How would you improve it?
How would you improve it?
Don't let them speak
youtu.be
Not have Justin Roiland voice every fucking character in the series, and actually make it a good homage to Back to the Future instead of Wubba lubba dub dub
stop after the second season
>every character
Nigga what? He isnt Seth MacFarlane you dumb dunce. He doesnt voice everything
He's a better voice actor than Seth Green on Robot Chicken. I mean, I like the guy but he's pretty shit at it. His nerd voice is good tho.
Fire the female writers.
That's it.
Who cares? This show is shit even if he voiced Morty or Summer for all I care, retard.
Did women writers really screw up R&M? I've always thought it was Harmon's doing.
They did. All of them wrote the worst episodes, including the PICKLE RIIIIIICK one.
The worse for me was vindicators
That was actually not a bad episode. Meanwhile, in season 2, Get Schwifty was fucking atrocious and the absolute low-point of the series. Not a single episode in season 3 even came close to being as bad. Explain that.
1. Rick not only actually cares about his grandkids, but shows it
2. Morty doesn’t refer to grandfather by his first name
>2. Morty doesn’t refer to grandfather by his first name
That's a very strange fix. Ignoring that Morty calls him "Grandpa Rick" on occasion, why does that matter?
Make the incest canon.
Create a concrete connection to Gravity Falls
Someone gets it. Get Schwifty was the worst episode of the series by a WIDE margin.
He rarely ever says grampa. It’s usually just Rick
The people thinking a gf and r&m crossover is likely are retarded.
Disney wouldn’t allow it because of their family friendly brand, and Adult Swim wouldn’t allow because of their adult brand
Although there’s some overlap, the shows have mostly separate audiences
Stop making Rick into a borderline Mary Sue.
Make it more like Bushworld adventures. Rick being a sociopath feels natural there
People say it was the women but anyone who knows Dan and seen Harmontown can tell you that the divorce arc, the "You're not evil you're smart" and the season finale was all Dan.
Considering how Harmon himself has had a history of being over controlling to the point of getting fired multiple times for it I can easily imagine the writers are just there to write down whatever Dan tells them to write.
Seriously, just fucking fire all these retards and give the show to Cusack and his Aussie friends.
I don't see what difference calling him "Grandpa" over "Rick" makes.
fire dan harmon
The "Am I evil? Worse, you're smart" episode was the absolute worst and no one can convince me otherwise.
I wouldn't. That way, I get a great cartoon and I get to enjoy your sweet, sweet tears...
Maybe instead of Morty being another dweeb character he could be a good natured but dumb jock whose optimism could better play of Rick's pessimistic nihilism
rename it to Richard and Mortimer
Fire Harmen and the season 3 writers
Make them Australian
And the guy that taught you how to spell...
Actually show Summer's piss fetish rather than just mentioning it.
What word did I miss spell
Eh, that doesn't take away from the fact that the shows are definitely connected and in the same universe. Obviously a crossover will never happen, but having a concrete connection (i.e references to Ford and Rick's heavily implied friendship) would make the show at least a bit more interesting.
>Harmen
Force the writers room to read/watch more classic sci fi.
Have dialog workshopped more vigorously so that it feels more organic.
Make Harmon go to therapy and start seeing an escort so he doesn't fucking take his shit out on Justin and every woman he can find.
Shop for a better composer because the music is a shit.
Sorry I spelled the fags name wrong
I think its more the writers piss fetish than Summer's. Summer just pisses herself alot.
I'm a bit out of the loop; what did Harmon do wrong/why would he be fired?
he's just a terrible writer
He's a metoo lawsuit waiting to happen, he took out his emotional turmoil on the plot, he slowly gained more and more control of the writing and edged Justin out (who he definitely bullies), he's just kind of a creepy mean depressing alchie bastard who uses Rick as his personal Mary Sue insert.
isnt he autistic
Everybody's autistic, and it's a bad excuse for being a terrible person.
why does that matter? He's still a bad writer.
His first appearance was "Gonna blow up the world and start again, Morty!"; he figures out the multiple virtual realities in M. Night Shaym-Aliens, straight up beats the devil in Something Ricked and stops time completely in the season finale. All of this was in season 1, he has never not been ridiculously powerful and the closest he got to being defeated was a Morty.
