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>once again, get fucked
>you fucking faggot
Context? I don't think anyone was surprised by any of this. Most of it was already knew or well guessed.

That would have made Peggy middle-aged in that scene, so no. '50s at latest.

He let them use his likeness but won't actually appear in it.

I suppose Hulk used the Gauntlet to make sure everyone wha was at risk get brough back in safe place and saved his mind from moving anyone who wasn't in danger.

My real issue is that he didn't try to bring back everyone who was dead-dead too, not just Natasha.

It's common courtesy to post the content here instead of just a link to drive clicks.

Ah, okay then.

>>Not showing where Gamora went was left intentionally vague.
Talking about Gamora, who was sacrificed to the Soul Stone and brought back through Time Stone-enabled time travel
>>At the end they explain that even the stones cannot return someone who was sacrificed to the Soul Stone, meaning that Nat’s death is permanent.
This crock of shit is literally the next bullet point, hilarious.

Oh, so OP was insulting an user from an other thread who didn't do it?

>even the stones cannot return someone who was sacrificed to the Soul Stone
You absolute tosser, the Gamora in Endgame is from an alternate timeline.

>In Wakanda they made some kind of compromise, and Smart Hulk rips out of the armor and defeats Cull Obsidian. It was changed during the editing process of Infinity War, after test audiences wouldn’t accept it and after the filming of Endgame.
WTF, it could have been a kino moment. Fucking shit taste with the test audience.

Not the same Gamora. She is a time clones with different memories.

No, OP is the one who posted the link.

>This crock of shit
How is this shit? It's clearly established.

no I was insulting the OP who didn't bother doing it

>Implying there's any difference

>>When talking about the Portals scene they all talk about how Alan Silvestri’s score should be considered for some awards, such as an Oscar.
the music was the worst thing in the movie, obviously the last thing for an Oscar

Oh, I thought OP made the OP and then posted the info in a new post.

I hadn't get OP and second poster where two different people.

>My real issue is that he didn't try to bring back everyone who was dead-dead too, not just Natasha.
Was there anything to say that he didn't also bring back everyone that died as an indirect, immediate result of the snap?

>had to get real quantum physicists
>everyone is still confused
hm....

There is. None of the character development she got during GoG 1&2, which was pretty crucial.

ok, so bring over a natasha from an alternate timeline as well. wow hard.

It's never addressed.
Man, everything was cleared out the moment they told it created parallel realities.

>from an alternate timeline as well. wow hard.
That means kidnapping her from an other realities where her friends still have her.

and now we all realize how shit it is using time as a plot gimmick.

No we don't. you are just the one who can't figure out a simple point.

>The open door of Peggy’s house means the scene takes place minutes after Cap returned to her front door.
i thought that that was obvious. it was subtle but you could still tell. and the cars driving by on the street, it's still the 40s, probably right after the war

he knocks, she's stunned that he's alive, they just go in and have their dance and kiss. absolute kino

you are absolutely retarded if you're saying 'they can use this gimmick to bring back this character but can't use the same all powerful gimmick to bring back another character'.

>It's never addressed.
I think it's safe to assume, then, that it was an obvious addition to the Hulksnap, given that he wasn't a fucking moron and it's literally one of the first questions most people have about the situation.

>I think it's safe to assume
No, he didn't. Because otherwise, Vision would be back alive. and Loki too. He only brought back the dusted.

>all the red in her ledger
Will this meme ever die

I am not retarded, you are the one unable to understnad a basic point. Gamora has no reason to come back. Natasha, on the other hand, has her own team.

It did.

But their version of the character would still be dead

That's litterally every fiction with a multiverse ever. You're butthurt for no reason.

Hey OP next time try pasting the text, it's very easy.

>bring back this character
OG Gamora is still dead;

>Black Widow appears in a story set in the past.
>A Black Widow from an alternate timeline appears in the present.
>The Black Widow we followed for the past ten years returns from the Soul Stone.
How do you not understand the differences between these three things? Just because I can oversimplify each of those to "Black Widow returns!" doesn't mean they're all the same thing.

just travel back in time and say 'hey yo natasha? come to the future with us because you died to the soul stone in about 1 year'. 'don't worry we already tried it with gamora and everything turned out perfectly fine'. boom. problem solved.

>everyone

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right but the only universe that actually matters is the MCU because it's the one we're watching. the same way the universe gamora came from and reintroduced to ours is of no consequence now.

