Up from the depths,
Thirty stories high!
Breathing fire,
His head in the sky!
Up from the depths
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GODZILLA
GODZILLA
GODZILLA!!
AND GODZUUUUUUKIIIIII
GODZILLAAAAAAAAA
>Dorsal fins up to his head
Just looks like a goofy dinosaur.
Why you gotta come here and start shit?
God, is anything as 80s as a bitchin theme song that suddenly goes goofy as fuck to introduce the godawful comic relief character?
>IT'S ME NONO, SMALL ROBOT YOU KNOW, FRIEND OF ULYSSES
You get Nono out of this.
A GOD STANDS ABOVE
THE CITY HE WILL DESTROY
looks like Maui from moana
What can I say except ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
Did this come before Go-Bots? The guy who did his roars also did Zod's roars.
Yeah, this is 1978-1979
Go-Bots was 1984-85
This looks liked cropped porn.
lots of frames from this show have that sort of effect
So they recycled Godzilla's roars for Zod.
>tfw HB Godzilla was part of an "Evolution of" video
pretty much
I loved seeing him there that was cool. there's been a lot of appreciation for him as of late
>there's been a lot of appreciation for him as of late
My radar must be broken because aside from I haven't seen this 30 story tall lad since reruns on Cartoon Network back in the day. Where else is he?
I was moreso referring to fans I've talked to elsewhere.
so many good reaction images
This series is a legit goldmine of them
Oh.
There wasn't any continuity in this show, was there? "The Island of Doom" had COBRA confused by Godzilla when he's been in so many encounters that his existence should be common knowledge in their world. Plus all the other giant monsters, yet the commanders couldn't fathom the situation when he stomped their island base.
So... Are we getting more Godzilla media now?
Don't think there was any continuity, no
jeez you already have a thread don't get greedy
well we just got KOTM which was good, then there's Godzilla vs Kong next year, and Toho seems to indicate that both they and Legendary will continue making films. So yea
Will the rights for the Titans and MUTOs go to Toho or Legendary if the deal doesn’t go through?
AFAIK Legendary would keep the rights to the OC Titans and the MUTOs since they created them.
Yea Forumswise I'd imagine Godzilla vs Kong will get a comic tie in at the very least.
look at that swag
With a purposeful grimace and a terrible sound
He pulls the spitting high-tension wires down
Helpless people on subway trains
Scream, bug-eyed, as he looks in on them
He picks up a bus and he throws it back down
As he wades through the buildings toward the center of town
"What the hell are they doing in there? That's just WRONG."
Zooky got no time for bitches and brats.
If I see that fucking Zooky one more time...
beautiful
>For a time, I considered sparing your giant invisible pizza. But now, you shall witness... its CONSUMPTION!
I love this frame, he looks like a Gila monster with an underbite.
"Your dick is THIS small, faggot."
>Kaiju Cuck porn
>Now listen here, you little shit
>when Mothra starts using mandible
The gritty Reptar reboot looks interesting.
>what the fuck is this shit
Trips
the money shot
I WANT APPLE PIE AND YOU GIVE ME TWINKIES WITH HOLLANDAISE SAUCE!!
>Bug-eyed
I always thought the lyrics were "Helpess people on subway trains scream FOR GOD as he looks in on them"
I mean, I know better now, it's just kind of weird how badly I misheard that.
so, purely from a gag standpoint, I was imagining in my head how it might be possible to give Godzilla the ability to talk without it coming off as too campy, and thinking of the movie, I thought "what if you adjusted the ORCA so that instead of producing it's own sound, it worked as a translator"
But this led to me just imagining Godzilla sounding like he's talking with a microsoft Text-to-speech device.
Just watch "Godzilla vs Gigan" if you want to hear what Godzilla would sound like in English.
Very cool vid. I even forgot that Zilla Sr. had a breath weapon.
I don't know what I was expecting... but it was not this.
>recycled
They had the same actors working on both shows so it's more likely that Frank just did the exact same roars.
Aahahahahahahahahahaha
>Godzilla's spines flashing really only started in the late 80s
I'm glad someone decided to do that. It's a good effect.
