Green Lantern Annual Storytime

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Yeah, not the strongest issue but its pretty fun, wish art was better.

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Sonic?

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Wait this would probably be a reference to that world seen in 90's Flash, wouldn't it?

This comic has been mediocre. Let's see how it goes now.

>more racemixing propaganda
Gee, thanks Sharp!

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Hey! It’s one of Krackles’s people!

>Morrison
>Not using some obscure 90s shit

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>radio kid
Since when does this exist?

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It's Comuncoli and fuck him.

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Since forever. His dad was also airwave iirc.

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WALLY NO!

>Comuncoli
Oh shit, yeah. I noticed something was different but didn't give it much thought. Why is it that everyone involved with comics is a giant faggot? Reminds me of that other Pastafag Schiti whom I follow on Insta for sketches, and he's a typical basedboi posting about how "hard" it was to watch one of those Netflix "dindu nuffin" shows. Christ, I thought our waters weren't so damn cucked.

Introducing him like Grant just did is bad writing.

Are these those energy people from that old Flash story about him outrunning instantaneous travel?

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He's Air Wave
He's been around since the 50s I think

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Naw. It functions as a pleb filter.

Morrison likes to use old and obscure characters, the Jordan family used in this issue like the grandpa is pretty obscure, If I'm not mistaken he's their Millionaire Uncle, who appeared first with Hal's brothers.

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Yes they are.

Jesus Christ, you people.

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What? Are you saying introducing long forgotten characters without any actual buildup is not bad writing?

>You know that tired old complaint about people being glued to their phones and how that's a bad thing?
>How about that, but it's because of radiowave aliens bent on revenge because we fuck up their native habitat
Fucking love Grant.

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Grant is a bad writer

All these Jordans are alive but not Jack, feels bad man.

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>not a girl
So Hal's new side kick can double date when Barry treats Hal to a hot meal?

Bro you got filtered hard.

And you're easy to spot.

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>criticizing bad writing means you're filtered
Fine by me

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Go to bed, Mark, it's way past your bedtime. Netflix needs some new ideas to burn millions on.

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>Pleb Tier Is Pleb means you're filtered

People like you make me feel ashamed to like Grant.

Because Airwave isn't that obscure anyway and doing buildups for every reintroduction of a character is even worse writing

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>if I pretend to be different people on a phone I can fake an argument

Cut this shit out.

The story was prophetic.

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PLEBIAN
AND
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>ur a pleb cuz u don't like bad writing.
>reee you criticized grant reee now I'm gonna say u pretend to be different people and fake arguments now what I bet you will suck Morrison cock now aha
Never change, shit eaters.

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You're wrong. He fucking is obscure and it needs buildup, you dumb idiot. It takes only a page to introduce someone long forgotten.
This board is so fucking shit.

You're not really helping your argument here

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Hope you guys enjoyed and if you liked it support the book in you LCS
He really isn't. You're just a pleb

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>nuh uh
Morrisonfags at their finest.

>>criticizing bad writing means you're filtered

This is the moment when you know the person complaining doesn't have a complaint of any kind, they get excessively defensive about how their complaint is perceived as opposed to explaining their complaint. Case in point:

>reee you criticized grant reee now I'm gonna say u pretend to be different people and fake arguments now what I bet you will suck Morrison cock now aha
>Never change, shit eaters.

If he had an actual complaint he wouldn't have resorted to posting like this so fast. Now he's gonna go back and try to make it sound like he has an argument, or double down on the attacks.

>nuh ur a pleb
Best argument. Keep eating shit.

This dude is acting like he's never read a Grant Morrison comic before, fucking lol. You'd have a fucking fit reading Green Lantern #9 or any other of Grant's shit

>He’s introduced as Hal’s brother with radio powers that wants to be a superhero.

That’s all you need for the story and that’s what you get.

Do you need Grant to post his Wikipedia entry as well? Go read BMHA. That’s more your speed.

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>reading comprehension
Morrisonfags don't have it.
My complaint was obvious.
But I'll try again. Morrison is a bad writer because he introduces forgotten characters out of the blue without any buildup.
>but buildup no matter grant good writer u just a pleb
The absolute state of you

He really isn't and by that point should everyone have build up if they weren't used in the last 5 years? Whats the line being being known and being obscure. You're just a pleb who doesn't really know anything about comics in a comic board. Should Bat Mite be reintroduced every time he's used? Should the Top? Should Silver Swan? Face it you don't know anything about comics

>not knowing about Hal's Cousin Hal who is Carrying on the airwave legacy of his father, the original airwave
Found the casual

>Where did these blue smurfs come from? They needed buildup!

>But I'll try again. Morrison is a bad writer because he introduces forgotten characters out of the blue without any buildup.

Not an actual argument since the book gives enough of what we need to know. I think you're just pretending you have an argument because you spent more time going on the attack rather than having actual criticisms.

Yeah, and where are the introduction pages for every member of Hal’s family? And Hal, and what a Green Lantern is and what are the other superheroes he’s talking about.