Vision and Loki weren't killed by the snap or as an immediate result of it. That's all the Hulksnap cared about. Bringing those two back would have been separate snaps. Vision can't survive without the stone in his head anyway, and I doubt the stones are able to make copies of themselves for special cases. I also doubt Loki was considered a priority revival either way, especially not by Hulk.

So you're creating a new timeline where the events of Endgame occur, only without Widow to go to Vormit Hawkeye sacrifices himself and his family returns without him being there. Class move on your part.

no shit dude, that's why i said

>>and now we all realize how shit it is using time as a plot gimmick.

Well, you are a moron
1. you created an alternate timeline where they are unable to make a sacrifice (even if Clint Jump on his own, there is no one else to take the stone, as there is no one else who actually love Clint), but you have Kidnapped a ANtasha who will want to return to her own timeline and to her own team because they need her help.

you have resolved nothing and made things worst.

nah dude, you can have hawkeye and natasha come back, just go to some random alternate universe and pluck her from that doomed one and reintroduce her to this one. they did it with gamora. because guess what? the universe where gamora came from to the current MCU is completely splintered because it has no gamora, no thanos, and all the interactions of those characters.

That doesn't even work. you need to sacrifice something you love. In that scenario, there is no one around to love Clint and so they never get the Soul Stone.

> Hail Hydra

>and pluck her from that doomed one and reintroduce her to this one. t
So, you have created a an alt-time lien where the Avengers never get the Soul stone and can never bring the dusted back. Congrat. also, you have kidnapped Natasha from her own Avengers familly. Great. you are really bad at this.

>they did it with gamora. because guess what? the universe where gamora came from to the current MCU is completely splintered because it has no gamora, no thanos, and all the interactions of those characters.
And so, in that timeline, the dusting never happens.

see the difference. And Gamora has no one to come back to,, so she doesn't need to.

>Man, everything was cleared out the moment they told it created parallel realities.
Mostly, but Cap's ending is still a little confusing. If he warped Back to the Future, why was he just sitting on a bench instead of appearing on the time travel pad where he left from? That makes it seem like he went to the past and waited it out, which doesn't make sense if he went to an alternate past.

They dont bring fans as test audience though. They bring boring asshats and see if they can make them entertained.

>. If he warped Back to the Future, why was he just sitting on a bench instead of appearing on the time travel pad where he left from?
he came back on his own. probably with the help the Dr. Pymm of his own timeline.

Hulk says he overshot his mark. He just landed earlier than intended and waited out there.

>They confirm that Natasha on Vormir is fighting to save her family, the Avengers, and not Cliff’s as many online believe
Oh, fuck off. You can't tell me she chose herself over Clint for just guilt. One of the kids is fucking named after her and you're telling me she didn't do it so that kid could come back to life and see his father again?

Mind you, Banner having to fight on his own was an interesting development.

But no matter how or when he came back, he should have come back on the platform, right?

>It’s confirmed that Thanos is able to destroy >Cap’s shield because while Vibranium is the strongest metal on Earth, whatever Thanos’ blade is made out of is stronger. It’s floated that Eitri made it for him.
The 1950's Sci-fi Logic.

nah dude, casually explain to her if she don't come with you, she's going to die and that this universe is almost identical aside from the fact that she's dead.

>>And so, in that timeline, the dusting never happens.

no, the exact issue with thanos doesn't happen, it doesn't mean that a similar scenario does not occur again due to the new circumstances. the fact remains, the possibility of picking people from the past and reintroducing them in the future is a possible concept in the MCU. this leaves the possibility that literally ANYBODY could be plucked from time and reintroduced. and this is why time travel is such a retarded plot gimmick.

>You can't tell me she chose herself over Clint for just guilt.
No, but it was clearly part of the equation. that her guilt helped her ascertain her choice make perfect choice. You can't really complain about that.

Not necessarily.

Not forcibly, if he had Pymm's help.

he retired from acting

They should have travelled to the point before haweye and Black widow arriving Vormir and gave Hawkeye the stone and asked him to tell other avengers Black widow is dead to motivate them .And bring her past self back. The reality without soul stone dont have thanos anyway.

Is it true that his weapon is a reference to the Thanoscopter?

