>Avengers: Infinity War was going to have a scene of Doctor Strange sending Thanos to the Living Tribunal, who judges him guilty, but it was cut for being too trippy.
>Smart Hulk was supposed to appear in IW, bursting out of the Hulkbuster to fight Cull Obsidian, but that was cut at the last minute because it wasn’t working.
>Hawkeye’s family being dusted was shot for IW but they felt it worked better as the opening of Avengers: Endgame.
>The Avengers asked Captain Marvel to rescue Iron Man and Nebula, and she found them due to a homing beacon on their ship.
>Robert Downey Jr. ad-libbed Iron Man’s rant at Captain America. The script called for him to break down and blame himself as well.
>They wanted to keep old Thanos alive, but knew he needed to die for the plot to progress the way they needed.
>They know the rat setting Ant-Man free was a huge coincidence, but felt they were allowed to have one as long as it happened in the first act.
>There’s a longer version of Ant-Man dealing with the impound guard played by Ken Jeong that got cut for time.
>The Russos’ favorite easter egg is the Hulk eating the “Hunka Hulka Burnin’ Fudge” at the diner.
>Thor was initially going to be the bloodthirsty vigilante, but they felt it was a retread and gave that story to Hawkeye instead. Chris Hemsworth then suggested fat drunk Thor.
>That scene with the Avengers talking about how Back to the Future was bullshit was added in reshoots after test-audiences didn’t understand the movie’s time travel mechanics and kept saying that’s not how it worked in Back to the Future in their forms.
>The Quantum Suits were completely CGI.
>They were reluctant to go back to The Avengers, so in the first drafts of the script, they instead had Cap and Ant-Man retrieve the Mind Stone from the Triskelion in 2014, while Rocket and Scarlet Witch (who would not have been dusted) go on a road trip from Washington to New York to get the Time Stone from the Ancient One.
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>In these versions, Stark would go to Asgard with Thor to get the Space Stone and the Reality Stone and get into a fight with Heimdall at Odin’s vault.
>Thor was supposed to fight his past self, but the idea was eventually reworked for Captain America.
>Thor was also supposed to talk to Jane Foster about their relationship, but it would be too much and they favored his talk with his mom.
>Early versions also had Black Widow and Hawkeye helping War Machine and Nebula get the Power Stone. The planet would be underwater and they’d fight a sea monster to reach the temple where the Power Stone was.
>The original version of the Soul Stone scene they shot had Black Widow and Hawkeye get attacked by Thanos’ goons on Vormir. It didn’t work so they reshot it.
>They definitely thought about having Hawkeye be the one to die on Vormir.
>Thanos reverse-engineered and mass-produced the Pym particle that Nebula had to go back to the present to bring his army to 2023.
>Nebula didn’t know the Soul Stone required a sacrifice. From her perspective, Gamora’s death was because she tried to stop Thanos.
>”America’s ass” joke was highly controversial and almost cut several times.
>The Alexander Pierce cameo was Robert Redford’s last acting gig before retirement.
>Cap seeing Peggy Carter in 1970’s SHIELD almost didn’t make the cut.
>They consider that scene at the pier Black Widow’s funeral.
>Black Widow and 2018 Gamora are perma-dead. Soul Stone sacrifices are irreversible.
>Hulk’s arm is permanently gimped from using the gauntlet. They felt he needed to sacrifice something to win.
>Some versions of the script had the dusted Avengers come back on the compound and Spider-Man convinces everyone to have a pizza party right before Thanos’ attacks, but that was changed so they could have the portals scene.
>Thanos’ blade is a reference to the Thanoscopter and made of something even stronger than Vibranium, so it can break Cap’s shield. Eitri might have made it.
>Thanos would originally arrive at the future after attacking 2014 Earth and killing the Avengers, and he would toss 2014’s Cap’s severed head at 2023’s Cap’s feet. Cut due to rating.
>The final battle was originally much longer and with more character interactions. A lot of it was filmed but got cut.
>Nick Fury and Maria Hill weren’t included in the final battle because they would look lame taking on Thanos’ army with guns.
>Strange always knew Stark had to die for them to win.
>The gauntlet was made from the same nanotech as Stark’s suit, hence why he managed to steal the stones.
>They went through a lot of final words ("Eat it, Barney","Fuck off", etc) before the editor suggested "I am Iron Man". It was filmed in reshoots.
>Iron Man’s death was the last scene shot for the movie and was filmed at the very same building RDJ first auditioned for the role.
>RDJ insisted that Iron Man say nothing after getting fucked up by the snap, to convey the seriousness of the situation.
