Seriously though, how the fuck could the Hulk outsell Batman three months in a row? Is King's Batman that fucking awful?

A lesser focused aspect of The incredible Hulk is the inner turmoil of Bruce and "the green guy". The hulk is the manifestation of Bruce's internal angst, and dark impulses and the child-like personality was a reflection of it's origin "his very troubled childhood"

>Pretend that Immortal Hulk doesnt try to sell itself as a horror series

????????????

>how the fuck could the Hulk outsell Batman three months in a row?
Maybe Immortal Hulk is currently one of the best books on the market..?

Lol grow up

>horror
They said that about like issue one and never since. Feels like you're the type of retard that reads the pasta in every thread and agrees.

I mean, yeah.
Most Batman stories are him being vulnerable and failing, because he didn't have prep time, and then comes back after prep time to win, but it ends up being a double-edged victory.

How new do you have to be to think this matters?

There is no depth to ongoing Batman comics, least of all under king.

Let's be honest here guys, if you're a grown man reading either one you're probably not all that bright.

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This. Patricians read intelligent, mature series.

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The current ones, I agree.
That doesn't nake Immortal Hulk good.
Everything the big two have been shitting out has been awful lately, and the only way any of it almost sort of even appears passable is by comparing it to each other.

What are some comics?

Drugs And Wires
10 Earth Shattering Blows
Escape from Terra

yea top 10 has never anything to do with quality

Indeed, i wouldn't compare Hulk, an actual story with structure, with the garbage that Batman is, people should stop doing that.

This is the power of Ewing!

So why would you say:
If you didn't why respond as if you were that user?

Kys nobody cares about your trash that nobody reads. And EFT is almost a decade old.

Let be honest you have a couple more weeks off before you go back to school and those of us who read cape shit have to go to work in an hour (on the east coast).

Only faggots shit on capeshit.

Webcomics aren't good. Not a single one of them. Least of all your faggot ass friends' webcomic.

I like Order of the Stick.

Absolutely, have you read it?

Why is Hulk's head turning into M.O.D.O.K?

Yeah probably best to only admit that anonymously.

I have on irl friend who also likes it. Deal with it.

You mean comics going back to being entertaining? Comics no longer being the equivalent of mid day soap operas? Or SJW bullshit? Please do.

I appreciate your sarcasm.

Some people pull the multiple variants and speculator market argument while implying (and even neglecting to mention) that this is somehow unique to Immortal Hulk, as if a lot of other series in Marvel and DC weren't doing these alongside reprints. No, this isn't new.

The real unique thing here is momentum; unlike other series, which start at a certain amount of issue sales and slowly begin losing numbers over time (excluding the #1 sales, which often are misleading), IH retains and gains new readers over time. That is why despite the uptick people noticed after #16, it didn't stop there. That's why other series by more hyped writers within Marvel can't exactly compete, because readers lose interest over time and orders decrease.

But why do people keep reading it? It's boring, badly drawn and relies on shocking violence and gore. It's Gantz -tier.

Not to mention people forget that this series is the only one go got increasing sales instead of decreasing ones, this hasn't happened in years.

You are simply a retard, there is nothing more to add to it.

It's neither boring nor badly written, if that were the case, it would be bleeding readers. It's as simple as that, you don't get to these numbers with other series without relaunches every month (seriously).
Also there's way edgier comics out there, and those don't get this amount of attention. Body horror is neither gore nor violence exclusively, though it overlaps.
I mean, it's quite obvious to anyone who actually sits down to read it, I shouldn't have to explain this.

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The body horror in IH to me seems like a far cry from just being "shocking violence and gore" (a label I would apply to something like Crossed, not this) It's actually creative with how Hulk's transformation, healing factor and enemies can be portrayed horrifically, emphasizing the unnatural and bizarre nature of these radiation-mutated monsters. The art you call bad is actually really good at selling this idea, which is vital because that idea is central to the story they're telling. I don't think it's boring either, because it keeps pushing the envelope, and building to new climaxes while all the while, each issue has some kind of stand-out horrific or hype moment.

>They said that about like issue one and never since

Literally who

Why you lying tho?

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>I just hope it doesn't get muddied up by having to get pulled into an event every three months.

