at all, right? Tasers fire.

Greater racial homogeneity

>>>/lolcow/

strict border control

they both fire

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>comparable to the black market prices in other nations
An AK will run you 3000 euros in France on the black market but $15,000 in Australia.

>he ever used the bathroom at home

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that's not why

user that is a taser.

A stun gun arcs between two metal prongs that do not fire. It is for use in close range.

Only because of suicides. Renting instead of owning property will also raise your risk of being shot, even if you don't own a firearm.

>only because of suicides
Nope.
See

I don't know man, it looks plenty powerful to me. Anything that can blow a hole clean through a man shouldn't be trifled with.

Well that was two years ago and I am not American so I cannot keep up with anything beyond the most recent ones, sorry. Good to know though.
Even if the numbers are "inaccurate" given legal definitions, it's still a high number if you focus on those where dozens were killed, and mincing words is frankly dumb when there's no solution anyway and people try to deflect blame. It's transparent because it shows unwillingness to do what needs to be done, whatever it is... Since not even the "mental health" haranguing is taken to a term.

>It's the fault of brown people, if they were never here in the first place, we wouldn't have to shoot them

Under some definitions of mass shooting, you don't actually need a shooter or a gun. I can throw a shotshell into a campfire, and it counts as long as at least 3 people are injured, no matter how seriously.

scoobandshag.com/

Enjoy the ride of crazy user. I love the series and donate to the creator. Thinking about picking up the Scoob sticker pack.

Those are either police or millitary, civillian ownership in israel is very restricted

Everyone in Israel is military, it's a requirement for citizenship.

>he says about Australians
good talk user

THANK YOU, I even forgot I asked this until your post. Crazy how a thread got so derailed that you don't even know what was supposed to be about in first place.

The fuck are you talking about? If you have strong borders and can check whats coming in. then drugs and guns are infinitely hard to come in

Wrong

>Anytime a foreigner complains about America.
Look, people kill people. Doesn't matter if they use guns, vehicles, bombs, hands, or a board with a nail in it. It sucks but humanity will never change. Whether you blame it on racism, sexism, education, or economical issues. I would rather live in a world where I can owe a gun for defense in case some idiot decides to break into my house and threaten my family than have the same actions occur.

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oh hey look some actual fucking numbers are presented and suddenly no one wants to talk about them

weak-minded faggots, go back to sucking Reagan's mummified cock

ALL THE OTHER KIDS WITH THE PUMPED UP KICKS

Fucking mods, I've been able to make threads on Yea Forums for months because of a bullshit range ban but this off-topic thread gets to stay up for almost 500 replies.

so it is

How come the Uggojesse thread got deleted but this gets to stay up?

not to self, do not fuck with finnish people

Sorry, I assumed your point about borders was race-related like that other response. Being able to limit firearms coming in makes sense

>what are cops

>He was probably thinking that he lived in a crime-ridden hellhole
but then he'd understand the need to own a gun

>Yea Forums discussing politics

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it was statistically a black on black crime soo...

if America was an island like Japan/Australia/Singapore, the drug and gun shit would be a lot different

I know, this is ridiculous. I knew Yea Forums had shit taste sometimes but this is unbelievable. Never thought I'd miss arguing over how buff She-Hulk should be. Correct answer: nothing less than pic related

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That's not what he said, he said "What were you thinking having a gun where a child could get to it?"

Did She-Hulk get use of her mind again yet?

I hate each and everyone of you piss stained retards.

Some of you believe that denying millions of Americans their constitutional rights is going to cause a drop is mass violence, when it won't. All you'll be doing is taking the guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens who will not be able to defend themselves as effectively from violence anymore.

Then the other side stars crowing about "MUH NIGGERS" and spewing out "statistics" which got debuked years ago. You morons will blather on and on about "the reality of race" in order to pretend that you're somehow superior to any other given human on the planet.

You shit gobbling retards all fucking deserve each other, and I pray hat each and everyone of you gets killed in the next mass shooting.

Except Switzerland and Finland (The ones in red for the geographically challenged) where in the case of Finland, every person is a member of the reserve army and has their own weapon and uniform ready to be called up inside of a day. And Switzerland which has a similar system but does demand that you keep it locked up.

Both of these give you military class weapons and train you extensively on their use, and yet they don't go around shooting up schools.