Was it Frank Welker? I dimly recall not seeing GPH on his resume.
I think they've done that for the entire time, but in some films it wasn't very obvious. I know they flashed and glowed in "Ghidorah the Three-Headed Monster", you can see it when he blows up the cruise ship and uses it on Rodan the first time.
Ted Cassidy did Godzilla's roars
why does he look like he's asking someone to settle down
Ah, then yeah, Godzilla's roars became stock after the Power Hour since Hanna Barbera uses every part of the buffalo. My mistake.
Because he does that to Godzooky every 5 seconds
>Will the rights for the Titans and MUTOs go to Toho or Legendary if the deal doesn’t go through?
hard to say, it kinda goes all over the place when we look at Kaiju created for other licensed Godzilla properties, like the OC monsters for Godzilla Unleashed are Toho's property but the ones created for the 70's Marvel comic are still owned by Marvel(which is why every couple of years Red Ronin makes an appearance in a comic when someone at Marvel remembers that he exists)
so it probably depends on how their contract was done
Who would win in a fight: Manila or Godzuki?
Was an explanation ever given for why they didn't use his classic roar in this cartoon?
I used to watch this on the Bozo Show before school.
Godzooky for Monsterverse
>Was an explanation ever given for why they didn't use his classic roar in this cartoon?
Too expensive.
Look at all the images posted so far. And that's just a few bits of the quality of this show's budget.
>Was an explanation ever given for why they didn't use his classic roar in this cartoon?
Toho licenses Godzilla's roar separately from the Godzilla character, and as pointed out, it is very expensive. The 1998 American Godzilla movie didn't even bother to license the roar and paid Frank Welker to do noises, then paid a sound technician to edit it into a "close enough" version of the roar.
So to put in perspective, it is cheaper to hire an actor and a sound technician to record new versions of the roar than it is to pay Toho for the license to use the roar. That is how much they charge for it.
I once heard a rumor that in the Japanese release of this show they actually replaced his roar with the classic one.
>I once heard a rumor that in the Japanese release of this show they actually replaced his roar with the classic one.
That was fake. The HB Godzilla cartoon was never released in Japan. Most of the false information that's still being passed around came from an edit on the Wikipedia article that stayed up for like a year before people realized it was unsourced vandalism and took it down. The Japanese Wikipedia article for the show confirms it was never released over there.
Now, the Godzilla animated series that was based on the 1998 American movie DID get dubbed and released in Japan, though it was on satellite network and so most people never saw it. It used a bunch of the same VAs as the Japanese dub of the movie, but weirdly assigned them to different characters.
I liked that godzookie would constantly change his size to whatever room the story had him in and that they could call godzilla and he would immediately arise out of whatever body of water they were near. Lake, stream, river, he's just down there.
I'd like to remind people that this godzilla is taller than shingodzilla
Wow. This actually looks like the original Goji
This franchise is goddamn infested with misconceptions, rumors and half-truths that most people almost never bother to fact check, I swear. Or at least the Western side is, though I wonder whether Japanese fans also have their misunderstandings regarding American Godzilla media.
Godzilla, himself, also changed sizes. Not just to fit in bodies of water, but with how he would be seen grabbing the Calico boat. Sometimes it was like he was holding a 500 mL bottle of water, and other times it was like holding a shot glass.
Yeah, he was always nearby and ready to throw down. I liked how in the '98 animated series he wouldn't show up right away or we'd cut away to him sleeping or just doing something else before responding. The HB Godzilla was like a perfect firefighter always ready to deploy.
The King Kong vs. Godzilla "two different endings/winners" thing still travels around; it will never go away.
And I don't think the Japanese care very much about US Godzilla media, the way Americans care about Japanese stuff. There are probably aspects they don't know much about, like the Marvel or Dark Horse comics, but beyond those there isn't too much for them to misinterpret.
>monster rampaging through a suburban Midwestern town
>"Quick, Godzooky, call Godzilla!"
>"ABLEAHBLEAHBLOOPBLEAHBLOOEAHBLEAH!!!"