Make a god damn Space Jam episode
You guys have seen Roiland's other work, right? Giving him free reign wouldn't be a good thing.
more incest!
lmao that one time everybody was drawing alien dinosaur stripper, that was twerking in the background, they should bring her back
He actually has a new show coming soon
He also spends 75% of any situation running away and in one episode flat-out didn't know how to solve the problem and just sorta goes "fuck it". Actually, several episodes has him not really know what to do and had Morty or Summer solve the issue.
I don't think anything like that even happens in season 3. Maybe the flashback episode I guess.
My workmates wouldnt shut yo about it so i gave ir a try.
Watched it backwards
S3 Made me laugh several times
S1 and S2 we're boring after S3
>Watched it backwards
Why?
Would it kill him to try a different art style for once?
Also, has anyone ever seen Pupa? That was a pretty good show.
HNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGG
Don't give a fuck about plot continuity. I treat them as stand alone episodes
He's continuing the CalArts tradition, don't worry.
Just doing the exact same weird thing with unpredictable plot twists they made in S1 instead some overarching plot or retarded drama.
Roiland sperging the voice acting is the best part of the show.
Seth Green was awesome as the Joker.
What's wrong with Roiland Style?
Is he from Cal Arts?
I would replace the entire main cast with dinosaurs that can't speak English. They would all still dress and act like the characters from the show, but they would be various species of anatomically correct dinosaurs. Yes, with feathers.
No but calarts.
cancel it before it gets even worse
Be honest, did you do it just to piss off your coworkers so that they'd say you watched it wrong, but it's too late to undo it?
Are you talking about his "style"? I think roilandtv is from the 2010, before the calarts meme, also his cartoons doesn't have bean face.
But they have bean mouth. We are moving into an age of more complex and "realistic" character designs as a way of rebelling against this overly-simplistic 2010's style. Maybe Roiland should experiment with other art styles.
I was watching this interview the other day with Fred Savage where he was saying that he was realizing all these old movies he used to love like Splash and Big were "problematic" when he tried to show them to his kids, so he just lets them watch Rick and Morty instead, and I was thinking, okay, if you find those movies sketchy to show to your kids wouldn't Rick and Morty be just as bad since it's all gorey and has all sorts of fucked up stuff? I think parents have this weird double standard where they want to protect their kids' innocence or something but then they don't pay any attention to cartoons because they figure, oh it's a cartoon, it's probably fine.
>Is he from Cal Arts?
Nah, he went to some junior college
Make it just about Rick and Morty going on adventures (Morty's home/schoollife is the worst part)
>You guys have seen Roiland's other work, right?
yeah I have, that's why I want Harmon to fuck off.
So you would recommend Trover Saves the Universe? I was thinking about that.
I don't know, I don't really play video games
lol what a looooooserr
Even if you don't I'm surprised you wouldn't play this one if you're a Roiland fan, it just straight up seems to be a movie.
Well I don't have any VR gear, so
Oh, you don't need it.
Nothing.
The creator is a pedo, so it's in good hands.
Is there something wrong with it?
I guess we could have less Jessica, she's not very interesting.
Oh, right. I'll have to check it out then.
oh man that episode suuuuuucked
>a concrete connection
>concrete
You speak spanish, don't you?
What's wrong with the use of concrete in that context, flyover boy?
Disney's family friendly brand means fucking nothing nowadays. They don't care if it's a Care Bears movie or a Deadpool movie, they'll go for it as long as it makes cash and doesn't make them look bad.
Is too much of a heavy and hard word to use in such a poorly constructed phrase.
do you have a smooth brain?
If you try to look at the stars right know now you will probably will see something flying over your head.
Fire all female writers, also more Tammy
>Yea Forums - reaction great.jpg
I'm worried about what this folder looks like.
The bean mouth have been there for decades, calarts style is not only bean mouth, but beanfaces.
>Bad writer
>Brought in writers for Community that wrote endless gimmick episodes and unironically stole ideas from reddit and ruined the show
>'diversified' the R&M writers room which wreaked pickle rick upon the world
>this one is like third hand, but supposedly psychicpebbles and emptyhero were both supposed to work on the show but Harmon saw they both had political opinions he didn't like and complained to turner execs which made room for his female writers, one of which hadn't had a writing job since 2010
Baring some mind blowing episode that somehow manages to make both the red-pillers and crazy leftist trannies go "Oh, shit" in regards to Rick, I dunno
People on all boards have had their fill of /pol/. You're not going to convince anyone with your inane ramblings.