>lol kids die but it sucks oh well
I hope your family dies tomorrow, then let’s see you nope about with “it sucks, but muh guns”

Such is the way of political threads on Yea Forums, the mod usually lets them run their course, and rarely deletes or autosages them. It's crazy.
Pic related is the sweet spot.

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Not in japan i won't

Kinda, she decided to stay overly beefy and become an edgelord.

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yep, you folks sure love your tyrants

>I hope your family dies tomorrow
that escalated quickly, i thought you were all for love and peace

>stay overly beefy
Thats fine
>and become an edgelord
Disappointing

Fine, mass stabbing then.

I agree completely, I like 'em big but Stan Lee always wanted Jen to be fun.

>I thought you were for love and peace
Common mistake.
I hope your kids die in a car fire.

fucker

africa doesn't need any help being destabilized, we didn't destabilize the middle east for our own immediate gain, and china is fair game for all they've done to destabilize the west

The lowest estimate of defensive gun usage comes from David Hemenway, who is cited in your examples, and he gives 127 DGUs per year, which would mean that there are 5x as many accidental firearm deaths as there on record by the FBI and CDC according to the Langley and Sugarmann study.

Hemenway, D; Solnick, SJ (October 2015). "The epidemiology of self-defense gun use: evidence from the National Crime Victimization Surveys 2007-2011". Preventive Medicine. 79: 22–7.

Gun violence across the Western world has been on a downtrend since the 90s and there is no significant or noticeable deviation from that trend pre- or post-gun control in Australia.

How quickly you reverted to the "so much for the tolerant left" routine.

i hope your family members are raped and the politicians cover up the crimes

It's the only country where in 2018 there was almost a mass shooting (4 or more dead) per day. I think it came out as 238 or something similar.

The idea that banning guns will leave guns "in the hands of criminals" is fucking retarded and ignores every single logistical step between gun manufacture and gun ownership.

Where's my yandere gf, Hiroshi?

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>people should be physically harmed for having opinions i don't agree with
and that ladies and gentlemen is why we still have guns

lol it sucks BUT oh well. Right?

Well you aren't exactly tolerant, it's not for me i know you aren't so few of you can see the cognitive dissonance. The more self righteous a person the less good i think he is, and you prove my point in a matter of minutes

"How many mass shootings have been stopped by someone with a gun" is a trick question. Since mass shootings are defined entirely by victim count, if a person with a gun stopped a rampage before the criteria was met then a mass shooting never occurred - and thus doesn't count - while if the criteria is met then a mass shooting wasn't stopped.

Replace that with a semiautomatic and a backpack full of ammo and a Glock on the side, all of which a kid can find at Walmart or a gun show or his dad's bedroom.

yep, let me tell you secret even if thats exactly what happened i'll still support gun rights because

most americans aren't well informed about the gun debate. if they were, they'd realize there is no debate.

So you can shoot them instead? Flawless logic.
Ben Shapiro is still an imbecile.
>it's not for me i know you aren't so few of you can see the cognitive dissonance
Say what? In English, please.

So the answer is never, because if they did, they wouldn't count.

how many people do you think were stoned to death in your country yesterday?

You're not a good person, you don't care about people. This just about looking good not because you actually give a damn about people.

This thread is going nowhere, post buff Yea Forums girls.

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Gun control in the UK is so good that the police know almost every gun that is used in crime inside the country, they have the ballistics on file and people suspected of carrying them at any time. All it takes is effort and time to tackle rampant gun crime. The USA doesn't want to put in the effort and so just lives with the consequences, justifying them in the name of freedom.

Even assuming that your interpretation is correct and there are 5x fewer accidental firearm deaths, and I do not make that assumption, you'd still be at a ratio of 1 self-defense action to 9 accidental deaths.

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Now it`s just like any other day in American schools

Remember when the current US president voiced an intent to push for gun regulations and then White House went back on this after the NRA paid a visit?

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They only have a few phrases to choose from

Soon they'll tell you to "dilate" and call you an "NPC"

How about a sarin gas attack then. Is that more your speed?

None because I don't live in Saudi Arabia.
That's a helluva lot of projection there, dear gentlesir.
And after a mildly heated response, "seethe".

