The Boys

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>casting a Jewish woman as Stormfromt

Hmmmm

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Yes. But the ending of Season 1 completely ruins the character of Butcher. By having that stupid fucking twist, it completely changes the dynamic between Butcher and Homelander, but also ruins Butcher’s purpose. He is a fucking bulldog. He wants to kill all supes because his what happened to his wife. It clarifies why he does sick things like bashes a former supes head into a bathroom sink when he has a kid.

Someone ask him to come over to Yea Forums. He's gonna have a much better time here.

I’m not convinced OP isn’t him lol

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is the humble bundle collection worth it?

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Deep did nothing wronh

>hot Nazi superheroine
YES

but the show is terrible at that, the Boys have only won through sheer luck or relying on the Female.

also it ruins MM's whole character if he ain't got any powers

And his name makes no sense, why the fuck would a normal guy call himself Mother's Milk?

the shows pretty different so the 'origin' may be different but mothers milk in the comics is called mothers milk because (its been a while so i might miss some details) he had an obsession with his mothers breast milk, in the most basic terms. [spoiler/}

No, it's because he literally needs his mother's breast milk to live. this is due to his mom getting infected with Compound V at the factory she worked at, which was contaminated due to Vought not giving a shit. It's why his dad went after them so hard in lawsuits, why his brother was born retarded and ultimately died, and why he joined the Boys.

With him being normal, you lose all of that.

>paying for digital comics
user, I don't know whether to be elated or worried, to be the one to tell you this... they're all readily available, for free. just google whatever you want.

thanks, i knew i was missing something big. thats all i remembered, again its been a while since i read the comic.

user just go to readcomiconline and have adblock on you tard

But Compound V slows aging...

Did he even read the comics?

Most of the time was The Boys beating the shit out of everyone on their level or below because they had no combat experience compared to The Boys. The actual supers were all puzzle fights or killed each other.

The rest was just the boys running investigations.

>ruining Butcher's ultimate plan to turn the boys into Prep-time Batmen

ugh

Lol all those downvotes. Fuck reddit

I mean the concept of regular people fighting superpowered people is interesting, why not explore that a bit? May not be like the comics but whatever

I can think of no finer way to stick it to neoNazis.

When one of these guys that work in comic related stuff say that "they grew up reading those same comics", you just know they are lying.

I read the comics but didn't check out the show yet. Sounds like it's very different.

Sucks how it ended withButcher murdering all The Boys except for Huey. I also can't believe Black Noir was just an evil-er clone of Homelander. I wish they wouldn't have killed off so many characters, because seeing what they'd do after the fact would've been fun, for example the jaded Queen Maeve.

Did they adapt the hero killing a guy because he was gay and in love with him? Herogasm with the massive hero and prostitute orgy?

>removing Compound V from The Boys
>"we don't need super powers"
Did this motherfucker even read the comics?

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>not just an hour of hardcore porn
Damn it they are ruining all the sex scenes, if they skip kinky starlight blowing hughie I give up on this show.

No Compound V? There goes the whole plotline that the supers are almost 100% product to be made a marketed. Do people just randomly get powers in the TV version?

There also goes the X-Men analogy story with the child kidnapping and essentially forcing them the kids to be supers.

What is the deal with Mothermilk in the TV version then?

Wait. Are Frenchie and the Female explicitly romantic in the show?

If they're the proletariat taking it the bourgeois, then why are the only fights they win involve using the female, who is suped up, to drop them? Translucent barely counts

They aren't there yet in the story, but probably won't because it would have too much public outcry. Instead we got super religious people doing their bullshit instead

I thought she was younger and like a teenager in the comics. He was definitely more her guardian there. Guess they needed romance from somewhere so I guess she may have been aged up. And also they didn't want an underage character in such a series when it's being produced by amazon.

The Female was like 12 years old and Frenchie looked yearly 40s.

>stillwell disappears and the seven are the main antagonists
how can someone miss the point of that comic so fucking hard

that problem is going to continue throughout the show, as it is the Boys only exist through Homelander not giving quite enough of a shit about them

the boys were never on an even playing field with the big time supes in the first place, did you even read the comic ? It was pretty much agreed upon that the second they gave them any reason to, the seven would vaporize them. The point isn't lessened by them taking compound V, it just feels less retarded when they don't die instantly from being punched by fucking superman

They literally share a romantic moment right before dying. It was pretty subdued, but there was always something romantic between them in the source material.