I think your ex-wife is calling, Dan
Actually it's your mom, she wanted some of my ligma.
Unrestrained Roiland >>>>>>> Restrained Roiland
well well WELL look at us peers fighting amongst like crabs in a bucket. I wonder, while this side huffs and that side puffs, who laughs at us all while we aren’t focusing any of this justified anger at them. Maybe they’re right and we really are just a bunch of fucking pigs in the wallow. Maybe we won’t pull it together and sock him in the mouth.
My problem is that the show changed with how it presents itself/story.
My gripes are this:
1: Morty has changed too much in a bad way. He's become a pessimist and filled to the brim with anger/violence issues, hes basically rick 2.0.If this was the end of the show then i'd understand that moire, but they got 70 moire episodes left and thats the problem. When we are introduced to the character, despite the shit he puts up with rick he still has a heart of gold and doesn't fight unless hes pushed into a corner and has to save the day. He was always balancing out ricks BS and keeping it level headed, but with him now being rich 2.0 there just is no balance. It's full asshole.
2: violence. Sure there were gorey bits in s1/'s2, but there were plenty of episodes with just humor and no one dying. In s3 it changed to EVERY episdodes focus being a blood bath action filled event. It's everywhere with no exception, so the show goes from being based around comedy/situation to blood/action/mindlessness.
If the dog episode happened in s3, then instead of rick saying to hide in the sewers or coming up with a clever way to solve the issue, he instead go in guns blazing. Which leads into
3: Rick. He went from being drunk/aloof, to literally having an iron man suit built into his skeleton and a boring gary stu. Sure he was powerful before, but there were plenty of times where he ran/was not in control of the situation (and had to even go through inderdimensional customs/run from the bugs).
In s3, outside of the iron man suit in his skeleton, he just solves every situation with brute force. It's fun for a segment or two, but when its every situation its just boring,
His entire character was that he was on the run from the gov with his buddies who tried to take it on and lost, but in S3 he takes on the ENTIRE government by himself, and defeates it and citadel without breaking a sweat ggez he was 500 steps ahead of everyone all part of his plan. It just feels like a cop out.
4: Continuity. The whole divorce plot was always an annoying part of the show, and it was made even worse in s3 when it was made front and center... and resolved by.. not being resolved whatsoever. The writers at the end basically said "well this was a bad idea, lets pretend it didnt happen lol". Great, thanks. Why even bring it up to begin with then?
Due to this, every episode had to be watched one after the other cause story all of a sudden became prime and center.
The show worked far batter as self containted mini adventures that are fun twists on scifi tropes (and not DIRECT rip offs like the madmax episode and marvel, like thats not a twist but the exact setting).
Bassicly the writing room needs to go back to what it was like in s1 and use that style of wriitng/characters, instead of mortyrick 2.0 and continuity drama with ironman rick.
de-thumb the members of the fandom and the anti-fandom who think Rick is supposed to be a roll modal character rather than a self-destructive train wreak who lies to himself.
>roll modal
>train wreak
Kill off beth.
More space adventures instead of marriage drama.
Stop having every character use Jerry as a punching bag. It’s getting really old.
Make Rick be less of a Gary Stu.
Inter dimensional Cable 2 is the worst episode by a HUGE margin, it’s legitimately one of the worst episodes of television Ever aired
Kill jester.
It's nowhere NEAR the worst episode of television. It IS the worst episode of Rick and Morty though.
Give the show a direction, because right now it doesn't have one
That's, uh, because it ended.
uhhh errrr no user there's uh *scratches chin* season 4 coming out hmmm *nods*
Impressive, I read this in Jeff Goldblum's voice perfectly.
Give Rick and Morty an actual connection and not just Rick constantly shitting on Morty, make Rick an actual smart character that solves problems and doesn't just pull stuff out of his ass because "he's so smart", make jerry more of a character and not just a pathetic floor mat for easy yucks.
I would have it specifically reference Yea Forums as failing the firing test for human interaction and sign off on this website at the end of the episode by posting every other free to most no sign in image board on the internet.
Make Rick a thick black female
It’s basically beyond being an homage to Back to the Future at this point
Yea Forums is well known enough that mentioning it in TV shows doesn't really do anything to it anymore.
Have Rick fail and Morty bail him out a few times.
