IDW Sonic The Hedgehog: Tangle & Whisper #1 Storytime

Cover A by Evan Stanley

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Cover B by Natalie Fourdraine (switchin' up the formula a bit)

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Retail Incentive cover by Diana Skelly

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San Diego Comic Con variant also by Evan Stanley (there's also another SDCC variant from Diamond, but it's just this cover but with everything but T&W in monochrome, like a lot of the issue 1 variants)

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Written by Ian Flynn (you'd say "No Shit" but there has been some non-Ian writers on some of the previous side-book stuff for IDW Sonic), lineart by Evan Stanley, colors by Matt Herms

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Chronologically, this miniseries is stated to be between issues 16 and 17 (or if you're going by trades, Trade 4 and Trade 5), after Tangle visits Sonic in issue 16, but before the Metal Virus stuff starts getting really out of hand

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and here's the start of the stuff not in the preview issue (well the preview issue also lacked page 1, but you know what I mean)

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I think thank kicking one is the real sonic.

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look guys Rotor's back

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>not recognizing Chumley from Sonic Boom

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Wait hold the fuck up?

Is that SONIC.EXE?!

Did they go and actually incorporate that shit into official material?!

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This felt like 1/3 of a good issue streeeeetched out. Writing's okay, art's great, but damn it's slow.

Not quite Sonic ExE but still an obvious inspiration so I hate it regardless.

I like the slow pace, makes the dialogue come out much smoother.

Haha, yeah. H-haha, yeah, he is.

Goddamn it.

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Does Ian's wife work at IDW too? She wrote some nice stories back at Archie. I wish she'd do some for IDW.

we haven't seen Aleah show up yet, unfortunately

I'm bored.

3 weeks till mini issue 2, then 4 weeks after that for mini issue 3, then 6 weeks till mini issue 4 (with each month's respective main book issue coming out the previous week)

I really liked the art and the dialogue didn't feel as forced as some of these comics can be, though I do think things could be at least a little faster.

Bump so I can read later

bump for this user

Cubey is the sensitive one.

Not bad, overall. Really focuses on setting up the next issue. What powers does mimic have besides looking like people? Is his knife the only actual offensive thing he's got?

>Trembling.
My Little War Veteran Can't Be This Cute.

OCs fighting OCs, what fun.

Whisper is cute!

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Well if shapeshifting into people sized things is all you got outside of slightly above average athleticism, a close quarters weapon used when your enemy's guard is down is a good choice.

Do not know why, but whisper just looks .... a cross between weird and off

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odd, it's the same artist that designed her/drew her in her debut issue

Considering it's not just Sonic running directly into the next problem for once, yeah, fun.

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>there's a gap between issue 2 and issue 3's images and overlap between issue 3 and issue 4's image instead of just fitting nicely together like issue 1 and 2's images do

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>I was never really on your side.

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Not saying in this issue, just her design overall. I do not hate the character or the design, hard to pinpoint it exactly whats weird/off

okay that's fair then

There is no reason for this comic to exist.

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Agreed. No matter at what perspective, what do you hope from the comic, and whether if you are or not fan of Archie Sonic... There's just no single exclusive point here it existing. Mr. Tinker has been the only thing coming from it that has entertained me quite.

Sonic must be doing well at IDW if it's getting mini-series, finger crossed for Sonic Universe ass spin-off.

apparently Sonic is one of IDW's best selling titles (the only other IDW stuff rivaling it being Transformers, some Marvel Action stuff co-published with Marvel, and some TMNT issues)

I'm already tired of the Metal virus arc, is it going to end anytime soon?

user... user, I...

It's going to last until december.

Mother fucker.

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actually it's gonna last into 2020
Though I really hope that when they stated that at SDCC they mean "it'll end with issue 25 in January"

How the hell are they even going to be able to end this storyline? What could Tails or Starline possibly pull out of their asses to counter and reverse the virus?

>Whisper's mask has built in cameras and video playback

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Chekov's gun has been hanging on the wall since the first act, just waiting to be fired.

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So now the Chaos Emeralds are going to gain the power to reverse the Metal Virus. Swell.

Why do these comics take literally forever to update and get new issues out

Her wisps are adorable
I remember some user posting the theory that Whisper was an undercover villain and was cruel to her wisps off panel, I could not stand it if such thing were truth

>liking wisps in any form

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Chaos energy can already do all sorts of stupid bullshit, so what's one more thing added to the list?

Sure didn't do anything to help Shadow.

Shadow didn't have seven emeralds shoved up his ass when he decided to be Vegeta.