Yeah. Like the Female is The Boys powerhouse, but she got curbstomped by Stormfront in the comics, and he's not even one of The Seven.

that could be interesting, but the Female still has her powers, and they just use her in all the fights. The rest are just useless for fighting anyone above the invisible guy with really hard skin.

Maybe they don't want Butcher to go full villain in the show and wanna kill everyone who has compound V in them?

>He was definitely more her guardian there.
It didn't feel explicitly romantic but guardianship is too narrow a definition.

They were honestly more like quasi soul mates. Not anything too romantic leaning until Frenchie told her that he always loved her.

Ironic since in the show he sounds much more like a giant asshole than he did in the early comics

that gets rid of a essential aspect of Butcher's character, though.

But given the thing with his wife in the show, it's already gone to shit, so who knows

is the scottish bitch boy a bit more tolerable in the show ? Goddamn he was so wishy washy and petty in the comics it drove me nuts

They are planning Herogasm for a third season.

in a way, it's worse. he ends up saving A-Train from a heart attack

>like the show
>except Madelyn's a complete chickenshit bitch in comparison to James, has none of the intimidation factor or Big Bad status of the original; visibly disgusted by Translucent's skin and uneased by some rando faggot from Baltimore and dies at the end in what's basically the antithesis of the "please kill me" scene

Man fuck this

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>he ends up saving A-Train from a heart attack

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now my morbid curiosity is piqued, I will need to find a way to download this

What did they do to change her story?

>turned an established character into a girl
>make her worse in every single aspect
>took a dyke, made her straight, and took a straight and made her a dyke
>turned a man black and another white

I'm not sure what the writers are going for here with these changes

At the end of the season, Homelander finds out that she's alive and had his kid, and was raising him with Vought money. He takes Butcher to meet her and the kid.

???
what happened to butcher seeing her die and killing the child himself

She's alive and raised Homelander's bastard in secret. S1 ends with Homelander taking Butcher there after having only just learned himself. So Butcher's probably going to be a broken mess

now she just disapeared. He thinks she got raped and killed, but turns out she just took and NDA and fucked off without telling him.

now I don't know about you, but I really don't think Butcher can come back from this. Unless season 2 opens with something fantastic, his character is dead in the water.

Who got color swapped and orientation swapped. The only lesbian I remember was Popclaw or whatever her name was that cut herself.

He’s already killed a fucking baby with a bomb for no reason in the show

Popclaw is in the show, and is dating A-Train, who is black. The Deep is white now.

jesus christ who writes this shit

So what the fuck are they doing?

So she willing did it? There was no rape?

That sounds like Butcher should be more angry at women than supers.

You need to take your fanboy glasses off and realize that when you're doing an adaptation, you don't have to just copy and paste everything panel to panel in order to do a enjoyable series. And in the case of the Boys, which is super hyperbolic and juvenile a lot of the time, and loves taking a piss on capes, much to the detriment of the tone, it's more than fair to take liberties when transferring it to a live action television series in order to maintain a tone that is consistent and doesn't just become off putting to most people.

Who's the lesbian now if Popclaw isn't?

Somehow the changes to The Deep seem the worst to me. The race swap didn't make sense when they still only have the one token black character and I really liked that The Deep was somehow self aware and the least terrible person in the seven aside from Starlight, yet all we got were shitty Aquaman jokes.

Yah, but his psychotic hate of supes makes more sense when he sees his wife die before him and has to kill the super rape baby because it has no control over it's powers.

It's taking a few too many liberties. It's turning gay characters straight, changing genders and races of characters, and changing entire origin stories.

You get to a point where you are just tacking a name onto something. Look at what happened to the Wanted movie.

>tone
the boys was always kind of a dark comedy, the juvenile humor was part of the tone. It didn't suffer from it unless you kind of missed the point
And while I don't expect an adaptation to be a 1:1 copy, I still expect it to touch on the same themes in the same manner, and not just take the brand, names and the pitch and go in a completely different direction because your producer didn't have the balls to fund a new IP and you needed a recognizable name to sell your product

That issue still gets me sometimes.