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>casually explain to her if she don't come with you, she's going to die and that this universe is almost identical aside from the fact that she's dead.
1. That's still taking her away from her own Avengers and creating a timeline without her, so you have resolved nothing.
2. she won't accept that bullshit. And she won't let her own team of Avengers behind. especially if it create a a timesplit where undoing the dusting is impossible. She won't accept this. And the OG avengers woudln't pull that shit in the first place.

you are really dense about it.

>no, the exact issue with thanos doesn't happen, it doesn't mean that a similar scenario does not occur again due to the new circumstances.
It doesn't hppens because the Soul stone from that timeline is now forever absent has it has been taken to the OG timeline.

>the fact remains, the possibility of picking people from the past and reintroducing them in the future is a possible concept in the MCU.
The fact remains that it is kidnapping people from their now newly created timleine and away from their familly. it's not somethign the Avengers will do.

Yes. Starlin himself confirmed it.

seeas to why I asked that.

>this leaves the possibility that literally ANYBODY could be plucked from time and reintroduced. and this is why time travel is such a retarded plot gimmick.
The fact that you have been explained many times why it wouldn't work and you still are unable to understand is why you are clearly brain-damaged.

>casually explain to her if she don't come with you, she's going to die and that this universe is almost identical aside from the fact that she's dead.
And that she will be abandoning the Avengers from that newly formed timeline
And that without her death, the team she will leave behind will be unable to Bip people back.

im really getting the sense that your belief in time travel and alternate realities only makes sense to you. you fail to acknowledge that in a world where there is time travel and infinite possible realities, anything is possible. sure just go look for a alternate reality where the avengers get killed and Natasha is the last survivor, reintroduce her to this reality, yay err body happy. that's alternate realities and time travel buddy, enjoy.

What is the best line-up for a post-Endgame Avengers line-up given almost every original Avenger is either dead or permanently retired or off-world?

>im really getting the sense that your belief in time travel and alternate realities only makes sense to you. you fail to acknowledge that in a world where there is time travel and infinite possible realities, anything is possible. sure just go look for a alternate reality where the avengers get killed and Natasha is the last survivor
Not how it works. there is not infinite similar reality. it's time-travel that create new realities. there were no alt-universe up until the Avengers went back in time.

Captain America had to go back in time precisely when the stones where taken of to prevent the creation of new timeline. Hulk said it so.

ANY change creates a different timeline, and they made it clear with the returning of the stones/Mjolnir to the moment they were taken that they wanted to minimize time fuckery since no one can know the long term implications.

You also forget that it was THANOS who splintered his own timeline by bringing his ship through, not the avengers.

And the final and obvious point people have been telling you all thread. Even if they were willing to fracture timelines to bring another Natasha to our timeline what possible motivation for doing so do they have?

They are literally different people and none of them would have the same memories or connections to the group as ours and every character would forever know that she is only a "copy". Gamora was a cold, loner assassin before GotG so she has no reason to go back and even with her all the Quill/Nebula growth is gone now. But she's the one character besides Nebula where it might be interesting to see how she changes under new circumstances.

>>They say that the Robert Redford scene was his last day of acting.

that's pretty neat.

Don't be silly. Both of them were trying to throw themselves off the cliff, not each other, and in the end Widow did it by forcing Hawkeye to drop her.

That's perfectly reasonable, sunshine. "Strongest on Earth" does not necessarily equate "strongest in the Universe".

Robert Redford is literally filming for the new watchmen show right now

What a bunch of morons

But my weapon is more powerful than the powerful weapon you have.

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>T’Challa calling Clint’s name for the gauntlet is a call back to Civil War where Clint introduced himself, and T’Challa said he didn’t care.
obvious but kino none the less
>Smart Hulk rips out of the armor and defeats Cull Obsidian
still dumb we didnt get this

what is this from?
best girl wanda best bro sam and some other people

One of the inventory issues Duggan did for deadpool . It was time travel story in which deadpool,cable and Classic Nick fury teams up against time travelling Hitler.

i figured it was one of those but thanks anyway

It still require someone who love the sacrifice to be there.

I know they were trying to sacrifice themselves. It still doesn't change that without Natasha, there would be no soulstones.

read the thread you double retard

>In Wakanda they made some kind of compromise, and Smart Hulk rips out of the armor and defeats Cull Obsidian. It was changed during the editing process of Infinity War, after test audiences wouldn’t accept it and after the filming of Endgame. This explains why there were toys produced of Hulk bursting out of the armor and why the diner scene was part of the Endgame reshoots.
lmao fuck test audiences have they ever made a movie better even once?