>Originally, after the snap, Stark was supposed to have a vision of his daughter as an adult, played by 13 Reasons Why‘s Katherine Langford, but the scene didn’t test well and was cut.
>Stark’s funeral was the most expensive and difficult shot in the movie, and they told the cast they were filming a wedding to avoid leaks.
>They cut a scene confirming Gamora survived Stark’s snap to leave her fate ambiguous.
>They cut a scene where Thor tries to kiss Valkyrie after making her queen and gets shot down.
>They consulted with James Gunn before having Thor leave with the Guardians of the Galaxy.
>Bucky knew Cap would stay in the past.
>They considering giving the shield to Bucky, but Falcon made more sense.
>Peggy’s door is open in the last scene because Cap had just appeared at her doorstep seconds before.
>They always intended for Stark to die and Cap to retire as a reversal of where they originally started (Stark wanted to retire, Cap always expected to die fighting).
>>Some versions of the script had the dusted Avengers come back on the compound and Spider-Man convinces everyone to have a pizza party right before Thanos’ attacks, but that was changed so they could have the portals scene.
I can see Yea Forums getting pissed if it happened
>>The Alexander Pierce cameo was Robert Redford’s last acting gig before retirement.
Apparently not, since he's playing himself in that Watchmen show.
>>The final battle was originally much longer and with more character interactions. A lot of it was filmed but got cut.
Booo
Facial likeness, not actual filmed material
wrong
>Hulk’s arm is permanently gimped from using the gauntlet.
Sure it is.
Until a future movie when another director decides otherwise, like Thor's eye.
>we could've had Living Tirbunal
>cut because normies wouldn't have understood
What's even the point of the MCU anymore
>Some versions of the script had the dusted Avengers come back on the compound and Spider-Man convinces everyone to have a pizza party right before Thanos’ attacks, but that was changed so they could have the portals scene.
Nice try sneaking that in, Raimi.
The Russos also said they considered having Thor regain his original physique through Quantum Realm shenanigans but thought that it played his depression a little TOO light and that him still kicking ass despite the extra weight was a better direction.
Hopefully he shows up in Strange's next movie and gets butthurt at him for fucking with the multiverse or something
Jesus Christ why are plebs always so filtered by time travel shit?
>original version
it's Alternate version, since some of these were specifically written to make no sense, to confuse potential leaks. (since only certain actors had certain parts of the script, nobody ever had the whole script)
Neither of these were part of the fake scripts to throw off leakers, this is all stuff that was genuinely considered and discarded.
>Thanos’ blade is a reference to the Thanoscopter
holy fuck no way
calling bullshit on this whole thread
>Spider-Man convinces everyone to have a pizza party right before Thanos’ attacks,
bullshit. These are the red herring Alternate Versions.
>>Avengers: Infinity War was going to have a scene of Doctor Strange sending Thanos to the Living Tribunal, who judges him guilty
Ok, but wouldn't the movie have just ended there? Unless MCU LT < infinity stones
Well, there goes the theory that there was a cut scene where Hulk saw Natasha in the soul world and tried to bring her back. And that’s why he was so certain it wasn’t possible.
Jim Starlin confirmed it.
It's a stupid idea, but one they considered nevertheless.
These things happen. Need I remind you of the Iron Man 3 sextape subplot?
>kept saying that’s not how it worked in Back to the Future in their forms.
So basically they added that to tell their test audiences to fuck off
Again, bullshit.
This tactic of writing up fake scripts has been around since after the first Avengers movie, just admit that you fucking can't tell a bullshit nonsensical plot from one that makes sense.
"Orignal Version" my ass.
Because there are enough issues with time travel paradoxes and loopholes that people will try and bring Natasha's sweet ass back to life.
>That scene with the Avengers talking about how Back to the Future was bullshit was added in reshoots after test-audiences didn’t understand the movie’s time travel mechanics and kept saying that’s not how it worked in Back to the Future in their forms.
That's gold.
>>That scene with the Avengers talking about how Back to the Future was bullshit was added in reshoots after test-audiences didn’t understand the movie’s time travel mechanics and kept saying that’s not how it worked in Back to the Future in their forms.
Normies btfo
>>They consider that scene at the pier Black Widow’s funeral.
I thought that was obvious.
>The Avengers asked Captain Marvel to rescue Iron Man and Nebula, and she found them due to a homing beacon on their ship.
They literally didn't know her at that point?
>Thanos’ blade is a reference to the Thanoscopter
Unironically based.
They couldn't have known that Tony was stranded either.