>buildup bad u need no tease just eat shit goy it tastes good
Proving my point.
>Morrison good, he not bad believe me
Nice argument

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You are literal idiots.
Characters that are important for the plot and are forgotten need an actual introduction.
Saying here this forgotten guy exists and does that is bad writing.
Why am I even arguing with shit eaters?

Morrisonfanatics are defensive and delusional, as always

And people wonder why comics are dying.

>Snyder:B-B-But my ultra violet corps!

>Grant:Laughs in radio static.

>Comic bad because Morrison bad
>Must call everyone I hate Morrisonfag

It's pretty obvious you're the same person who keeps doing this.

You're insane

You're just outing yourself as a guy who doesn't read comics lmao. Should Adam Strange have a issue of build up everytime he's used. rofl.

Grant is a hero.

Probably because of people like and

I'm not arguing with you fool. I'm laughing at you because you've clearly never read Morrison before since if you did, you'd know what to expect.

And if you read him before, then you've encountered what you're complaining before since he does this shit all the time. Then this means you've jumped in here and read something you know you won't like. And that's fucking laughable too.

I don't care about your dumb argument. Comics are dying because they stopped producing something readable a long time ago.

kill every Morrisonfag

>Characters that are important for the plot and are forgotten need an actual introduction.
We did get an actual introductionDumbass casual can't even read a comic.

Nah, it’s cause of that guy

>I don't care about your dumb argument

Says the guy who went into the thread and responded to the post

See you in the next thread, maybe they'll get you upset sooner so that you can use your pet buzzwords like "Morrisonfag" faster.

Nah, it's because casuals only want shallow stories and refuse to do the deep dives into the back issues.

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or send them all to rehab.

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Responding to your own post to make a drug reference, I'm surprised it took you that long.

Learn to read.
You too
You three
>u don't suck Morrison cock therefore u never read Morrison
FYI I just finished seven soldiers and while flawed it was great in comparison to his green lanterns.
>no u have to suck his dick even when he is shot, consume goy
That's not a good introduction, you retard.
If you had dignity you would ignore him and would answer my posts where there are actual argument. That you would ignore because you're a shit eater.

Keep eating shit

>buzzwords

Morrisonfags confirmed for reddit. Die.

>u don't suck Morrison cock
Hey, you finally made the Morrison cock reference, so it really is you since you managed to fit in "Morrison fag", "suck Morrison cock" and a drug reference again. Are you going to use the word "cult" too?

>FYI I just finished seven soldiers and while flawed it was great in comparison to his green lanterns.
Then why didn't you bitch about Greg Saunders, the Vigilante and his major starring role? He didn't get much introduction and he's pretty fucking critical to the story isn't he? He's just introduced out of the blue as this old western themed superhero dude hiring Z-list heroes to kill a giant spider right?

See you in the next thread, maybe we can get you to cry and use the word Morrisonfag, cult, drug, rehab, and saying fans sucking Morrison's cock a lot sooner, I know you're itching to repost all those all over again! Maybe next time while you're pretending you hate Morrison again, you'll also pretend you either hate or love Tomasi and Jurgens Superman like you do in those other threads, or switch sides and blame it on "Cassfag" or "Damianfag" or "Hackman" or "Tommy" or "Ladderbro" or whoever.

I haven’t been excited for an annual in a long time

The most autistic fan base of any writer by far

Oh yeah, I forgot that you also like using the word autist, too.

oh thank fuck it wasn't that teen lantern bullshit

Kek.

Holy shit. Is Hal's family always this dysfunctional?

That part about Uncle hal’s ghost, what could it possibly be forshadowinf?

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The guy reeing about Morrison is merely pretending, right?

He might be a z-lister/literal who but it's nice that he's alive again

See! See! This is what we're gonna get when they install 5G! I've tried warning you!

It might be news to you, but not everyone think Morrison is the greatest writer in the world and can do no wrong.

Did you also complain like this when Xeen Arrow and AU Abin Sur showed up?

Luckily, that doesn't apply to the guy in the thread who did his usual anti-Morrison act.

Whether I did or not, it's not relevant to me thinking that this issue wasn't good.

I was kinda hoping someone stole his kidney.

>He didn't get much introduction
The Whip actually introduces him very clearly and explains his backstory and relevance in the first three pages.
A better example would be Ultraa in Ultra Comics.

>The Jordan clan's family rivalries is stronger than a radio entity

See everyone keeps saying Grant is taking a fat shit on Snyder but...I can't help but feel like he's genuinely having fun with him. It's been like 20 issues since the Ultraviolet Corps was relevant. I could see Grant sitting down and going "Hey, what if something from Umbrax's silly invisible galaxy awoke to justice and became a space cop? I should write that character! He can help Hal Jordan fight space crime on earth!"

Isn’t that the alien who raced along with Wally West when they were running for the Cosmic Gamblers? The being from Radioland?

>See everyone keeps saying Grant is taking a fat shit on Snyder
He absolutely is. Snyder is the worst thing to happen to DC in a long fucking time.

