Avengers #22 Storytime

In which Aaron couldn't stop the itch to write another Ghost Riders story again, so he had to put it in Avengers.

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Also featured: the 1.000.000BC Avengers (thought he forgot about them? Guess again).

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We're back with Caselli, btw.

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Never a good idea to give your little brother a ride in the possessed car, Robbie... No matter what.

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Oh weird, I guess only Robbie could see the hellfire.

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Nobody saw this coming, surely.

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>try reading my wikipedia sometime
Hah.

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No, I don't think throwing it into the Sun will help this time, Cap.

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>1 000 000BC Avengers
Fuck

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Surprise guest appearance! With a makeover of sorts.
>"Expert in what, exactly?"
Steve, don't be naive, look at the guy.

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But that shall wait... Now, let's go on a roadtrip to an ancient excavation.

I didn't read War of the Realms so I'm assuming this Fisto-tier arm is from a Destroyer?

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And here's the kicker.

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What the fuck is this design?

Now, back to the demonic possessions in Avengers HQ...

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One thing's certain: I'm a sucker for these seemingly innocuous tools that turn out to be doomsday occult artifices.

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>car is on fire
>throw that motherfucking illegal alien into the sun
What the fuck cap?

LOOK WHAT THEY DID TO MY BOY

As someone who only skims these issues after being put off by the first couple, it seems like Robbie is actually acting like himself again which is nice. The art certainly helps

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And here's Blaze.

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Oh my god

Look how they massacred my boy

To be continued next time... With a very generic cover. Looks like Hellstrom's shenanigans broke the place.
Caselli was the selling point for me in WCA. Shame the story wasn't up to par though.

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Why the fuck can't they pick a design for him and stick with it

dubs

Aaron better not get rid of the charger and give robbie a bike

An Absolute Carnage tie-in page...
And now we're done.

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>Fossilized Metal
The "realistic and grounded" Marvel Universe.

Yep, I'm pretty sure Clint is going to die in Absolute Carnage

It was bad enough when Aaron had Doctor Strange not know who the Eternals were, but now Carol Danvers doesn't recognize Hellstrom even though I know for a fact that they've teamed up before.
I thought that with Bendis gone, we wouldn't have any of this "I don't know who that is" exposition/joke bullshit.

Aaron FINALLY acknowledges Uncle Eli.

To be fair, that Dr Strange was a little girl pretending to be him

Where did blade get that tiny man thing? [Spoiler]and where can I find one?[/spoiler]

I still don't get how a fucking normal murderous spirit can make someone a Ghost Rider. I actually like the Agents of Shield explanation more.

>Carol thinks shes pure

>Breathing gun is a Luger
Nice.
>fuck off danvers
Nice.
>hellfire street race
This was fun, thanks OP.

Anton LaVey

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>thought bubbles
Are we really doing it again? I thought bendis showed how out of place they are 10 years ago in his Avengers run.

nyet

During the awful vampire arc, Dracula's lame son was cosplaying as a kerberos panzer cop with a baby man-thing scarf. Blade took the man-thing after fucking him up.

Strange not knowing the Eternals is egregious enough (even if you can headcanon it away like ), but yeah, the Carol thing is inexcusable.

Aaron has been doing it since the beginning of this run.

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Hey, if Waid is going to hand me an easy way out of aaron's idiocy with headcannon, I'm going to take it

>Aaron has been doing it since the beginning of this run.
Even worse

They used to have a guy who tossed things into the sun for them.

>teleport it into the sun
One of these days Apalla is going to show up on earth pissed that people keep tossing shit into the sun.

>For a laugh, I took all of the hair on the top my head and put it on my chin.

Devilish!

>Stony Bark build this in tar pit, with sticks and stones.

I like that he's back to his classic look, I was getting tired of him stealing Danny's clothes

>Carol: "Try reading my wikipedia sometime."

Heh.

>The next day Robbie asked if she actually got raped by her own son

Nah, that's Tony's, he will time travel and meet Cavengers as shown in FCBD issue.