Make the dynamic more symbiotic in their adventures over the idea that Rick's genius can screw him over and Morty's idiocy is what spares them from a terrible fate and not emotionally. I mean Morty actually gets them out of bad situations
Feel like that's what the evil morty plotline is gonna end up being.
>>1090476699047813You summer fags need to fucking leave
Justin Roiland and Dan Harmon are both talentless hacks
What about calling it out as a verifiable fiction along side all the other fictional realities that Rick explores like Froopyland and The Citadel.
Theme of this post: youtube.com
Yea thats why they are millionaires with both highly rated shows.
Well it’s already too late for that pal.
You might as well post the full version user
Jesus Fucking Christ.
Is that you, Roiland? I know you use Yea Forums sometimes.
No, but I am. Any questions while I'm here?
based
Good riddance.
>he figures out the multiple virtual realities
That's nothing compared to what he does in later seasons. I think that episode was about the power level he needed, has access to a lot of cool tech but has to think on his feet instead of always being overprepared.
Make Rick Morty's grandma.
Not even close. It’s god damn Dans fault. He’s got a huge ego and whenever he gets his grubby little hands on something, he fucks it all up.
The divorce arc was all Dan. The dude got his ass dumped in real life and used R&M as an outlet for it; and who could tell him no? Jerry became his personal punching bag/self insert for Dan and there was nothing anyone could do about it. All of the shitty character growth this season, like at the end of Pickle Rick or Beth’s play world, that shit was ALLLLLL Dan. And this don’t to say that his ideas or wants are terrible.
The intergalactic marriage counseling episode was Dans idea, based off his divorce again, but other writers could play off of it. They were given creative control, and so the episode was funny and memorable. But when Dan barges in and steals creative control, you get season 3.
Now, why does everyone complain about the female writers? Because Dan put them in the firing line. He hired them because “MUH DIVERISTY” so people shot them down after the season was shit. The real reason they sucked is because they had all worked with Dans egomaniacal ass before so they bent to his will in the writers room more than anyone else’s. Is it there fault? Kind of. Is it Dans? One hundred and fifty percent.
He cocreated the show you fat sloth
You mean the episode that won an emmy? Once they got rid of the toxic male writers the ratings literally doubled for the show after 2 years of shitty male writers and stagnant numbers
They were first time writers too, they shouldn't have been writing leads but instead be assistant writers till they figured out how the show is made and then lead write.
>He hired them because “MUH DIVERISTY
They were hired because Mike Lazzo was a fucking idiot who said something along the lines of, "Women can't handle conflict, that's why they aren't that funny and we don't have many women writers at Adult Swim". He got severe backlash for that, causing Roiland to offhandedly mention how the reason R&M didn't have women writers was because they got no resume submissions from women, just men. Once people read that in the interview, women started sending in their resumes galore.
I'm sure Lazzo utilized this opportunity to fill up the staff with as many women as possible in order to highlight, "LOOK! ADULT SWIM LOVES WOMEN, WE HAVE THEM WORKING ON OUR MOST POPULAR SHOW". But their inexperience coupled with Dan's shitty direction because of his depression was just a perfect storm to turn one of the more unique shows [AS] has made into a completely forgettable and misguided trainwreck.
But the biggest problem is that season 3 was the most popular R&M has ever been. So none of these complaints or critiques even matter. The show will only decline more and more in quality.
The popularity only proves it'll get better and better. I think it's just a few seething incels upset they don't have their sekret cartoon club
I would improve the Rick & Morty show by halting it's production and bashing every physical season copy at retail with a hammer.
No Beth and Jerry subplots.
Summorty is canon
Fire DAN. Keep Justin, he's actually good.
Hire more Futurama, Disenchantment, original Simpsons writers. Pixar writers too.
Were the Futurama writers really the same people the whole way through? That show completely fell apart after it came back from cancelation.
Funfact: Seth Green is a pedophile.
In a way, it is.
End it after season 2.
Thing is, justin needs writers to kinda keep him focused. His truly OC stuff is just a bunch of poop jokes (literally).
huh?
Except for Jerry, Jerry is a 1920s swampdweller.
The one that needs to be fired is Justin Roiland. He hasn't been in the writers room since season 2 and it shows, either he needs to get back in there or get the fuck out of this show.
Get schwifty is still better than other shows overall quality, but get schwifty had issues.
Maybe push up the music element have morty get pissed off and leave way earlier and focus on a weird music journey while Rick learns that he does need morty. Cut down B plot line for time and have the family escape and try to survive instead of new religion.