Maybe they're going with a direction where Butcher simply has seen and dealt with too much bad capeshit that he no longer cares about his original motivation, and hating superhumans becomes its own self-fueling hatred of them in general. In a way that makes Butcher all the more of a monster in the end.

There's no lesbian IIRC. There is Maeve who is bi, her exes include a woman and Homelander.

Sure, it can go too far sometimes. But from what I've heard, they're keeping way more in line with the general concept of the Boys and people are being autistic about the details. It's not like this is Preacher season one where they spend way too much time on pointless original shit that didn't really appeal to any of the comics fans who wanted the road trip, not stick in hicksville where Jesse slowly ends up fucking up massively.

>too many liberties
If it's still a functional story then who cares.
The significant "liberties" are major changes like the Boys not being powered and the situation with Butcher's wife, not whether X character likes to suck dick off screen.

>implying

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>If it's still a functional story then who cares.

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Maeve

To be fair the original story didn't make a whole lot of thematic sense either, like the whole business with Homelander's alter ego was really stupid and pointless

It would be foolish to assume that the original version of any given story must surely be the best possible version, and that any deviations from it must therefore be bad. While many adaptations certainly butcher their source material it doesn't mean that all conceivable changes to the source material must be bad.

The powers that be thought Homelander was too dangerous and made Black Noir (his clone) to kill him if he got too out of control. However, Black Noir exceeded his programming and committed heinous crimes while pretending to be Homelander in order to drive the real Homelander insane so he'd have an excuse to kill him. When he found out he'd been tricked into becoming a true psycho Homelander's response was "YOU FUCKED MY LIFE!"

I find it fascinating how so many people seem to be taking the Boys so super seriously, when to me it was just far too juvenile and comedic to ever consider that changing details in an adaptation would result such scrutiny. Sure, it occasionally had good dramatic moments, either heartwarming or just tragic, but it was hardly the book where changes in general somehow undermine the story.

Sure, changing Butcher's origin is weird, but I personally think the twist might give you an interesting new angle on the characters.

After decades of comic book adaptions deviating from the source material, it's weird to see people still freak out about it.

So wait. It's implied that the Frenchie and Female survived?

I have to admit. The series did the fucked up superheroes concept actually better than Ennis did. Homelander is creepy in a way that his comic version is not.

The gave Homelander a god complex. Honestly all of Homelanders crazy bullshit in the comic comes from the reveal later on that he had black outs in his memory and images, that were actually Black Noir, that showed him committing terrible acts. I do agree that Homelander in the show is more engaging.

Honestly, it makes it something you expect to an extent, but doesn't make it any less weird to deal with.

this dude didnt read the comic.

That's also down to Anthony Starr being fantastic

Compound V is still how they make supes, just none of The Boys are taking it.

No, more kinship for being treated like animals. Female is like in her early teens and Frenchie is late thirties or early forties.

No, she definitely looked raped coming out of the office.

So, is this just gonna stay edgy grimdark nonsense? It's not even particularly fun grimdark nonsense.
Dunno since I haven't read the comics it's based on.

>puzzle fights
I mean, you say that, but the only time the boys ever outwitted Supers was when Butcher set the shapeshifter on fire, and maybe when he threw glass into Stormfront's eyes. Every other time the plan was 'I'll hit them with a baseball bat.' Even the big final fight against Homelander came down to 'I'll hit him with a crowbar, and then shoot at him.'

We haven't gotten to that point yet, though Female has a healing factor now, came back from the dead after getting shanked multiple times by Black Noir

OY VEY

Well, I mean Hitler was a jew too. It would make sense for the actual super powered ubermench to be one too.

>Look at what happened to the Wanted movie.
it became something vastly superior to its namesake?

so the tranny fucker is named TRANSlucent?

wasn't it implied that Frenchie and Female survived at the end with the balloons? it made sense for Butcher and MM to die at least, their arcs were over and in some ways they'd probably welcome death

He was a voyeur more then anything. Makes sense for a dude that needs to walk around nude to be invisible.

why the fuck did they make hughie a yank? highland laddie was comfy as hell with det and bobby, and being a rural scottish lad was a focal point of a lot of hughie's character. could they just not be fucked to find an actor who could do a decent glasgow accent?