>the US doesn't want to put in the effort
It's far more likely that it comes down to economic incentive (guns are big business in america) and the sheer magnitude of the propaganda produced by the wealthy since the 80's.

more like seething because thats all you can do, dream about killing other peoples family members

you have no idea what you're talking about, we've never wholesale banned guns

You wish death on other peoples families and you think you're a good person? In what fucking reality do you live in>

>implying the wealthy aren't the ones that want to ban guns

>And after a mildly heated response, "seethe".
Damn you're good

>physical prowless to handle a firearm
shooting a pistol isn't exactly powerlifting retard

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That wasn't me, I didn't wish death upon anyone. I only replied with "so much for the tolerant left" to mock you and you accused me of being a psychopath.

> be filled with intense but unexpressed anger.
It fits though

Yeah those cunts bankrolling the NRA are poor as fuck.

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Never said we did cletus

The thing everyone forgets about the Winter War is that Finland still lost.

The idea wasn't to give teachers guns you idiots, it was to enable the ones that already own them and know how to handle them responsibly to bring them to school in order to protect their students from intruders.

Because you literally defended a person that wished for mass death? Tell me does doing that make you a good person?

fucking weird right? it's almost like they're choosing soft targets on purpose.

...

god I love Ashi's monkey face. I should be ashamed but I'm too horny to be.

>improve mental health
We might be able to do that if we had universal healthcare.

It's not an interpretation. Saying that there 44 accidental firearms deaths for every 1 DGU is outright incompatible with actual statistics. You can't just say "whoops, I actually mean 9 deaths per DGU instead of 44" because that means there is an underlying issue with the study's methodology. Most studies about DGU, even the ones used by gun control groups, put DGUs in the thousands per year. Beyond that, the lowest estimates has 1/3 of Americans owning at least one gun, do you really think that when you're talking about 100 million people and 3x that number of guns that there would only be 127 DGUs per year?

Save it for /pol/, this thread's enough of a trainwreck already.

I'm sorry, are you seriously trying to tell me that the gun industry and gun lobby that provides over 500 million dollars in donations to NRA, not including the private PAC donations it funnels through puppets, isn't wealthy? That they don't spend that money to protect their financial interests?

That's your stance?

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Only if i use the subways
those are unicorns

The police shouldn’t have guns either. Go full UK at this point, I don’t give a fuck.

Then move there.

yes, you can be sarcastic but the money comes from 2nd amendments supporters, not billionaires like bloomberg or democrats who want to ban firearms while still carrying them.

>you can't just say "whoops I actually mean 9 not 44"
I didn't. You did. Now you want to walk that back too?

>DGU's are actually a thousand times more common!
And yet you didn't post a citation like you did last time.

>do you really think with that many gun owners there's only 127 DGU's a year?
That's what the stats say, so yes.

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>7 million
wrong

>read actual article
>Hemenway is only one of many sources for the figures
>Go to look at Hemenway's paper
>it's all about how the statistics you're defaulting to have huge methodology problems
I'm laughing my fucking tits off

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Rent is too expensive

Post the tits

>but with tanks, drones, and other advanced weaponry owned by the gov, it's just not possible anymore.
you're too young to remember afghanistan or iraq you shouldn't be posting here

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>In 2005, in this country, 30,694 people died from gunshot wounds; 17,002 cases were suicides, 12,352 were homicides, and 1340 were accidental, police-related, or of undetermined intent
The rate of accidental deaths caused by gun ownership being ~4% at most sounds like a good enough tradeoff for me

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well we did give them a whole lot more than just AKs and a whole lot of money

>random Gotham citizen who just snapped causing more mayhem and death than ever did in their entire careers.
death maybe depends on the character
mayhem no doesn't depend on the character

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We've already hit post limit, just give up, there's nothing else to say on the matter.

>Even the joker will be disgusted
He'd find it hilarious.

This is depressing.

Fucking finally.

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I know, I was just about to post some good lolis.

user, you can actually look up the NRA's assets and spending as it's a registered lobbying organization. Their biggest strength is being able to consistently get voters to the polls and coordinating direct voter advocacy to politicians, not their money.