Wasn't Airwave a hella older guy? Like member of the JSA even. What's he doing being even younger than Hal?

that was the first Air Wave, this is his son Hal Jordan, he's Hal's younger cousin

First Airwave was Larry, wasn't it? But I get it now, he's the 3rd Airwave. Didn't know that Hal had a kid.

Larry Jordan was the first Air Wave, Denny O'Neil introduced Larry's son Hal as Hal's cousin and said Larry was GL Hal's uncle

Bendis breh.

MORRISON BAD
READING COMICS BAD

Bendis doesn't defile entire cosmologies, he just has everyone talk like cast of Friends.

Hal is the uncle who always sits at the kids' table

Thanks for the story, user. Shame all the threads seem knee deep in trolls

Thanks for the storytime Lantern

Yeah, I noticed in the other storytime threads and was about to ask if something happened today.

He has written some really good stuff in the past, but lately, it doesn't seem like his heart is in it anymore. He's 60ish now. Maybe it's time to retire?

I won't say Grant is bad (he's really good when he's on the ball), but I feel like I've read so much of his work that I just can't care about how he shaves his head just so he can stick his head up his own ass that much farther to smell is own farts. I even tried reading his autobiography once... holy shit, Grant is legitimately more full of himself than Alan Moore, and Moore may actually believe he's a snake god in human form.

>knows nothing about dcu
>blame the writer

Oh, ok...

There was a Stephen King novel in the early 2000's about this. It might be where Morrison got the idea from.

That's what I thought too

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So what has been happening in the Green Lantern Mythos?
I genuinely havent kept up since Hal fused Simon and Jessica's Lanterns together.

This run doesn't expect you to know or care about any of that shit. All you need to know is that Hal Jordan is a space cop who loves pussy.

Yes, it is.

Hal's ring loves him very much and vice versa.

>Morrison bring back Zzyptzz
>Just when I got around reading the Human Race arc
Is this Hypercrisis?

Cool costume, but the thigh-high boots seems kinda gay. But then again he’s a Silver Age character.

There was a documentary based on it.
youtu.be/8ZcflWe6Fhc

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>Listening to Alan Moore talk on a podcast, not letting anyone else talk, slowly about a church and shit that doesn't matter for 30 minutes
really enlightening desu

>this thread
Yo, I have my problems with Morrison, but his GL has been fantastic so far. Just good old fashion done in one adventures.

It's like he finally stopped desperately chasing the Animal Man glory days and started writing normal stories again. Took him long enough.

I enjoyed the interview where Alan Moore very calmly and rationally described how he got drunk on his 40th birthday, proclaimed that he wanted to become a wizard and later accidentally summoned a fourth dimensional demon who was good at math.

You do this in every single Morrison thread recently my dude. The same shitty writing style, the same insults of calling everyone Morrisoncultists, the same kind of same fagging.

Find better material, man. You’re at the point of Ladderfag in terms of boredom.

youtu.be/SW6uWus1c4w

>Jack’s still dead
Aw man.

>I didn't say it was a girl
He's into dudes so the boots make sense

Or maybe he just thought Parallax Hal had good style

>This board is bad because writers don’t spoon feed my faggot ass
Your dumbass is part of the problem why Yea Forums‘s so shit.

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He almost defiled the concept of a crisis event, warped DC cosmic with his Donus Steel Krypton killing OC, and would do far more if anyone was stupid enough to put him in charge of it. Do not underestimate his stupidity.

Sonic the GL?

>Spiking the punch just for a prank
Wow Hal’s family really has huge assholes.

Green Lanterns did a bunch of stuff with Jessica and Baz and now Hal is of doing whatever Morrison wants him to.

The art would probably look better with different coloring. There are a lot of weird circles and highlights that should have been blended better or balanced out more.

When did Hal get so many neices and nephews?
I swear I only remember there being 2 before.

that's a funny way to spell Tom King

cousin Hal has been around since GL 100, Jason and Helen have both been around since the 90s or so, and I think Jane and Howie are Johns creations but I'm not totally sure

Have we seen Parallax Hal in DC continuity since his battle with Renegade Hal?
Maybe he will die and sort of go through the ghost phase regular Hal did (minus the Spectre stuff but maybe some lesser supernatural power).

Snyder, King and Bendis are a force of awful that has crawled out of the mud to ruin everything that DC stands for.

Yeah kinda weird Jacks dead but Jan isn't and the rich uncle

His names Hal Jr. That alone should tell you it's Airwave 2 because that's always a 'trivia' tidbit that Hal has a cousin also named Hal who is also a superhero.

Classic Hal

WAIT so this entire story was a fabrication made up by Hal and the kids to cover-up everyone getting drunk on spiked punch and arguing to high heaven?

Sick, but getting better. Thanks for asking.

Not everything, just the the part of how they fell unconscious.

Third panel can be used out of context.

Hal's fear of commitment saves the day again.

Dude, "Hey I'm Hal Jordan's cousin, I have lame powers but I wanna be a superhero."

Handled in a panel, tells the reader all they need to know, and moves on.

