Well?

He wouldn’t use his left side because those are his fire powers he got from his dad who eugenically raped his ice power mom to have a kid with both powers

Ain't any dumber than Avatar's destiny bullshit and Zuko not killing Ozai when he has the chance to

Not really. Zuko being able to react to lightning doesn't mean he's faster than lightning

That's still way faster than Academia's typical speed. Almost nobody goes faster than the speed of sound and Todoroki isn't one of those people. Still it's a pretty unfair way to gauge Zuko's speed that I'm confident Death Battle would exploit to give the win to Zuko.

Avatar lightning isn't as fast as regular lightning anyways. This would not give Zuko any advantage against "I don't use my left side" kid.

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Did Aang lose?

Could Deku beat Miles?

youtu.be/ZbzbLBw7QE0

No

Visuals mean nothing btw. Unless explicably stated anywhere, Avatar lightning is just as fast as regular lightning. No difference is ever made between the two.

Death Battle said it’s as fast as natural lightning which is why Aang was able to keep away from Ed

As I said Death Battle wouldn't look at it that way. They already considered it as being the actual speed of lightning in the Aang Death Battle so there is no reason why they wouldn't do the same.

who cares? Zuko, even with lightning scaling can't beat an opponent much stronger than him, Todoroki

Now? No. Later? Yes. Adult Deku punches can change the weather. The winds alone would kill miles.

Miles?

Can Zuko ever use the blue spirit assassin shit?

>Adult Deku
Since when have we seen him as an Adult?

>No difference is ever made between the two.
Aside from literally being slower than regular lightning? Yes visuals matter. Zuko is LITERALLY running to intercept the lightning, if it's as fast as regular lightning than so is Zuko at physically movement which is ridiculous.

Please stop making these stupid threads.

Who would be a good match up for Toph in My Hero Academia?

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her rip-off character

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Anyone with ranged attacks

Melon Lord is too intimidating for MHA characters

user you do realize Zuko is moving in slow-mo in that webm right?

Araraka would be interesting but Toph would win

Todoroki would destroy her though

Absolutedly NOWHERE is Avatar lightning said to be different from regular lightning. And once again, visual don't matter, if they did, goku would be street level

Why did Toph beat Gaara

Literally what the FUCK were they thinking ?

Death battle is fucking retarded though. Unless Avatar characters have actual superspeed that's total bullshit

Gaara is weaker

Someone took the time to make this

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So Ghost Rider is winning right?

I know I thought Ed could blitz Aang before avatar state but I was wrong

No

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what point are you even trying to make by saying that
he's still running to get in front of the blast, this is what literally happens in that scene. this is corroborative with how we see bender generated lightning in other scenes, there's no way it's instantaneous like actual lightning.

>Absolutedly NOWHERE is Avatar lightning said to be different from regular lightning.
and no where was it said it is
the fact it's man-made is a huge distinction between natural lightning
>visuals doesn't matter
>what literally happens in scenes doesn't matter because I say so
user was 100% correct only reason people say otherwise is because they want Avatar characters to be stronger for Death Battles, even though what makes Avatar so great partially is how they aren't ridiculous anime bullshit characters that all have Sharingan-esque visual powers that can see faster than mach 300 despite somehow still regularly getting tagged by average bending.

>Unless Avatar characters have actual superspeed
Avatar characters are as fast as the plot requires them to be.

>No
kek

Fire bending is also man made. Is it different from regular fire?

Also, lightning will be assumed to be lightning, anything else derives from the expected, aka: the burden of proof lies on you

fan contributed toph sprite and not wanting to kill a little girl or something.

Toph is literally the strongest earth bender in her show's history

>aka: the burden of proof lies on you
no it isn't, it still is lightning but just doesn't travel as fast obviously
but go on thinking Zuko is just massively faster than raw lightning why not nothing is more important than power levels

Gaara is has way too many fucking tools, durability and speed to fuck around with Toph though

>no it isn't, it still is lightning but just doesn't travel as fast obviously

MENTAL GYMNASTICS, it is fucking lightning you thickheaded oaf, why wouldn't it be as fast as lightning? Why is lightning the only element where it differs from the natural source?

People are arguing avatar characters are faster than lightning

By scaling, Toph should also be lightning speed. Gaara is still faster by scaling though so he wins. He is also immune from her sttacks

iirc didn't they use early, pre-friendship Gaara

They can react to lightning and Zuko can run to intercept it

Todoroki’s attacks are just too much
Rooting for Johnny yeah

>why wouldn't it be as fast as lightning?
why would it be
you're the one doing mental gymnastics "no you see visuals don't matter!" christ
it's clear what the intention was, we see many times in the series that it can't be that fast

Yeah his AoE and speed of attacks are just too fast.

>why would it be
because nothing else is like that in the universe, all elements are like their natural sources, they are just amplified by bending (so if anything, bending lightning should be stronger) and again, Goku is actually Street tier in super, according to you. Visuals don't matter but let's just assume they do: Zuko can react to lightning, nothing indicates it being "slow" lightning (which makes no sense for reasons i explained above) zuko is proven by your webm to be a lightning timer

>Goku is actually Street tier in super, according to you
uh no because we literally have characters say stuff like he could destroy the universe if he kept fighting Beerus, and we see people blow up planets early in Z. you can keep thinking whatever you want but I think it's pretty obvious what is right. it's really stupid to go from regular bending to mach 300 lightning bending and the ridiculousness of Iroh teaching him to catch it like it's not a huge colossal step up, unless you scale all the bending we've seen to ridiculous levels. never in-show was it treated like it's massively fast.
>all elements are like their natural sources
is really stupid logic.

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>zuko is proven by your webm to be a lightning timer
>i honestly think zuko can run faster than lightning

Bump

Ok so we've talked about Aang, Zuko, and Toph already. What about Katara? Who would make for a good Death Battle with her?

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>blocks your path

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Lapis from SU? They’re both annoying.

You make little sense
There is no contradiction there

Avatar's firebending lightning is clearly not as fast as a normal (that comes from the sky) lightning, are you guys retarded
Lightning is just the name you do to it because it's looks like and it's cool, it's just another fire based (on the show) energy blast.

God that's such a stomp in Lapis' favor though.

>it's just another fire based (on the show) energy blast.
>except it has all the properties of typical lightning
It's lightning, no different that naturally-generated lightning. Avatar characters fluctuate wildly in speed depending on what the story needs (Appa suddenly flying at mach speeds to get from the Fire Nation to the middle of the Earth Kingdom in one day,) this is also fact.