>signs a contract that says DC will own Watchmen until they stop printing it
>DC doesn’t stop printing it because it sells well
>”DC FUCKED ME OVER, THEY TRICKED ME”
Wow, what a genius author
>signs a contract that says DC will own Watchmen until they stop printing it
>DC doesn’t stop printing it because it sells well
>”DC FUCKED ME OVER, THEY TRICKED ME”
Wow, what a genius author
He comes off as a drooling retard in every interview. I think his stuff is ghost written by someone else.
he should have just written a shit story that nobody would like
I thought he didn’t want any merchandise either but DC rolled out a Watchman Watch and he REEE’d hard.
The issue is that a few of the print runs were printed at a loss just so they could keep the charcaters. So that's shitty but that said, Moore and Gibbons weren't new to comics at the time, they had enough clout to tell DC to fuck off if they didn't like the deal and just do Watchmen elsewhere
No the part where they fucked him over was the contract also said he and Gibbons would receive a royalties from all Watchmen merchandise. DC started making shirts, watches, and buttons, etc so they go ' where's our money?' DC said those were " promotional items" not merchandise so they didn't have to pay them anything
That was one of the two things that made him leave DC, the other was the proposal of a ratings system that also lead to Miller, Chaykin, and some others leaving the company for a time
it's kinda sad that said contract was at the time seen as a victory for creators (as it means they could eventually own their work) and it was part of why moore and gibbons signed it, to help pave the way for others. now it seems obvious they shouldn't have trusted DC, but at the time they were trying to make things right
The entire reason they put that clause in was to have a way to give him the rights to his story, something no one did at the time. We can look back and see how stupid it was but at the time it was a great deal considering no one else at DC even got a chance at keeping their shit.
Full of his own importance even though he tries to hide it behind his 'quirky' snowflake-ism.
I think it's a cultural clash. Authors are viewed as tools easily disposable in burgerland
A lot of authors and creators are just good at making stuff and don't know shit about anything else, and to be fair business is a complicated world where everyone is trying to screw everyone else over for as much as they can and if you're new to that world you WILL be screwed over.
Shhhhhh, it's hip for Nu/co/ to hate on Alan Moore, and you're going to spoil the mood!
Oh the American comic industry wishes it could turn back time to the 40's and 50's before author credits and when artists were just workers turning out page rates in an assembly line style studio
The current conditions discourage young writers to get into the American comic book industry. That remind me of a story when a teen Mark Millar met Stan Lee and told him that he was his hero and he wanted to get into the industry for writing Spider-man. Then Lee replied that when he was his age, he loved Batman and Tarzan but he didn't dream with writing Batman and Tarzan issues but instead doing his own thing (Lee originally wanted to be a sci-fi author) and that he found weird how many young fans wanted to write about the established characters instead of creating their own.
>this thread
>ratings system
Wat
That's not even remotely what happened.
Alan Moore is the ultimate bootlicker, signing contracts that are obviously gonna fuck him in the ass
They never went through with it, but at some point Jenette Kahn sent a letter to their freelancers saying DC was going to create three ratings Universal, Mature, and Adult. Some of the freelancers objected to it, a few left DC, and Marv Wolfman who as an editor publicly criticized the company for it ( and he was fired because of that)
and then Mark Millar thought, "What if Batman was a cunt?"
First off, you clearly have no idea of what happened, OP.
Secondly, you are really getting annoying with those Moore hate threads, we are talking Tommy-level of autism here.
Lmao fuck off
DC fans deserve modern DC comics
Was there something more behind this? On the face of it, it doesn't sound too bad.
>MARGARET THATCHUUUUUUUUUUH!
He's been quiet because Damon Lindelof put this treebeard fuck in his place like the cuck that he is.
Based Lindelof
I hated Alan more before it was cool.
I was cool before I hated Alan Moore
Wait, what happened?
>Lindeloff made the comments during the Television Critics Association press tour, addressing Moore’s decision to distance himself from the project.