>Thanos would originally arrive at the future after attacking 2014 Earth and killing the Avengers, and he would toss 2014’s Cap’s severed head at 2023’s Cap’s feet. Cut due to rating.
For some reason this is both creepy AND depressing all at once, than just merely one of them, but I can't figure out why.
The writers themselves said it was an idea they seriously considered and eventually scrapped for being stupid.
Cope.
So, some of these things could actually make the movies more salvageable and they got cut because.
...And then all this shit.
>Black Widow and 2018 Gamora are perma-dead. Soul Stone sacrifices are irreversible.
Way to kill possible hype for the Black Widow movie lol what a shitshow
Also extra confusing
Unless you grab'em out of the time stream pre-sacrifice apparently.
Probably not because "lol that's not how time travel works here, except when it does"
>DC will never be loved by fans after this
I hate that deaths incurred during the recovery of the Soul Stone are permanent. It just makes no fucking sense. You're telling me that together these rocks can literally kill (or resurrect) an entire universe's worth of people... but one of them separately just can't be controlled? That's retarded. They should have zero limitations outside of possibly killing their wielder (which is a pretty goddamn big limitation, isn't it?)
Surely their next movie will endear them to the thriving Active Shooter audience.
DC is too focused on making a quick buck. The MCU grew over a decade. I can't see them finding a director with a vision that wide-ranging let alone the freedom and time required to build something like what Disney has.
I think it's great. What is the weight to obtaining that stone in the first place if you could just bring back the sacrifice once you've gathered the rest?
Don't kid yourself. Marvel is entirely focused on making a quick buck, too. They just managed to find a couple random fuck off first time directors who gave enough of a shit to make something worth watching.
>Robert Downey Jr. ad-libbed Iron Man’s rant at Captain America. The script called for him to break down and blame himself as well.
Would have made more sense if he did this but then again blaming Cap for not being there for him when Tony was the one who didn't want to call him and being irrational is more in character with Tony.
Why did he grab the Power Stone to force back Captain Marvel? Why not grab the Soul Stone and punch her fucking soul out? That seems much more effective.
Yeah. Nobody would have really blinked if the final battle was 5-10 minutes longer.
Well sure, but I'm sure it still took a helluva lot of backroom dealings to convince the suits at Disney to allow for the creation of over a dozen connected films. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if they just flat out said no at first.
>calling bullshit on this whole thread
And Starlin disliked Thanoscopter since he's been asked about it enough times to make him sick of it. So if he says this is true it must be. Besides he was there on set when these were being filmed.
He deserved to be in Endgame
I don't know man, time travel easily fixed that issue. If that is the case, shouldn't returning a soul give you a soul?
When Marvel started the MCU they hadn't even been bought by Disney yet. Disney just lucked into it.
>>They always intended for Stark to die and Cap to retire as a reversal of where they originally started (Stark wanted to retire, Cap always expected to die fighting).
More subversion bullshit
Because if her soul is separated from her body, now she can possess the body of anyone on the battlefield.
No. This was just a quick buck, the fact that you think it’s different just means your an idiot
You're talking out of your ass. Why make a quick buck when you can make billions? Even if they didn't know what they had when they started, they sure as hell figured it out around the time of Iron Man 2.
An economics major you are not, sir.
That's not subversion, that's characters having an arc.
Despite what Schmidt says, it probably only works one way, otherwise we would've gotten Black Widow back at the end of the movie (and Thanos would've returned his instead of just obliterating it)
If you think about it, these movies are all about deconstruction/subversion, instead of playing superheroes straight.
It's just like the comics
The fact that time travel works at all outside of the Time Stone means the whole Soul Stone gimmick is bullshit anyway. How can you have a person's soul trapped in Soulworld but have that same person (and their soul) alive and well in the past? So what, every living being has two souls just in case you lose one?
>Thanos would've returned his instead of just obliterating it
Why would he return it? Not like Red Skull said you can give it back and Gamora will come back. Plus why would he give his enemies a chance to undo his Kino snap? The movie just make the stones into a joke.
>”America’s ass” joke was highly controversial and almost cut several times.
This ended up being one if the most quoted parts of the movie so I'm sure they're glad.
>They consulted with James Gunn before having Thor leave with the Guardians of the Galaxy.
Is this hope that Gunn won't just dump Thor in the first 10 minutes?
we already knew Black Widow is a flashback, though
>they would look lame taking on Thanos’ army with guns.
but Bucky is fine, I guess
Less ridiculous than an army of niggers with shield-robes and laser sticks.