I do like how Helen "remembers" Hal as the Spectre. That Spectre run was amazing

Oh shit, when Morrison mapped out the multiverse, these guys and their planet were a singularity, existing only on the rim of the speedforce. Wonder how that will tie in

Anyone else notice the title on the book in the third panel where Krakkl is holding Hal's ring?
You got a Crisis book, Watchmen, 52, Multiversity and a Handbook.

>be me
>no knowledge of any of these characters going in
>completely understand the basics of these characters by reading the information provided in the comic
Can't all be capable of base level reading comprehension I guess

Hal's brother is a pirate?

How did Bendis the comic writer almost defiled the concept of a crisis event?

Meanwhile, Snyder has
>introduced an edgy dark multiverse and a million evil Batmen
>broke the Source Wall and created a retarded status quo
>created a secret OTHER Monitor who was the brother of the Monitor and Anti-Monitor
>made an ultra-powerful OC who's the mom of the Monitors

>I had awesome adventures with uncle Hal’s ghost
Is Helen remembering her pre-IC memories?

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Doug Jordan (aka Hip Jordan, cause he’s a hippie) is not Hal’s brother, he’s just a relative
He was

He was a villain from the original silver age Jordan family story

Can Grant Morrison please write Green Lantern for the rest of his life? Please?

he appeared in GL 71

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"Uncle Hal's Ghost"...did Morrison just explain away the Hal Jordan Spectre run? LOVE IT!

Seems like you as a Morrisonfan are incredibly paranoid, maybe stop racking lines and doing lsd all night

Morrison basically bamboozled Snyder's invisible spectrum by making every wavelength BUT Ultraviolet and Infrared into "Green" Lanterns

>It takes only a page to introduce someone long forgotten.
>here's Hal Jr., he's Hal's nephew, he has radio powers, and he wants to be a superhero
you mean like Morrison did?

So Sinestro is some kind of Green Lantern now?

"Now, I know what you're thinking. 'Will my cool new powers impress girls?' and the answer is yes!"
Don't ever change, Hal.

as far as I know, no. Yeah I was thinking something like that. Since Morrison only has 12 more issues I think we'll find out soon.

Oh fuck off. I basically know nothing of pre parallax Hal and had no idea who air wave was. And yet, since I'm not an autist, I just thought "uh i didnt know about him" and kept on reading. It's not that hard.

Best Lantern would've solved this problem in less than a minute.

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no, but Morrison basically made it so the "invisible spectrum" is now just two extra colors

Make it a double date with Oliver, he'll be supportive.

He already got jobbed a few issues ago. He's fine though.

>That obscene skintight outfit!
Stop undressing your cousin with your eyes. This is California, not Louisiana.

>boots are thigh-high
>boots are suddenly small

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Why couldn't they pick a better artist. It's so jarring to go from Sharp to this.

Doug Mahnke would've fucking killed with this script. The artist was even trying to evoke his style in a few places. Then again, you ask me, Mahnke's one of the best artists to work on Green Lantern in any context.

The real villain was a hipster with a shitty beard. Just like in real life.

>Let's put the dubious morality of our actions aside
China Mieville did a great interview awhile ago, where the person he was talking to asked about his opinion of Grant Morrison, and he said, "Like, the whole thing with The Invisibles - Chaos equals Good/Creative/Life-affirming, Order equals Bad/Deadening/Fascist etc. He's been making the same arguments since the mid-80s, and these days those ideas are pretty trite. And I'm not saying I disagree - clearly his scepticism towards power is something I'm very sympathetic to - I'm just saying that whether or not it's true, it's not exactly a radical claim. It's the kind of moral you find in Robin Williams films, so if you want to pitch yourself as a 'subversive' artist, then you might want to try to do something a bit more interesting with the ideas. Like in Zenith, when he was making many of the same claims (15 years ago!), he had a superb character who was fighting with the 'goodies', but who was a Conservative MP. Morrison wrote him brilliantly, and he was way the best character, because he undermined the readers' expectations."
That interview always stuck in my head, cause Mieville is right. For the most part, Morrison only writes characters he has natural sympathies for, that he can comfortably write for. Meanwhile, you have Mieville's excellent The City & The City, where the protagonist is someone Mieville would never personally agree with, but who essentially still saves millions of lives. And I think that, with The Green Lantern, Morrison is finding a lot of success writing a character that he'd find personally repellent, and I hope this trend continues.

But Order was depicted as being another side of the coin. Invisibles was about finding a way for both sides to win and realizing that Chaos was just as corruptible as Order.

Did they only read the first issue?

China Mieville is one of those writers who writes good books but also should never be allowed to talk about books in public.

It's less about the particulars of everything that Morrison writes, and more about the specific themes that he keeps repeating. Mieville even says that he's a fan, and he enjoys what Morrison does, but he needs to work harder at engaging with the reader by being more complex in terms of morality. Even his run on Batman was one of the least morally complicated runs on Batman aside from "Is it right to use children in a war on crime" plot in Batman Inc. Morrison likes his heroes to be completely good, and his villains to be completely bad, and that's fine for the most part, but he's a better writer than to give us morally straightforward stories over and over again.

I think it might be a colorist issue or he could've just been phoning it in. I enjoyed his stuff when he was doing Hellblazer and Spider-man.