>Godzilla erupts out of someone's swimming pool
>he would immediately arise out of whatever body of water they were near. Lake, stream, river, he's just down there.
Legendary keeps the OCs. One of those niche Japanese toy companies revealed a prototype Behemoth vinyl that they have to pitch to Legendary before getting the green light to proceed with.
Hollow Earth?
Huh interesting, and yeah I agree this franchise is filled with the brim of many myths and misconceptions.
These two look like a reaction image template.
Fuck you godzuuki. You Scooby doo sounding piece of crap.
Even Minilla is better than you, and he's an ugly pile of gray clay with a chubby belly.
I tried to watch the Netflix godzilla. I hate cgi cartoons like this. I found the first one was interesting enough that I'd keep watching till the end. The second one I just had on the background till I lost all interest and turned it off. I dont even care at this point to see part 3. I'd rather watch the hannah Barbara one or even the fox kids.
>These two look like a reaction image template.
A Zero Effort Attempt Was Made.
Weird as fuck to hear it in old ass anime just there as a filler noise.
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Better to ask for forgiveness than for permission. I remember The Last Unicorn used the Godzilla roar as a stock sound effect for a dragon during a montage.
Yeah, during the "Now That I'm A Woman" song.
It's a terribly written story with two dimensional characters that carries as many contradictions as it does cliche's, only unlike the HB cartoon is asks to be taken seriously. Not to mention it has probably 15 minutes of Godzilla screentime total across three movies, except Godzilla isn't made the focus like in Shin nor does anything beyond slowly walking and an atomic breath unlike Legendary. What critics claim to be the problems of 2014, Shin, and KotM, are the primary elements of the anime trilogy. It not only squandered the potential of a 3 part post apocalyptic story, but wasted Godzilla's first step into anime. A waste of time, go watch Godzilla: the Series instead.
>but wasted Godzilla's first step into anime
AHEM.
For me the third was the most interesting and the first the least because of the themes they tried to present, but that sadly didn't translate to actual entertainment value. The Godzilla anime trilogy is definitely one of those cases where the attempt to tell some message comes at the expense of almost everything else, like story or characters. And the message isn't even that good or deep.
It's a fucking shame that this was how loads of weebs who don't watch kaiju stuff got introduced to the series.
I hear the prequel novel is actually interesting because it's full of classic monsters and gives the audience all the entertaining things the 3 movies tried so hard to avoid. Then again, I dunno if the novel has an English translation or not.
At least that had all monsters all the time and cute characterizations and interactions.
gojirand is kino
>"I came here to laugh at you!"
we need another Godzilla cartoon series
Ahhh what the fuck he looks fucking weird
>Implying.
It has almost everyone, including Gabara. They all die, either from human-made superweapons or Godzilla.
>jewho at it agian
Is it only the roar that they charge so much for? Pipeworks was able to rent 23 monsters for Godzilla Unleashed at $25,000 a pop. They wanted Kong as well but Universal demanded a million bucks for him.
They license every single thing separately, which is why up until IDW, none of the American Godzilla comics had other Toho monsters in them (likewise why none of the American cartoons had any in them).
I do not know how IDW was able to afford all those licenses; maybe Toho cut them a deal? But since they don't seem to have the Godzilla license anymore, they probably couldn't afford to renew all those licenses.
They probably thought it was a good investment. Might explain why the company is doing so bad financial
I thought it was because of all the dumb shit they've been doing with their licenses.
It was the cumulation of lots of dumb ideas with all their licensed books, plus several failures to develop their in-house IPs into TV shows as well as their current shows getting cancelled. Now IDW is on the auctioning block, begging for a corporate buyout.
IDW has the license again
The truth is most companies are too damn cheap or stubborn to license anything other than Godzilla. Sometimes they may be genuinely ignorant and think "Godzilla" = "Toho universe" and just go on from there. Trendmasters, Pipeworks, and IDW are far from the biggest in their respective fields, but they actually bothered to get more than Godzilla.
