What’s the consensus on the DC animated film universe?

No. Maybe Death of Superman, but even that end up ruining what could have been great if it didn't have to waste running time to the unnecessary tie-ins meant to remind the viewers that the movie is a part of their shitty ass shared animated universe that started adapting the shitty New 52 story-lines, and that frankly it's almost insulting to the original comic story-line when you think about it.

the batman:superman ones are good for just how over the top they are
& because they aren't more nu-bruce timm shit

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Pale imitation of the DCAU.

I really don't like that Wonder Woman costume.

Oportune thread, can you recommend me some good ones? I need some to watch with a friend who digs DC.

I really dug Doom, Under the Red Hood, Flashpoint, the Suicide Squad one in Arkham and Superman Vs The Elite. JL: War was very meh. I was thinking of watching one of the Titans ones or the one with the Legion of Superheroes; one of the Timm ones maybe. Are those good?

Wonder Woman and the two Green Lantern movies are good.

I really like that Wonder Woman design

I'm indifferent on that Wonder Woman design.

Their saving grace is that they follow the comics theyre based off of very closely, so they tend to have decent stories, but the YJ art style is so ugly they ought to just revert back to bruce timm

>Their saving grace is that they follow the comics theyre based off of very closely, so they tend to have decent stories
They chose to adapt awful comics and they always make changes that make the stories even worse. Are you high? Take Batman: Hush. It's even worse than the comic.

it's what their live action universe should be

didnt watch that one personally. I didn't think the comic itself was that great

Death of Superman > Reign of Supermen > JL vs TT > JL War > JL Thrones of Atlantis

Justice League Dark is good
The Death of Superman/Reign of the Supermen is surprisingly decent
and Batman Hush is alright, but not great.

Everything else ranges from dumpster fire to forgettably band.

Lots of bad but some good.

They all suck, so i don't see the reason to make comparisons.

The problem is that you can say that about all of them. The comics they chose to adapt aren't great and the adaptions they make out of it are even worse. There's very little redeeming factor.

Bad, cheap, and forgettable?

Is a shitty animated version of new 52, which should tells you a lot.
Reign of Supermen and the Suicide Squad movie were good tho

I'm gonna disagree with you. They're definitely not the best examples of DC but they do the most popular comics, and even the worst comics tend to be better than movies. It's like the bridge between real DC and normie audience. It's a best of both worlds scenario kinda

>and they always make changes that make the stories even worse

Death of Superman disagrees. I'll agree about Reign messing up a lot of it thanks to some poor choices made with the pacing, but adding in the Lois/Clark subplot and having the new League fight doomsday was way better than Guardian or Smashtania not her real name, but she's so forgettable I could make up anything and you wouldn't remember if it was wrong Oh and getting rid of the stupid wrestling subplot, what the fuck was that? It was as pointless as the supergirl subplot.

Death was a lot more focused.

I really don’t like the weird, angular art style

I really liked Flashpoint.

Yeah the YJ art style really is the worst part about them. They so very carefully avoid visual distinction btw male/female that all the characters look the same. It's honestly pretty disgusting

shit

Under The Red Hood is fantastic. John DiMaggio as Joker sounds fucking retarded on paper but is incredibly fun and unique to watch.

>having the new League fight doomsday
That was some shit
>Diana's hairclip breaks and her hair flows out
>still gets buttraped by Doomsday
I got hard during that scene

It's got the most active Darkseid in recent memory who is responsible for both Doomsday and Cyborg Superman

He really is an amazing older, scruffy Joker. Guy's just a good actor.

It's a poor adaption of Death of the Superman, user. The Clark/Lois romance comes out of nowhere, is handled it in a very rushed manner because it has very little screen-time to develop and breathe, and you even have some SM/WW dedicated scenes to remind you that this is something that happened in their previous animated movies. The New 52 Justice League doesn't fit the story and actually drag it down. The Justice League are taken out in a very contrived manner and then come back seconds after Superman died just to make you feel angry about Superman's death because you know that if they were present Superman wouldn't have died, because this is the OG New 52 JL that are very powerful and competent instead of the much, much less powerful JLI from the 90's that appeared in the original comic. Then you've the ill-fitting Darkseid teases as an attempt to streamline the story with the rest of their past animated movies which i felt were stupid as fuck because in the end by Reign of the Supermen Darkseid comes off as a dumb jobber with a needlessly convoluted gambit that went nowhere as always.