That was a fun issue. Thanks for the storytime.

lmao

Mahnke is doing pretty bad in Detective Comics. He needs some good ink.

>Can Grant Morrison please write Green Lantern for the rest of his life? Please?
Is his run on GL any good?

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It's excellent
>Mahnke
>ever doing bad
Choose one. His work on the Spectre mini-arc was fantastic. We just need more space between us and that amazingly subpar Arkham Knight arc, that's all.

>Hal Jordan is a space cop who loves pussy
The younger, the better.

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Jesus. He looks like a human version of Goofy.

Even worse. He’s a hipster millennial.

I really wish to see Quitely do an annual of this run. The art could have been a lot better than this.

Mieville is an unironic antifa leftist commie bastard but he's skilled enough as a writer to put his personal biases aside for the sake of craft. Shame that the Iron Council sucks so hard though, the Scar is fucking aces.

>tfw no sequel to the Scar with UTHER FUCKING DOUL being a spectacular badass

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Yes on this post. I forgot what interview Grant gave, pretty sure it was a DC Universe mag, he said he never envisioned himself liking Hal but he's grow to admire his character traits.

No but he’ll make an appearance soon.

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Yeah, and Perpetua is such a fucking boring villain.

>created a secret OTHER Monitor who was the brother of the Monitor and Anti-Monitor
Is Snyder unaware that there were 52 Monitors? Am I taking crazy pills again? WHERE'S MY GODDAMNED MEDICINE

So there's another character called Hal Jordan? Weird.

Yay Helen is back!

A quick rundown
>Guy’s nowhere to be seen, probably killed in HiC and then later retcon because of the backlash.
>Jess is fucking about with Darkseid
>There’s multiple lanterns of the same species, negating the complaint that there’s too many Earth Lanterns.
>The Darkstars splintered, a small part forming the Blackstars led by Mu and the star vampires.
>Every spectrum of light beside the rainbow and Snyder’s bullshit has a GL.
>After going into his own ring, Hal now can talk to it like a partner all the time now.
>Those Z-lister space superheroes that only appeared in old stories? They’re all canon and have their own team protecting the universe.
And that’s about it.

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Is Helen still out?

What do you expect? Snyder is a fucking hack who only got famous by aping Morrison’s work. His entire Batman run is a rip-off. His Metal event is also a rip-off of Final Crisis.

Huh, you’re right. Really curious if Morrison will ignore the new Dial H book having the heroverse existing around the speed force.

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holy moly this art is trash

>Bendis doesn't defile entire cosmologies
>Dude the symbiote is actually a peaceful civilization man!
>Let’s have Venom in my GoTG team!
>Here’s this black girl that is smarter than Tomy Stark!
>Ragga Zoon destroying Krypton and and Kandor.
>Here’s this other black girl that can hack into the GL power battery!
>Butchering Amethyst and gem world.
>Let Jon be tortured by the Crime Syndicate for years and ruining Lois yet again.
>Do you know that there’s a super secret gang existing in Metropolis that even Superman don’t know about?
>My OC organization Leviathan (WHICH IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM THE ALREADY EXISTING LEAVIATHAN!), led by Leviathan, destroyed all other DC’s secret organizations! Aren’t they scary?!?!
He’s a piece of shit that ruins everything he touches.

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>Is Snyder unaware that there were 52 Monitors? Am I taking crazy pills again? WHERE'S MY GODDAMNED MEDICINE

There was only one prime monitor originally, alongside the Anti-monitor. Then when he died and much later the multiverse was recreated in 52 we got the 52 monitors.

Snyder's OC is meant to be the brother of that first monitor who was the opposite of the Anti-monitor (who also is another brother of the Monitor according to Snyder).

Calm down

...but all of the Monitors are siblings. All of the Monitors are siblings to each other, including the anti-monitor. Please stop fucking with my medicine. I'm begging you.

>...but all of the Monitors are siblings.
No, they aren't. In the original multiverse there was only one monitor and the anti-monitor as his opposite (and also Snyder's retconnned OC if you want to count that).

The 52 Monitors were born later completely separately from the original once the single post-Crisis universe split into 52 universes. These 52 Monitors could be considered brothers of each other, but they aren't brothers of the original Monitor or the Anti-Monitor.

Slip on the soap again, Hal?

Wait what? This is so damn confusing.

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Can’t wait for Moz to bring these dudes back as well.

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fuck I want this comic so bad

So Hal's family acted like assholes because of being possessed, or the punch?

>The closest place to Skyland
>Skyland's symbol is Zeus' lightning
>Zeus' lightning turns Billy into Captain Marvel
>The radio universe is closest to the catalyst of Captain Marvel
>Billy is a radio announcer

Morrison plays a deep as fuck game when it comes to lore.

they're Jordans, they've got plenty of issues without being drugged or possessed

>Worlds near the Skyland beam
>KWYZZ the Radio universe
>42 the Chibi universe
>11 the Female universe
>47 the FUNKY SIXTIES universe

47 is a world of comfortable nostalgia, as is Kwyzz. Krackle was Wally's imaginary friend when he was a kid. 42 is a similarly a "comfort" world filled with cute chibi characters.