It bypassed War of Realms entirely by just having Joe Fixit go on a weeks-long bender during the entire event and having Bruce wake up afterwards with no memory of what had happened. There's going to be a one-shot Absolute Carnage tie-in dealing with General Ross, but it seems to me that Ewing is basically using that as a means to advance his own plot, which is the smart way to use an event. So far I think that good judgment is being shown on this count.

It never stopped being horror. Ironically you're like the guy who claims it's all capeshit fights when it isn't, it should've been obvious by the time they stepped into hell, when Metatron explains what is Hell and the nature of the One Below All compared to Hulk. That shit ain't for the average person who wants Hulk Smash.

damn, that book is so good.

It's very likely that Ewing said during the pitch process that he didn't want the book pulled into events. Look at what he did in the Defenders mini (which he still wrote), he did a specific tie-in that loosely fitted within specific issues, but it didn't affect the rest. The same will happen with Absolute Carnage, and likely every other small event that tangentially affects the series.
I'm actually wondering how will Ewing explain Hulk's appearance in Fantastic Four #12, since it wasn't him but the Puppet Master manipulating him, yet it's still a departure from his usual beating grounds.

>Batman has psychological depth.
>Batman is vulnerable and can fail

Kek. Batman has been in full Batgod mode for a long time. We've reached the point where Superman is the underdog whenever they fight now.

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I wasn't reading Batman since issue #50. Did I miss anything?

people are just getting tired of the over used and over exposed batman, who dc crams into every book in the hopes it will sell (because batman is their only character that sells)

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>someone wh
Someone while... some while what? user are you okay? Candlejack can't have gotten you because you didn't say his name in that sentenc

>Batman has psychological depth
Tom King's Batman is mentaly 12 years old that is stuck on "bad man killed my parents".

Don't know, that's when I gave up on it too.

Oh come on, it is way too early for that meme to b

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Immortal Hulk was very good (not great) like a year ago. It's drifted down to average pointless capeshit since, but finally the (m)asses caught up and realized it WAS a good title.
It's also being overshipped some.

But yeah King's Batman is terrible. And don't forget that DC does non-incentive A and B variant covers, meaning that its numbers are inflated too.

How fucking backwards is your brain that a book outselling ALL of the consistently highest selling franchises must mean that it's because the highest selling franchises are bad and not because the odd book out is just really good

I'm so tired of you newfags, seriously

While sales almost NEVER have anything to do with quality, I'd have to agree for once.

Hulk isn't an A-lister, there isn't a waifu everyone is lusting over, no new characters are being introduced, the "deaths" are meaningless since we know the gamma characters are coming back, the book isn't being pushed the same way books like Iceman were (really, I haven't seen any ads for Hulk), so far, he's only been in 3 other books, and there hasn't been a single issue that's been connected to an event. Sure you can be like and cry "variant covers!!!" but even then, 2 or 3 variants wouldn't get the sales THIS high. There is NOTHING to dive up sales to this point other than good word of mouth.

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>there isn't a waifu everyone is lusting over
Speak for yourself. As a monster girl fag I love the new Harpy Betty.

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I said "everyone", monster girl is a niche and while in acknowledge it, it simply isn't something that drives up sales. Otherwise MU would have had a longer run.

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>It's also being overshipped some.
It's quite literally not, the only titles that Marvel overshipped recently were Invisible Woman and Agents of Atlas, they stopped overshipping for a while already. Why would they need to overship if it's selling out and getting reprints of recent issues ahead of release? Makes no sense.

Though to be fair that word of mouth is only carrying it so far, there's also what every shop owner has said about speculators recognizing this will be a very iconic run and buying tons of copies to resell later when they're out of print.

Its weird how people on this thread dont specify why IH is bad or give examples

Honestly, whenever I see Bunn, Aaron and Dennis Hopeless in any cover, I avoid it like the plague.

>Batman has psychological depth

My sides

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>comics finally matured
Jesus don't make me roll my eyes this hard, it hurts.

You can enjoy simple things even if you're smart, you know.

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>an actual story with structure
Is a complete mess.

Isn’t Immortal Hulk allegedly really good?

It's pretty bad to be quite honest with you. It relies entirely on the premise that Hulk is evil now and he smiles and hurts people, which gets old after he's killed or maimed about a hundred different people who were all "evil" and "deserved it". Also the black womyn who lectures him about the evils of white privilege and toxic masculinity each issues is kinda cringe.