>this is how Godzilla dabs
Even Legendary cheaped out on the Toho kaiju cameos in KOTM. Their original art had Kumonga, Kamacuras and Gamera (oops) among the Titans that gather around the world. In the movie, they swap them all out with new kaiju or obvious approximations (like the spider with the Cthulhu face in place of Kumonga). Multi million dollar Hollywood blockbuster, but they still didn't want to pay Toho to license some of their monsters just for cameos.
There's an Anguirus skeleton in Godzilla's temple home.
The reason they went with mostly original monsters is because
1. Dougherty felt it was more in the spirit of the Toho films, which kept introducing new monsters as they went along
2. Even just licensing the name of a classic Toho kaiju is stupidly expensive
>“I wish I could have brought in a few more of the classic Toho creatures but they all come at a price. They’ve all got their fees, and so it was a choice. Do I want to shell out money to use a Toho creature by name or do I want to actually put that money on-screen in a visual effects shot?” Dougherty explained.
>Yeah, yeah. Originally we kicked around the idea of letting the other Titans be the more traditional Toho creatures, but the Toho creatures all come at a cost. Even mentioning them by name would cost us a certain amount of money. So I still think that some of the other classic Toho creatures are simply undiscovered because this film says there’s 17 and counting. As far as I’m concerned, they’re probably discovering a new hibernating Titan every other month or so. So you could very easily have King Caesar or Gigan discovered somewhere else on the planet. For now we chose to invent some original creatures because that’s also part of the fun of the Toho monsters is that they’re always adding new monsters. Every movie they come up with a new creature so it was sort of a joy just to get to add to that ecosystem.
Imagine having to pay a stupidly expensive fee just to mention Varan or Maguma. Fuckin Toho.
I know it would be awesome to live in a world where you had no way to keep hold of what you create lest everyone else ruin it, but it's a price we must pay to avoid the destruction of what we love.
>nutted but she still suckin'
I want to thank Pacific rim for bringing giant monsters back. Maybe not for popularizing the kaiju word. Because of it Jeremy Robinson would write nemesis books which is about the closet English speakers will ever get to a mew godzilla novel.
But Dougherty isn't Emmerich. He loves Godzilla. Toho's always had its bad decisions like refusing to let Kurosawa direct a Godzilla movie or telling Urobuchi not to add any giant monster battles in the anime trilogy.
This looks lewd.
Any word on if Toho is going to extend Legendary's contract after Kong vs. Godzilla, or are they still planning to go full throttle into their Japanese-made "World of Godzilla" film series?
I thought Godzilla was just capable of following the damn boat.
Also, that was like a tiny tanker but it had hydrofoils and jato rockets...
Its unlikely given boxoffice sales. It didn't even do as good as kong.
KOTM already had all of the A-listers except MechaGodzilla. How much did they cost compared to how much Gorosaurus or Megalon would cost? Unless Toei was acting dumb and said "You can use Ghidorah at a low cost, but once-second cameos of Hedorah or Ebirah cost $50 million each!"
Those quotes from Dougherty made it sound like an either/or thing. Like they'd blown through all their licensing budget on Godzilla, the roar, Mothra, Rodan, Ghidorah, Serizawa, the Oxygen Destroyer, and the Ifukube music. He said it came down to paying for visual fx or paying for another license just to do cameos. If they had to pull money out of the FX budget to supplement their licensing budget, then they'd already blown through their licensing budget.
>critics unite and go on copypaste tirades about "Too much monsters, not enough human drama, why isn't the writing Shakespearean" and attacking the Toho films for no reason while also saying dumb shit like "Mothra is so ugly stupid bug" and "The beam should be coming out of Godzilla's ass because this movie is poopy"
>five years ago these same people were crying about Godzilla not having enough monster action
Call me paranoid all you want but it honestly felt like a coordinated smear campaign against KOTM and Godzilla in general.
Godzilla vs. Kong might pull off a big BO because of the crossover novelty and it won't be sharing a Summer with an Avengers movie, though I'm not going to delude myself or anything. All the MonsterVerse films have been modest profits, but none of them have been MCU tier in terms of BO. That's not bad, but if that's what Toho was expecting from their contract with Legendary, then I can understand why they wouldn't renew.
