Gen Xers used to consider 1998-2004 the downfall of pop culture and the cancerous teen pop / nu metal / trl / mike...

Gen Xers used to consider 1998-2004 the downfall of pop culture and the cancerous teen pop / nu metal / trl / mike scully simpsons era. People kept saying "1993-1997 was the true 90s" or "That 98-99 pokemon britney nsync crap wasn't true 90s, felt more like proto-2000s".

But nowadays, you have people in their late 20s on Buzzfeed/Twitter saying 1998-2004 was the golden age of pop culture or "the 90sest era ever", and consider anything before 1998 to be outdated/overrated/not interesting for them. A complete reversal in opinions.

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The lesson is, if you primarily base your identity on the mass produced media products you watched as a kid you're human garbage and should be euthanized.

Yes, this is the real takeaway

Okay, thanks.

The 90s ended with 2002.

>That 98-99 pokemon britney nsync crap wasn't true 90s, felt more like proto-2000s".

Millenial here, and I kinda agree. If you break it up into blocks, "the late 80s to mid 90s" and "the late 90s to mid 00s" feel more like blocks than "the 90s" and "the 00s". System of a Down, South Park, Steve Austin, and early 3D gaming vs. Metallica, The Simpsons, Hulk Hogan, and Nintendo vs. Sega.

The '90s weren't real

I don’t really care I just hope some kind of a solar storm lashes the planet and renders all of our modern technology useless so I can strap all my necessary worldly possessions to my back and sharpen off a big stick and head for the hills to live in a cave while the unwashed masses of humanity panic and tear each other apart in the streets so the main issues that I am currently concerned with would be legitimate ones like starvation, exposure or being killed with a steel wire ligature around my throat by crazed ex-suburbanites in the middle of the night in pitch black in my cliff-side hollow shelter instead of this stupid shit.

The cultural 90s ended with 9/11 like the cultural 80s ended when the cold war ended , the cultural 70s ended when Raegan was elected. the cultural 60s ended with watergate the, cultural 50s ended when jfk got shot the cultural 40s ended when WW2 ended, the cultural 30s ended when ww2 started and the cultural 20s ended with the great depression.

no.........................

it always was the late 90s, period
anyone who says that it was the golden age is wrong.

fuck you all

Every generation thinks the next generations is the worst in history.
The big twist: they're all correct.

The cultural 00s ended with the recession and the cultural 10s is still going strong

>It's actually just a list of periods between recession

> People kept saying "1993-1997 was the true 90s" or "That 98-99 pokemon britney nsync crap wasn't true 90s, felt more like proto-2000s".

They're right.

t. oldfag millennial

Everyone has forgotten about Gen Xers. The conversation now is only about boomers, millennials, and zoomers.

I’m 27 and don’t remember anything before 2010

Millennials should be euthanized period.

Decades don't actually change on the X0's but rather on the X5's.
What people think of as the 80's didn't true begin until 85, since 80-84 where just the dying years of the 70's, and it bleed heavily into the 90's, and was only replaced by what people think of as the 90's in 95. Same goes for the end of the 90's in 05 and the 00's in 15.

My golden childhood years were 1998-2000; it all went downhill after that.

WHO THE FUCK CARRRRREEEESSS

It’s not like anyone is gonna go “aw man internet people think my childhood was bad I guess it was bad”. The truth is there was never a downfall, it’s just that things change. The cartoons changed, the music changed, duh. Why do you think people are nostalgic about the early 2010s now? Stop spamming this agebait
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I'd say the cultural 80s ended in 1993 when Clinton took office, gangsta rap was in full swing, and hair metal fully fell off the charts (people forget this, but Nirvana shared chart space with hair metal at first instead of killing it immediately like people think). Looking at commercials, songs, styles, etc. from 1990-1992 it felt like it an awkward extension of the late 80s.

>Same goes for the end of the 90's in 05 and the 00's in 15.
People used to say the 2010s began early in 2008-2009, because of the Recession, iphones, Facebook, Obama, James cameron's avatar, HDTV, Lady gaga, Katy perry, Justin bieber, etc. feeling markedly different from 2004-2007.