Why Tony? He has no connection with the past avengers at all, black panther, iron fist, dr strange or thor would all make better choices to blast back

He has to go back in time and fuck some dirty cave bitches, his spawn will then be the source of all humanity's alcoholism.

But user, Odin is there. He has it covered

Similar to the look he had in Aaron's Ghost Rider run. Disappointing but not shocking.

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Also this

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Did his brother magically get less retarded?

So Aaron is the absolutely the new Bendis

He's not supposed to be a normal ghost rider in the first place which is why Aaron makes no sense whenever he writes him like he's a normal ghost rider. He's not even a "real" ghost rider. Even secret wars remembered that he's not actually a proper ghost rider

WTF is this thing on Blade's shoulder??

That's how Hellstrom looked in Ghost Rider Heavens on Fire

Looks like they're building Eli Morrow up to be like Noble Kale

It's a baby Man-Thing, it creates wooden stakes for him to use on vampires and apparently wings to let him fly

It's called Boy-Thing.

That's pretty neat.

It's Boy-Thing, he got it after Dracula's son after beating his ass.

Pretty sure carol Met Hellstorm when she was a new avenger....

yeah it's from the Destroyer.

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Steve, what part of son of Satan do you not get?

She did, if Aaron really wanted a character to ask who Hellstrom is, he should have had Robbie do it since he's the only one there that hasn't met him before.

>slow is DEATH
[vgs]

>Carol

Rude

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Oh cool. Blade came back. I thought he was leaving the team last issue.

So what is his deal. I never read his books. I assumed he was like Danny Catch. What's different.

Only thing different is that he's Latino and has a car odds are they'll write off Robbie's parents being gone and the whole Eli thing as being exactly the same as the Pastor Kale, Noble Kale, Magdelena thing

Word. I've always hated that shit. There are better ways to indicate to the reader exactly who someone is than making your main cast sound like morons.

Not his fault. People seemed to think, because of the Movies, that Danny's look belonged to Johnny.

How the fuck do Carol, Blade, Robbie, and Black Panther not remember Damnation

Panther got nut shot so hard he blacked out.

In all seriousness though, I don't think anyone but Wong, Strange, and Bats knows what fully when down in Damnation.

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>Danny answered the phone drunk and hung up

When is he going to get a break?

Yeah but Robbie was there with Blaze and all the other riders in the end

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Just got a story in Marvel comics presents last month
Gets a new series in October

>Kuder on art too

Neat, I was not aware this was happening.

See, this right here is a problem:
A lot of these books got announced in the Marvel's Next Big Thing and then the solicitations, but beyond that there hasn't been much advertising aside from the author's promoting it. Just how do they expect people to support these books?

Oh and he gets his own issue during Absolute Carnage

The new Ghost Rider comic will probably get a bigger push when it drops since there's a GR centered event coming in December

This is why they need to fix Thor’s arm stat. That Destroyer arm is so comically oversized on him that it just looks ridiculous

Oh no, Aaron turned Hellstorm into a skinny version of himself.

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Apparently he doesn't know what happened beyond getting called to dog pile a devil he's never met.

Wait since when did either one wear a symbiote?

they will fix his arm and his eys after Jason Aaron is done his Thor run in like the fall.

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There was a symbiote outbreak in Mighty Avengers that got him and a few others.

It's the design Aaron had in his run on Ghost Rider.

Shit that was a long time ago. Weren't those symbiotes manmade when Doom made that bomb though?

His uncle was a Satanist and made some sort of deal with the devil that lets him semi-possess/haunt members of his family. Normal ghost riders actually have the spirit of vengeance attached instead of some random jackass serial killer.

wasnt it during carnage usa? carnage bonded most of the the new avengers to copies of his symbiote

Watch Eli will have been made into a spirit of vengeance through a satanic ritual/ human sacrifice similar to how Noble Kale was

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Fuck that's how Noble Kale became a rider

Wrong again, Kale was chosen to become the HOST of God's vengeance on Earth that it was the Fallen Angel/Demon Zarathos.
The Kale/Blaze and Balidinos are bound by Blood to become spirits of Vengeance, though Johnny became Zarathos Host and Danny became one Thanks to the Medallion bound with Kale's Spirit.
Kowalski's spirit was tainted by the satanic rituals and Hellfire was enough to seal the deal to turn him into Vengeance, Alejandra is the daughter of Adam the 1st man, so she became one due to her spirit merging with Zarathos + a dip in Pure Hellfire later on.

also Zarathos unleashed could wipe most of 616 with a whim, but his powers are limited by the host itself, Unless the host sets him lose.