On the Legendary side of things, they've already expressed interest in continuing if the series is deemed successful enough. Jury's still out on whether that's the case for the whole series thus far, and they've not displayed contempt nor joy for the current numbers thus far. As for Japan, Toho is happy because they've made a bunch of money with little cost of their own from the Legendary movies, so if Legendary asks I'm sure they'd he happy to oblige, their own series or not.
We honestly just have to wait and see after GvK, there's little point in speculation with so few concrete answers. Let's also please not let this thread devolve into box office numbers, flops, or whatever. I only bring it up due to its relevance to the statements.
>Let's also please not let this thread devolve into box office numbers, flops, or whatever. I only bring it up due to its relevance to the statements.
Godzilla is 70s tho.
Or there's just a giant divide between what hardened Godzilla fanboys and Western critics/regular people expect of these films, as has always been the case.
A very unlikely scenario might be that Toho renews Legendary's contract to continue the MonsterVerse, but they alter it so that they can produce Japanese domestic World of Godzilla films whether or not Legendary has a foreign Godzilla movie in active production.
For fans, it would mean twice the Godzilla and in both American and Japanese flavors, which would be great, but from a practical standpoint, it would mean two Godzilla series at the same time, competing with each other and cutting into each other's profits. I don't think either Legendary or Toho would be cool with that, so the likeliest outcome is Toho nixes the MonsterVerse or delays World of Godzilla, but no way we have both at the same time.
Western critics/regular people complained about the lack of monsters in 2014 along with the fans. Odd that they do a complete 180 when KOTM has a shitload of monster action.
As cheesy as it is, Hanna-Barbera made a more faithful adaptation of Godzilla than Roland Emmerich
I still shake my head when I remember the amount of hubris and disdain those two had for Godzilla. "This is what Toho would have made in 1954 if they had modern effects technology", fuck you you mental goblin.
We still got the '98 animated Godzilla series out of Roland's movie and that was fantastic.
However, I'd love a new cartoon based on either the Hanna-Barbera or the '98 type.
>As cheesy as it is, Hanna-Barbera made a more faithful adaptation of Godzilla than Roland Emmerich
A lot of people who watch the HB Godzilla series as a relic now for get to take into context what the movies were like when it was made. Most of Godzilla's behavior in the cartoon is consistent with the Toho films.
Godzooky? Movie Godzilla had a son named Minilla who was an annoying retard, too.
Godzilla saving humans? Movie Godzilla had been a good guy since Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster and humans even called to him for help, and he answered, in movies like Terror of Mechagodzilla.
Laser eyes? OK, a bullshit compromise to BS&P to reduce the use of his fire breath, but Movie Godzilla pulled out weird bullshit powers all the time, too, like when he flew using his atomic breath or that time he turned himself into a giant magnet because apparently he could just do that.
Godzilla being silly? C'mon, man, remember when he danced in Irish Jig in Invasion of Astro Monster or slid on his tail to deliver a silly kick?
HB Godzilla really wasn't that out there at the time and was pretty familiar to 70s kids who'd been watching the movies. It's only after 40 years of Godzilla being SERIOUS BUSINESS that this goofy version seems like an insult to his legacy or something.
It's all about the execution for some people. Critics and most people I know loved Shin Godzilla, and that movie had no monster fights.
Did they like it for Godzilla, or for the Japanese bureaucracy that takes up 85% of it?
You rage you lose:
>Emmerich discarded it, stating, "It had some really cool things in it, but it is something I never would have done. The last half was like watching two creatures go at it. I simply don’t like that." Emmerich instead decided to develop new ideas from scratch, stating, "I didn’t want to make the original Godzilla, I wanted nothing to do with it. I wanted to make my own. We took part of [the original movie’s] basic storyline, in that the creature becomes created by radiation and it becomes a big challenge. But that’s all we took. Then we asked ourselves what we would do today with a monster movie and a story like that. We forgot everything about the original Godzilla right there."