I'm not sure why 11 is there though.

You know, Morrison might have actually referenced that.

Snyder's problem with world building is that he's the type to add shit and expand the borders without actually detailing any of the countries. He only wants to do macro-worldbuilding and big cosmic bullshit without any of the small-scale details and cleverness that characterizes Morrison's world building.

Morrison will make Johnny Thunderbolt's genie a 5D imp because it fits and expands the lore. He makes the Rock of Eternity the center of the multiverse because again it fits. He puts the 4th World in the Sphere of the Gods because again it fits.

Snyder on the other hand makes an entire separate multiverse of OC donut steel Batmen and a big Dragon Ball looking dude that hammers out the universes and surprise things have always been like this really guys its just that no one's ever bothered to bring it up before.

Morrison works with establish lore, Snyder adds on his own bullshit like a cancer and pretends its always been that way.

11 is a different kind of "comfort universe" if you catch my meaning.

Most of the Jordan Family issues resolve around them busting eachothers balls. Mainly because they are all so old at this point with Hal and Jim being the youngest.

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Yeah Bendis is a hack but as long as he doesn't die of cancer or someone shoots him we are stuck with him

I want Grant Morrison to make DC Space Comics Weird Again

will the annual show up in the second trade?

Man whatever happened to Seth Fisher? I remember reading this and Vertigo Pop then never saw the guy doing anything after that.

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Mostly because the Jordans is somehow more dysfunctional than the Bat family.
Fucking this! Snyder’s garbage just doesn’t work with other people’s lore so he just randomly delete shit with no regards to cohesion as long as it’s SO RADICAL XD. Take the Courts of Owls for example, it just ruins anything that comes before it like the Black Gloves. Snyder just can’t accept that people can make better shit than his OCs so he finds every way to shill his creation so that what came before slowly get forgotten.

Yeah I really hate how writers are desperate to add something to the lore that they pretty much ruin it with their shitty OC, not to say original shit is bad but most writers who do it are so fucking awful

I really wish that those Hypercrisis threads came back. Those were the true definition of comfy.

To bad the latest ones are plagued by the same shitty troll and Ewingfags coming out from nowhere.

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Whenever Snyder adds something it feels unnatural and forced liked a tumor growing on an already functioning setting.

When Grant adds something it jives with everything else. Take how he treated the New Gods for Final Crisis. He took ideas that were already floating around--New Gods using Boom Tubes to become smaller to enter the universe, Darkseid having avatars, the New Gods being the equals of the other pantheons who have several different versions of themselves and exist outside main continuity (the Greek Gods were unaffected by the crisis and promoted Earth-2 Diana to goddesshood), and that was how he came up with the New Gods all having godhead supermodes.

If Snyder wrote Final Crisis, it wouldn't even be about Darkseidd. It would be about Dankcyde, Darksied's more powerful brother who Darkseid kept locked up in the Firepits of Apocalypse since time immemorial and never talked about because he was TOO SCARED TO.

He died falling off a balcony in Japan in 06.

>Darksied's more powerful brother who Darkseid kept locked up in the Firepits of Apocalypse since time immemorial and never talked about because he was TOO SCARED TO.
You jest but Snyder probably has that in his journal or something

Mahnke is mediocre on monthly books. His single issues on the other hand, are fucking great.

You know what Snyder could do instead of adding a bunch of powerful OCs to the lore?

Make hypertime jive with the multiverse.

And it wouldn't be a hard fix. Way back in the day, it was assumed that all the universes ran on the same "clock." Five minutes in one was five minutes in another. This was why when Earth-2 was introduced, it was mentioned that Jay Garrick and friends were still doing stuff since the 40's and why when Earth-S was introduced they used Suspendium to explain why the Marvel Family hadn't age since the 40's.

The orrery worlds are just worlds that share the same "hypertime line." And alternate hypertime worlds are different possibilities for those worlds inhabiting different hypertime lines.

Like Earth-5, Thunderworld, is the Captain Marvel world sharing the hypertime line of the multiverse. But running in parallel hypertime lines you have the Earth from Jeff Smith's Monster Society of Evil, the Earth from the Shazam live action show, the Earth from the Captain Marvel cartoon series, etc.

For Earth-18, the Cowboy Earth, hypertime lines include Batman: Grey and Blue, Justice Riders, and Superman: Nation Divided.

This can explain how for instance, The New Frontier Earth was able to access an entire set of worlds no one else in the orrery could.

Each multiverse is just a collection of universes all vibrating in the same temporal space, with different multiverses running 1 second faster or slower or what have you. Hypertime is what connects worlds not only across universes but across multiverses.

See? That's the kind of world building Snyder should be doing. Not Monitor Mommy and Apex Luthor.

So it would work sort of like how Earth-2A and the like did? Not bad.

He died literally right after issue four of that FF miniseries came out.
He went out on a bar balcony to celebrate and fell to his dead, leaving behind a toddler and widow

oh my god is that a Rick and Morty reference? Xd

What's the appeal of Hal Jordan really?