>“I don’t think that I’ve made peace with it,” he said. “Alan Moore is a genius, in my opinion, the greatest writer in the comic medium and maybe the greatest writer of all time. He’s made it very clear that he doesn’t want to have any association or affiliation with Watchmen ongoing and that we not use his name to get people to watch it, which I want to respect.”
>He claimed that his decision to go ahead with the show anyway is ‘channelling the spirit of Alan Moore’.
>“I do feel like the spirit of Alan Moore is a punk rock spirit, a rebellious spirit, and that if you would tell Alan Moore, a teenage Moore in ’85 or ’86, ‘You’re not allowed to do this because Superman’s creator or Swamp Thing’s creator doesn’t want you to do it,’ he would say, ‘Fuck you, I’m doing it anyway.’"
No he didn't. In fact lindelof acted like child and when the series comes out it'll only prove that he's a hack.
“So I’m channelling the spirit of Alan Moore to tell Alan Moore, ‘Fuck you, I’m doing it anyway.’”
Truly, it all comes full-circle.
This started because he was pissy that he didn't get moore's blessing because no one was ever going to get moore's blessing on this shit.
>a teenage Moore in ’85 or ’86,
Alan Moore was 33 in 1985...
>Moore:"I want to use DC characters for this Watchmen story I've been working on."
>DC:"No. Fuck off"
>Lindelof:"I want to use your characters for this show"
>Moore:"REEEEE NO YOU CAN'T!!"
Moore even past over that issue and try to find a compromise, but the autistic way of Levitz of handle things made he finally quits of them when they edited the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
You sure have been creating a lot of Alan Moore hate threads recently, user.
Even with the same picture
What's wrong? Did Alan Moore hurt you?
Its a subtle foreshadowing on how well the tv show is going to be
Steve Ditko created every single one of those characters. You're a fool if you think Alan Moore should get any credit for it anyway.
Alan Moore fanboys are the most annoying comics fans by far.
The same age as Jesus
explains his looks desu
For our current world teenage goes from 13 to 35
quints speak the truth
FUCK the comics industy
It's not just that he signed the deal, it's that the execs convinced him it was a good idea and that he'd definitely get the rights.
He's said he knows he signed the contract and fair is fair, it's just that he was basically misled and the execs took advantage of his trust in their advice.
>he was basically misled
Reading the high-school level essay at the end of From Hell shows that he's an uneducated man who really thinks he knows a lot. BTW From Hell was a lazy assembly of ideas lifted from some well researched books written in the early 80s.
He's an industrious hack and calling him the 'most whatever whatever' is just marketing hype. Calling him out for being an average joe is dumb.
Comics in general is full of meh work that has to be hyped to sell it. Even the publishing houses are crammed with shit-tier business people who will do lame shit to shift units. When something sells or is a fad, you just know there's going to be some retarded squabbling sounds.
If he was misled he'd have a case, he wasn't.
>lazy
>industrious
Make up your mind.
Steve Ditko was an edgy antisocial faggot too drunk on objectivism. Alan Moore gave his characters more soul then Ditko ever had.
He isn't claiming to have a case. He knows he agreed to terms and is getting what he signed. The thing that pissed him off was he thought the editors were his friends and were giving him a good deal, when really they knew he was never getting the rights back.
This is Moore's issue, he thought DC was a place for creatives and he feels like that move revealed them to be a soulless corporation that doesn't care about the creators. He's never said he was treated unfairly or that he's legally entitled to anything and he's said he's more mad at himself for trusting a corporation.
>when really they knew he was never getting the rights back.
Isn't the whole reason they got the deal in the first place was that no one expected it to be so popular and seminal to the industry that it would never go out of print? Everyone thought it would have a typical trajectory of sales and importance and naturally reach of point where continuing to print it was largely pointless, so the deal seemed pretty good and a natural one to make.
And what, spend what money he had on a lengthy case against DC's army of lawyers who would most likely stall everything as much as possible in order to bankrupt him?