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>2 Alexjandras
DAFUQ

Speaking of Vengeance, when the fuck is he coming back?

what happened to him and why would he be brought back

Last appeared in Aarons run depowered and selling Johnny's hellkite shotgun to Kowalski
Noble Kale was made into a rider by methods taught to Pastor Kale by Mephisto then Uriel interfered, the medallion was involved but the ritual is the main cause, Blackheart even restored Nobles real body towards the end of that run
Noble possessed every firstborn of his bloodline to create new riders while the other side of the kale line guarded some spellbook that only members of the kale bloodline can read (Jennifer Kale)
Naomi was bound to Noble before her death and found a way to get the curse to bypass her firstborn Johnny Blaze, but mephisto stepped in and bound john to zarathos meaning Barbara was next to get Noble but she was mortally wounded so the curse passed to Danny upon finding Naomi's bike
Badilino was bound to the medallion and made a deal with Mephisto because of a grudge against Blaze/Zarathos
Badilino died fighting Hellgate and ended up in hell but was ressurected and depowered before passing johns shotgun to Kowalski
Blackheart reconstituted Zarathos within Blaze but John suppressed him til hammer lane
Kowalski was penance stared by blaze the received a spirit when Danny fell from heaven
Alejandra was adopted by the biblical Adam who tricked blaze into exocising zarathos the used the seeker to bind her to Z but blaze shot her in the head and took Zarathos back

Which is now in Blade's hands.

And thanks user for resuming everything, i still need to re read all of Aaron and way's run

>also Zarathos unleashed could wipe most of 616 with a whim
Nice fan-fiction.

Read World War Hulk and Avengers Annual, its still canon.

The reason of why Zarathos GR didnt wiped out mojoverse was because Johnny put him back in control, plus Rogue SOMEHOW wasn't affected by it when she absorbed him, by logic her soul was tainted by the spirit of Vengeance.

Marvel seems to be trying to separate Zarathos from the whole angel thing set up in the Way/Aaron run

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Hold the fuck up, I thought Gabe already knew Robbie was Ghost Rider.

Would it be better if he had made them caption boxes?

Carol really has shitty luck with cars huh?

>Carol thought she didn't have the stain of hell
LMAO.

Eh it's dumb as hell when it comes to Aaron. Remember that thing where she tanked the Penance Stare because "she didn't feel any regret"? That sort of shit kinda makes you wonder whether it matters or not to be touched by the devil since they've watered down their own lore. Reminds me of Thanos using Cosmic Ghost Rider's Penance Stare as a genocidal jerk-o-vision, as if it worked around guilt and not the suffering imposed upon others.
Shit writing all around, I tell ya.

Why does Hawkeye look like ass here? Did the artist try to make him look like Jeremy Renner? Bad idea.

They're just going to get quick cash out of the comic and cancel it. They really don't give a fuck. Immortal Hulk has only lasted this long because people really gave a fuck about it and surprised them.

Ehh Aaron is the originator of the whole ''Penance stare doesn't work on me if I don't feel bad". He started this bullshit with his OC the Deacon.

That's what I mean, they watered down the idea of the Penance Stare to the point it doesn't really matter to be stared down by it "as long as you don't feel sorry". Stupid.
I just wouldn't want another Loveness' Nova to happen with a potentially good book. I'm not a Ghost Rider fan but I do like Kuder's art and from what I've seen it looks like it's gonna be good, so it'd be a shame it tanked because nobody took the time to promote it well over there.

Seems to forget she was a GR for a bit

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