>imminent rape
bidibidi
They why fucking call it "Godzilla" in the first place if you're not gonna actually make a Godzilla movie?
The movie sucked balls, but I always like Zilla's design.
Toho retconning the character into a separate monster from Godzilla with the name Zilla was one of the smarter decisions they've made. It actually went a long way in improving the character's reputation with fans, now that he's just another monster and not an incarnation of Godzilla. He's got a sort of underdog vibe, now, and can at least chill in the C tier along with Varan and Baragon and Manda.
What are these tiers and who is in each of them?
I was kinda kidding, but TOHO does have a "Fab Five" grouping for their monsters: Godzilla, Mothra, King Ghidorah, Mechagodzilla and for some reason Rodan. I guess you could call that the A tier.
Who ranks in what tier below that is up to debate; you could probably balance qualities like "did they have a solo movie before being folded into the Godzilla franchise" along with "have they appeared on multiple occasions" backed up with "are they popular?" and finally factor in "have they only appeared in non-movie media like tv shows or comics?" to noodle out your monster grades.
Those are the most popular and well-known of the kaiju family, having appeared in every era of the franchise.
Monsters like Baragon and Anguirus would be in B tier, since they're popular but haven't made as many film appearances as the Big Five. Could probably put in Gorosaurus as well since he has a big fan base.
Yeah, B would have guys like Anguirus, Baragon (who is beloved in Japan but not so much the US), Gigan, Destoroyah and maybe Hedorah.
C would be dudes like Orga, Megaguirus, Megalon, Battra. Main villain adversaries that starred in movies but never caught on as good villains.
D is where shitters, "they're just normal animals but bigger" and Literal Whos go, like Maguma, Varan, Ebirah, Odako, Kumonga, Kamacuras, etc.
F tier is the Extended Universe characters like Chrystallak or Bagan.
>Bagan in F
Nigga that guy's got so many fans and people wanting to see him in an actual movie and is one of the most well-known little-used kaiju, he's in C at least.
>Krystalak
Agreed there, waste of a slot in Unleashed. But Obsidius is God-tier.
>Nigga that guy's got so many fans and people wanting to see him in an actual movie and is one of the most well-known little-used kaiju, he's in C at least.
Lmao no
Lmao yes
Rare screenshot of the Japanese version of KOTM
>Godzilla being silly? C'mon, man, remember when he danced in Irish Jig in Invasion of Astro Monster or slid on his tail to deliver a silly kick?
I don't recall him acting silly in the cartoon though. He was drawn weird at times but that was the art department and not the writing.
He acted silly sometimes, like that time he waved BYE BYE to everyone like a total faggot.
Also, here's an actual advertisement for the show that Boomerang ran:
MAKE WAY, YOU FUCKING VIRGINS
MAKE WAY FOR THE TRUE KING
Godzilla, no!
Godzilla yes?
This is reflected in the concept art book. The bowing scene had Anguirus, Baragon, Kamacuras and Kumonga. Another piece had Gigan with the Legendary Titans in Boston.
Mothra was here
Rodan is a turkey
"GOD, GODZILLA, SHE'S A 300 YEAR OLD DRAGON"
A good cover, but I much prefer the original BOC version.
>Godzilla sounding like he's talking with a microsoft Text-to-speech device
That would be legit creepy
Don't focus so much on the concept art. Modern concept art's often built by photobashing, IE pasting photos then painting over. The fact already-existing kaiju (even Gamera) appear in it was likely just the artists googling "kaiju" and pasting the results onto the canvas to save time over inventing all new ones just for the concept.
Why is there so much hate towards Bagan here?
The original concept of Bagan being three monsters stacked together was better.
Nah, that looks too goofy even for Godzilla.
How about the radio-only parody version Blue Oyster Cult made in response to their song not getting into the Tristar movie back in the 90s?
Communicating in ways beyond roars. Okay one instance of him being silly as he just SKREEONKs all the other times.
makes sense, godzilla has always been entry-level nerdstuff, full of unverifiable tidbits from other countries
Poor Dough was just trying to be polite and not be in trouble, cause the ugly reality is, Toho are just fucking dickbags, seriously.