OH WAIT
>Thanos would originally arrive at the future after attacking 2014 Earth and killing the Avengers, and he would toss 2014’s Cap’s severed head at 2023’s Cap’s feet. Cut due to rating.
Did they film it?
Why would Maria Hill be included at all, anyway? Does that bitch have fans?!
Quads for truth. Wonder how that'll do.
I suppose this happen after the post credits scene of Captain Marvel movie.
Probably not, seeing as how she was replaced with a skrull.
ok sure Hill is whatever but Fury shoulda been there. Have him take Coulson's big zappy Destroyer gun from Avengers 1
They explained it in the movie with shiny CGI graphics; "time travel" is just alternate universes. Gamora is still/was still trapped in the main timeline, they just brought another version of her to that one
Okay, but where did Cap get the fucking unbroken shield?
>The timeline he returned to has Thanos removed
>This means it is now an alternate timeline where none of the snap shit happened
>Somehow end up in the same time line as the fags where the snap shit happened
I’m glad someone is willing to because god knows how many films have been butchered because they tried to please the biggest retards pulled off the street.
unfroze himself and took it with him when he went back
I mean the writers also mentioned this in some interview
>bursting out of the Hulkbuster to fight Cull Obsidian
I was a little disappointed that something like this didn't happen.
He’s good friends with the king of Vibranium Land, man.
A super soldier with Vibranium bullets makes more sense than a middle age woman and a old gramps with normal ones.
???????? He would still be in another timeline, not the same timeline as these fags
no, because he just went back to the original timeline with Pym Particles
Good decision, i forgot he was fat when he summoned Stormbreaker and Mjolnir because that scene was good.
>They literally didn't know her at that point?
Rocket asked them to find the Guardians’ ship.
>Steve and Scott infiltrating SHIELD during The Winter Soldier
That would have been great.
I wonder what Nebula and Rhodey did together because they already seemed to have some rapport before they went on their mission.
>>They considering giving the shield to Bucky, but Falcon made more sense.
Why would it make sense? Falcon isn't a super soldier like Bucky & Cap. Plus, it would give Bucky an identity outside of being the Winter Soldier.
Shoot better yet, have both of them become Captain America. Falcon Cap & Winter Cap.
Bucky's a former terrorist. Not his fault but that's an automatic disqualification for the role.
The order of events is Avengers find Fury's pager > Post-Credits scene of CM > start of Endgame
Have any of you dumb niggers ever actually looked at the shield that Steve hands to Falcon?
It's not the same design as the original shield, it has a weird seam in the the silver stripe.
Obviously before Steve came back to the present he asked the Wakandans or somebody to forge a second fucking shield, how hard is this to figure out, god damn.
To come back to the original timeline he would need the platform / machine Hulk was using. Just the suit wasn't enough
>Well in my headcanon he was X
Well, fuck you too niggers
>>Stark’s funeral was the most expensive and difficult shot in the movie, and they told the cast they were filming a wedding to avoid leaks.
This is what I have a hard time believing, unless it was filmed piecemeal and stitched together. The whole atmosphere is way to somber and EVERYONE is in black. Whose wedding was it supposed to be? Pepper/Tony's? Was RDJ standing off to the side in a white tux and they told everyone that Morgan was just a flower girl?
They probably meant "we told the cast we were going to film a wedding and then told them what it really was after they all showed up."
All of this cut footage and they show unfinished CGI hulk for the theater re-release lmao
2014 Thanos is probably most familiar with the Power Stone
>Chris Hemsworth then suggested fat drunk Thor.
Hemsworth continues to be pretty good when given some fucking room to work. I've heard he was one of the better parts of that Ghostbusters movie too, though I haven't seen it myself.
>To come back to the original timeline he would need the platform / machine Hulk was using. Just the suit wasn't enough
This is obviously not true, are you dumb? Tony and Steve take a completely unplanned jaunt to a place they weren't planning to go, no need for any sort of machine or platform.
No, he wasn't.
Saying Hemsworth was the better part of Ghostbusters doesn't say much because of how low a bar it sets.
Hemsworth played a total retard in Ghostbusters. And not in a sometimes funny way that Will Ferrel and Jim Carey have done in the past on occasion. Just total retard.
nice headcanon.
got a source for your shit? mine is the featurette
>Nick Fury and Maria Hill weren’t included in the final battle because they would look lame taking on Thanos’ army with guns.
What kind of bullshit excuse is that. Just bring the helicarrier and quinjets . With Nick giving orders. And let him airdrop Goose
>They considering giving the shield to Bucky, but Falcon made more sense
What. How ?