Because they didn't want to have to hard sub the show, Butcher is already damn near incomprehensible.

Because Americans can't handle a non-American star. Why do you think they remake British TV so much?

Eric Kripke
formerly Chuck

Damn. And here I thought Kripke was gonna get it and just Rogen was gonna fuck it up.

If you're going into The Boys thinking about realism and not having supes punching supes, you're doing it wrong. It is a fantasy supehero world jo matter what. It is as real as you make it.

The comic was still quite realistic. Still too realistic almost, as it hurt at how corrupt the world was even with all these superpowers. Giving the Boys powers didn't mean they would win. They still stood a damn good chance of bei g wiped out pretty fast.

Also, yeah. Totally missing how Compound V ties nto the meta narrative about superheros as consumer product.

Why the flying fuck can no one straight up adapt comics? Even in long form which shoudl match comics better, they need to have a whole staff of writers inject their own stupid ideas. Is Hollywood just that egotistical and corrupt?

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that really was a clever way of warding them out of the fanbase.

Comics do the same things to comics.
How many times have we had a re-spin of Superman and his parents story on doomed Krypton?

Adaptations always change stuff, dumbass. It's the nature of the beast. What works as a comic does not necessarily work as a movie.

>Is Hollywood just that egotistical and corrupt?
Yes and more

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Did they seriously just use Never Gonna Give You Up

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Why do you want a panel for panel adaption of a comic? Do you simply not like this medium and want to see it adapted into a medium you like?

I'm guessing Stormfront isn't going to get the shit kicked out of?

>Do you simply not like this medium and want to see it adapted into a medium you like?

I'm not that guy, but I just personally believe that if something isn't broke, trying to "fix" it WILL break it.

It annoys me that no one asked if they are planning to use the same Black Noir twist. And if they are, have we seen him out of costume yet? Because to me, it seems like they have abandoned that idea. Like when Homelander shot down that plane, I thought, "ah, this is Madelyn telling *him* to do it", but no, she had no idea Homelander was going to do that.

Yeah, same with Homelander having sex with Butcher's wife.
I kept waiting for him to go "I don't even remember doing that..." or something, but so far he seems to have done every evil thing we've seen so far.

I have a feeling that Black Noir is literally just some guy

Well, they might still make him a clone for some further shenanigans ("Homelander" suddenly appears and does something odd; real Homelander is confused and fears he's losing it), or perhaps he'll be some kind of failsafe for when/if Homelander goes nuts.
I think the writers are just keeping him around for now. He can work as a mysterious member that we never hear about and then they can suddenly decide to use him for whatever they want.

>if something isn't broke

Who says it's broken? It's also possible to improve and stramline things so they work better as a TV series.

because it's "their" version of the show, it's just basically a really lazy way to make a mark on something.

I want normies to experience it.

I doubt it, I mean Female gave Black Noir a run for his money in their confrontation. So he's clearly not as powerful or durable as Homelander.
Plus he seems like such a good boy compared to his more creepster comic version.

On one hand I think it's fair that they turned supes into actual characters rather than complete one dimensional assholes. But on the other hand that really goes against the basic premise of the comic book and it ends up affecting the whole plot.
Also it seems like The Boys suffered and became pretty one dimensional too. I mean MM has absolutely no reason to be in it at this point.

The Supes are by far the best part of the show as it is right now, hopefully they can get The Boys on the right track with the second season.

There are a lot of drones in this thread that cannot give an actual answer for why a proper live-action adaptation should be done besides "because". Zoomies are fucking pathetic.

Because no one would fucking watch it. Autists like you would just sperg out because an actor didn't deliver a line exactly how you imagine it should sound or some retarded, subject bullcrap like that and normies couldn't stand the full blown force of Ennis' edgelord writing.

wasn't sin city pretty close to a panel panel adaption

The only really egregious changes was the complete assassination of Butcher's backstory, and from what I've heard, the softening of Female's uber-autismo hitman personality.

I'm okay with changing some stuff, it's an adaptation after all BUT they changed too much, and it's just The Boys in name only, still havent finished the first season and probably never will, it just feels like a big "fuck you" to someone who enjoyed the comics

I wanted something romantic to be between them while I was reading the comic and I still didn't see anything that couldn't be explained away as deep friendship.

it was done years ago

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>vastly superior
that's a funny way of saying socially acceptable and boring

Why do people think this? I saw the balloons in the last issue, but how does that negate what looks like a pretty clear cut death?