>they gimped Criterion.
i think you are confusing the HB cartoon with the Zilla cartoon.
even tough the roar is used often in other things, even if modified.
lmao he looks like the "Yee" dinosaur
He grew up nice
A world without Godzooky.
Is a world filled with rainbows and peace.
Who else learned about doomsday preppers because of Y2K?
I knew about them long before Y2K, but they were very few and pretty secretive. Y2K made them explode onto the scene and become memes.
People have been preparing for The End since the beginning. I didn't know that people would take out loans to be able to purchase things with the hope that society would collapse so they wouldn't have to pay back the loans though.
And yet Godzilla would still save them. Bless his thirty-story tall self.
Swiggity swooty coming for that booty.
>telling Urobuchi not to add any giant monster battles in the anime trilogy.
Hahahaha what the FUCK
It's so stupid but true. Toho(or more specifically, the guy from Toho who was in charge of Urobutcher) wanted the anime trilogy to appeal to a wider audience, which is why they're moreso just sci-fi films with Godzilla monsters rather than Godzilla films
at least we got Godzilla Earth out of the trilogy
The leak about Shin Ultraman confirmed that Shin Godzilla 2 will be a thing, but Anno isn't making it until after Eva & Ultra so it'll probably be like 2023 or something
Not that I doubt you cuz I mean SOMEONE obviously fucked up, but do you have a source on this for future reference?
So why didn't Ultraman take off in the West? It's basically Godzilla + Power Rangers, it should've been a no-brainer for people like Haim Saban.
>they gimped Criterion
What did they do?!
gigazine.net
>Seshita:
>In the early stages of planning, Toho-san made a declaration that "This anime version Godzilla will not be a monster wrestling," or a policy check. In the early stages, we discussed the meaning of "making monsters with animation". In Japan, "presence of a monster" and "monster wrestling" have an image of a set somewhere. That is why "a monster that does not wrestle" is a bold cut, and Mr. Hou was at the stage of thinking about the original idea and starting from there. Mr. Shizuno who did not see a Godzilla movie originally told me, "Please don't look at the Godzilla movie from here onwards" with me and Hino. Shizuno-san's "How is Godzilla vomiting through the mouth?" Or an idea that can only come out from that point of view, as a result, a woman fan who has never seen the "Godzilla" series has the anime version Godzilla The strategic purpose has been achieved by creating a flow of watching the If it was only me and Hojo, the extreme story, Mechagodzilla City finally united, and it becomes Mechaagodzilla of 1km in height (laugh). From there, it's only fighting for 30 minutes. A beam, a missile flew from the finger to the eye to the nose, and then the neck turned and all gimmicks ... (laughs).
Basically, Toho and this "Shizuno" guy(who's never seen a Godzilla movie) shot down the more fanservicey stuff and wanted to appeal to a wider audience, particularly females. Though later on Shizuno talks about wanting to see Jet Jaguar so it seems like he's taken a liking to it. Seshita says that if Shizuno wasn't there, Mechagodzilla City would have turned into a giant 1km big Mechagodzilla, and the Exif would have had sunglasses like the Xiliens
all of this
>No other US cuts outside of Kotm56 and KKvG Universal, which means, no vsTheThing, no US GHIDRAH, no MonsterZero, and no Revenge, no AiP Smog monster version
>All of which are in DYING NEED of real restorations
>vsTheThing features footage cut from japanese cut
>also no AiP US dubs of Sea monster, Son or DAM
>also no export dubs of Sea Monster, Son or Gigan because of the Kraken BD releases despite Criterion getting those back as well.
>Toho literally forbid Criterion to release or restore the actual US versions of these movies.
And, here's the big one.
>Toho's 2008 transfers because Toho demands it!
>Those analogue telecine scanned with yellow piss tint soft as hell masters!
>even Sony's Showa transfers scanned in 4 years before looked much better than those, and those were actually done on ACTUAL film scanners, not telecine's
>back when no one imagined Hd becoming a home video format
>HD masters of those sony releases were made and released by other companies years ago, except for Son and Mechagodzilla74 for some dumb reason
>Mothra's Sony HD transfers were released on BD, both versions and they look stunning!