But now 15 year old Zoomers whose first memories were in 2008-2009 are saying "Everyone knows the 2000s didn't end until 2013", since their first memories were then, similar to 27 y/o Millennials thinking 98-99 was peak 90s and it ended in 2004.

OP do you think maybe you're trying to compare the opinions of different people at different points in time and gather some kind of meaningful metric from it, even though that's insane

>It’s not like anyone is gonna go “aw man internet people think my childhood was bad I guess it was bad”. The truth is there was never a downfall, it’s just that things change. The cartoons changed, the music changed, duh. Why do you think people are nostalgic about the early 2010s now?
Yeah, you right. Remember when ranters like Benthelooney hated late 00s-early 10s stuff like Adventure time? Now that stuff is beloved and nostalgic after zoomers took over the internet.

I wouldn't really group the mid 90s with late 80s/early 90s. Mid 90s felt like its own thing, while early 90s were an extension of the late 80s.

Kinda wrong, though. Sega Genesis, Mortal Kombat, Lion King etc are as 90s as it gets, barred say, A Goofy Movie, that's the only one after 95.

It went to shit with boomers and spiraled downhill from there

You know how the saying goes.

>SNL was better 10 years ago

Millenial here. It's tough to say whether the worst generation is the boomers or mine. The boomers ensured that Marxism survived losing the logical and empirical argument (ESPECIALLY because the ones who claimed to be the defenders of freedom were massive authoritarians and were extremely gullible in the face of the sophistry of big business; the conservatives have never had a coherent counter-message, because they don't really believe in leaving people alone to live their lives and deal with the consequences of their own decisions), while the millenials represent the peak of feeling entitled to having the world be built around their comfort. Both generations are extremely selfish. Gen X is also horrible for their role in building the millenials; you don't get these emotional babies without the nihilistic single mothers who raised them. The current western world is being ran by gen X and the millenials, and the culture is almost dead as a result.

Gen Y has potential to be an amazing generation. They were raised entirely under the uncertainty of the post-9/11 world, facing declining wealth and growing insanity. They're not as institutionalist as past generations, and they're waking up to the idea that economics don't JUST WERK much earlier than any other generation currently alive. It's a shame that they're going to have the millenials burdening them.

>You're a self-hating millenial.

I don't hate myself. I just hate most of the people who were raised in the same time period that I was.

The 90s as a whole were shit and the only good parts of it were the leftovers from the 80s.

Generational Gaps make sense up until Gen-X. Everything after is a mishmash of different naming conventions no one can settle on, from the vague millenial to Gen Z (apparently we skipped Y?) to something called 'Xennials". I was born in 1995, what am I?

Pretty sure the 2010s began at 2013. The Mayans were right when they said the world as we know would end in 2012.

The millenials are sometimes called Gen Y. The break between Y and Z is 9/11 and the great recession. The developmental years of the millenials were during a time of peace and stability. Gen Z was brought up in a post-9/11 world. It's really one of the clearest breaks that you could ask for.

>I was born in 1995, what am I?
If you grew up watching Ben 10 and Phineas & Ferb like someone born in 2000 then you're a zoomer. If you grew up watching dexters lab and samurai jack like someone born in 1990 then you're a millennial. If you watched all then you're somewhere in between most likely

This is a collosal development, OP. You need to take this to the sociology journals immediately

Middle aged guy here.

You're delusional. Literally nothing in your post ever happened. No one ever said any of that.

This guy gets it.

these were my favorite cartoons growing up:
Ed, Edd, n Eddy
Grim and Mandy
Teen Titans

Somewhere in between?

Billy and Mandy* my bad

They ONLY say the “early 2000s still counts as the 1990s!” because despite the 2000s being their actual childhood, they want to feel like they’re 90s kids (since 1990s is seen as cooler).

The early 2000s has a completely distinctive style from the 1990s. Anyone older than 10 at the time would remember this.

>t. Idiot porn in 1990

The 90s would have kept going well into the 2000s were it not for the massive and sudden shift in the cultural zeitgeist late into 2001.

Yes, I am saying that 9/11 was a good thing.