Final Destination

What happened with that?

They added Battlefield as an option.

>2023 Cap swears a lot more because he’s been through a lot.
So regular Cap?

Movie originally ended with the girl defeating death by bringing new life into the world by having a kid. It's a shitty concept that ended up being used in the second movie.

>that ended up being used in the second movie.
And still didn't work anyway.

GoodFellas
>Scorsese and his longtime editor Thelma Schoonmaker went back to re-edit the final act with a series of quick jump cuts to move the narrative along faster. The jump cuts also managed to make the audience feel as though they were in the same manic, drug-induced state as the character on the big screen.
Sunset Boulevard
>Wilder shot another opening with Gillis’ lifeless body floating in a swimming pool while a voiceover recounted his murder.
License to Kill
>MGM changed the film’s title from License Revoked
Titanic
[At] its first test screening in Austin, Texas the audience gave it a standing ovation. Weinstein was so thrilled that he decided to skip the questionnaires and let Tarantino release the film as-is.
The Blair Witch Project
>The original cut ... was nearly twice as long. Dan Myrick, one of the movie's co-directors, told The Guerilla Filmmakers Handbook that they screened this cut in Orlando because they just didn't know what to do with all the footage. In an extremely lucky break, film producer Kevin J. Foxe was in the audience and not only did he agree to sign up to produce the movie, but he also told the directors to take out the entire middle part of the film.

>Cameron ended up cutting 45 minutes out of Titanic to make it a digestible 194 minutes
Cowardice like this is why you wound up losing to the Russos, James.

The writers and directors can't even be on the same fucking page about whether Steve is in a time loop or alternate reality and when people have asked Feige to put an end to the debate he won't answer.

The Russo's interpretation is the one that makes sense at the least but then what the fuck caused Markus and Mcfeely to be confused since they wrote the damn script and why isn't Feige just clearing things up?

Did they explain how Cap returned all the thoses? Weren't most of them encased somewhere?

They saved Lando.

He didnt return it. He said fuck it and went to peggy.

That bothered me. The Time and Soul stones are fine as is, but the Space, Mind, Power and Reality stones can't be returned as they are. He may have the Orb for the Power stone, but how the fuck did he make them back into the Tesseract, Scepter and Ether?

>They talk about another version where Thanos in his own time opening a portal to the battlefield and throwing 2012’s Cap’s head on the ground in front of the Avengers.

Wait, what?

He'd time traveled to 2012 during the Battle of New York, killed the Avengers, then gone to the present and given Cap his 2012's self's decapitated head.

Of course that head would belong to a different timeline created by Thanos by going there.

Wasn't that because the pregnant woman wouldn't have died in the disaster either way?
I suppose it doesn't truly matter since the rules change with every fucking movie. In the fifth one you could cheat death by killing people and stealing their lifespan.

Kek

>The writers and directors can't even be on the same fucking page
They are now. Parallele universe, Steve isn't on a timeloop, the writers were wrong.

>and when people have asked Feige to put an end to the debate he won't answer.
he did, the directors did, timetravel create new time-line.

>and why isn't Feige just clearing things up?
He did.

screenrant.com/avengers-endgame-mcu-future-questions-marvel-kevin-feige/
>for example, some people would have vanished while they were flying on a plane, and would potentially have reappeared in the open air at an altitude of over 30,000 feet. One questioner asked if it was possible the Hulk didn't just bring everyone back - but compensated for this, ensuring people were restored at a safe place. Feige seemed to like the idea. "We refer to the version of Hulk in Endgame as Smart Hulk," he observed. "So, yes."
>"So, yes."
So Feige confirm that for anyone who was dusted in the air or deemed to reappear in a dangerous situation, yes, Smart Hulk adjuted it for it.

>>They say that the Robert Redford scene was his last day of acting.

Not anymore DC WINS AGAIN BABY

411mania.com/movies/robert-redford-is-president-of-the-united-states-in-hbos-watchmen/

>While there have been conflicting reports, it’s unlikely that Redford will appear as himself. There’s currently no word on who, if anyone, will play him.
Read your own article. he has allowed his likeness.

youtube.com/watch?v=4vjs_0CoRs4

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