It's bad, user. Bad.

The most active AND the most ineffectual because he always gets beaten like a little bitch and have his plans backfire in his face. Easily the worst version of Darkseid ever put to screen.

The new 52 stuff like in your pic is shit.

The dark knight returns movies were kino though.

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>Diana's hairclip breaks and her hair flows out
>still gets buttraped by Doomsday
I got hard during that scene

Exquisite taste. Truly patrician.

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>Who's got a camera? Ooh, ooh, get one of me and the kid first! Then you and me, then the three of us, and then one with the crowbar!
the most based version of Joker ever.

Too bad this Diana sucks. I wish i could like her.

The green arrow and spectre shorts were pretty damn good. I forget which movies they were paired with though.

we get it man, you don't like things. What else don't you like you want to share with us?

There really aren't enough dianas that tow the line between incel fantasy and militant feminist appropriately.

>The Clark/Lois romance comes out of nowhere
It's established where they are at the start of the movie, how can it come out of nowhere if its one of the first few plotpoints introduced?

>s handled it in a very rushed manner because it has very little screen-time to develop and breathe,
They spent a lot of time with Clark talking about his reservations asking her to marry him and even added in the Flash subplot to let it develop and breath.

>nd you even have some SM/WW dedicated scenes to remind you that this is something that happened in their previous animated movies.
And? It gave Clark more time to talk about why Lois is important to him and for Lois and Diana to talk later about vise-versa.

>The New 52 Justice League doesn't fit the story and actually drag it down.
They fit in establishing Doomsdays powerlevel.

>The Justice League are taken out in a very contrived manner
I agree with Jon and Barry but everyone else just got punched a lot, not a lot of contrivance in a pretty straightforwards action. And even then it makes more sense than the original where Supergirl also could have saved Clark if she hadn't completely OOC'd with Lex Luthor.

>Then you've the ill-fitting Darkseid teases
That was in Reign and I agree this is stupid and was very poorly done, why the fuck did he grab some random guy out of space to make him into Superman? The fuck was that shit?

> Darkseid comes off as a dumb jobber
He's not even a jobber, he's a completely pointless addition that just served to pad out the runtime instead of just making it all about Hank pretending to be superman, a subplot that made Henry completely pointless in the whole movie. Not that he wasn't pointless in the original book, but still.

Do you like a Diana that says that she likes violent men in a scene that was tackled on Superman animated movie by the producers and writers butthurt about people not liking their version of the SMWW romance? One that behaves like a isekai'd barbarian who gets off on violence?

Next thing you're going to say to me that their version of Hal Jordan is great as well. Dude behaves more like Booster Gold, ironically enough, than anything close to the veteran ring-slinger.

I like the Jonah Hex one a lot too, just rewatched yesterday.

It came out of nowhere because the movie already start with Superman thinking about asking Lois to marriage, and even with all the little subplots they added with the other characters chiming in you never get the to see why Superman and Lois are into each other, why their relationship matter to either of them, and so there's no emotional connection made between the viewer and this couple drama. I couldn't give a crap to any of that. It felt rushed.
The Justice League just job or conveniently disappear. That's why the entire Superman vs. Doomsday fight or the Superman vs. Cyborg Superman fight feel contrived and pointless. At least to me. Citing Pocket-Universe Supergirl doesn't help because the movie could have improved upon the original tale, not make the same mistakes but in a different manner.

Its lineup is new 52 so its shit. And i just got flashbacks from that carnival montage in teen titans movie.

>It came out of nowhere because the movie already start with Superman thinking about asking Lois to marriage,
Yeah? That's the establishment of the conflict.