>Only G54, Kotm56 and UniversalKKvG are actual good HD scans, criterion did the earlier 2 restorations and not Toho.
Even better.
>KKvsG Japanese cut will be the 2008 version with piss yellow instagramish colores softie analogue HD footage.
>the rest will be form Toho's ancient 90s Laserdisc!! UPSCALED, WASHED OUT AND BLURRY!
>TOHO ALREADY DID A 4K restoration of G54, KKvG J, Mothra vs Godzilla, Astro Monster, and even the Matsuri cuts of Ghidrah, Sea monster and Son of Godzilla!
>NOPE, Toho's 2008 transfers are the way to go gais!!!
and people are like
>J U S T B E G L A D
They sound like a shit company, alright. Particularly since the foreign releases helped keep the franchise alive during the Showa era.
No wonder Legendary went with classic 'hero' Godzilla, instead of Toho's Heisei characterization that prevailed even during Millenium.
whoops forgot to quote you
Rooooaaaar
I always have this theme in my head
Posting Best Mothra.
>he just SKREEONKs all the other times.
Godzilla never SKREEONKs in the Hanna Barbera cartoons. He UUUWWWAAAAAUUUUGGHHHHs in that show.
Toho has always tried to handicap R1 releases of Godzilla movies. They sell the movies at a humongous upcharge in Japan, to the point where it's actually cheaper to import the R1 releases. To curb that, they used to forbid releases of the Japanese audio in R1. They eventually backed down from that, but now they gimp the R1 releases in quality and bonus content so that the Japanese releases are still desirable and worth paying for for Japanese consumers.
You are bait nigga and I just fallen into it.
Truly a beauty.
No wonder why she is called "Queen of the Monsters" in KOTM.
I would make that bug my queen if I was Godzilla.
>Posting Best Mothra
You mean this Mothra?
Oh fuck.
Something just crossed my mind.
What a Shin Mothra can look like.
I need a flamethrower now.
Leo > all other mothras.
Mothra Leo is male. NOT INTERESTED.
this series doesn't count?
Godzooky is just a Servum.
>one particular Servum who's a light green instead of blue-gray, makes gubba-rahrau noises, and constantly crashes when it lands
didi that some time ago with a pic of mine
"I think the radiation's kicking in bro"
we recently had an animated Godzilla also in... Shin Chan
youtube.com
Is he giving them the finger?
He's telling them to walk onto his hand because handplay is underrated.
ew
Did this get a Japanese dub?
As I learned for this thread apparently not, which surprises me.
No fan dub? Did Japan ever see it?
If they wanted to appeal to a wider audience, couldn't they make the anime look like a normal anime and not that ugly CG? I get the monsters being CG because how much it would cost to animate them normally, but when even the humans were fucking CG...
You assume they thought well.
Well there's the problem, see, Toho is retarded. Which is why I'm having plenty of doubts about this "World of Godzilla" project they're making, or whatever it's called, where they'll try to make further films separate from the Hollywood series and promote them in all kinds of other countries. When even the American part of the franchise is struggling, I can't see how they're expecting to reach any kind of success.
As for the incompetence of the anime movies, there's actually a conspiracy theory that says the trilogy was made to be shitty on purpose so Toho could use their loss as a tax write-off. Which sounds like a load of bs to me, but it says a lot about how people try to rationalize why the trilogy turned out so disappointing.
Which makes Shin Godzilla all the stranger. Toho has so much shifty executive meddling going on that one would have expected that movie to be more controlled and focus-tested, like how bland most of the Millennium Era movies were. But it's not and most of the production stories imply Anno and Higuchi were allowed to do whatever they wanted.
I like that one
Well, it's well known you can't meddle with Anno. Though there was one thing, Godzilla couldn't be shown evolving in the film to different forms. So the forms were shown evolving into Godzilla.
reptar was the king of dinosaurs not monsters
that ending where they all fire to the sky is fucking sick
>Zilla's weak ass fire breath