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But that wouldn’t give him the major shill by dumb plebs on YouTube. And also Snyder is known for having decent ideas but with terrible execution. Just look at the Wake for instance, the idea that humanity is actually the invading aliens was cool but his delivery was so slow and idiotic that it ruins the comic with the twist.

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My fucking god that’s fucking tragic. Why can’t they take shitheads like King, Liefeld or Bendis?

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>King
why?

Fun issue but kinda disappointing that Morrison didn’t tie whatever Mu is planning into the annual.

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>Mu's not dead
Aha! Called it!
You can't keep a good mastermind down!

>the major shill by dumb plebs
Youtubers actually like Snyder?

So this is going to be the final issue, right?

He's based and greenpilled

Of the first “season” yes. It’ll skip a month for the next one.
I suspected that he would be back when he said: “WE are controller Mu”. Before getting shot in the head by Adam Strange’s wife.

Pleb channels like Comicstorian, Comic Explained and Variant basically worship his ass during Nu-52 covering every thing in his Batman run.
He’s a piece of shit one trick pony.

I thought people liked Snyder and King. What happened?

>He's a piece of shit one trick pony
He's Snyder, expect instead of ancient secret darkness that's only now being mentioned by people in-universe its depression.

They both have an almost obsessive need to constantly cycle their one favorite plot.

They kept cycling their pet storlines until the wheels fell off.

Morrison has his favorite plot elements, but Animal Man is not Justice League is not Seven Soldiers. He's capable of range while Snyder and King simply aren't.

Remember when he almost died due to a bacterial flesh infection right when he’s about to write Supes? God I wish it did.

I am saddened how bad the state of Superman is now, Jesus Christ

Snyder's schtick so far has been THERES A BIGGER BAD while Kings schtick is DEPRESSION PTSD WHOA SO MATURE, there's nothing ever new while at least Morrison while he does do the same shit i.e nostalgia pandering(silver age shit)/Multiverse shit at least he tries something new with it every time

Why is Hal still alive in the current political climate? He is a toxic womanizer, cocky and brash. He even banged a jailbait once. Yet fans still adore him. What's his secret?

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King doesn't write the same shit either. Neither Vision, Omega men or Grayson was about PTSD or depression. You sound like the idiot who claimed Morrison writes the same stories because he follows the same themes.

So you are a king-fag, I get it

Who are you? Tomasi, Ewing or Johnsfag?

I like Murphy

>Johnsfag
To be fair, his run on GL was really popular.

Every minority GL they make to try and replace him are just boring.

Murphy’s really good when he’s only drawing. Chrononauts and Joe the Barbarian were some of my favorite comics.
But in terms of writing he’s way below even the likes of Snyder.
His run even with its popularity, really shrink the universe with everything always centered on the rainbow corps. Even cool shit like the Empire of Tears and the Spider Guild got tied with the Red Lanterns and not allowed to develop on their own.

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This is one of the worst stories I've read by Morrison. Seems that he just made this up on the fly.

He has a shit ton of good stories and runs.

>why is the unironic, unreconstructed masculine character popular
Gee I wonder why

>He has a shit ton of good stories and runs.
Like what? I am not trolling, just a newbie.

Do fans adore him? No seriously, Hal is the most cookie cutter GL of them all but someone at the top seems adamant that he remains THE Green Lantern.

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Because Hal has already been through four or five diversity replacement cycles and has outlasted them all. The original conception of a character (if you more or less consider gold and silver age gl as related in name only) is always the strongest.

K y s

Why?

I love Hal so much god I just want to guzzle his cum

When you are that much of a thin- skinned faggot that you get triggered when people watch a tv show you hate, you should be fucking euthanized.
You and that other tard that get dick-envy over a nigger.

>His Silver Age run is greatly entertaining
>His later runs in the 80s with iconic arcs like Hard Traveling Heroes or the small run with Priest was the thing that give him a dedicated fandom that were the HEATfags
>John’s GL, although controversial really pushed him into the limelight
Hell even his time as Paralax and the Spector was just as good.

You’re right. He doesn’t write the same shit. But he can only write the same kind of dialogues and story beats without ever changing it. The same robotic talking characters. The same contrived plot that put the character into depression most of it being projection from his own ego.
It works wonderfully with aliens and robots trying to find their relatable humanity but it just falls apart when approaching characters with nothing of the sorts like Batman or Mr Miracle.
When you have a fanatical fanbase by your side, you don’t have to care.

But Mr Miracle is an alien tho

Yeah Hal is the most popular.

What about Stewart or Rayner?

I'm sure his wife and adopted kids would have loved that he died.

Stewart is only popular among people who watched the TAS, Rayner even when he was headlining as GL still wasn't the most popular also he's more of a cookie cutter than Hal anyway.

Vision Whoa is me my wife is DEPRESSED. Mr Miracle, Whoa I'm DEPRESSED about DARKSEID AND HIGHFATHER, Batman has been 3 years of just IM BATMAN CAUSE IM DEPRESSED

And in Heroes in Crisis EVERYONE depressed, even the most optimistic and fun characters.