>missing the obvious hint that Gus Fring is the new villain in season 2

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I feel like their is a comic similar to this series about Superhero's being complete fuck ups.
Anyone know which it is it has to do with the children of the golden age of heroes who got their powers from some mysterious island and the kids are all fucking retarded fucks.

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>tfw you're writing a superhero novel and now that this show is popular normies are going to compare it to The Boys
Why did this have to happen now

Fans of edgy superhero shit (which are more likely to read your novel than normies) would have made the comparison regardless. Just focus on executing it to the best of your ability and make sure that it has enough in it that's substantially different from stuff like The Boys or Wanted.

What’s the novel about? Give w brief plot synopsis

Reminder that with the pregnancy plot about Butcher and Homelander and Butcher's wife, plus Starlight and Hugh fucking and her now getting nausea, she may well be pregnant. A parallel story, what Butcher ultimately went to versus Hugh not making the same mistakes.

Seems a lot like a different house, but with the same paint job. It could still be a good story, but we'll have to wait till the end to see if it ends up being as good as the source material.

>The only really egregious changes was the complete assassination of Butcher's backstory
They fucked up Stillwell pretty fiercely and he was a fantastic antagonist even out of comic standards

>security footage shows her willingly walking into a room with Homelander alone
>3 hours pass and she's seen coming generally decently composed and slipping her heels back on
>Homelander tells Butcher she was a wild fuck and orgasmed 3 times
Dude, I'm pretty sure she wasn't raped.

Got to agree, that looked like regular old post office sex dishevelment, not raped by a super powered maniac. It would have been much better for the story if it was raped, but it looks like another cuck fetish thing now.

They're definitely gonna go that angle - Butcher will be reduced to nothing but an angry, abusive, ex.

Also, she never told Butcher of the "rape." She just flat out dissapeared days after the incident as far as he knows, and he only found out about it when Mallory recruited him to take on supes and plays the video.
She looked like she was living a normal life at the end of the season, implying freedom and autonomy. There hasn't been any evidence that Vought forced her to sign the NDA and relocate. All evidence is suggesting she cheated on Butcher, and willingly was hidden and paid off by Vought. Kinda really destroys Butcher's motivations if Vought and the Seven were just morally shitty, but never acted with malice towards his family, and it was all just his wife not giving a shit about how her actions would effect him.

All this talk of The Boys over the last few days and how disappointing it was just makes me wish some based user would storytime it again.

They also might've just wanted Jack Quaid specifically in the role.

Because it was so distinctly Frenchie and Female.

I agree that it feels like grabbing at straws but it's the way it was included for no obvious reason and the tone of their storyline.

There's half the fan theories shot down/sprayed with Raid.

Can anyone turn this into homelander

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>does he still fuck on command
>the dog
what is this show and how do i block it on my tv

Beastiality is one of the less degenerate things in the comics (and that's a good thing)

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He's a dirty blonde

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The first three episodes were fucking fantastic, but after that it really fell off. The finale was also very underwhelming.

>. He was definitely more her guardian there
Guardian, yes but there was always an undertone of romantic love between them that was never acted upon.

It wasn't subtle just not brought up that often.

This guy has the right idea. Compound V was always a huge fucking copout, a magical potion that just zaps away the single biggest problem of the main characters - that of HOW you kill a superhuman. It always felt like Ennis didn't have any good ideas of how to get it done, so he basically just gave the main cast powers anyway and said it's okay because they're temporary.

The problem with leaving those scenes in is that because it's rarely seen in movies, we're trained to think they are somehow plot significant when left in.

This. As someone who never read the comics (going through them now though) I thought most of the series was about normal vigilantes putting heroes in check and killing the evil psychotic ones in a Fist of the Northstar kind of tone. Butcher's line of "spanking the supes" made me very hype. But it was only like that for a few episodes.

Also I thought most of the acting outside of the Boys and Homelander was week and made scenes hard to sit through because of boredom

Yeah I'm on this train

>She looked like she was living a normal life at the end of the season, implying freedom and autonomy.

That's a lot of presumptions.