He's right tho, but keep bing buttblasted by facts while acting like a child aka average Hulk fanboy

Is basically Rick and Morty the comic, a smartass invencible protagonist who win through shitty plot devices and makes pseudo psychology speeches about everyone for no reason.

>It's also being overshipped some.
>source: my ass

And i think it only improved since it first got published, care to say why you think it drifeted to "pointless capeshit"?

> It relies entirely on the premise that Hulk is evil now
> he's killed or maimed about a hundred different people who were all "evil" and "deserved it"

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>Hickman makes Doom omnipotent two times in a row
>"DAMN THIS IS YHR BEST COMIC BOOK EVER"

>Ewing writes a Hulk who now smiles when he beats people
>"DAMN THIS IS THE SCARIEST COMIC BOOK EVER"

>Marvel publishes one issue of X-Men written by Hickman
>"DAMN THIS IS THE MOST AMAZING COMIC BOOK EVER"

We can't really trust the taste of Marvelfags. Any 6/10 story is praised as LE BEST THING EVER by them, as long as it has the Marvel logo on the cover.

It's good.
It pays homage to runs of the past and treats EVERYTHING both good and bad as cannon.

It has some nice body horror and treats Hulk like an actual monster that you should fear. Not only that, but it has started to explore his multiple personalities and it's looking like all of them are going to surface at some point.

The reason you think that? So far i have seen people who says why Batman is garbage and reasons why Hulks is pretty darn good.
But the people who says Hulk is bad never give out reason, it is almost like they haven't read it but are butthurt about the concept of IH selling, which wouldn't surprises me given how retarded the badman fanbase is.

>DC: THIS IS AWARD WINNING CONTENT!

It goes both ways user.

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If you like smartass characters and over the top edgyness then go for it.

"this" means they weren't evil or deserve it, he just said they were because they were white men who did something "bad".

>tommy is scared of Hulk showing off emotions

Don't worry, your Batgod will keep autistically brooding and never smile for the years to come.

Yes.

Can you elaborate on that last bit? I'd like to know some more about it. Are speculators still a thing?

Yes, it is.

Thanks for showing that you haven't read it.

>through shitty plot devices and makes pseudo psychology speeches about everyone for no reason.

Any exemples of when this happens? I'm sure you can find a few.

Is bad, the fight against the Avengers is a great example of why it's trash, besidess it being a blatant rip off of World War Hulk ending it portray the avengers as monsters, butchering Banner alive and giving him to a sadistic scientist without even bothering to look and take care of him.

Also it ignore the fact they all specially Tony learned in the past that treating the Hulk in a inhuman way is not just wrong but dangerous.

No they are not, people are just trying to get a new strawman.

>It goes both ways user.
Shoe me one DC fan arguing that Heroes in Crisis is the best thing ever written thr way that Marvelfags argue for the Hulk Who Laughs.

>tommy is scared of Hulk showing off emotions
You mean "emotion", in the singular.

And by "emotion", you mean "smile".

>blatant rip off of World War Hulk ending
ooof

>Capeshit fatigue
>Mindlessly rehashing "marvel fatigue" in movies and applying it to comics
hey look a Yea Forums dumbass

Hulk speech for the robber, hulk speech to She Hulk, are basically identical to the way Rick Sanchez behave around people.

No by emotions every characters whose face isn't a sad brick, i.e: Batman.

>Shoe me one DC fan arguing that Heroes in Crisis is the best thing ever

DC bangladesh strikes again, you won't find anyone defending HiC because it is fucking trash.

Post those pages, let's see how much of a "Rick Sanchez" Hulk is.

>God isn't real Rick
>If He were Hulk would smash
>*grins*
>*cut to Stan Lee*
>Nuff said!

So you were just shitposting, thanks for proving you are a retard.

First off, he's another guy and second he's clearly being sarcastic dipshit.

Sarcastic user here, I'm sorry if I was too subtle.

My bad, sorry for calling you a retard user.

>you won't find anyone defending HiC because it is fucking trash
Exactly. This is what makes Marvelfags and DC fans so different. Marvelfags will praise ANYTHING with the Marvel logo on the cover.

Sure Tommy, sure.

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Is good but kinda overhyped. Must be because most comics nowadays are trash.

sup Ladder

>no u

my sides. Maybe stop being an idiotic company warrior and people will stop mistaking you for the retard of this board.

>The retard of this board
Barney, Ladderbro and Tommy are the same person?