>He even banged a jailbait once.

Hey now, she aged herself up so she wasn't jailbait anymore. Hal was in the clear.

My problem is not even that, it’s the terrible mischaracterization And constant backtracking
>Booster being a stupid retard AGAIN (as if ruining him in his Bat book wasn’t enough)
>More editorial mandated Harley wank
>Ruin Kyle, turning him into a spic for no reason other than King hearing that he’s haft-Mexican once
>Wally killed them but actually it was an accident you guys!!!

Yeah, Arisia fell into the anime-loli pit. She looks young but is hundreds of years old.

Nah, she actually subconciously used her to ring to make herself grow up cause she wanted to get dicked that badly. Even Kilowog confirmed that she was biologically older back when he was the team medic instead of a drill instructor.

Officer you don't understand her planet has TWO MOONS
its a retcon

>beyond the beyond

Some kind of Beyond...er?

The retcon came after what Englehert did because she reverted back to her childlike demeanor after some trauma (I think the GL house collapsing on her) and didn't get normal again until late in Gerard Jones' run where she later moved in with Guy at his bar who treated her as a kid as well. The original was that she had her ring age her up. To make this sound less rapey/child grooming, it was changed to her planet having longer years than Earth in I want to say the Johns era when they were getting the Lost Lanterns back and Hal was describing his relationship with Arisia or vice versa. Can't remember completely.

Ye you don't have to explain it to me, I know lel. Yeah the retconwas during the lost lanterns when Hal finds Arisia being siphoned by Cyborg Supes. For all the shit Hal gets for banging Arisia, Kilowog who was married and shit wanted to fuck Loli Arisia lmao

I can't remember if he wanted to do that before or after Bolovax Vik got blown up a 2nd time by Sinestro. If it was after, you can just say it was his depression kicking in.

What weirds me out is that they could easily just explain it away like 13 is considered an adult for her species. Arisia is a fucking alien, we don't have to bend over backwards to make her conform to Earth norms. DC used to be such pussies back in the day.

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It was around the time the Guardians were having a space orgy with the Zamorans so 2nd I think. Doesnt matter Kilowog said he loved her for a long time now, heartbroken he went to the commies and built them power suits. What a guy that guy

I liked Marv Wolfman era GL as well as the Englehart run.

They DID do that. Their species age slower, by Earth years she was several decades old but by her species she was equal to a teen.

Marv Wolfman is probably my favorite GL writer after Gerard Jones. His time on there was pretty short, but he packed a lot of stuff in there and set up a lot of things for the rest of the DC Universe in the pages of it. He also brought back a lot of good characters like Dr. Polaris, Evil Star and Sonar and got Hal's personal life out of the shitter at least until the Crisis.

we need a recommended reading list for GL
a new one

That arc where Hals ring gets stolen by Polaris and hes forced to survive in the artic while half blind and injured as fuck is comickino

>we need a recommended reading list for GL
There was an old one?

ya but it's just Johns run until blackest night

True kino.

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I actually liked Blackest Night, War of the Green Lanterns and Wrath of the First Lantern. Only shit I didnt like was the Third Army shit

I really want to get into the older GL stuff. I loved Johns run and Morrisons current run. I sadly don't know where to start for a GL fan that isn't interested in the silver age.

You can probably get away with starting at 76 which is when the GL/GA days start and it goes from goofy to mildly serious and Hal doesn't just create new elements out of thin air to defeat whatever is yellow. You'll miss out on some of Hal's various oddjobs like being an insurance investigator or a toy salesmen, but they'll get referenced in later stories.

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What are you crying about now little boy?

To be fair she is really hot.

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>faggots posting in a storytime before it's completed

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Bunch of pitiful babies

>all of Gerard Jones' issues have been delisted from Comixology
>All because he's a fucking pedophile.

They also canceled the collection of his run right after they released Part 1. You go to Amazon and the Vol 2 that was solicited is just stuck at releasing in 2035. One of the best GL runs for MULTIPLE characters will not be printed ever again because he's a pedo and it sucks.

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It also means that any attempts at collecting JLI/E going forward are going to hit problems.
Hell, that big omnibus they did a few years ago (vol 1) ended a little before he came on to JLE, so now any continuation of that (even in omni form) is fucked.
They did collect a bit of his stuff after that GL vol 1 trade was released and GL vol 2 was cancelled. They collected some pre-zero hour or so issues of the Justice League family of books, but didn't include his name on the cover credits. They instead focused on Waid and the other writers of those books.

Idk why people are incapable of separating the art from the artist

Remember the Bat-Penis? Pam Lifford doesn't want any "DC gives royalty cheques to a convicted pedophile" news headlines

Damn the art and the coloring didn't do any help

to be fair the story is fun

What's up with pedo styff in GL comics? It's like homoerotism in Batman comics.

Ironically, Jones the actual pedo was more concerned with getting Hal and Carol back together than having Arisia with Hal.

>Wake up.
I had to and I don't know why

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That's a record defeat for the books.

Shoulda known MS-13 were a bunch of bad hombres

So what was real in this issue?