If Dan was a millionaire he would have retired by now, he's been very open about that on his podcast.
Got a link in particular?
celebritynetworth.com
thats the point you fucktard
>WHY THEY DON'T FIRE MANE CHARATCOR?
Good idea, you should e-mail that to them.
I don't exactly have all of harmontown memorized, but he's mentioned how all he really wants to do is make enough so he can retire from show business several times in the last 10 episodes, when Schrab was on. Guess I must've just assumed getting to the millionaire level would be enough for him? Because damn, if you can't be content with millions, you can't be content period. Which does sound just like Dan...
He gets off the hook on the technicality he hasn't been through puberty yet himself.
That's a funny way to spell Look Who's Purging Now
Make it more like back to the future and not have morty’s family in it at all. The entire show is primarily about his parents relationship and everything else is just a side story to take up time.
Implying Beth shitting on Jerry isn't best thing in the series
It really isn’t. It’s like when family guy started using meg jokes and now she’s a punching bag for no reason. It was never funny to begin with and only gets more toxic over time. Also they had an entire episode proving that both of them were happier being together and that Jerry wasnt a complete loser but nope none of that matters because the writers can’t make a show that doesn’t revolve around them potentially breaking up.
The show should literally be called “Beth and Jerry”
>proved Jerry wasnt a complete loser
I'll take things that never happened for 1000, Alex.
The episode were Beth and Jerry see how their lives would be different if they never met.
Jerry becomes the biggest movie star of all time while Beth just sits at home with a house full of birds. Both are depressed because of the love they lost and end up finding each other.
Also to add onto it. In one episode Rick and morty abandon one universe because everyone turned into mutants but Jerry saved his family and they end up living on in that world.
I get that Jerry is supposed to be the punching bag like meg in family guy but they literally keep writing themselves into corners like this because once again they spend too much time writing about Mortys family and not about his wacky adventures with his grandpa. This show had really good potential of being the next futurama and that is what drew a lot of people in but they shit the bed
make sure to put that line into season 4
So? He's still a bad writer.
kill the cringy fans
>Be Dan Harmon
>Need a new show to pitch
>Ask old friend if he has any ideas
>Get shown an old Back to the Future parody
>You made this? Great, we made this!
Cocreated the show my ass, it's a Roiland creation that now suffers Harmon's writing. Why do you think Roiland never bothers entering the writing room anymore? Or didn't get Harmon on board for his more recent projects? Because he saw his fartbaby get hijacked by a sad mess of a man.
The problem with Get Shwifty was they based the whole episode around a song but the song sucked.
>get called out for being a retard
>sperg out
Truly an intelectual
Shut the fuck up dipshit
You wish you were half the writer he was.
Not everyone wants to be a writer, and some people shouldn't be writers. Harmon is the latter.
Harmon is writing for a show that just got guaranteed 100 episodes. You have nothing.
Nigga i'm not a writer, I don't give a fuck how I compare as a writer. Do you think only writers have a right to criticize other writers
>Morty's fucking head
Yes. Obviously. You don’t know shit about writing or the writing industry. Your opinion on the matter means basically less than shit.
Not the least of which because you haven’t seen a god damn thing beyond “i don’t like him as a writer”.
>Yes. Obviously. You don’t know shit about writing or the writing industry. Your opinion on the matter means basically less than shit.
And I can continue to express my opinion.
>Not the least of which because you haven’t seen a god damn thing beyond “i don’t like him as a writer”.
Most people here also think he is a terrible writer, it's just common knowledge.
Get outta here Butch Hartman. You don't have to be a chef to know when a meal is shit either.
>all these posts correctly pointing out how shitty Harmon is
I'm proud of you, Yea Forums.
Also is Harmontown worth listening to anymore? I haven't listened to an episode since they were playing Shadowrun.
They never play any tabletop games anymore, but Spencer and his wit are still there. If you enjoyed it back then it's safe to say you'll enjoy it now.
Make it comedy only and not drama mixed in with muh meaning, morales, muh existential dread and what not that makes the average cognitive functioning monkeys that watch this feel better as human beings, cause they are "smart and depressed". Don't make every character a twist on human psychology, just characters that are also funny , like in season 1.
The only thing they can leave in of that sort are the depressing episode endings, but don't make this stuff too tied to a plot or project it everywhere.
go back to abusing kids dan