You're the one who said that it didn't matter because it's still 9:1 instead of 44:1. As for statistics:

Violence Policy Center, a gun control advocacy group, 67,740 DGUs per year.
vpc.org/studies/justifiable.pdf

Gun Violence Archive, another gun control advocacy group, puts DGUs at 2,043 in 2017.
gunviolencearchive.org/past-tolls

Why tf didn't you do it earlier and get this shit thread deleted?

you could a have done it too

>user, you can actually look up the NRA's assets and spending as it's a registered lobbying organization.
Look up what a PAC is you fucking cretin

>you're the one who said it didn't matter
I said that if your numbers were right it wouldn't change the point, which it didn't. You're the one who then threw out your own numbers.
See

Think of the advertisers, user!
I didn't because I'm a Yea Forums pass user and I wouldn't want it to be revoked since I wouldn't be able to post at all

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>the largest, most well-funded and technologically-advanced military in the entire history of civilization.
yawn. it's really not that great user.
there are about as many cops in the us as there are active us military members worldwide. a force of 1% of the population would outnumber them both combined several times over, and that's assuming there are no defectors lol
if our wars in the middle east have taught you nothing else, it should be that the greatest fighting force on the planet is useless if you can't resupply it

I'd honestly be tempted to get a pass if I wasn't tryna save money, I want to be able to shitpost about KOTOR on Yea Forums again.

>Poisoning Saint Louis.
...Go on.

I mean, considering the annual price, it's pretty cheap. Beats the alternative (lurking like an idiot unable to call people out on their shit)

Honestly minor compared to the other examples in the meme en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_LAC

They used a "secret weapon" that was supposed to hide targets from soviet airstikes but was in fact a biological weapon that gave people cancer.

this. we especially need to ban live video streaming, social media and community forums altogether so something like this can never happen again.

opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000000082&year=2019
>But the PACs!
Either show a source of the NRA having hundreds of millions of dollars in donations and funnelling said money into PACs, we're waiting.

Also the argument was that the Langley and Sugarmann paper was wrong and that 44 accidental deaths per DGU doesn't line up with even the most conservative estimate of DGUs when compared to actual death records.

or maybe you should take some personal responsibility and stop taking internet strangers so seriously

>we didn't destabilize the middle east for our own immediate gain
What did he mean by this?

chicago

you just got btfo user

gun prices will increase 100 fold
god you're stupid

what percent of norway's population is black?

>That dude in vegas did that and injured over 400 people.
lol no
most of those people were injured by other people

so you have nothing to support your argument

>yokel fucks
there he goes again, trying to strawman the vast majority of america into the other. surely it will work this time.

but you did?

yeah the determined minotity that supported the american revolution should have just kept their mouths shut

>little old lady fires a pistol
>breaks her wrist
if shes packing one of those retarded meme guns sure

yes, keep making a fool of yourself

>Either show a source of the NRA having hundreds of millions of dollars in donations and funnelling said money into PACs
It's the reverse.
Do you not know how PAC's work?

>show records of wealthy people donating to an entity that is literally defined by its purpose of hiding the identity of its donors

they'd stop pretending that white terrorist mass shootings are significant to gun violence in the us

there's a difference between subjugation and annihilation. sure if the US government decides to cull it's population then no, armed civillians will do precisely dick, but if the goal is to suppress them then the guns will help more than you can imagine

I'm not the one claiming that the NRA is secretly receiving and funneling hundreds of millions of dollars through PACs.

Fun fact!
Certain weapons being banned is a different argument from all weapons being banned like who I was replying to suggested
Also that's more on the fact it makes it insanely obvious who would be tracked down by law enforcement

>But nobody is calling for a ban on all weapons
, yet.
or are you unfamiliar with how the slippery slope works?

that's not very convenient to his nonargument though

got you covered user

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Plenty of people within the gun control movement call for complete bans regularly.

60% of all gun deaths are suicides
you're more likely to harm yourself than anyone else

I see it constantly what are you talking about

yeah, very wrong. diane fienstein is an israeli citizen and she wouldn't even know which way to point a gun.

what a compelling, logical argument for people to give up their guns and empower crazy assholes who want harm to come to them

>So you can shoot them instead?
strawman. should i just assume that you don't have a counter argument then?

Dianne Feinstein had both a concealed carry permit and carried a gun on her person in the 90s.

>None because I don't live in Saudi Arabia.
you were talking about the UK, so yes you basically do

>ad hominem, that'll show him
thank you for your capitulation

it was a net loss by all standards

and she doesn't know which way to point it

Have Sex

Because now your society is crumbling from inequality and other bad shit that used to be able to be swept under the rug.