Erfworld
Sluggy Freelance
Schlock Mercenary

Lackdaisy cats

Really, what's wrong user.
Why do you have this hate boner? Did Stan Lee bang your sister on his deathbed?

You can't even form a functional argument because you keep talking about the companies and the fans as if they were interchangeable things to complain about.

Yes, you've proven your point.

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Harley > Hulk

Yes speculators are still a huge part of the market, it's why shops willingly spend so much money getting variants. Ask literally any shop owner and they'll tell you how anything that appeals to speculators is so much more profitable than everything else it's sad.
It's the same logic as why gaming companies fill everything with lootboxes and surprise mechanics, for every thousand people who spend next to no money on that crap there's one addict who spends literally thousands of dollars a year on it.

Notice how books like Black Cat #1 and Symbiote Spider-Man #1 and the first issues of every Harley Quinn miniseries top the charts yet drop like a rock with each issue afterwards, that's because speculators buy dozens of copies so they can resell them later at a 300% markup, it's easy money.

Same with events and anything that can be seen as "important".

However it's actually extremely rare that a book will get speculator attention because it's good, particularly because everything these days is a bad retread that everyone forgets about when it's over. Hulk is probably the first book since Hawkguy that people are praising as a new, definitive run that people will remember years from now.

This retard has absolutely no clue what he's talking about, and most likely started reading comics like five years ago and has never stepped foot in a store because he just pirates everything.

Mindless action always sells. Look at the top sellers of the past. Johns' GL, Snyder's Batman, 90s X-men, Ultimates.

go be gay somewhere else

Even combined they both get outsold, curbstomp style, by Hero Academia's manga

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>Iconic character (usually able to sustain correct sales, but not as much as Spidey or Batman)
>It's the main series, and not a satellite one
>Good wrting/art
>Good critics
But the most important of those points is still the character.
Take Hulk and give it to, I dunno, Future Fundation creative team, it would still last a couple of years before relaunch and sell better than Captain Marvel.
Take Ewing/Jones and put them on Wolfsbane: no matter the quality and the word of mouth, it will be cancelled after 6 issues.

It's going to slow down with the next four issues covering Roxxon, aka padding. It's a good run but I'm hoping Marvel doesn't try to kill their golden goose by making it longer than necessary.

Cyberfrog and Jawbreakers outsold both.

Not in the US tbf

As long as diamond exists comics can never sell as well as jumps

lmao go read the book

Was good but their pushing their environmental take Devil Hulk has taken. The next four issues are going to be about Roxxon, which is a weird choice considering how the story seemed to be reaching it's climax with Fortean

Go for a jog

Retard.

This is some amateur trolling.

What do you mean speculators? Of what?

According to Hulkfags, it's the best comic since Moore's Swamp Thing because it's not as bad as King's Batman.

Gosh, you are a fucking idiot.

>ctrl+f "Swamp Thing"
>Only one result (Yours)

Talking about creating strawmen.

>it is almost like they haven't read it but are butthurt about the concept of IH selling, which wouldn't surprises me given how retarded the badman fanbase is.
We know this is it, they never explain the reasons and it's always some awkward shitposting or strawmanning. It's weird because usually you can tell exactly why something is bad if it's criticized like that, but not this. I mean, even stuff that's heavily praised like Cates' Venom has the caveat of being written by, you know, Cates. But this?

post the pasta

This will be my final post on Yea Forums.

How can anyone think that this is scary for real ? How can anyone take seriously a horror book with the Hulk as a supposed to be frightening monster ? How can anyone see the Hulk as frightening for real in this book ?
"Ouh, the Hulk is smiling, so unsetlling, this is so scary guys..." why are you lying to yourself like that ?
You guys are just forcing onto yourself the new fade there will be in this hivemind of a board, with the blandest, tamest, most classicly safe comic book there can be, while your selective outrage is shitting on King's Batman for things that would be praised if they were written by someone else, but NOOOOOOOOOOOO you have to shit on it even if it's good because the hivemind dictates you to do so !!!

No wonder you can't get laid, but guess what ? I got a girlfriend now. For the first time of my life after 24 years I finally got a girlfriend, and all that nerd fuss has become so irritating since.
I'm just leaving for good now, I had plenty of fun with that board but I'm done. I wish you to get girlfriends to, maybe it will open your eyes about the hivemind that is destructing your self, but sadly, the hivemind is probably keeping you away from being able to seduce anyone, so you're most likely trapped in a vicious circle, and sadly, there is no Savage Dragon to save you from it. I just hope that this message will maybe help you to think by yourself a bit more and to get a girlfriend to.