But he's a conduit to the Chaos Power, and he doesn't need the emeralds to tap and use it.

Why doesn't he go Super all the time then?

Not all that surprising because it became clear in early 10's that what keeps this comic afloat is incredibly dedicated community and they simply just follow wherever the team of the comic goes. I think it kind of transformed somewhere along the way from "we like the comic lore, we like everything about this garbage" to "we like everything these guys do with this garbage" (meaning Flynn, Yardley, Stanley and etc).

Shadow can tap to chaos energy to some extend but he still needs the emeralds to access his super form.

>garbage
The Dork Ages were, yes, but after Flynn came aboard it got a hell of a lot better.

A polished turd is still a turd, and Ian is mediocre at best.

Ah, you're of the "It was always bad and nothing will change my mind" mentality. Carry on.

Sorry, I'm still rather new to Sonic shit
Why do people dislike wisps?

Less that and more “over the years the flaws in his writing have really started to become more apparent but since he knows how to fan-wank well it some fans think it makes up for his flaws and feel he doesn’t need to improve at all”

They’re ugly looking power-ups that became over-praised and then overused in the franchise and since a good chunk of them basically functioned as secondary abilities of other characters it means to some fans they’re taking the place of said characters being playable ever again

What's so bad about his writing?

Well, I meant garbage not in a bad way, I enjoy it, but I also know it's just kids' stuff, I just know what I enjoy and don't pretend it can be what it isn't. It's kind of like how people call junk food junk food, it's not literally junk, but it's not good either, and you will eat it at some point.

Not him but I find it is good in concept most of the time but lacks punch.

It's cute characters doing cute and awesome things. Good enough for me.

Wow, I didn't even know sonic was still a thing. I mean, after making the black hedgehog a gun loving nigger you'd think they'd know when to call it quits.

We've gone from blind faith to rational disdain to irrational disgust in just one year.

>"Anyone who does not enjoy a writer I enjoy must have made up their mind before giving him a chance."
You people are awful.

> Whisper frantically gesticulating because she can't talk to explain

What is her issue? Sometimes she talks normally.

I think she might be pressing something inside her fancy ass mask to start the playback.

His grasp and utilization of the characters is good and his concepts for stories are fine but his actual script/dialogue can be rather hit and miss with him relying to much on referential humor at times (especially when it comes to putting song lyrics in scripts), and he has a massive problem with pacing and stretching shit out longer than it needs to in order to try and “build up” a longer narrative when at this moment we’re not even sure if the comic or it’s publisher will last long enough for it to get there.

*Poor sense of character voice (syntax is mostly the same between characters outside of directly emulated lines/words from games)
*Tendency to drag stories out
*Poor choreography/sense of space (characters rarely act based upon physical state, five feet away can be equivalent to a hair's breadth or a mile depending on what the script wants, characters tend to slide around to where they need to be, environment rarely taken into consideration)
*Lack of character agency (characters only act on their designated turn, and only if they "matter")
*References in place of jokes
*References shoehorned into dramatic scenes purely for recognition

i'm so confused about what's going on with this miniseries, i keep hearing they're all out but so far only 1 seems to be

FUCK... IS WHISPER IS CUTE!!!

I want to impregnate whisper. whats her deal?

Fire Ian Flynn and re-hire Michael Gallagher. Less autism, more corny puns!!

Autistic people have singlehandedly kept the Sonic franchise on life support for the past 20 years. You alienate the autists and Sonic dies.

I'm OK with this

>Gallagher

I would do illegal things if it meant getting fun comics like this again.

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The first one came out yesterday.

True story, a few years ago I unloaded every single one of my Sonic comics. I had every issue from 1 to...230? Or up until about 2011 or so when I stopped reading them. But I kept the first 30. I will always treasure the first 30 issues (and first several spin-offs)

DeCesare was better than Gallagher, and just as fun

Tumblr User:
>I know this is probably a weird question, but did they have you do the pages shown off in T&W mini #0 promo comic before they had you did the rest of the issue, or were you just straight up working on the whole #1 at that time and they had enough pages to work with for the preview?
Evan:
>Yup! It’s unusual, but we did the preview pages a few months early (in February I think?) so they could be used for promo purposes while the rest of the issue’s script was still under review by Sega. In the meantime I was doing covers and character designs, then in April/May we really dug into getting the full issue ready.
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Here's your drink, miss Rouge.

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That's comics, kids.

When is Whisper going to blow Silver?

>not Silver blowing Whisper

Pred

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The Chaice Emeralds!