>and even with all the little subplots they added with the other characters chiming in you never get the to see why Superman and Lois are into each other,
We do so, either on their dates, when they visit his parents or the constant examining of why he's so worried about everything. He downright explains this shit.

>why their relationship matter to either of them
I don't know what else he could have done to show it besides the constant dialog and small scenes when they're on dates.

>and this couple drama.
Its not even couple drama, Clarks' issue is he doesn't know if Lois would understand or if he's endangering her by revealing who he really is. He even points out it was easy with WW because she's bulletproof, but Lois is soft and squishy and they highlight this in the finale when they changed the story to put Lois in the middle of the action.

>The Justice League just job or conveniently disappear
All of them except batman are onscreen defeated, and Batman got his ass left behind because he can't keep up with Wonder Woman.

>not make the same mistakes but in a different manner.

The originals' mistakes was conveniently having everyone powerful be away from the planet and a bunch of nobodies with lower powerlevels put up a fight against Doomsday and hold their own, meaning when Superman fought him we had no scale as to just how big a fight this was going to be. You think Bloodwynd or Ice endeared the reader into the stakes? It was pointless filler that somehow became nonsensical because they suddenly were on Superman's level. Using the actual league and having them straight up overpowered, not outsmarted, at least showed why Doomsday would be able to hurt Superman.

Oh right, forgot that one, it was good too.

>that one Batman: TAS episode that's just a fucking failed pilot for a Jonah Hex cartoon

You explaining me the scenes doesn't help to alleviate my complaint user. Everything happens too fast. The scenes aren't given room to breath. There's nothing outstanding about them. They're like bullet-points. Even the issues Superman wrestle with - Lois won't understand i gaslighting her, Lois is squishy unlike Wonder Woman, how come everyone date normies without any worry, and so on - feel like something a half-brained person could think about. If anything they make Lois feel like a hindrance than a strength. That why it felt badly done for me. Something that the producers and writers felt needed, because of the source material and their desire to please the viewers turned off by the SMWW romance, but that they couldn't be bothered with much.

Them being defeated or magically taken out doesn't help with anything. These characters should have been able to defeat Doomsday. Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Flash, and so on. They're really powerful. The fact that they weren't seems off. Like Doomsday was shown defeating them, when he shouldn't, just so he could kill/be killed by Superman later. That's why these characters weren't in the original story. Because they're as OP as Superman.

And i disagree with you. The original story worked because the characters shown being taken out by Doomsday were weak. The only really strong one present was Superman and he wasn't enough to handle the fight without dying. If you had all the stronger JL members had been present Superman would have never died. So the fact that these characters were present in the movie and job make the whole Superman vs Doomsday fight feel contrived and some sort of pointless character wank. The same JL characters showing up seconds after Superman's death for another round doesn't help. You just feel like screaming at the screen asking where were they, why couldn't they been faster, and so on.

Its trash and it butchers morrisons work they aren't live action and it doesn't cost a billion yet they're constantly afraid to take any risks or make any choices visually the movies look worse and more polished creating a horrible cocktail of content that simultaneously looks wasteful and uninteresting. We have creators like robert valley creating work with a tenth of their budget that looks 500 times better
The action animation genre suffers because of their existence

the only worthwhile one is Batman And Harley Quinn for the farting scene which I masturbate to daily

>it butchers morrisons work
What Morrison story have they adapted, even?

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How can you butcher something that was never good to begin with?

I honestly love the idea of Joker having a generic thug leader voice. It makes him feel like he's in on... the joke. Like he doesn't even take his own shtick seriously, much less anything else in life

I rather enjoyed the ones with Constantine, especially City of Demons.

The latest three? Supes movies I found entertaining as well but I am a Superfag.

Oh Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay was what the theatrical shitshow SHOULD have been, and Vixen was pretty decent.

Worth watching once. That's it.

>dumb jobber with a needlessly convoluted gambit that went nowhere as always.
Name one in-continuity supervillain that isn't like that. The job of a comic writer is to distract you from this fact.