Enjoy your book.

>Batman has psychological depth.

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What padding? It's an entirely new arc. You guys are silly about this, constantly trying to predict the burst of the bubble. Even if it starts selling less, fact remains that it still gained readers every month while every other series bleed sales after the #1.

Cyberfrog still hasn't come out dumbass

This. I don't buy floppies anymore, but if I did, this would be the first one. My hardcover is already pre-ordered.

>Hulk isn't an A-lister
The fuck? What exactly is your definition of A Lister then?

>2 major solo motion pictures
>co-stars in 5 other MCU movies
>5 Season television show
>Own (short lived) cartoon series
>co-stars in multiple cartoon series
>One of the 5 most recognizable super heroes in the world
>His name has become a dictionary definition
Yeah.....not an A-Lister.

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>Hulk isn't an A-lister
Now this is just Yea Forums tier shitposting right here

Oh my God

Incredible

Bat-cancer at it's finest

I haven't read a Batman story like that in ages.
What I read is shit where there just is no end to the prep and any "victory" against Batman is actually just a trick where he's already double-keikaku'd his victory. Did Batman seem to lose? He planned for that.

WHEN IS SHE HULK GETTING A SOLO?

You do know what in #1 sales alone, any Marvel or DC series outsells any ogn put out by CG, right? Assuming House of X #1 sold 250K copies (and I actually think it's over that, we're talking about $1,247,500. And it's gonna be 6 issues total of that one series, not even counting Powers of X here.
So nah, beat it.

>Is King's Batman that fucking awful?
It's still in the top 10 most sold comics each month.

Sales != Quality

So is Spider.Man, the only difference is that before it made the triple of all the other titles and not it is just thre in the middle.
Fall from grace is a slow burn.

Batman comics are the ultimate sunk-cost fallacy.
Also, people really believe #1 comics with a run of half a million are worth poly-bagging for "future value".

Jawbreakers has 10600 backers.
That seems like a much smaller number than sales of an issue of Batman or Hulk. Perhaps you could red pill me on how 10600 over 4 months is bigger than 88,100 in one?

Dude you don't get it, it's that Jawbreakers fans are more dedicated since they're willing to pay way more than usual and repeated times over several campaigns for less pages of comics. so a single Jawbreakers and Cyberfrog backer is worth ten (10) more than a single Immortal Hulk fan who buys floppies.

HE'S THE BAD MAN

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>there isn't a waifu everyone is lusting over,
well there is but thats another shit sandwich right now

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Batman, Superman , Spider-man and mayyybe Wolverine
everything below is B-lister

It might outsell Batman but I still wouldn’t consider reading it due to my hate for Hulk.

Yeah but Gantz sold really well and was an internet phenomenon. People like edge - even Yea Forums which professes to hate edge is hooked in IH - because they are all drones who buy marvel comics past the age of 15. Edge makes a comic feel like it is more adult and smarter without the comic actually needing to do anything to prove it. The writing quality and art of Immortal Hulk are not very good but because it's edgy and different people consume it.

>look at how smart I am, ma

Pathetic.

The reply that was deserved.

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>hmm, those arkham games are pretty popular, what can we take from them into the comic books?
>LET'S BRING IN LITERALLY THE WORST PART

How was your Hot Pocket?
Feel better, now?

I'm not doubting that the comicsgate crowd are dedicated.

I'm just trying to figure out how $400,000 a couple times a year, maybe? Translates to more than $340,000 a month every month. Or exactly how much dedication multiplies the value of a buyer. So a dedicated buyer is worth more than 8 times a regular buyer? How did that get calculated? Does this dedication pay John Malin's rent? Does it put Jawbreakers in more hands? What is going on that makes small numbers bigger and better than much, much larger numbers, and can that be quantified in a way that actually prosecutes an argument?

>Gantz
>Sold well
Not in the us, son.

This whole opinion just fucking reeks of weebetry or company wars faggotry or both.

Hulk is something new, or at least something we haven't seen in quite a while, in comics. I know you want to protect precious precious Batman's smile, but Hulk is good. It's not just edge- that's crossed or whatever assrape festival Ennis is writing lately. That's not outselling Batman.