>And Starlin disliked Thanoscopter since he's been asked about it enough times to make him sick of it
That seems like an appropriate response to al those request, then.
>>Thor was also supposed to talk to Jane Foster about their relationship, but it would be too much and they favored his talk with his mom
The better choice.
>Chris Hemsworth then suggested fat drunk Thor.
Based Chris
>>Thanos’ blade is a reference to the Thanoscopter and made of something even stronger than Vibranium
So,, it's made of adamantium?
I mean, Vibranium isn't even meant to be the strongest metal, it's just is the best at absorbing vibration and chocks.
Bucky is shit
Or just some super space metal. Something Thanos could have easily come across while searching the universe for the stones.
or like
the post credit scene
The first MCU movies are still better than the DCU movies.
If the heroes for hire leak is true then chances are good he won't even stay as daredevil.
>To come back to the original timeline he would need the platform / machine Hulk was using. Just the suit wasn't enough
He had Pymm helping him out.
Also, Hulk actually said he overshoot his return point.
Ironic, isn't it?
AND than the rest of the MCU.
>while Rocket and Scarlet Witch (who would not have been dusted) go on a road trip from Washington to New York to get the Time Stone from the Ancient One.
Would've been better if they stole the mind stone from Ultron and have her reunite with her brother
I meant steal it from Von strucker not Ultron and have her reunite with her brother
That scene takes place just before the Diner scene, dipshit
Why not use mind stone and just control her. We never saw mind stone in action since Ultron.
>Bucky knew Cap would stay in the past.
I thought that was extremely obvious.
>Just bring the helicarrier and quinjets
As cool as that would be they did that in Avengers 2.
lol RDJ cant even fathom his character doing something wrong
what a fucking hack
Unless his problem was with Tony admitting he was wrong.
Probably because Bucky’s reputation is too tarnished.
Bucky in the MCU is not really motivated to undertake active superheroing. His entire presence in the MCU is basically dealing with the shit forced upon him. From being a Hydra sleeper agent to an alien army invading the place he was receiving medical treatment. Falcon, meanwhile, is the one most pursuing a career like Steve's.
>Eat it, Barney
Sorta wish we got this final line
They could easy release a new extended version and normies would eat it up. They appear to have plenty of extra footage and I'd watch a 4 hour cut.
It’s a money printing machine.
I havent bust a nut as hard as when thanos Yoted CM into another planet since.
But I liked him
Bingo.
>They considering giving the shield to Bucky, but Falcon made more sense.
It didn't
>2018 Gamora
>perma-dead
fuck you, man. i mean i knew this. but still
it seriously should have been longer. it was what, 30 minutes? i mean by that point we were already sitting for 2 1/2 hours
Honestly I knew she was gone for good but fuck man
She grew so much and was arguably part of the best mcu relationship
The fact that she’s just.....gone......
Fuck, man.
Would have driven home that even pre-CW, even united, even without the Stones in play, they had no chance against Thanos.
What's the leak?
Black Widow film exists to set up her successor
No he did not
Do people really give a shit about legacies? I know they do for some reason in DC comics, but in movies?
It did
If you can tell the story well, it's can be a very powerful emotional core. We've seen a rash of movies recently that are effectively about the older main character actor now passing off the mantle of the MC role to a newer, younger actor. The transition between generations, mentoring your successor to take up your role, is a very, very intrinsic part of the human experience for normalfags.
So yes, people give a shit about legacies. But it has to feel earned, or else it's obvious you're just shilling a new person.
>Cap seeing Peggy Carter in 1970’s SHIELD almost didn’t make the cut.
That's pretty dumb. Cap checking his pocket watch was the set up for that scene.
He should have been introduced in Civil War on Cap's side, and then get into the Avengers during the Infinity stuff.
I'm pretty sure that "eat it barney" was a joke some guy on Yea Forums came up with and Thanos blade being a reference to the Thanoscopter was never actually confirmed
>Hulk’s arm is permanently gimped from using the gauntlet. They felt he needed to sacrifice something to win.
I am not happy with this.
I want that beheading scene. It could have worked with Tangos showing them Cap's shield and Ironman's reactor.
Could be Uru, like Mjolnir
He'll get a Bucky arm or something.
>Tangos
>Tango-off bro, you and me
>>”America’s ass” joke was highly controversial and almost cut several times.
What a bunch of jackasses
> They almost cut America's ass
SAVED
You're wrong on both accounts.
>"America's ass" was controversial
Fuck you. I'm as autistic republican as you can get, and I loved that line.