>relies on shocking violence and gore.
What's wrong with that?

Nothing.
But that's also not all that is going on with IH.

I'm not doubting that the comicsgate crowd are dedicated
I was being completely sarcastic there, by the way. Their "dedication" certainly has nothing to do with the actual comics, in any case, so no matter how much they're willing to pay for a single product, it's still 10K backers at most, which isn't much better than your average low selling monthly Marvel book.
> Does this dedication pay John Malin's rent?
If we talk about Cyberfrog, it definitely does pay for EVS' expensive tastes, too bad none of the backers have received the product yet... Not like it matters to them either, so win-win for both!

You made this with the intent of pasta.

you succeeded

Gotta love how these small dick Hulk writers spend decades trying to emasculate Thor and God like beings with constant guest appearances just to shit on them, Hulk's book must have a record of guests!
Now ever since Pak's planet Hulk they want to push this angle that Hulk is some kind of...God!
Lmao this shit is so fucking bad, so creatively bankrupt!

"B-But he beats everyone on his book, he dies and gets ragdolled by nobodies, but he comes back and beats all the guests in the book, so it's good!!!"

We live in a world where the most ambitious deconstruction of the psyche of a superhero in the style of Miller or Moore, combined with the epic jaunt of Morrison or Claremont is outsold by a crappy gimmick title where every issue you just have the stupid green man smile ominously and zoomers going "oh that's so fucking scary he's about to do something TERRIBLE I'm literally SHAKING rn lol" and it's just not okay
When did we lower our standards like this? When did we abandon all that was good and turn to lowest common denominator schlock? Tom King's Batman run was going to change everything. But you... you chose Hulk. You chose angry green man with his wicked nihilist smile.
It didn't have to be this way! Tom King served his country in the CIA, doing literal Mission Impossible shit in Agrabah, and what was Al Ewing doing then? Playing with his dick and fantasizing about red bird women.
I'm sorry. I'm just... just so tired.

>You were being sarcastic
It's hard to tell these days. Poe's law and all that.

Case in point.

>Small dick hulk writers
>Emasculate Thor
Man, you don't know what compensation actually looks like. Thor writers are the dicklettiest of them all, with apologies to Simonson.

Isn't that what OP is exactly saying?

I read it as if the poster was trying to say it wasn't awful because it was selling, thus the implication.
Something that hasn't been brought up is that a lot of mainstay series are bought mostly out of habit, so even though they can be terrible, they never dip that much and always remain around the top 10-20. They have to be legit AWFUL to dip beyond that, and I despite some terrible runs I can't recall any that dropped from the list altogether.
Lots of comic fans are creatures of habit so even if they complain, they'll keep reading and buying. It's not so much the whole "angry readers buy more" thing but rather not wanting to miss out.

Should've also mentioned that this only works with A-B listers. X-Men main titles, Justice League, Avengers, Spider-Man, Batman and the like. This obviously doesn't work with anything below that, where the economy of the pull-list prevails.
That's also why Immortal Hulk is an "anomaly", because it sneaked into the top 10 with ever growing sales, retaining readers and retaining its position against those who are basically steady sellers no matter what.

The day IH no longer outsells Batman will be the day men like you will make the threads impossible to read.

We've already got a Hulk related pasta, thanks.

Like Captain Marvel!

Batman is garbage and Hulk is actually pretty good but the two things aren't correlate.
Let's pretend IH wasn't a thing, you think Batman would have kept its sales up? No what is happening to Batman now is pretty much what happened to Spider-Man with OMD, the book would have ended being outselled by another title anyways (even now, some month IH isn't even the only ongoing that outsell it).
Same thing goes the other way around.

cosmic horror is still horror you dumb fuck.

You can't do horror in comic book form, there's no jump scares.

Getting your ass kicked the first time and coming back to win later isn't depth, it's every story ever.

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you genuinely don't know what cosmic horror is. Hell not all horror shit is jumpscare you complete and utter tasteless fuck.

If it doesn't pop out and go AAHHHHHHHH how is it scary? Retard.

>the age when comics finally matured and entered the minds of their characters
batcatbatcatbatcatbatcatbatcatbatcat

I prefer Spider Cat.

>batman can fail
where have you been for the last 20 goddamm years, cocksucker?